@Pricknick And here we are facing the consequences of their bullshit with no recourse. No alternative. And you wanna whine about generational blame? All right, the boomers weren't the only generation of sociopaths. Not all boomers behave this way. I get it. But those assholes who do are the ones with the loudest megaphone.

The Silents had quite a few of their own and like their boomer offspring, they'll still hold power even after they're dead. And some millennials and post-millennials would rather bitch about how everything is being 'ruined' by 'feminists' and 'sjws' while the rest are too busy worrying where the next gig is going to come from to give a shit what they think.

I myself gave up on the gig economy because there's nothing out there if you don't have a drivers' license, a car and so-called good credit on top of having disabilities that make physical labor too difficult for any piece of shit manager to tolerate.

@#1
Generational blame.

@Pricknick Here's the thing. In my experience, Gen X was the first to be targeted for blame by Boomers and Silents who didn't want to face up to the awful crash and burn of their dreams when those dreams came into high-velocity contact with the brick wall that was the earlier rendition of the American police state. Rather than admitting to themselves that they had been defeated by a truly horrendous power structure, many of them buried themselves in Reaganism and consumerism, while projecting the qualities of apathy and materialistic selfishness onto my generation. This was a veritable media project that began when I was an adolescent and most of my generation were still kids. And it was pushed in the media. That's how we became known as Gen X. The media branded us as that. The idea was that we had no real beliefs or unifying concern, so we were a mystery. At the same time, they pushed the idea that we were selfish, uncaring, materialistic little bastards. While, in many cases, our Boomer and Silent Gen parents voted for Reagan.

I've been living with this all my life. That's why I'm surprised when I come on a Gen-Xer who does that same thing to the millenials. That happens about half the time. The other half of the time, the Gen-Xer in question remembers what happened to us and feels solidarity with the millenials who are getting the same shit--just with a slightly different twist--from the media.

What it comes down to is that somebody needs to be blamed because the large left-wing movements and the joyous creative expression of the 60s and early 70s died and left us with--mostly--a pile of junk. And we can't blame the people who are actually responsible, because they have power. We need sin eaters. My generation has filled that role since I was twelve.

To the millenials, all I can say is, welcome aboard the shit train.

To the Boomers and Silents of good conscience I say, please recognize what's going on and withdraw your support for these memes.

@#1
Generational blame.

@pindar's revenge And you're right that they've got the divide and conquer strategy down pat. It worked quite well in 2016 and it's only gotten worse since. We have no way of pushing back against this kind of crap because those who plug it have more money and resouces than we ever will.

#1
You might as well be blaming our troubles on immigrants or blacks as blaming a generation, that's just what the power wants. This generational warfare serves only the interests of power.

I'm a boomer. We inherited the Cold War, DDT, fossil fuel, imperialism, and nuclear nightmares. Every single day we expected to die in a nuclear holocaust; we practiced for it in school. I practiced hiding behind the washing machine in the basement. We turned out in the MILLIONS to fight against war, defend the environment, oppose capitalism, fight for civil rights… the list goes on. Look up Mayday, Amchitka, Kent State. We were positioned by timing and circumstances to rise up: we had the numbers, there was liberation in the air, a lot of factors combined synergistically. There was nothing special about us, we just happened to be there. Power learned a LOT in those times about how to manipulate, control and co-opt, and eventually power won. We suffer today from those lessons that power learned. And one of the biggest lessons that power learned was divide and conquer.

@pindar's revenge

Cheers loudly - solidarity wins!

#1
You might as well be blaming our troubles on immigrants or blacks as blaming a generation, that's just what the power wants. This generational warfare serves only the interests of power.

