I lost a lot of respect for Cenk Uygur because he believed all the Scary Russia bullsh*t.
That being said, he has credibility with mainstream Democrats.
So when he comes out against Scary Russia, it means that the witchhunt is approaching its end.
It's good to see that he's at least saying that the Stein investigation is crap, but he's still believing the rest of Russia-Gate.
Trump did not ask Russia to hack the DNC server, he said that if Russia had them to release them.
Look at how this article tries to say that Trump asked Russia to hack the DNC computers for Hillary's emails. The emails he was talking about were the ones that she deleted after she was told to turn them over during the Benghazi hearings.
DORAL, Fla. — Donald J. Trump said on Wednesday that he hoped Russian intelligence services had successfully hacked Hillary Clinton’s email, and encouraged them to publish whatever they may have stolen, essentially urging a foreign adversary to conduct cyberespionage against a former secretary of state.
What Trump actually said which they wrote in the very next paragraph:
“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said during a news conference here in an apparent reference to Mrs. Clinton’s deleted emails. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”
Wow! Talk about creating false information and deliberately lying about what was actually said. This has happened all through the RussiaRussiaRussia hysteria. People believe what they are told without looking to see if it's true or not.
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Gawd, it's no wonder that Americans are so stupid misinformed isn't it when the media can lie to us without any consequences.
It's good to see that he's at least saying that the Stein investigation is crap, but he's still believing the rest of Russia-Gate.
Trump did not ask Russia to hack the DNC server, he said that if Russia had them to release them.
Look at how this article tries to say that Trump asked Russia to hack the DNC computers for Hillary's emails. The emails he was talking about were the ones that she deleted after she was told to turn them over during the Benghazi hearings.
DORAL, Fla. — Donald J. Trump said on Wednesday that he hoped Russian intelligence services had successfully hacked Hillary Clinton’s email, and encouraged them to publish whatever they may have stolen, essentially urging a foreign adversary to conduct cyberespionage against a former secretary of state.
What Trump actually said which they wrote in the very next paragraph:
“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said during a news conference here in an apparent reference to Mrs. Clinton’s deleted emails. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”
Wow! Talk about creating false information and deliberately lying about what was actually said. This has happened all through the RussiaRussiaRussia hysteria. People believe what they are told without looking to see if it's true or not.
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with the 'Russia Ruse,' so to speak. Watch from a recent CNN Townhall,
[YouTube, Sanders: I agree with US intel on Russian hack]
This is of consequence, due to the many low information voters in the Dem Party Base--not to mention Independent voters--who are likely to buy this hook-line-and-sinker.
But, what do you do about it?
Mollie
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength, while loving someone deeply gives you courage."--Lao Tzu
…but that clip is from January 2017, just shortly after Brennan and Clapper foisted the Russia Hoax on the United States. Bernie was wet-eyed serious with their glorious authority. Surely he was continuing to reprogram himself as a Democratic Party-line loyalist. He is literally sitting inside the media bubble, agreeing with the narrative. He believed it for the sake of the Party, even as it further divided the nation.
By any measure, to disagree would have harmed his future. Even after everyone comes to their senses, and the legal and moral shame starts to settle, the American people will continue to believe in this dangerous hoax with all their hearts. Those who know better will never speak of it again. This is going to leave a mark on this culture's genome.
with the 'Russia Ruse,' so to speak. Watch from a recent CNN Townhall,
[YouTube, Sanders: I agree with US intel on Russian hack]
This is of consequence, due to the many low information voters in the Dem Party Base--not to mention Independent voters--who are likely to buy this hook-line-and-sinker.
But, what do you do about it?
Mollie
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength, while loving someone deeply gives you courage."--Lao Tzu
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your point, but I'm unable to reconcile that notion with the fact that Bernie has continued to repeat this meme on the Sunday political programs [throughout the year].
In fairness, that standard applies to any and all Democratic and Republican lawmakers--not just him. Of course, Bernie's the formal Dem Senate (outreach) point person, now, which I suppose is the reason that he's so often a guest on the Sunday programs.
BTW, after the holidays, I intend to start posting some of those transcripts, with a link to the original program website for context.
(I say that with a little qualification, since I've also volunteered to assist in a major fundraising endeavor for an animal shelter, and I'm not certain how many weeks/months it will run.)
Anyhoo, I'm considering including some kind of 'Disclaimer' at the top of blurb(s), so that folks can skip reading them, if they believe that the content could be upsetting to them. Since I value your judgment and opinion, Pluto, I'm wondering--do you think that this would be unnecessary, since the transcripts would speak for themselves? I'm not normally into 'overkill,' if you know what I mean!
Bottom line, with another election cycle coming up, I think it's absolutely critical that folks know the facts. And this will be one of the best ways that I know of to accomplish this.
…but that clip is from January 2017, just shortly after Brennan and Clapper foisted the Russia Hoax on the United States. Bernie was wet-eyed serious with their glorious authority. Surely he was continuing to reprogram himself as a Democratic Party-line loyalist. He is literally sitting inside the media bubble, agreeing with the narrative. He believed it for the sake of the Party, even as it further divided the nation.
