Monday Open Thread; December 18 is International Migrants Day

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 5:00am

December 18 is the 352nd day of the year, there are 13 days left
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Today's number is 18

18 is a multiple of 9, 3, and 6, leading to suspicions that it will generate unending fractions (more later)
18 is the sum of 3 of its divisors, 3, 6, and 9
18 is argon, a noble gas
I8 is the group containing noble (inert) gases in the periodic table

The Mahabarata has 18 books, (including the Bhagavad Gita which has 18 chapters) and concerns a war between 18 armies that lasted 18 days

OK, deep breath, but first recall that 1/3 is .333 repeated forever, 1/6 is .666 repeated forever and 1/9 is .111 repeated forever.
1/18 = 0.055 repeat 5 forever
2/18 = 0.111 repeat 1 forever (1/9)
3/18 = 0.166 repeat 6 forever (1/6)
4/18 = 0.222 repeat the 2 (2/9)
5/18 = 0.277 repeat the 7
6/18 = 0.333 repeat the 3 (1/3)
7/18 = 0.388 repeat the 8
8/18 = 0.444 repeat the 4 (4/9)
9/18 = .5 (1/2)

In most countries, 18 is the age of majority
In most countries, 18 is the voting age
18 is the age of sexual consent under the Mann Act
18 is 6 pm
There are 18 chapters in Ulysses by James Joyce

Title 18 of the US Code is CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE

18 BCE
was the Year of the Consulship of Lentulus and Lentulus (That would be Publius Cornelius Lentulus Marcellinus, and Gnaeus Cornelius Lentulus)
Caesar Augustus introduced two of the lex Julia, the Lex Iulia de Ambitu which punished bribery when acquiring political office and the Lex Iulia de Maritandis Ordinibus which restricted marriage between differing social classes
Juba II was King of Mauretania and Lugaid Riab nDerg was High King of Ireland
Nero Claudius Drusus was victorious at the Battle of the Lupia River and then built fortresses near Bonn, Dorsten, Haltern, and Oberaden

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18 CE
was the Year of the Consulship of Augustus and Caesar The hare & the bull; WTF?
The Roman poet Ovid died

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On this day in:

1271 – Kublai Khan renamed his empire "Yuan" starting the Yuan dynasty
1777 – The first national Thanksgiving in the US.
1865 – US Secretary of State Seward proclaimed the adoption of the Thirteenth Amendment
1892 – The First performance of The Nutcracker
1916 – The end of the Battle of Verdun
1917 – Congress passed the resolution that would become the 18th Amendment (prohibition)
1958 – The world's first communications satellite was launched. Communication didn't improve.
1972 – Nixon announced that the US would start bombing North Vietnam over Christmas.

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Born this day in:

1800 – James Watney, brewer, patron saint of pub darts players
1847 – Augusta Holmes, pianist and composer
1849 – Henrietta Edwards, women's rights activist and author, one of "Famous 5"
1856 – J. J. Thomson, electrifying physicist
1860 – Edward MacDowell, pianist and composer
1870 – Saki, short story writer
1879 – Paul Klee, painter
1890 – Edwin Howard Armstrong, invented FM radio
1897 – Fletcher Henderson, pianist and composer
1907 – Lawrence Lucie, jazz guitarist
1917 – Ossie Davis, actor and activist
1927 – Ramsey Clark, lawyer and politician
1928 – Harold Land, tenor saxophonist
1938 – Chas Chandler, bass player
1938 – Joel Hirschhorn, songwriter and composer
1939 – Michael Moorcock, author and songwriter
1941 – Sam Andrew, singer, songwriter and guitarist
1941 – Wadada Leo Smith, trumpet player and composer
1943 – Bobby Keys, saxophonist
1943 – Keith Richards, singer, songwriter, guitarist, and role model
1944 – Crispian Steele-Perkins, trumpet player
1946 – Steve Biko, activist, murdered by South African security officers
1948 – Bill Nelson, singer, songwriter and guitarist
1948 – Laurent Voulzy, ditto
1950 – Randy Castillo, drummer
1952 – John Leventhal, songwriter and producer
1953 – Elliot Easton, guitarist and singer
1963 – Norman Brown, singer and guitarist
1968 -- Alejandro Sanz, singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1975 -- Randy Houser, singer,songwriter, and guitarist wrote honky-tonk badonkadonk
1980 -- Christina Aguilera, singer and songwriter

Died this day in:

1737 -- Antonio Stradivari, instrument maker
1829 -- Jean-Baptiste Lamarck, biologist
1848 -- Bernard Bolzano, priest, logician, mathematician and philosopher
1869 -- Louis Moreau Gottschalk, pianist and composer
1961 -- Leo Reisman, violinist and bandleader
1977 -- Louis Untermeyer, poet, anthologist and critic
1987 -- Conny Plank, keyboards
1990 -- Paul Tortelier, cellist and composer
2016 -- Zsa Zsa, one of the Gabor sisters