I'm a boomer. We inherited the Cold War, DDT, fossil fuel, imperialism, and nuclear nightmares. Every single day we expected to die in a nuclear holocaust; we practiced for it in school. I practiced hiding behind the washing machine in the basement. We turned out in the MILLIONS to fight against war, defend the environment, oppose capitalism, fight for civil rights… the list goes on. Look up Mayday, Amchitka, Kent State. We were positioned by timing and circumstances to rise up: we had the numbers, there was liberation in the air, a lot of factors combined synergistically. There was nothing special about us, we just happened to be there. Power learned a LOT in those times about how to manipulate, control and co-opt, and eventually power won. We suffer today from those lessons that power learned. And one of the biggest lessons that power learned was divide and conquer.

@Strife Delivery

But I guess I need to take responsibility for that, right?

But to generalize a situation that is also performed by all is wrong.
I dislike Zuckerberg for the way he manipulates all generations for personal gain. Yet I don't blame millennials of which he belongs to.
All I was trying to say is that you can paint a broad stroke in blaming others when only a fine line actually is true.

#2

I quit blaming my elders when I realized that I had to take responsibility for myself first.

A nice statement to deflect from the sheer destruction that the Boomer generation inflicted upon the planet. Blaming your elders? For what? Boomers had things granted to them on a giant silver platter. More of a meaningless pull-yourself-up-by-the-bootstraps garbage that Boomers like to believe they had to do but in reality never had to do.

Might as well tell the children in Iraq who had their houses bombed that they need to take responsibility for themselves and not blame older generations.

Boomers will never take responsibility for the death and destruction they rained down upon the future generations. Opportunities, wages, costs of living across the board, environmental stability, and on and on were literally handed to the Boomers. And what did Boomers do for the future generations? Gutted everything and hoarded. Now, the planet is very close to an utter environmental meltdown across the board from decades upon decades of destruction, but somehow we should absolve the previous generations of what they did? The thing is, from just normal lifespans, the Boomers won't be around to truly see the damage they have inflicted on the planet. And it will be far too late. Millennials and Gen Z will face the full brunt of that.

Take responsibility? Scientists are already worrying that it is too late to stop the changes. We needed to do these things decades ago, before guess what, Millennials were even born. So tell me: How were Millennials and Gen Z supposed to take responsibility and fix these problems that not only took decades to create but also already are too late to fix?

Boomers have been dictating our government policy for decades. Even 2016, Trump and Clinton were overwhelmingly favored by Boomers. Millennials showed their preference, upon which I have disagreements with the man, but their preference was Sanders. But instead of Boomers listening about the roar from the Millennials, they scoffed and told them "No".

What you do individually is you. But in history we look at the average of a society, or in particular, a generation spanning a certain period of time.

Were there people in the 1870's who viewed AA's as actual human beings? Yeah, but the average in society didn't really follow that belief. So we don't mention every instance of every outlier of every individual.

In the end, there is a reason that Boomers are called the "Me Generation". Everything they did was for them and it didn't matter if it damned future generations so long as it benefited them. Through all their party-hard, me-me-me philosophy, only now is the damage taking effect and will only truly come to fruition when the Boomers are gone.

Millennials like myself are expected to have shortened lifespans because of the damage inflicted by previous generations. But I guess I need to take responsibility for that, right?

@Strife Delivery
immediately followed the boomers. It was a symptom of the reaction against the social involvement of the boomers. One of Power's triumphs.

#2

I quit blaming my elders when I realized that I had to take responsibility for myself first.

A nice statement to deflect from the sheer destruction that the Boomer generation inflicted upon the planet. Blaming your elders? For what? Boomers had things granted to them on a giant silver platter. More of a meaningless pull-yourself-up-by-the-bootstraps garbage that Boomers like to believe they had to do but in reality never had to do.

Might as well tell the children in Iraq who had their houses bombed that they need to take responsibility for themselves and not blame older generations.

Boomers will never take responsibility for the death and destruction they rained down upon the future generations. Opportunities, wages, costs of living across the board, environmental stability, and on and on were literally handed to the Boomers. And what did Boomers do for the future generations? Gutted everything and hoarded. Now, the planet is very close to an utter environmental meltdown across the board from decades upon decades of destruction, but somehow we should absolve the previous generations of what they did? The thing is, from just normal lifespans, the Boomers won't be around to truly see the damage they have inflicted on the planet. And it will be far too late. Millennials and Gen Z will face the full brunt of that.

