Looking like they really want their war with Russia
Teresa May gets to play the role that our country usually plays when wars are being planned and she is thinking about which steps to take to push the world into another war.
UK to 'consider next steps' after Moscow announces expulsion of British diplomats - May
The UK will consider its next steps in response to Russia's expulsion of 23 diplomats, British Prime Minister Theresa May has announced. It comes amid London's allegations that Russia was behind the poisoning of Sergei Skripal.
"In light of their (Russia's) previous behaviour, we anticipated a response of this kind and we will consider our next steps in the coming days, alongside our allies and partners," May said while speaking at the Conservative Spring Forum in London on Saturday. "But Russia’s response doesn’t change the facts of the matter - the attempted assassination of two people on British soil, for which there is no alternative conclusion other than that the Russian State was culpable."
No alternative? Sure there is. Give a sample to Russia so they can look at it and then both countries can take their findings to the UN and let other countries decide what to do with their findings. No evidence has been given to Russia for them to evaluate what the poison that they are being accused of using is. This goes against international laws when one country has a problem with another one.
She went on to state that “it is Russia that is in flagrant breach of international law and the Chemical Weapons Convention." She also reiterated her desire to “dismantle ” the so-called Russian spy network operating out of the UK, and to suspend all planned contact between London and Moscow. "We will never tolerate a threat to the life of British citizens and others on British soil from the Russian Government,” she said.
Do we even know if Skripal and his daughter are even sick or if they are, alive? The drug that she is accusing Russia of using is supposedly the most powerful one known, yet the doctor who was first on the scene and tended to the daughter does not have any symptoms of being poisoned. And if it is that dangerous to be around without proper protective equipment, then why aren't these other men wearing it?
The whole world is experiencing a false flag event and being subjected to propaganda and because people abhor Trump so much, they are believing it.
Who's it bad for? Everyone else.
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I wonder why May is so intent on escalating the situation?
Here's the full Russian response to May's provocations. Normal response to the crap May originally served up.
The British Council is a UK government propaganda program. It is not a non-profit NGO. It sells it's services. Due to this, it ran afoul of Russian tax codes.
A distinct echo of US interference is here
Sounds to me like the DNC and the host of pseudo philanthropies operated by the Clinton War machine. DNC acts like an NGO, of course with now blatant cheating. DNC is partially funded by Democrats but also by the US government, funded by the Clinton mafia, along with probably both Soros and the CIA. The DNC of course started screaming about Russian hacking but never provided their servers for governmental or truly independent examination.
The failure of the Brits to provide samples of the poisoning agent is the same as the DNC failing to surrender its servers. Now Tories are as assuredly screaming Russia Russia Russia as the whole Dim party has been, without proof, for 18 months.
Same playbook. Our spooks are definitely educating Whitehall, as if MI-6 needed any.
Further to the British Council
Their website states they sell training and testing in English language proficiency.
But, it appears they may be just another NED type operation to be used as a front for spooks to operate from.
Why is the UK refusing to supply samples to OPCW?
Because they don't want facts to get in the way of their war
It seems to be boiling down to this, doesn't it? No evidence provided, so let's go to war. It's so unbelievable how people are falling for this again so soon after Libya and Iraq. But they are. Check out the insane asylum at ToP today.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
breaking news (of a sort):
‘Johnson says UK to hand Skripal evidence to OPCW as he points finger at Moscow’, march 18. RT now if you can parse this, i tip my hat to you:
“While Johnson said that London would allow the international OPCW experts in The Hague to review the British analysis of the sample, the UK refuses to enact the mechanism in the OPCW that calls for a thorough investigation, the Russian FM noted. He added that “if you appeal to this organization, you must comply with the provisions of the convention that stipulate filing a request to us, because we are suspected of being a country of origin and even the country which had used this poisoning agent, and, providing us with samples of this agent, so we, together with OPCW experts, can analyze it.”
there are several internal links to try to make sense of it...
more on May's part in it later.
Looks like the UK now wants to give evidence to the OPCW
in the Hague but at the same time prevent Russia from doing any independent investigation themselves. It's like a prosecutor having all the "evidence" but refusing to let the defendant have any access to it.
It's similar to the secret "investigation" of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17. Little evidence was released to Russia or the public allowing the "trial" to proceed by propaganda and manipulation in the media. We all know who controls the MSM in the west and how powerful and insidious they are.