By any measure, to disagree would have harmed his future. Even after everyone comes to their senses, and the legal and moral shame starts to settle, the American people will continue to believe in this dangerous hoax with all their hearts. Those who know better will never speak of it again. This is going to leave a mark on this culture's genome.
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BTW, after the holidays, I intend to start posting some of those transcripts, with a link to the original program website for context.
I spend a good deal of my online time digging for original "evidence," you might say. So, of course, I think it is healthy to arm others with information that strengthens their resolve.
Anyhoo, I'm considering including some kind of 'Disclaimer' at the top of blurb(s), so that folks can skip reading them, if they believe that the content could be upsetting to them.
I wish I were a better judge of the "harshness" of information. I've been told by folks that they do not want to live out their days mistrusting their government, etc. They ask that I spare them. And I do try to.
I think a preface is always in order. One like you propose will attract views, as well. A win-win.
As for Bernie, I don't maintain a steady opinion of him at that level, so I can be moved in any direction. I was not emotionally invested in him (or anyone that year) as a candidate. His historic role in 2016 was extraordinary, though. His presence triggered a growing awareness across the nation. He changed things permanently.
your point, but I'm unable to reconcile that notion with the fact that Bernie has continued to repeat this meme on the Sunday political programs [throughout the year].
In fairness, that standard applies to any and all Democratic and Republican lawmakers--not just him. Of course, Bernie's the formal Dem Senate (outreach) point person, now, which I suppose is the reason that he's so often a guest on the Sunday programs.
BTW, after the holidays, I intend to start posting some of those transcripts, with a link to the original program website for context.
(I say that with a little qualification, since I've also volunteered to assist in a major fundraising endeavor for an animal shelter, and I'm not certain how many weeks/months it will run.)
Anyhoo, I'm considering including some kind of 'Disclaimer' at the top of blurb(s), so that folks can skip reading them, if they believe that the content could be upsetting to them. Since I value your judgment and opinion, Pluto, I'm wondering--do you think that this would be unnecessary, since the transcripts would speak for themselves? I'm not normally into 'overkill,' if you know what I mean!
Bottom line, with another election cycle coming up, I think it's absolutely critical that folks know the facts. And this will be one of the best ways that I know of to accomplish this.
Hey, have a wonderful holiday weekend!
Mollie
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base of knowledge, it is always helpful to suss out your views.
And, please--if I do include a standard 'preface' with the transcripts--a word which I think is much more appropriate than 'disclaimer,' so, thank you--don't hesitate to critique the wording or the content, or, to offer suggestions. I assure you, any would be well-received!
BTW, after the holidays, I intend to start posting some of those transcripts, with a link to the original program website for context.
I spend a good deal of my online time digging for original "evidence," you might say. So, of course, I think it is healthy to arm others with information that strengthens their resolve.
Anyhoo, I'm considering including some kind of 'Disclaimer' at the top of blurb(s), so that folks can skip reading them, if they believe that the content could be upsetting to them.
I wish I were a better judge of the "harshness" of information. I've been told by folks that they do not want to live out their days mistrusting their government, etc. They ask that I spare them. And I do try to.
I think a preface is always in order. One like you propose will attract views, as well. A win-win.
As for Bernie, I don't maintain a steady opinion of him at that level, so I can be moved in any direction. I was not emotionally invested in him (or anyone that year) as a candidate. His historic role in 2016 was extraordinary, though. His presence triggered a growing awareness across the nation. He changed things permanently.
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when they grasped at straws with Jill Stein now as their big villain holding up Russiagate, that the potty's ovah (as they say in Boston). Or damn near over. Took Cenk long enough. All he had to do was watch Jimmy.
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Oh look at who else was photographed with Putin. The photo of her has been out there for two years, but suddenly it's a big deal for her to have gone to Russia for any reason? Pulease. This crap happened to Bernie during the primary too because he went to Russia for his honeymoon. Yep. This makes everyone else who did that a Putin puppet.
when they grasped at straws with Jill Stein now as their big villain holding up Russiagate, that the potty's ovah (as they say in Boston). Or damn near over. Took Cenk long enough. All he had to do was watch Jimmy.
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Our so called media (mouthpiece of the crooked rulers) deflect attention away from the truth behind the story. Uranium deals from the state dept. and the clinton foundation can't be allowed closer scrutiny. So we get this bs instead.
Oh look at who else was photographed with Putin. The photo of her has been out there for two years, but suddenly it's a big deal for her to have gone to Russia for any reason? Pulease. This crap happened to Bernie during the primary too because he went to Russia for his honeymoon. Yep. This makes everyone else who did that a Putin puppet.
Oh look at who else was photographed with Putin. The photo of her has been out there for two years, but suddenly it's a big deal for her to have gone to Russia for any reason? Pulease. This crap happened to Bernie during the primary too because he went to Russia for his honeymoon. Yep. This makes everyone else who did that a Putin puppet.