Holidays, Holy Days, Festivals, Feast Days and such:
International Migrants Day

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So, for music,
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Kublai Khan

Tchaikovsky 's Nutcracker Suite

18th Amendment

1st communications satellite

Nixon's Christmas Bombing Campaign

Augusta Holmes

Edward MacDowell

Fletcher Henderson

Lawrence Lucie

Harold Land

Chas Chandler

Joel Hirschhorn

Michael Moorcock - really

Sam Andrew

Wadada Leo Smith

Bobby Keys

Keith Richards

Crispian Steele-Perkins

Steve Biko

Bill Nelson

Laurent Voulzy

Randy Castillo

John Leventhal

Elliot Easton

Norman Brown

Alejandro Sanz

Leo Reisman

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Bonus:
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Sam Andrew et. al.

Keith Richards et. al.

picture is P1030411 taken 11/25/2012 (Shasta)

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Submitted by NCTim on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 8:09am

Morning

No judgement, can't say good yet.

18 is considered the age for becoming an adult. Most of us remember when 18 year olds could be conscripted, but could not vote.

Bill Nelson? Nice pull. 18 is considered the age of consent.

More immigrants/furners from the deserts of Africa ->

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 9:46am

Good morning, Tim, late rising here. Thanks for reading and

@NCTim
especially for the contributions. Ali Farka Toure is a long time fave. Have a great day.

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Submitted by Lookout on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 8:36am

New moon today

happened really about 12:30 this AM (central time) This moon is appropriately called the Cold Moon, but we move to the wolf moon tomorrow.

lunar cycle_NEW_0.jpg

Full Moon names date back to Native Americans, of what is now the northern and eastern United States. The tribes kept track of the seasons by giving distinctive names to each recurring full Moon. Their names were applied to the entire month in which each occurred. There was some variation in the Moon names, but in general, the same ones were current throughout the Algonquin tribes from New England to Lake Superior. European settlers followed that custom and created some of their own names. Since the lunar month is only 29 days long on the average, the full Moon dates shift from year to year. Here is the Farmers Almanac's list of the full Moon names.

• Full Wolf Moon - January Amid the cold and deep snows of midwinter, the wolf packs howled hungrily outside Indian villages. Thus, the name for January's full Moon. Sometimes it was also referred to as the Old Moon, or the Moon After Yule. Some called it the Full Snow Moon, but most tribes applied that name to the next Moon.

• Full Snow Moon - February Since the heaviest snow usually falls during this month, native tribes of the north and east most often called February's full Moon the Full Snow Moon. Some tribes also referred to this Moon as the Full Hunger Moon, since harsh weather conditions in their areas made hunting very difficult.

• Full Worm - March Moon As the temperature begins to warm and the ground begins to thaw, earthworm casts appear, heralding the return of the robins. The more northern tribes knew this Moon as the Full Crow Moon, when the cawing of crows signaled the end of winter; or the Full Crust Moon, because the snow cover becomes crusted from thawing by day and freezing at night. The Full Sap Moon, marking the time of tapping maple trees, is another variation. To the settlers, it was also known as the Lenten Moon, and was considered to be the last full Moon of winter.

• Full Pink Moon - April This name came from the herb moss pink, or wild ground phlox, which is one of the earliest widespread flowers of the spring. Other names for this month's celestial body include the Full Sprouting Grass Moon, the Egg Moon, and among coastal tribes the Full Fish Moon, because this was the time that the shad swam upstream to spawn.

• Full Flower Moon - May In most areas, flowers are abundant everywhere during this time. Thus, the name of this Moon. Other names include the Full Corn Planting Moon, or the Milk Moon.

• Full Strawberry Moon - June This name was universal to every Algonquin tribe. However, in Europe they called it the Rose Moon. Also because the relatively short season for harvesting strawberries comes each year during the month of June . . . so the full Moon that occurs during that month was christened for the strawberry!

• The Full Buck Moon - July July is normally the month when the new antlers of buck deer push out of their foreheads in coatings of velvety fur. It was also often called the Full Thunder Moon, for the reason that thunderstorms are most frequent during this time. Another name for this month's Moon was the Full Hay Moon.

• Full Sturgeon Moon - August The fishing tribes are given credit for the naming of this Moon, since sturgeon, a large fish of the Great Lakes and other major bodies of water, were most readily caught during this month. A few tribes knew it as the Full Red Moon because, as the Moon rises, it appears reddish through any sultry haze. It was also called the Green Corn Moon or Grain Moon.