From previous reports about CW's in Syria, it is apparent that OPCW reports can be politicized.
Whenever I see international agencies do their work in secrecy I question the results. The OPCW is supposed to be transparent and neutral. Also, why did the UK refuse to allow the OPCW to start an investigation immediately? Will the chain of custody for the evidence have been compromised as it was in Syria?
What if they declared
war and nobody showed up?
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
They'll show up.
Just need to stage another Pearl Harbor and the sheeple will be tripping over themselves trying to sign up and go out to "kick some ass". USA! USA! USA!
oh, I don't know...
Sure, some will show up.
But this bunch of soon-to-be 18s
is a pretty woke bunch, knows a
war with Russia is bull$h!t, and likely to protest like it's 1969! Only, instead of burning draft cards, since there aren't any, likely to Just Say No to the RW war machine.
Should be fun to watch. And participate!
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
I'm not impressed by the Millennials
They are probably the first generation that are born to readily propagandize. They will read the heading and form an opinion almost instantaneously. Their attention span is probably now 2-3 seconds. I see this when watching new nature documentaries. There are constantly changing video images lasting only seconds. One rarely gets to see the animal for long enough to study. Personally, I can no longer watch. I suppose this is a legacy from the newer music videos - all flash, wiz, bang, with no substance to speak of.
Then there are the other traits:
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIpREvWtl70]
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As8XkJNaHbs]
Interesting interview
But I wonder if the millennials he's speaking about fall into a particular socio economic group? I'm not sure that the kind of parenting and access to technology he discusses applied to the same group of millennials.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
America has been at war for most of the Millennial's
lives. American wars upon foreign nations do not seem to be high on their agendas. I've yet to see any large cohesive anti-war movements to date.
Here's one YouTube site that looks promising: The Millennial Revolt
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLi8o-PbVng&list=PLN6PbOgR7YVpiq6Osy3SDn...
Unfortunately the currently popular sites are self centered all-about-me mindless crap that will lower one's IQ substantially if watched excessively.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYwwoooqQT8]
Eva Bartlett did some incredible work there
I saw her presentation to the UN about year ago. It was actually the beginning for me in which I questioned everything.
My comment about working class kids, their parents, and technology, however, is more about the assertions the video makes of how ALL millennials grew up. I'm saying I don't believe all millennials had parents who had the time or money to give them what middle class and upper middle class millennials had. I think the video was talking more about kids who could afford to go to college and who were working in white collar jobs.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
despite the self-help hucksterish
character of the presentation -- i mean, it's an infomercial -- that second video was startling to me because so much of what he's got to say is what i've been saying to my kids for almost 20 years, since the oldest was in primary school.
it did no good -- as i now understand quite clearly, the only real solution is to take the electronics away from them, which creates its own problems of social isolation. even today, in their early 20s, the older ones react with considerable hostility and defensiveness when i make fairly straightforward assertions about the negative psychological outcomes that their technology fetishes must inevitably bring them. one of them blew up at me when i told a younger sibling to stop playing solitaire on the phone, put it down, pick up the pack of cards sitting on the coffee table 2 feet away, and play solitaire with real cards.
like most addicts, they don't like to be told that they have a problem, nor that their very favoritist thing in the world is more negative than positive.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
@Wink
The problem is that they don't actually declare war, they just jump in and start bombing other people in their own countries, where they were minding their own freaking business - rather than sacrificing themselves and their resources to suit American business interests.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
War propaganda posters back in style.
Comment from the article
US training Syria militants for false flag chemical attack as basis for airstrikes
It's so predictable anymore, isn't it? RT also has this op-ed where the author states that the US and its allies are responsible for 400,000 Syrian deaths. This is reprehensible for any country to willingly kill that many people for no reason except greed! Wars for profits is abhorrent and they are war crimes.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
I think these provocations are in preparation
for US and UK missile attacks on Syria in the coming weeks. Russia has been VERY successful in decreasing hostilities there. The US backed terrorist groups are now on the verge of being completely wiped out.
The US, UK, France and GCC countries have spent hundreds of billions in their failed attempt to destroy Syria. Putin outsmarted them and they're pissed. There are reports that US forces are now directly involved in the fighting.
Any bets I am correct? This is the only scenario that makes sense of the escalation of provocations. Get the public primed and ready for retribution.
Remember how it was done in the run-up to the Iraq war? Same old, same old.
Could be.