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she should have requested an opportunity to make a half million dollar speech sponsored by a Russian bank too
Lol, Jill wasn't 'competitive' enough to have the ability to - for a big personal pay-off - arrange the facilitation of the sale of American essential strategic resources to foreign interests when America already was listed as being short of uranium for domestic power plant (and the all-essential endless permanent toxic hazard both while operating and in radioactive disposal storage area leaks) supply.
Just shows you what Earth-movers-and-shakers the Mad Bomber/Fracking Queen and King are! And how lucrative privatization is for Those Who Trickle Down Upon Us All - The Job Creators!
Why Did God Allow Job to Suffer? To Prove a Point to Satan?
October 9, 2008 by Ben
Why did God allow Job to suffer? Why did God allow Satan to harm Job’s health and wealth? Was it all merely to prove a point?
The Book of Job is a very interesting book in the Bible. Job is described as an upright man who follows God’s commands and is “blameless” in God’s eyes. The word “blameless” doesn’t mean sinless, but rather, that he had a good standing in the eyes of God and was repentant. Another way of putting it is that Job walked with God.
The scriptures tell us Job was wealthy, happy, faithful to God, and had a great family. All was going well for Job–that is–until his life comes crashing down!
One day, Satan presents himself before God and has a conversation with Him concerning Job’s character. Satan, whom the Bible refers to as the “accuser,” tells God that Job is only faithful because God has prospered him and put up a “hedge” around him. Satan, the grand accuser, is doing what he does best: Accusing a righteous man. Satan says that if God will “touch” all that Job has, he will curse God to His face.
God allows Satan to test his faithful servant, and after two severe trials (losing all material possessions, family, and health), Job remains faithful. But this raises an interesting question: Why did God allow Satan to test such a seemingly righteous man? ...
...God probably didn’t care so much what Satan thought, but in His wisdom, God knew Job would remain faithful and that his story would inspire millions of faithful Christians to persevere in their trials throughout the ages. ...
Nowadays, of course, they call this sort of private agreement with devils 'trade deals' and 'corporate investor protection agreements/conditions'. And lucrative, protected Hedge Management/lobbyist, etc. careers offered The Right Politicians (after/between public servicing of The Right Needs), of course.
And that's why corrupt politicians like to risk playing god by creating Jobs of us all by making private agreements with devils they unleash upon the world with impunity, to destroy our health, wealth and families, without lifting a hand to stop them, as their public position demands, (since those hands get weighed down with heavy loads of pieces of silver every time they try to lift them, and it's just too hard to drop these to actually do their jobs) being certain that no matter what they do to voters, these will remain faithful though whatever time remains to them and continue to vote for whatever they are told is the 'lesser evil'.
Just as in the parable, only updated and now involving the rapidly approaching destruction of our natural life support system. Let the innocent suffer - The Job Creators have luxury bunkers for when hell is fully created of Earth by them, and 'what difference does it really make at this point anyway'?
I think we need a new 'religion', perhaps one consisting of a respect for inherent human rights, sustainability and life over disaster capitalism, rather than of blindly and mindlessly worshiping those facilitating and enacting evil because they create the gratuitous suffering of Jobs all over the planet they're destroying?
To the best of my knowledge, nobody elected any of these guys as self-proclaimed 'above the law' gods to public service positions intended to serve the public/country's good, to claim some self-mandated power to sell them out to the devil even for 30 trillion pieces of silver, because 'the devil made me do it'.
Flip Wilson on The Ed Sullivan Show
The Ed Sullivan Show
That being why the Dems always look forward, not behind to see the destructively abusive profiteering evil from which they potentially profit and build on in their wake! Doing that might stop destructively self-interested donors from being so generous to them in the future...
#2.1 she should have requested an opportunity to make a half million dollar speech sponsored by a Russian bank too.
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A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
@Ellen North
that continue to point out that the judeo/christian god is an immoral bastard who plays cosmic games with devils while not caring about the suffering it produces in real human lives.
she should have requested an opportunity to make a half million dollar speech sponsored by a Russian bank too
Lol, Jill wasn't 'competitive' enough to have the ability to - for a big personal pay-off - arrange the facilitation of the sale of American essential strategic resources to foreign interests when America already was listed as being short of uranium for domestic power plant (and the all-essential endless permanent toxic hazard both while operating and in radioactive disposal storage area leaks) supply.
Just shows you what Earth-movers-and-shakers the Mad Bomber/Fracking Queen and King are! And how lucrative privatization is for Those Who Trickle Down Upon Us All - The Job Creators!
Why Did God Allow Job to Suffer? To Prove a Point to Satan?
October 9, 2008 by Ben
Why did God allow Job to suffer? Why did God allow Satan to harm Job’s health and wealth? Was it all merely to prove a point?
The Book of Job is a very interesting book in the Bible. Job is described as an upright man who follows God’s commands and is “blameless” in God’s eyes. The word “blameless” doesn’t mean sinless, but rather, that he had a good standing in the eyes of God and was repentant. Another way of putting it is that Job walked with God.
The scriptures tell us Job was wealthy, happy, faithful to God, and had a great family. All was going well for Job–that is–until his life comes crashing down!
