What is a republic? Foreword # 2
Submitted by Tony Wikrent on Wed, 12/20/2017 - 9:51am
To truly understand a republic, and its importance in the political development of humanity, you must appreciate the role of science. So let me ask this:
What do you think our government, our national policies, our national reputation and our political prospects would look like if 28 Senators and 162 Congressmen (or some similar number) were world leading scientists?
Examples: James Hansen, Mildred Dresselhaus, Steven Weinberg, Edward Witten
Comments
How About Zero Lawyers?
Or zero millionaires?
I'm not sure if that many scientists would be either necessary or representative. In an ideal republic the will to accept the scientific consensus should be a given for all Senators and Representatives.
I will even go so far as to suggest that scientists may suffer from tunnel vision and are just as susceptible to group think as any other group. Is it possible that philosophers and/or creative thinkers might be better Representatives and Senators?
"They'll say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we are disturbing the war." Howard Zinn
It would be nice if it was political science....
and the political process, was evidence based.
Hell it would be nice if there was a media outlet focused on evidence based news rather than corporate profit. But that seems our fate ...profit based corporate oligarchy..no matter the evidence nor the will of the people.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
I wait with some impatience to see where this is going.
I have always been of the opinion that we need Einstein at Princeton, teaching and doing research, not managing the country.
For political leadership I would like to see sober, responsible, capable persons who have records of substantial achievement who can't be bought (Bill Clinton) or intimidated (Obama). I don't expect a politician to agree with me on every possible issue--I have been known to be wrong about some things--but I do expect him or her to be honest, responsible and capable. (Mme. Clinton fails on all three points).
I am afraid I reject the notion that philosophers, that is to say intellectuals, should rule. I have not read all of Plato, but I did study the Republic, and even as a naïve and foolish young adult, that term being used advisedly, I found Plato's conclusions rather suspect. I know there is a theme going around some obscure corners of the internet about how Plato's work is a blueprint for good governance while Aristotle is denounced as a conspiratorial agent of influence of the priests at Delphi who murdered his patron Alexander. From about 1,000 miles away, apparently, as no contemporary records place Aristotle anywhere near Babylon at the correct time.
I do agree that we need a system in which people like great scientists and artists can pursue their vocations rather than being confined to whatever "station" they may have been born to.
Mary Bennett
Einstein was at least a socialist. (nmi)
The ruling classes need an extra party to make the rest of us feel as if we participate in democracy. That's what the Democrats are for. They make the US more durable than the Soviet Union was.
Probably not a lot different.
I couldn't see Hansen lasting long in office. The capitalists would find a way to get rid of him. His plan is to levy a nice looking tax upon the fossil fuel burners while begging the productive forces of society to do the right thing and while leaving the present-day relations of production intact. See e.g. John Bellamy Foster:
The ruling classes need an extra party to make the rest of us feel as if we participate in democracy. That's what the Democrats are for. They make the US more durable than the Soviet Union was.
A legislative body naturally attracts lawyers
as a scientific body naturally attracts scientists.
Unfortunately, we're subject to the first for continual guidance, whether 'Republic', or 'Constitutional Monarchy'.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
It would be quite different
If the people involved were from all walks of life but had demonstrated that they had achieved a heightened state of spiritual evolution, or demonstrated the qualities of someone who had taken the higher levels of spiritual initiation. Such as Jimmy Carter, MLK Jr., Abraham Lincoln.
It would be quite different
If the people involved were from all walks of life but had demonstrated that they had achieved a heightened state of spiritual evolution, or demonstrated the qualities of someone who had taken the higher levels of spiritual initiation. Such as Jimmy Carter, MLK Jr., Abraham Lincoln.