They just jump from one thing to another, stirring up shit while they take their actions.
I think you are right. Assad the first target, but others also
It is also an attempt to totally isolate Russia from the EU ecconmically. The big prize is stopping Nord Stream 2, which will stop Russian gas coming into the EU and will give American companies basically monoploy control of EU's energy needs.
And at least for May a way to prop up her falling poll numbers in the UK. She is doing what Bush did. Use war to win an election,.
And wars make history as well.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
Check out this article on Porten Down
This should get people to stop and think about what they are hearing from May and question why she is pushing this so hard with no proof given. She isn't saying that the lab has studied the sample and the markers show where it was made, she's just saying "Russia did it." (Although the article is saying different.)
Dark secrets of Porton Down: Inside controversial defence lab which developed VX nerve agent and used human 'guinea pigs'
Sure. We'll just take your word for it. It seems mighty convenient that this laboratory is just down the road from the town that Skripal was poisoned in. Horses and Zebras again.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
Oh look. Iran made novichoks in 2016
First Recorded Successful Novichok Synthesis was in 2016 – By Iran, in Cooperation with the OPCW 136
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
Obligatory punk tune:
“Those who make Bernie Sanders impossible will make Luigi Mangione inevitable." - Dan Berger
US going to fund and arm 60,000 man force in Syria 2018
The US will not allow the people of Syria respite from war until they dismember the country. Just like they did in Afghanistan, they will turn this into a forever war.
As long as Americans are not coming home in body bags, 80% of Americans could give a fuck about the destroyed lives of tens of millions of innocent men, women and children in foreign countries. America continues to be the greatest force for evil, by far, in the world. They are the REAL terrorists.
... Do we even know if
Can you make out any White Helmets under the black hats on the guys wearing the space-leisure-suits?
Guess this is from Fri... they were then said to be still in critical but stable condition, although you'd expect more and recent updates on their condition, if human life was of any concern here.
http://www.newsweek.com/alexander-shulgin-sergei-skripal-novichok-poison...
Speaking of Porton Down:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/inside-porton-down-britains-contro...
Seem to have had some mysterious deaths among their biochemical warfare staff - not a healthy place at all...
https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-192-requiem-for-the-suicided-dr-da...
From comments:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2133201/Dr-Richard-Holmes-Suicid...
Why it would take weeks to discover the cause of death was not explained although you'd think that deaths among those in a group working on Top Secret biochemical warfare would be thoroughly investigated and ASAP - unless the cause was known and the concern had been with stopping potential leaks after a recent police investigation had been halted and charges not after all pressed against scientists at the facility.
And just as with his friend, searchers seemingly were told not to approach him if found - the assumption apparently being, in both cases, that they'd be dead - not injured and needing help - despite neither having been suicidal and both merely having gone for a typical walk, a habitual, regularly taken one in the case of Dr. Kelly.
Just as with his friend, the death was said to be suicide - despite neither having been obviously suicidal and Dr. Kelly having plans to go places and do thing, including write an expose;
Just as with his friend, it was said that there no evidence of specifically 3rd-party involvement, in both cases, apparently implying-by-Freudian slip that there was 2nd-party involvement.
It would have been difficult for those involved to have behaved in a manner more likely to look suspicious in both cases.
This site lays out details nicely:
https://redice.tv/news/weapons-expert-working-with-david-kelly-suicided-...
http://truthfall.com/suicide-another-porton-down-scientist-found-dead/
So of course Porton Down were hired to blame the RUSSIANS!!! for the poisoning of a wrung-dry Russian spy no longer useful to British Intelligence, his info on the defunct Soviet Union being decades out of date and a couple of regime changes behind. And they got rather a lot of special funding right after doing so.
Have to join to access this, but this is what shows on the search page:
Porton Down stinks, always has, always will. What they used to term 'pure poison'. Quite literally.
Edit: took me all day to get this posted; glad to see I was so thoroughly ninja'd! I love this site!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Good work. Worth the effort.
Speaking of scientists, Ellen
Guess who was on MH-17 that was blown up over Ukraine? The world's leading AIDS experts who were on their way to an AIDS meeting.
Good job on those articles pulling in even more sh*t this bright sunny day. The whole world is on one huge propaganda campaign just so they can kill more people, take money from some more and make f*cking profits for the defense and banking industries as well as the others that profit from war regardless of the cost of human lives.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
MUST VIEW - John Pilger:
“We don’t even know if a Novichok program existed!”