One day, Satan presents himself before God and has a conversation with Him concerning Job’s character. Satan, whom the Bible refers to as the “accuser,” tells God that Job is only faithful because God has prospered him and put up a “hedge” around him. Satan, the grand accuser, is doing what he does best: Accusing a righteous man. Satan says that if God will “touch” all that Job has, he will curse God to His face.
God allows Satan to test his faithful servant, and after two severe trials (losing all material possessions, family, and health), Job remains faithful. But this raises an interesting question: Why did God allow Satan to test such a seemingly righteous man? ...
...God probably didn’t care so much what Satan thought, but in His wisdom, God knew Job would remain faithful and that his story would inspire millions of faithful Christians to persevere in their trials throughout the ages. ...
Nowadays, of course, they call this sort of private agreement with devils 'trade deals' and 'corporate investor protection agreements/conditions'. And lucrative, protected Hedge Management/lobbyist, etc. careers offered The Right Politicians (after/between public servicing of The Right Needs), of course.
And that's why corrupt politicians like to risk playing god by creating Jobs of us all by making private agreements with devils they unleash upon the world with impunity, to destroy our health, wealth and families, without lifting a hand to stop them, as their public position demands, (since those hands get weighed down with heavy loads of pieces of silver every time they try to lift them, and it's just too hard to drop these to actually do their jobs) being certain that no matter what they do to voters, these will remain faithful though whatever time remains to them and continue to vote for whatever they are told is the 'lesser evil'.
Just as in the parable, only updated and now involving the rapidly approaching destruction of our natural life support system. Let the innocent suffer - The Job Creators have luxury bunkers for when hell is fully created of Earth by them, and 'what difference does it really make at this point anyway'?
I think we need a new 'religion', perhaps one consisting of a respect for inherent human rights, sustainability and life over disaster capitalism, rather than of blindly and mindlessly worshiping those facilitating and enacting evil because they create the gratuitous suffering of Jobs all over the planet they're destroying?
To the best of my knowledge, nobody elected any of these guys as self-proclaimed 'above the law' gods to public service positions intended to serve the public/country's good, to claim some self-mandated power to sell them out to the devil even for 30 trillion pieces of silver, because 'the devil made me do it'.
Flip Wilson on The Ed Sullivan Show
The Ed Sullivan Show
That being why the Dems always look forward, not behind to see the destructively abusive profiteering evil from which they potentially profit and build on in their wake! Doing that might stop destructively self-interested donors from being so generous to them in the future...
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Oh look at who else was photographed with Putin. The photo of her has been out there for two years, but suddenly it's a big deal for her to have gone to Russia for any reason? Pulease. This crap happened to Bernie during the primary too because he went to Russia for his honeymoon. Yep. This makes everyone else who did that a Putin puppet.
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Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
His full throated swing to Her after being one of Her biggest critics proved to me he’s just another ex-Republican opportunist blowhard whose interestests and intentions should never be confused for progressive. Glad he’s getting some sense about Stein, but I’ll never trust the guy and I will always take anything from his organization with a shaker of salt.
(Edit to add, I didn’t mean this to sound deragotory to people who have an honest change of heart politically. I have much respect for that. It’s just the people like Her who allegedly “saw the light” but really haven’t changed, but just saw an opening in the Democratic Party and took it.)
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His full throated swing to Her after being one of Her biggest critics proved to me he’s just another ex-Republican opportunist blowhard whose interestests and intentions should never be confused for progressive.
Considering the fact that the Republicans took over the Democratic party 40 years ago, it's gotten to the point where Dems are the people who elected Dubya twice.
His full throated swing to Her after being one of Her biggest critics proved to me he’s just another ex-Republican opportunist blowhard whose interestests and intentions should never be confused for progressive. Glad he’s getting some sense about Stein, but I’ll never trust the guy and I will always take anything from his organization with a shaker of salt.
(Edit to add, I didn’t mean this to sound deragotory to people who have an honest change of heart politically. I have much respect for that. It’s just the people like Her who allegedly “saw the light” but really haven’t changed, but just saw an opening in the Democratic Party and took it.)
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Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
They wave their Bibles at passersby, screaming their condemnations of homosexuals. They fall on their knees, worshipping at the base of granite monuments to the Ten Commandments while demanding prayer in school. They appeal to God to save America from their political opponents, mostly Democrats. They gather in football stadiums by the thousands to pray for the country’s salvation.
They are God’s frauds, cafeteria Christians who pick and choose which Bible verses they heed with less care than they exercise in selecting side orders for lunch. They are joined by religious rationalizers—fundamentalists who, unable to find Scripture supporting their biases and beliefs, twist phrases and modify translations to prove they are honoring the Bible’s words.
This is no longer a matter of personal or private faith. With politicians, social leaders and even some clergy invoking a book they seem to have never read and whose phrases they don’t understand, America is being besieged by Biblical illiteracy. Climate change is said to be impossible because of promises God made to Noah; Mosaic law from the Old Testament directs American government; creationism should be taught in schools; helping Syrians resist chemical weapons attacks is a sign of the end times—all of these arguments have been advanced by modern evangelical politicians and their brethren, yet none of them are supported in the Scriptures as they were originally written.