Take responsibility? Scientists are already worrying that it is too late to stop the changes. We needed to do these things decades ago, before guess what, Millennials were even born. So tell me: How were Millennials and Gen Z supposed to take responsibility and fix these problems that not only took decades to create but also already are too late to fix?

Boomers have been dictating our government policy for decades. Even 2016, Trump and Clinton were overwhelmingly favored by Boomers. Millennials showed their preference, upon which I have disagreements with the man, but their preference was Sanders. But instead of Boomers listening about the roar from the Millennials, they scoffed and told them "No".

What you do individually is you. But in history we look at the average of a society, or in particular, a generation spanning a certain period of time.

Were there people in the 1870's who viewed AA's as actual human beings? Yeah, but the average in society didn't really follow that belief. So we don't mention every instance of every outlier of every individual.

In the end, there is a reason that Boomers are called the "Me Generation". Everything they did was for them and it didn't matter if it damned future generations so long as it benefited them. Through all their party-hard, me-me-me philosophy, only now is the damage taking effect and will only truly come to fruition when the Boomers are gone.

Millennials like myself are expected to have shortened lifespans because of the damage inflicted by previous generations. But I guess I need to take responsibility for that, right?

@Strife Delivery

Once again, this will undoubtedly end up on a dead thread, lol. Oh, well...

This following illustrates what was and is running American policy, not the citizens the government was to be of, by and for, or the ideal of democracy with equal rights, treatment and opportunity for all, or any care for the public good. The psychopathic US industrialists who funded and supported Hitler as a proxy for their previous attempt at a corporate/military global take-over.

When psychopaths arrive in an essentially lawless or isolated area, as within a new frontier, their very ruthlessness often enables them to take over from the beginning and to pathologize that society by imposing their inhuman world-view.

Where psychopathy is not yet understood and restrained from taking power over others on order to predate upon them, this will happen. Due to the brain deficiency of the born psychopath, they regard other life as alien-to-them machinery either useful or disposable and humans as weak tools to manipulate or do with as they will; basic human survival capacities such as ethics and empathy are past their comprehension and perceived by them as weaknesses to be manipulated and used against humans and are presented as such by them in 'social engineering', and so they shape, as far as they can, any society over which they gain control into a destructive and ultimately unsustainable personal resource enacting their wills.

This, following, is a demonstration of what happened where psychopaths ruthlessly gaining great wealth, typically at the too-often extreme expense of others, translated into political power in one country, supported psychopaths within another country, in order to use these and the people and resources of that country for their own purposes, (possibly in the end figuring out that the fascists they'd fostered in order to control the world on their behalf would be no longer controllable by them in any end stage,) providing not only funding, etc., but their manipulative skills in the form of propaganda which also worked upon another population, with a great number of these simply in denial, as 'this can't happen within our democracy, therefore it must not be happening', exactly as occurs within America, with a nurtured collection of psychopaths in now-obvious control and the gloves coming off to show the hand of the monster beneath.

We need to understand what we're dealing with in order to do so, while withstanding their manipulations; clever psychopaths have fooled experts, at least over the short-term, and can coldly manipulate even these, without them realizing until, perhaps, much later. Lying doesn't bother them, you see, and they can do so easily, even passing lie detector tests without a falter or a sign - without conscience. And they'd much rather that we blame their other victims...

http://www.publicbooks.org/what-the-nazis-learned-from-america/

What the Nazis Learned from America
7.6.2017

... Many observers have condemned the term “alt-right” as obfuscation—an attempt by standard-issue right-wing hate groups to rebrand themselves as something respectable-sounding. For example, in a New York Times opinion piece published shortly after the election, historian Kelly J. Baker correctly pointed out that the alt-right is an extension of earlier white-supremacist movements and shares much with the scientific racists and white-supremacist propagandists of the early 20th century—people like the millionaire philanthropist and eugenics advocate Madison Grant, whose books Hitler admired. For Baker, Grant and others also prefigure the alt-right’s attempts to dress up or hide white-supremacist ideas in terms that might gain broader acceptance in respectable circles. The KKK, but in suits. ...