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=dxRiG8vRRBk]
Dangerous, indeed
and once again the American sheeple jump off the war cliff and give their permission and blessing for it.
I don't understand why Russia hasn't spoken out against the NATO buildup? Putin had to know what was happening.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
Putin has been doing just that for 1 1/2 decades now
I guess you haven't been following his many speeches over the years.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlY5aZfOgPA]
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=932K6tZ5Ea4]
I believe Putin knew there was animus against him and Russia being built up within the Atlantist countries in the last 6 months or so. That is why he talked about Russia's defenses in his annual address to the Federal Assembly several weeks ago. Putin has his finger on the pulse of the world. He never acts rashly. But when he does act, it is deliberate and forceful. He is reactionary. He will never instigate conflict but he will never shy away if the security of Russia is at stake.
Did you watch his last address to the state? He first talks about his country. Then he shows the world that if they dare step on Russia, the response will be quick and decisive.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDGvrdqQZVY]
D'oh
you're right, I haven't heard about his speeches mainly because I haven't gone to the sites that cover him. In the second vid he says that he did try reaching out to our government, but they don't want partners, only vassals.
If the war does start, I wonder which of his allies would come to his aid? I'm pretty sure that Iran and China would, but which others was he talking about when he said that they had plenty of allies?
He doesn't take the threat against him personally, he says that it is directed at Russia for them to get out of the way of our hegemony. Brilliant. His concern is for his country and people, not him personally. This is how I have seen him act in the videos of him that I have seen.
BooYah! His dig at McCain was great. "I'm sure that his hand are elbow deep in blood of civilians." Hell yeah they are. "is that what you call democracy?" speaking about Gaddaffi's murder.
Thank you for posting them. I have seen the last one before. Which sites do you follow for Russian news beside RT?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
Stephen Cohen seems knowledgeable to me....
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=851&...
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
He is one of the very best. Very balanced and honest.
Here's a small list
https://theduran.com/ (this site is exceptional for being right on top of the latest issues)
https://thesaker.is/
http://www.unz.com/
http://www.moonofalabama.org/
http://www.tomdispatch.com/ (current: America’s Phony War Blitzkrieg Overseas, Sitzkrieg in the Homeland)
http://21stcenturywire.com/
http://www.brandonturbeville.com/
https://sputniknews.com/
https://www.fort-russ.com/
https://russia-insider.com/en
https://consortiumnews.com/
https://www.counterpunch.org/
Thanks
I hit most of them a few times a week and MoA daily. Haven't heard of a few of the others. It's simply amazing how the whole world is in on this propaganda campaign. Our government, U.K., France and the others that have sanctioned Russia for the poisoning know damn well that they didn't do it.
Lemmings!
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
Excellent list.
I agree with earthling1’s suggestion of strategic-culture.org —
Perhaps this one too:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/
You'd know more about this excuse for terrorism than I.
NATO appears to have been, most unfortunately, used as a tool in the long-running incremental corporate/military global takeover.
And here we are, back full-circle to 'Communists' - regarding a no longer remotely Communist country that they themselves warped into crony-capitalism via their routine electoral interference of which they then accuse their previous victim, as an excuse for attacking them - because Putin's been making Russia independent, cleaning out the corruption which the US PTB installed, and providing basic social benefits such as pensions and health care to his people out of their own resources rather than allowing his people and country to be polluted and sucked dry in order to provide maximized profits to The Right People/Corporations.
Meanwhile, The Psychopaths That Be blatantly work with terrorists they've created themselves, one way or another, terming them 'moderate rebels', to disrupt, dispossess and kill civilians. When not starving them with 'official sanctions' also depriving them of medical care. The powerless citizens seem always to be the target, which would be why they seem to always suffer the most.
I have never been able to see any sense in claims of civilian groups harming/killing innocent and powerless citizens as a protest - purportedly directed against those actually having power, doing the damage and clearly uncaring of all resultant suffering and loss of life - thus also triggering public detestation of the group and damaging their own cause. And that's because there wasn't any sense in it and it appears that these maimings and killings of innocent civilians are typically committed around the world because globally interlocked TPTB and their various secret projects wish to control and strip rights from a population, believe that carefully manipulated fear will make a people turn neocon and beg for fascism to be imposed upon themselves, (which unfortunately does work on a number of people, if not nearly as well as the Clinton CorpoDems believe) are manufacturing an excuse to attack/invade a country or apparently to discredit certain groups and their aims - if involving any degree of public good or hope for a better - or any - future for the general public.