But when the #Drumpf pied piper came piping via Podesta and the rest of the Clinton Cabal, he couldn't get in a tizzy fast enough with the rest of the collective, fear-drenched meltdown of Russia Red Herring Mania. He's now an embarrassing full-throated $hills defender.
Alas, according to this he was a bit conservative, shall we say, from the start:
His full throated swing to Her after being one of Her biggest critics proved to me he’s just another ex-Republican opportunist blowhard whose interestests and intentions should never be confused for progressive.
Considering the fact that the Republicans took over the Democratic party 40 years ago, it's gotten to the point where Dems are the people who elected Dubya twice.
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The number of people who have fallen on to this Russian propaganda is simply amazing. People who used to question everything that the CIA, FBI and other intelligence agencies have now believed everything that they say, especially Brennan and Clapper both who lied to congress.
They are God’s frauds, cafeteria Christians who pick and choose which Bible verses they heed with less care than they exercise in selecting side orders for lunch.
How many chapters are in Leviticus anyway? Hundreds? Thousands? But the only one that they reference is the one about tah gays. I haven't read about kids being killed because they disrespected their parents. Men being killed because they committed adultery, ate shellfish, wore polyester clothing or any of the other ridiculous things he wrote. This is called hypocrisy in my book.
They wave their Bibles at passersby, screaming their condemnations of homosexuals. They fall on their knees, worshipping at the base of granite monuments to the Ten Commandments while demanding prayer in school. They appeal to God to save America from their political opponents, mostly Democrats. They gather in football stadiums by the thousands to pray for the country’s salvation.
They are God’s frauds, cafeteria Christians who pick and choose which Bible verses they heed with less care than they exercise in selecting side orders for lunch. They are joined by religious rationalizers—fundamentalists who, unable to find Scripture supporting their biases and beliefs, twist phrases and modify translations to prove they are honoring the Bible’s words.
This is no longer a matter of personal or private faith. With politicians, social leaders and even some clergy invoking a book they seem to have never read and whose phrases they don’t understand, America is being besieged by Biblical illiteracy. Climate change is said to be impossible because of promises God made to Noah; Mosaic law from the Old Testament directs American government; creationism should be taught in schools; helping Syrians resist chemical weapons attacks is a sign of the end times—all of these arguments have been advanced by modern evangelical politicians and their brethren, yet none of them are supported in the Scriptures as they were originally written.
But when the #Drumpf pied piper came piping via Podesta and the rest of the Clinton Cabal, he couldn't get in a tizzy fast enough with the rest of the collective, fear-drenched meltdown of Russia Red Herring Mania. He's now an embarrassing full-throated $hills defender.
Alas, according to this he was a bit conservative, shall we say, from the start:
They wave their Bibles at passersby, screaming their condemnations of homosexuals. They fall on their knees, worshipping at the base of granite monuments to the Ten Commandments while demanding prayer in school. They appeal to God to save America from their political opponents, mostly Democrats. They gather in football stadiums by the thousands to pray for the country’s salvation.
They are God’s frauds, cafeteria Christians who pick and choose which Bible verses they heed with less care than they exercise in selecting side orders for lunch. They are joined by religious rationalizers—fundamentalists who, unable to find Scripture supporting their biases and beliefs, twist phrases and modify translations to prove they are honoring the Bible’s words.
This is no longer a matter of personal or private faith. With politicians, social leaders and even some clergy invoking a book they seem to have never read and whose phrases they don’t understand, America is being besieged by Biblical illiteracy. Climate change is said to be impossible because of promises God made to Noah; Mosaic law from the Old Testament directs American government; creationism should be taught in schools; helping Syrians resist chemical weapons attacks is a sign of the end times—all of these arguments have been advanced by modern evangelical politicians and their brethren, yet none of them are supported in the Scriptures as they were originally written.
But when the #Drumpf pied piper came piping via Podesta and the rest of the Clinton Cabal, he couldn't get in a tizzy fast enough with the rest of the collective, fear-drenched meltdown of Russia Red Herring Mania. He's now an embarrassing full-throated $hills defender.
Alas, according to this he was a bit conservative, shall we say, from the start:
Cenk Uygur until seeing this posting by gjohnsit today, which says something about the different media we all watch and listen to. But without any background with him, I find this video to be very insightful. He says a lot about the flimsy hollowness of the so-called experts and think tanks, the pathetic self-absorbtion of the political establishment, and he makes a lot of powerful points about the stupidity of the Russiagate process. I think he's on his way to noticing how stupid the whole thing is. Thank you, gjohnsit, again, for posting it.
@Linda Wood
Better than mainstream Dems, but still married to the system.
Cenk Uygur until seeing this posting by gjohnsit today, which says something about the different media we all watch and listen to. But without any background with him, I find this video to be very insightful. He says a lot about the flimsy hollowness of the so-called experts and think tanks, the pathetic self-absorbtion of the political establishment, and he makes a lot of powerful points about the stupidity of the Russiagate process. I think he's on his way to noticing how stupid the whole thing is. Thank you, gjohnsit, again, for posting it.