...In his new book, Hitler’s American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law, legal scholar James Q. Whitman shows that America’s regime of legal discrimination drew the admiration of the most notorious “race realists” of the 20th century, the Nazi regime. The mutual regard of Nazi and US eugenicists is well known to historians of scientific racism. (Edwin Black’s 2003 War Against the Weak brings together many threads of this story.) We know, for instance, that Hitler wrote a fan letter to Grant, and that his writings and speeches exhibited an approving awareness of US compulsory sterilization laws, racial restrictions on immigration, and—especially—exterminatory policies toward Native Americans.

... On the US side, the eugenicist Harry Laughlin published a translation of the 1933 German Law for the Prevention of Defective Progeny in his Eugenical News. He noted proudly that the Nazi law, like several similar American state laws, was patterned on a model that he drafted. As late as 1940, the American writer Lothrop Stoddard published a book subtitled “A Sympathetic Report from Hitler’s Wartime Reich.” By then, admiration for Germany was unfashionable, but for most of his career Stoddard had been a respected expert on international relations whose work, alongside Grant’s, brought the idea of “race suicide” into the scientific mainstream.

Whitman brings legal theory into this story, showing that the jurists charged with working out the early phases of the Nazi legal regime showed intense interest in American racial jurisprudence. Nazi thinkers examined legal practices in other settler colonial states as well (and while Whitman only mentions it in passing, German scientists and administrators had already used German-controlled South West Africa—now Namibia—as a laboratory and testing ground for techniques of racial degradation and extermination). Nonetheless, the Nazi lawyers Whitman discusses saw the United States as “the leading racist jurisdiction”—the prototype of a legal regime addressing how a Nordic Volk could deal with foreign races living in their midst. As a result, they went on study trips to the US; published articles, books, and bureaucratic reports on American legal practices; and met with American legal experts.

Drawing on meeting transcripts, memos, and published work, Whitman argues that US models inspired the lawyers working to craft the Nuremburg laws that stripped Jews of citizenship, barred mixed marriages, and prohibited what the Americans called “miscegenation.” Dismayingly, the US example appealed primarily to the most extreme Nazi thinkers. ...

...For the (ultimately triumphant) extremists, on the other hand, this incoherence was the American legal regime’s greatest virtue. “Technical doctrinal concerns” such as precise definitions and consistent application did not bog down the Americans. The (particularly murderous) Nazi judge Roland Freisler approvingly observed that American law exhibited a “primitive,” “political” spirit. Another proponent of radical measures, Hans Kier, wrote in 1934 that “the variegated abundance of statutory racial regulation in the States of the Union demonstrates that the elemental force of the necessity of segregating humans according to their racial descent makes itself felt even when a political ideology”—egalitarianism, enshrined in the 14th Amendment—“stands in the way.” US jurisprudence, that is, exhibited a bracing “realism”: when legal doctrine met racial “reality,” the former gave way. ...

... It is not surprising, then, that Nazi thinkers found in the American example a rationale for casting off any constraints that German legal tradition might have placed on their persecution of the Jews. Still, this is a disturbing story, and one that casts a harsh light on conventional accounts of American history. Such accounts look back at interwar America and see a flawed but fundamentally liberal society. Nazis looked at early 20th-century America and saw themselves. ...

Psychopaths in their little nest-eggs all agree... and they will unite, as they did, to 'justify' and promote as 'scientific' or 'acceptable' psychopathic viewpoints and actions as a 'norm' to be imposed... fascism enacts psychopathic thinking, this, not surprisingly, making it popular with with psychopaths and the most heavily pathologized.