We mustnever swallow the propaganda that the pathology instilled in various societies has anything to do with 'human nature'; humans naturally tend toward forming a social contract in one form or another, the possession of and respect for the essential human qualities of ethics and empathy being a basic requirement for species survival.
Psychopaths are parasitic and destructively predate upon others due to mental deficiencies limiting their capacities and perceptions; just because a society can survive for some time with a certain level of these within their midst does not make it acceptable or sustainable to allow the very ruthlessness of their limited and self-interested world-view to gain power over anyone.
TPTB 'hate us for our freedoms' and detest democracy enforcing equal rights for all, the 'social contract', what I term an ideal socialism, where the fulfillment of human needs, including equal rights and protection from predation for all, forms the first priority of (the delegates of) the overall social unit having public ownership and control over all human essentials and natural resources, because the general concept of equality and lack of deprivation for 'lesser beings' underlying these denies TPTB their imposition of their own 'personal exceptionalism', they seeing themselves as being the only Ones Who Matter. The rest of us are either useful or disposable. And in that sense, they are, indeed 'Lizard people'.
Back to:
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio
And people were surprised that Bernie didn't spit defiance at the root of this and make it all go away and seems to be using (actual) Resistance strategy instead.
Can't say that I see how creating secret groups of fascist civilian-attacking terrorists around the world to operate outside of democratic controls and erode the checks and balances enabling democracy's function, purportedly just in case of Communist invasion, apparently until the (fast-approaching, at current rates) end of planetary life, protects democracy.
This current insanity only 'makes sense' if we go back to the US industrialists who sponsored Hitler, introduced fascism as the psychopathic viewpoint of a 'political system', and, when Russian tenacity, defensive ferocity and winter weather defeated their Nazi-proxy's attempt at a first fascist global take-over, collected a core of their pet Nazis well away from the threat of trial for their war-crimes and started over again for a 2nd try, incrementally, using America as their drainable base this time, the Bush family and others among them entering politics and recycling the same - and identifiably familiar - propaganda, terroristic strategy, and False Flags, using their own created (whether controllable or not) terrorists as the excuse to attack/invade - first - the most vulnerable of their targeted resource-rich countries in order to steal their stuff and set up more military bases for the next targets in each step of their dream of Total Global Domination.
That, together with such as Operation Gladio and various secretive anti-democratic groups such as the Trilateral Commission, explains just about everything wrong with the world today, doesn't it? Just put the Russian hatred and paranoia together with those US industrialists pouring money into Hitler's Nazis and, when the perpetual Russian scapegoat defeated the Nazi invasion of their country at great cost and thereby weakened them too much for their armies to enable the planned fascist global take-over, the US industrialists cutting their losses and bringing back that core group of Nazis to start over again - not only to and in America, either. But always with that sick, seething hatred of those pesky Russians having had and still having the nerve to successfully defend themselves and feeling a sadistic need to slander and crush them forever...
And for that they need ever more and bigger nukes and are willing to destroy the world even faster than is their wholesale industrial and military pollution and devastation already destroying it. Anything that they can't hope to own, micromanage and utterly control has to go, even if their own health and survival depends upon it in a reality they believe that they can simply refuse to accept as real.
A relatively small group of psychopaths, their pathologized enablers and order-followers have warped the natural history of the world to produce so incredibly much of the misery in which the world now lives and dies with in the present, in order to take away all potential and future from planetary life, for their exerted control over any remains.
Are we going to just let them finish us off? Kinda looks like it, doesn't it?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Just nothing but thanks and admiration, EN
I wouldn't be at all surprised
if they simply made up a Russian-sounding name to go with their cover story for any even implausibly lunatic excuse for mob-attacking yet another still-free (or perhaps re-freed might be more accurate) country on their lengthy list. Would you?
That cover story has an awful lot of holes being filled in with denial, but to the various Psychopaths that Be, it doesn't matter if much of the population doesn't believe them, since the stonewalling of official denial in the face of the evidence has allowed them to get away with so very many murders so very many times.
This needs to stop...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Add to your great list
Http://www.strategic-culture.org.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Thanks Snoopy and Ellen
for sharing this info. Bookmarked
question everything