That was before I quit reading there on a daily basis. Don't know if he was forgiven when he backed Clinton after Sanders dropped out.
edit: correct frigging auto-correct
Cenk Uygur until seeing this posting by gjohnsit today, which says something about the different media we all watch and listen to. But without any background with him, I find this video to be very insightful. He says a lot about the flimsy hollowness of the so-called experts and think tanks, the pathetic self-absorbtion of the political establishment, and he makes a lot of powerful points about the stupidity of the Russiagate process. I think he's on his way to noticing how stupid the whole thing is. Thank you, gjohnsit, again, for posting it.
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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
are too far left. The site is proudly saying that they are centrists. I saw one long time member calling people out on why the democrats keep losing elections and boy did he get Dawg piled on. He held his ground through. I think I'll send him an invite...
are too far left. The site is proudly saying that they are centrists. I saw one long time member calling people out on why the democrats keep losing elections and boy did he get Dawg piled on. He held his ground through. I think I'll send him an invite...
the important issues that they used to cover slide off the wreck list quickly. That's if anyone writes them at all. The website should change its name to Daily Russia - Mueller - Putin instead. Anyone who calls this out there are attacked for it. This reminds me of when during the primary the front page was all about a republican and never about important issues.
How many people do you even recognize there? Heh, the fun thing to watch is when a newer member goes after someone who has been there since the early 2000's after the site was created.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
…interpretations of political reality did not smell that bullshit coming — or at least within the first week or two — they should pack it up and leave. I am weary of people who leave the American people dumber than they were six minutes ago.
Of course he is walking Russiagate back. It is in a shambles around the Democrat's ankles. Duh.
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Sounds to me as though Cenk's presenting a 'more credible' view of the "RUSSIA!" narrative by ditching some of the most appallingly stupid claims, burnishing Prog creds by defending Dr. Jill Stein (who I strongly suspect to have received more votes than were officially counted/announced,) while doubling down on the main theme of of "RUSSIAN!!! ELECTION INTERFERENCE!!!" and carefully protecting himself (not surprisingly, under the McCarthyist conditions, against being hauled off for inquisition/fired) against any charge of being sensible and factual regarding Russiagate. Part of the current propaganda attempt at 'appealing to Progs for the optics with 'a better, more convincing message' that we've been noting?
Personally, I haven't trusted him since after the final decisive primary cheat when an influx of money coincided with his ardent Clinton support, and that sudden apparent turn toward Progs following the general kinda raised my eyebrows more than my spirits...
Lol, getting all of the options above the comment appearing as typed out. Probably my computer, I suppose? I see a lot of such weirdness appearing in the pages here...
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A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
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He seems to still believe a lot of Russia-Gate
It's good to see that he's at least saying that the Stein investigation is crap, but he's still believing the rest of Russia-Gate.
Trump did not ask Russia to hack the DNC server, he said that if Russia had them to release them.
Look at how this article tries to say that Trump asked Russia to hack the DNC computers for Hillary's emails. The emails he was talking about were the ones that she deleted after she was told to turn them over during the Benghazi hearings.
Donald Trump Calls on Russia to Find Hillary Clinton’s Missing Emails
What Trump actually said which they wrote in the very next paragraph:
“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said during a news conference here in an apparent reference to Mrs. Clinton’s deleted emails. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”
Wow! Talk about creating false information and deliberately lying about what was actually said. This has happened all through the RussiaRussiaRussia hysteria. People believe what they are told without looking to see if it's true or not.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
The rest of the article is full of crap too
Gawd, it's no wonder that Americans are so
stupidmisinformed isn't it when the media can lie to us without any consequences.Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
SD, Bernie is totally on board
with the 'Russia Ruse,' so to speak. Watch from a recent CNN Townhall,
[YouTube, Sanders: I agree with US intel on Russian hack]
This is of consequence, due to the many low information voters in the Dem Party Base--not to mention Independent voters--who are likely to buy this hook-line-and-sinker.
But, what do you do about it?
Mollie
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength, while loving someone deeply gives you courage."--Lao Tzu
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
I don't want to defend his naiveté
…but that clip is from January 2017, just shortly after Brennan and Clapper foisted the Russia Hoax on the United States. Bernie was wet-eyed serious with their glorious authority. Surely he was continuing to reprogram himself as a Democratic Party-line loyalist. He is literally sitting inside the media bubble, agreeing with the narrative. He believed it for the sake of the Party, even as it further divided the nation.
By any measure, to disagree would have harmed his future. Even after everyone comes to their senses, and the legal and moral shame starts to settle, the American people will continue to believe in this dangerous hoax with all their hearts. Those who know better will never speak of it again. This is going to leave a mark on this culture's genome.
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Hi, Pluto--good to see you. I understand
your point, but I'm unable to reconcile that notion with the fact that Bernie has continued to repeat this meme on the Sunday political programs [throughout the year].
In fairness, that standard applies to any and all Democratic and Republican lawmakers--not just him. Of course, Bernie's the formal Dem Senate (outreach) point person, now, which I suppose is the reason that he's so often a guest on the Sunday programs.
BTW, after the holidays, I intend to start posting some of those transcripts, with a link to the original program website for context.