And a number of these Nazi's were, as has long been known, rescued from justice following WW2 and brought to America (and elsewhere) by powerful US industrial psychopaths, including, of course, the Bush line, to work within industry and politics, polluting the culture further, in order to help work toward a more carefully planned 2nd attempt at a fascist global take-over, using American resources and (where achievable, via regime change, assassination, military coups, invasion, electoral 'help', propaganda, Astroturf protest/revolution, threats, bribery, enforced famine and deprivation of medical aid to civilian populations, and the like,) 'adjusting' the political structures of other people's countries around the world to suit themselves in working toward this aim. They've seemingly never missed a trick, a war-crime or any other crime.

I suspect that they felt that their own country, where they already held, and now hold even greater, control, is a better place from which to maintain that control on a global basis, than a foreign one which had already been proven by the Russians to be insufficient to take on the world. (That, I expect, being, at least in part, why Russia forms such an apparently attractive scapegoat and target for The Powers That Be, having beaten their proxies the last time, if at great cost, and being ready to defend themselves again against attack.) In this last stage, as we see, everything goes into the US military/Intelligence for their long-planned Final Solution military/corporate global domination, spying on all people all of the time in all countries, setting up strategic staging areas in other people's countries all over the world so as to be able to attack every country from anywhere, right under everyone's noses and on the excuse of 'fighting terrorists' which we continually discover to have been created/trained/armed/funded/shifted around by themselves or their partners in other governments, further growing that already insanely bloated US military scattered strategically all over the world in readiness - why, if not to be certain that it can invade/destroy every country on earth at once, if required for conquest?

And what will doubtless work out to multiple trillions of America's public money for even more nukes with which to threaten/destroy countries/global life when they've already enough to destroy life on the planet however many times over, this to be drained out of the already-drained American public and the remaining shreds of any social programs. But, logically, the greater the population die-off at home and abroad, the fewer they'd have to fight, exterminate or exert micro-managed control over later.

I really can't see any other way, in view of their documented history, demonstrated tendencies and ongoing actions, to interpret all this.

Meanwhile, much of the rest of the world (finally realizing, I'd like to believe, the nature and extent of the peril,) begins to draw back from/mass against them.

In the meantime, those making a killing off the killing industriously drain, pollute and maim the world they'll evidently destroy in the taking, one way or another. This is still the looting phase, even if the loot of the most vulnerable is running dry at this point, soon forcing a turn on each other in order to continue accumulating soon-to-be-useless wealth.

And this needs to be read at full at source, but there's a few indications below of some bits of various important points covered. This makes it evident that nothing involves the planning, consent or fault of the propagandized, drained and used American citizens of any generation or at any stage, any more that was the informed consent of the previous propagandized, drained and used German citizens required when members of this conspiracy sponsored Hitler and the Nazis. Propaganda's used because it works upon those carefully kept ignorant, disinformed and unaware of what they're dealing with.

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=14307

US: Lockheed Stock and Two Smoking Barrels

by Richard Cummings, Playboy.com
January 16th, 2007

In November of 2002, Stephen J. Hadley, deputy national security advisor, asked Bruce Jackson to meet with him in the White House. They met in Hadley's office on the ground floor of the West Wing, not far from the offices of Vice President Dick Cheney and then-National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice. Hadley had an exterior office with windows, an overt indicator of his importance within the West Wing hierarchy.

This was months before Secretary of State Colin Powell would go to the United Nations to make the administration's case for the invasion of Iraq, touting the subsequently discredited evidence of weapons of mass destruction. But according to Jackson, Hadley told him that "they were going to war and were struggling with a rationale" to justify it. Jackson, recalling the meeting, reports that Hadley said they were "still working out" a cause, too, but asked that he, Jackson, "set up something like the Committee on NATO" to come up with a rationale.

Jackson had launched the U.S. Committee on NATO, a nongovernmental pressure group, in 1996 with Hadley on board. The objective of the committee, originally called the U.S. Committee to Expand NATO, was to push for membership in the NATO military alliance for former Soviet bloc countries including Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic.

What Bruce Jackson came up with for Hadley this time, in 2002, was the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq. The mission statement of the committee says it was "formed to promote regional peace, political freedom and international security by replacing the Saddam Hussein regime with a democratic government that respects the rights of the Iraqi people and ceases to threaten the community of nations." The pressure group began pushing for regime change -- that is, military action to remove Hussein -- in the usual Washington ways, lobbying members of congress, working the media and throwing money around. The committee's pitch, or rationale as Hadley would call it, was that Saddam was a monster -- routinely violating human rights -- and a general menace in the Middle East. ...

... As The New York Times put it in a 1997 article, "at night Bruce Jackson is president of the U.S. Committee to Expand NATO, giving intimate dinners for senators and foreign officials. By day, he is director of strategic planning for Lockheed Martin Corporation, the world's biggest weapons maker."

That's how D.C. works. Many of the people making decisions have been in and out of the same set of revolving doors connecting government, conservative think tanks, lobbying firms, law firms and the defense industry. So strong is the bond between lobbyists, defense contractors and the Pentagon that it is known in Washington as "the iron triangle." And this triangle inevitably gets what it wants. Why? Because in the revolving door system, a defense contractor executive can surface as an official in the Department of Defense, from which position he can give lucrative contracts to his former employer, and his prospects for an even better paying job in the private sector brighten. Former aides to members of congress become handsomely paid lobbyists for the companies they were able to help in their position on Capitol Hill. Such lobbyists can spread their corporate-funded largesse to the friendliest members and their aides on the Hill. And so on.

These "blow-dried Republican lobbyists," as one Washington district court judge calls them, wield far more power than most of the elected officials in town. Forget dime-a-dozen congressmen. ...

... Bruce Jackson is a perfect example of this. While vice president for strategy and planning for Lockheed from 1999 to 2002, Jackson, by his own account, was also "responsible for the foreign policy platform at the 2000 Republican National Convention," to which he was a delegate. (The platform involved a dramatic increase in defense spending.) His title at the convention was chair of the platform subcommittee on foreign policy. He also served as co-chairman of the finance commission of Bob Dole's 1996 campaign. Prior to joining Lockheed, Jackson had served as executive director of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), the think tank whose principles included Dick Cheney. PNAC served as the Bush administration's blueprint for preemptive war and authored a 1998 open letter to President Bill Clinton calling for military force to oust Saddam Hussein.

But forget Jackson. In 2002, he was on the outside. Stephen Hadley, looking out of the windows from his West Wing office, was on the inside. Sure, Hadley had the requisite government experience for a deputy national security advisor. He had been an assistant secretary of defense under Bush's dad. But he had been through the revolving door, too: Stephen Hadley, the point man for justifying the invasion of Iraq, had also lawyered at Shea & Gardner, whose clients included Lockheed. ...

... It's actually much more sinister than that, allowing the interests of America to be subverted by the interests of corporate America. As you'll see here, your elected officials did not deliberate on how best to protect their constituents, decide bombing Iraq was the best way and then order some provisions and weapons. On the contrary, this is the story of how Lockheed's interests, as opposed to those of the American citizenry, set the course of U.S. policy after 9/11. ...

Profiting by the growth of the military toward the War On The World to enforce the 2nd attempt at Total Dominance global fascist hegemony not of 'the US' but of the psychopaths who've stolen control over governance from the American people to whom it belongs.

How much 'destabilizing' terrorism and war has not been due to TPTB setting up for this? Virtually everything seems to trace back to them, one way or another... no wonder censorship and McCarthyism are being so frantically imposed.