(I say that with a little qualification, since I've also volunteered to assist in a major fundraising endeavor for an animal shelter, and I'm not certain how many weeks/months it will run.)
Anyhoo, I'm considering including some kind of 'Disclaimer' at the top of blurb(s), so that folks can skip reading them, if they believe that the content could be upsetting to them. Since I value your judgment and opinion, Pluto, I'm wondering--do you think that this would be unnecessary, since the transcripts would speak for themselves? I'm not normally into 'overkill,' if you know what I mean!
Bottom line, with another election cycle coming up, I think it's absolutely critical that folks know the facts. And this will be one of the best ways that I know of to accomplish this.
Hey, have a wonderful holiday weekend!
Mollie
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
My first thought on reading this was: "Yay!"
I spend a good deal of my online time digging for original "evidence," you might say. So, of course, I think it is healthy to arm others with information that strengthens their resolve.
I wish I were a better judge of the "harshness" of information. I've been told by folks that they do not want to live out their days mistrusting their government, etc. They ask that I spare them. And I do try to.
I think a preface is always in order. One like you propose will attract views, as well. A win-win.
As for Bernie, I don't maintain a steady opinion of him at that level, so I can be moved in any direction. I was not emotionally invested in him (or anyone that year) as a candidate. His historic role in 2016 was extraordinary, though. His presence triggered a growing awareness across the nation. He changed things permanently.
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Thanks for the input, Pluto. With your broad
base of knowledge, it is always helpful to suss out your views.
And, please--if I do include a standard 'preface' with the transcripts--a word which I think is much more appropriate than 'disclaimer,' so, thank you--don't hesitate to critique the wording or the content, or, to offer suggestions. I assure you, any would be well-received!
Mollie
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Yeah, you just knew
when they grasped at straws with Jill Stein now as their big villain holding up Russiagate, that the potty's ovah (as they say in Boston). Or damn near over. Took Cenk long enough. All he had to do was watch Jimmy.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
Jill is being hounded because of the photo of her with Putin
Oh look at who else was photographed with Putin. The photo of her has been out there for two years, but suddenly it's a big deal for her to have gone to Russia for any reason? Pulease. This crap happened to Bernie during the primary too because he went to Russia for his honeymoon. Yep. This makes everyone else who did that a Putin puppet.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
obfuscate the issues
Our so called media (mouthpiece of the crooked rulers) deflect attention away from the truth behind the story. Uranium deals from the state dept. and the clinton foundation can't be allowed closer scrutiny. So we get this bs instead.
Well, if Jill had been thinking....
she should have requested an opportunity to make a half million dollar speech sponsored by a Russian bank too.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
@Fishtroller 02
Lol, Jill wasn't 'competitive' enough to have the ability to - for a big personal pay-off - arrange the facilitation of the sale of American essential strategic resources to foreign interests when America already was listed as being short of uranium for domestic power plant (and the all-essential endless permanent toxic hazard both while operating and in radioactive disposal storage area leaks) supply.
Just shows you what Earth-movers-and-shakers the Mad Bomber/Fracking Queen and King are! And how lucrative privatization is for Those Who Trickle Down Upon Us All - The Job Creators!
Job creators in this sense, of course:
http://www.revelation.co/2008/10/09/why-did-god-allow-job-to-suffer-to-p...
Nowadays, of course, they call this sort of private agreement with devils 'trade deals' and 'corporate investor protection agreements/conditions'. And lucrative, protected Hedge Management/lobbyist, etc. careers offered The Right Politicians (after/between public servicing of The Right Needs), of course.
And that's why corrupt politicians like to risk playing god by creating Jobs of us all by making private agreements with devils they unleash upon the world with impunity, to destroy our health, wealth and families, without lifting a hand to stop them, as their public position demands, (since those hands get weighed down with heavy loads of pieces of silver every time they try to lift them, and it's just too hard to drop these to actually do their jobs) being certain that no matter what they do to voters, these will remain faithful though whatever time remains to them and continue to vote for whatever they are told is the 'lesser evil'.
Just as in the parable, only updated and now involving the rapidly approaching destruction of our natural life support system. Let the innocent suffer - The Job Creators have luxury bunkers for when hell is fully created of Earth by them, and 'what difference does it really make at this point anyway'?
I think we need a new 'religion', perhaps one consisting of a respect for inherent human rights, sustainability and life over disaster capitalism, rather than of blindly and mindlessly worshiping those facilitating and enacting evil because they create the gratuitous suffering of Jobs all over the planet they're destroying?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09HV_X1qYNQ
To the best of my knowledge, nobody elected any of these guys as self-proclaimed 'above the law' gods to public service positions intended to serve the public/country's good, to claim some self-mandated power to sell them out to the devil even for 30 trillion pieces of silver, because 'the devil made me do it'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SLifea3NHQ
That being why the Dems always look forward, not behind to see the
destructively abusive profiteeringevilfrom which they potentially profit and build onin their wake! Doing that might stop destructively self-interested donors from being so generous to them in the future...Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Yeah... I just love those bible stories
that continue to point out that the judeo/christian god is an immoral bastard who plays cosmic games with devils while not caring about the suffering it produces in real human lives.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
Bernie went to Russia
primarily on a "Sister City" outreach visit. It was also a honeymoon vacation.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Yep. And that was decades ago, but they hung him for it
I put the wrong picture in my other comment. This is supposed to have been the second one.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Please please please gimme the link to that image! :)
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
He lost me before then
His full throated swing to Her after being one of Her biggest critics proved to me he’s just another ex-Republican opportunist blowhard whose interestests and intentions should never be confused for progressive. Glad he’s getting some sense about Stein, but I’ll never trust the guy and I will always take anything from his organization with a shaker of salt.
(Edit to add, I didn’t mean this to sound deragotory to people who have an honest change of heart politically. I have much respect for that. It’s just the people like Her who allegedly “saw the light” but really haven’t changed, but just saw an opening in the Democratic Party and took it.)
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
That goes for every modern Democrat.
Considering the fact that the Republicans took over the Democratic party 40 years ago, it's gotten to the point where Dems are the people who elected Dubya twice.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
Here's an example.
As far as I remember this guy wrote great books on Bush admin and Enron corruption and a great piece on the Bible for Newsweek.
Here's the intro:
But when the #Drumpf pied piper came piping via Podesta and the rest of the Clinton Cabal, he couldn't get in a tizzy fast enough with the rest of the collective, fear-drenched meltdown of Russia Red Herring Mania. He's now an embarrassing full-throated $hills defender.
Alas, according to this he was a bit conservative, shall we say, from the start:
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
Brilliant comment
The number of people who have fallen on to this Russian propaganda is simply amazing. People who used to question everything that the CIA, FBI and other intelligence agencies have now believed everything that they say, especially Brennan and Clapper both who lied to congress.
How many chapters are in Leviticus anyway? Hundreds? Thousands? But the only one that they reference is the one about tah gays. I haven't read about kids being killed because they disrespected their parents. Men being killed because they committed adultery, ate shellfish, wore polyester clothing or any of the other ridiculous things he wrote. This is called hypocrisy in my book.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Nader's bullshit meter should be going off on that.
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
He’s a tool. He still believes 99.9% of their crap.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
I've never heard of
Cenk Uygur until seeing this posting by gjohnsit today, which says something about the different media we all watch and listen to. But without any background with him, I find this video to be very insightful. He says a lot about the flimsy hollowness of the so-called experts and think tanks, the pathetic self-absorbtion of the political establishment, and he makes a lot of powerful points about the stupidity of the Russiagate process. I think he's on his way to noticing how stupid the whole thing is. Thank you, gjohnsit, again, for posting it.
TYT is like Liz Warren Dems
Better than mainstream Dems, but still married to the system.
Cenk was attacked often at Dkos for being too far left
and critical of Obama at times.
That was before I quit reading there on a daily basis. Don't know if he was forgiven when he backed Clinton after Sanders dropped out.
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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
The kos bots are still attacking anyone who they think
are too far left. The site is proudly saying that they are centrists. I saw one long time member calling people out on why the democrats keep losing elections and boy did he get Dawg piled on. He held his ground through. I think I'll send him an invite...
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Just took a look at TOP
and it struck me what wasn't there.
No history.
No economic theory.
No political theory.
No non-mainstream opinions.
Yep. This is what it has looked like since Her lost
the important issues that they used to cover slide off the wreck list quickly. That's if anyone writes them at all. The website should change its name to Daily Russia - Mueller - Putin instead. Anyone who calls this out there are attacked for it. This reminds me of when during the primary the front page was all about a republican and never about important issues.
How many people do you even recognize there? Heh, the fun thing to watch is when a newer member goes after someone who has been there since the early 2000's after the site was created.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Frigging auto correct
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
I'm thinking, if someone who aspires to media
…interpretations of political reality did not smell that bullshit coming — or at least within the first week or two — they should pack it up and leave. I am weary of people who leave the American people dumber than they were six minutes ago.
Of course he is walking Russiagate back. It is in a shambles around the Democrat's ankles. Duh.
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The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
Sounds to me as though Cenk's
Sounds to me as though Cenk's presenting a 'more credible' view of the "RUSSIA!" narrative by ditching some of the most appallingly stupid claims, burnishing Prog creds by defending Dr. Jill Stein (who I strongly suspect to have received more votes than were officially counted/announced,) while doubling down on the main theme of of "RUSSIAN!!! ELECTION INTERFERENCE!!!" and carefully protecting himself (not surprisingly, under the McCarthyist conditions, against being hauled off for inquisition/fired) against any charge of being sensible and factual regarding Russiagate. Part of the current propaganda attempt at 'appealing to Progs for the optics with 'a better, more convincing message' that we've been noting?
Personally, I haven't trusted him since after the final decisive primary cheat when an influx of money coincided with his ardent Clinton support, and that sudden apparent turn toward Progs following the general kinda raised my eyebrows more than my spirits...
Lol, getting all of the options above the comment appearing as typed out. Probably my computer, I suppose? I see a lot of such weirdness appearing in the pages here...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.