But now it seems evident (to me, at any rate) that all this ever-more-obvious corruption and warmongering appears to be actually just a continuation of the progress of those US industrialist's initially Nazi-attempted global agenda, becoming more contemptuously blatant as they near their goal - and things once again begin to go sour for them at the last moment. In the meantime, there are floods of pumped-out and increasingly desperate propaganda produced by experts, growing more and more insane, with the apparent objective of having Americans believing nothing that is true, only what they are told by The Right People.

We must not fall prey to the disinformation, the seemingly endless and increasing variety offered vulnerable victims among ourselves offered as misleading objects of arrack precisely to forestall our solidarity forming and our identification and removal of the relative few with stolen control over the warped system of government and all mechanisms of checks and balances. They still fear The People united, they fear the Progs, they still fear Bernie, even now - and what they fear gives us hope.

Their end game involves game over for planetary life, whether the Psychopaths That Be, incapable of seeing beyond their own desires, realize it or not. Will we end in the futile squabbles and victim-blaming they lead us into, or will we, at the least, go down swinging in the right direction in the effort to bring democracy to America, as promised by her most enlightened Founders and enshrined in the Bill of Rights they fought so hard to have included?

Since this was written for Bush and a favourite of mine which is appropriately playing right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgEBojCBOd0&list=RDcgEBojCBOd0#t=56

Beth Hart:-'Sick'

#2

I quit blaming my elders when I realized that I had to take responsibility for myself first.

A nice statement to deflect from the sheer destruction that the Boomer generation inflicted upon the planet. Blaming your elders? For what? Boomers had things granted to them on a giant silver platter. More of a meaningless pull-yourself-up-by-the-bootstraps garbage that Boomers like to believe they had to do but in reality never had to do.

Might as well tell the children in Iraq who had their houses bombed that they need to take responsibility for themselves and not blame older generations.

Boomers will never take responsibility for the death and destruction they rained down upon the future generations. Opportunities, wages, costs of living across the board, environmental stability, and on and on were literally handed to the Boomers. And what did Boomers do for the future generations? Gutted everything and hoarded. Now, the planet is very close to an utter environmental meltdown across the board from decades upon decades of destruction, but somehow we should absolve the previous generations of what they did? The thing is, from just normal lifespans, the Boomers won't be around to truly see the damage they have inflicted on the planet. And it will be far too late. Millennials and Gen Z will face the full brunt of that.

Take responsibility? Scientists are already worrying that it is too late to stop the changes. We needed to do these things decades ago, before guess what, Millennials were even born. So tell me: How were Millennials and Gen Z supposed to take responsibility and fix these problems that not only took decades to create but also already are too late to fix?

Boomers have been dictating our government policy for decades. Even 2016, Trump and Clinton were overwhelmingly favored by Boomers. Millennials showed their preference, upon which I have disagreements with the man, but their preference was Sanders. But instead of Boomers listening about the roar from the Millennials, they scoffed and told them "No".

What you do individually is you. But in history we look at the average of a society, or in particular, a generation spanning a certain period of time.

Were there people in the 1870's who viewed AA's as actual human beings? Yeah, but the average in society didn't really follow that belief. So we don't mention every instance of every outlier of every individual.

In the end, there is a reason that Boomers are called the "Me Generation". Everything they did was for them and it didn't matter if it damned future generations so long as it benefited them. Through all their party-hard, me-me-me philosophy, only now is the damage taking effect and will only truly come to fruition when the Boomers are gone.

Millennials like myself are expected to have shortened lifespans because of the damage inflicted by previous generations. But I guess I need to take responsibility for that, right?

@Pluto's Republic that's harsh, no pass. See what that grows into your future.

#2

Not by a long shot.

The story of this time is that calcified brains have destroyed the economic futures of the current new generation. But those enfeebled brains are just about dead, so it's not their problem. Bwa-hahaha! They got theirs. "Enjoy your lifetime enslavement to debt, suckers. I had to walk 20 miles to school in the snow, both ways!"

People over 55 really should abstain from voting. Voting age should begin at 14.

Age matters.

Did you know that making the age for gun possession 29 years old will drop the gun death rate by 75 percent in an armed society?

On the whole, age matters a lot.

@lizzyh7 That will never work. They've been trying that one since the early 90s.

What they don't get is that young people have mothers and fathers and grandmothers and grandfathers. For both selfish and altruistic reasons, they don't want their relatives screwed.

#7 #7 Blaming the Boomers is perfect for that. Why should Millienials, et al, pay into a system for a bunch of greedy fucking geezers, lets just end that altogether, nothing but a Ponzi scheme, nothing but a bunch of lazy takers who "had it all" and kept it all, why they're fucking you, why should YOU pay for their elder care? Fuck them, all their fault, end SS and Medicare now!

See how that works for them?

Edit to add: And when this happens, how are the people who voted their own shit away going to feel when Grandma is living on the street? She may be a Boomer after all, so maybe that's OK. She was a greedy bitch so fuck her.

@The Aspie Corner write off an entire generation of people? How do you think a 60 year old who's been laid off from his job and has NO prospects for another one would feel when you tell him to check his Boomer privilege, think that would go over so well? Think that gets him on our side of the fence? Think that wakes him up to see what an asshole dupe he too has been? As Snode said above, blame away then, but you'll never hurt our owners by doing that, they laugh all the way to the bank watching that shit as they have for generations.

#10 And some of those gray hairs just sat there and pointed fingers at us while the world burned. So what are we supposed to do?

We can't protest because the capitalists have co-option, appropriation, astro-turfing, incarceration, denigration via media outlets and assassination down pat. Social media is worthless because it's little more than trolls and genuinely stupid people who just don't give a shit. Town halls are nothing more than reactionary bullshit the politicians use to shit on their own constituents as they scream at each other. Voting and campaigning in capitalist-controlled elections is purely an empty gesture because they're already decided before a single ballot is even cast. Boycott is virtually impossible because you're buying from them even when you aren't.

So how are we supposed to respond? There is literally no recourse. Prove me wrong.

@The Aspie Corner I can't prove you wrong. What you say is true. Everything that happened we saw happen right before our eyes. I have a son, who went to college in a STEM field, we both went into debt to make this happen. I told him to work hard, this was worth it. It wasn't. Unless he wants to spend more time and money to get a Doctorate and a slim chance at a job as a glorified lab rat. He didn't even have any wild times. 70% of his class was mainland Chinese that didn't mix with other students. Now he works construction, no insurance, no benefits or workman's comp. I told him that he needed to vote, but why, there's nothing in it for him, neither r or d have anything for him. And all the advice I gave him was wrong. I hate I had nothing of value to guide him. We saw the internet go from a clear open stream to a capitalist open sewer. There's no living time, just one manufactured crisis after another to keep us off balance, take away another part of our lives, diminish us. How we got here is by thousands and thousands of small cuts, tiny cuts, by our leaders over decades. that betrayed us, bled us. Made possible by liars,traitors, hucksters and gullible fools like me. For all our counter culture swagger, in the end we pretty much did what we were told. You and my son know that doesn't work, and you're smarter for it. I don't believe this millennial slacker snowflake crap. I think, hope, you, this generation will find a way.

#10 And some of those gray hairs just sat there and pointed fingers at us while the world burned. So what are we supposed to do?

We can't protest because the capitalists have co-option, appropriation, astro-turfing, incarceration, denigration via media outlets and assassination down pat. Social media is worthless because it's little more than trolls and genuinely stupid people who just don't give a shit. Town halls are nothing more than reactionary bullshit the politicians use to shit on their own constituents as they scream at each other. Voting and campaigning in capitalist-controlled elections is purely an empty gesture because they're already decided before a single ballot is even cast. Boycott is virtually impossible because you're buying from them even when you aren't.

So how are we supposed to respond? There is literally no recourse. Prove me wrong.