• Full Harvest Moon - September This is the full Moon that occurs closest to the autumn equinox. In two years out of three, the Harvest Moon comes in September, but in some years it occurs in October. At the peak of harvest, farmers can work late into the night by the light of this Moon. Usually the full Moon rises an average of 50 minutes later each night, but for the few nights around the Harvest Moon, the Moon seems to rise at nearly the same time each night: just 25 to 30 minutes later across the U.S., and only 10 to 20 minutes later for much of Canada and Europe. Corn, pumpkins, squash, beans, and wild rice the chief Indian staples are now ready for gathering.

• Full Hunter's Moon - October With the leaves falling and the deer fattened, it is time to hunt. Since the fields have been reaped, hunters can easily see fox and the animals which have come out to glean.

• Full Beaver Moon - November This was the time to set beaver traps before the swamps froze, to ensure a supply of warm winter furs. Another interpretation suggests that the name Full Beaver Moon comes from the fact that the beavers are now actively preparing for winter. It is sometimes also referred to as the Frosty Moon.

• The Full Cold Moon; or the Full Long Nights Moon - December During this month the winter cold fastens its grip, and nights are at their longest and darkest. It is also sometimes called the Moon before Yule. The term Long Night Moon is a doubly appropriate name because the midwinter night is indeed long, and because the Moon is above the horizon for a long time. The midwinter full Moon has a high trajectory across the sky because it is opposite a low Sun.

Next month we'll have the full wolf moon on 1/1/18 and a second full moon on 1/31/18 called a blue moon.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vr0amOKCHo]

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAVFpThoeb4]

We'll y'all don't get too looney, and don't moon anyone!

hold the moon.jpg

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Submitted by NCTim on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 8:48am

Super

@Lookout Two of my favorite players.

happened really about 12:30 this AM (central time) This moon is appropriately called the Cold Moon, but we move to the wolf moon tomorrow. Full Moon names date back to Native Americans, of what is now the northern and eastern United States. The tribes kept track of the seasons by giving distinctive names to each recurring full Moon. Their names were applied to the entire month in which each occurred. There was some variation in the Moon names, but in general, the same ones were current throughout the Algonquin tribes from New England to Lake Superior. European settlers followed that custom and created some of their own names. Since the lunar month is only 29 days long on the average, the full Moon dates shift from year to year. Here is the Farmers Almanac's list of the full Moon names. • Full Wolf Moon - January Amid the cold and deep snows of midwinter, the wolf packs howled hungrily outside Indian villages. Thus, the name for January's full Moon. Sometimes it was also referred to as the Old Moon, or the Moon After Yule. Some called it the Full Snow Moon, but most tribes applied that name to the next Moon. • Full Snow Moon - February Since the heaviest snow usually falls during this month, native tribes of the north and east most often called February's full Moon the Full Snow Moon. Some tribes also referred to this Moon as the Full Hunger Moon, since harsh weather conditions in their areas made hunting very difficult. • Full Worm - March Moon As the temperature begins to warm and the ground begins to thaw, earthworm casts appear, heralding the return of the robins. The more northern tribes knew this Moon as the Full Crow Moon, when the cawing of crows signaled the end of winter; or the Full Crust Moon, because the snow cover becomes crusted from thawing by day and freezing at night. The Full Sap Moon, marking the time of tapping maple trees, is another variation. To the settlers, it was also known as the Lenten Moon, and was considered to be the last full Moon of winter. • Full Pink Moon - April This name came from the herb moss pink, or wild ground phlox, which is one of the earliest widespread flowers of the spring. Other names for this month's celestial body include the Full Sprouting Grass Moon, the Egg Moon, and among coastal tribes the Full Fish Moon, because this was the time that the shad swam upstream to spawn. • Full Flower Moon - May In most areas, flowers are abundant everywhere during this time. Thus, the name of this Moon. Other names include the Full Corn Planting Moon, or the Milk Moon. • Full Strawberry Moon - June This name was universal to every Algonquin tribe. However, in Europe they called it the Rose Moon. Also because the relatively short season for harvesting strawberries comes each year during the month of June . . . so the full Moon that occurs during that month was christened for the strawberry! • The Full Buck Moon - July July is normally the month when the new antlers of buck deer push out of their foreheads in coatings of velvety fur. It was also often called the Full Thunder Moon, for the reason that thunderstorms are most frequent during this time. Another name for this month's Moon was the Full Hay Moon. • Full Sturgeon Moon - August The fishing tribes are given credit for the naming of this Moon, since sturgeon, a large fish of the Great Lakes and other major bodies of water, were most readily caught during this month. A few tribes knew it as the Full Red Moon because, as the Moon rises, it appears reddish through any sultry haze. It was also called the Green Corn Moon or Grain Moon. • Full Harvest Moon - September This is the full Moon that occurs closest to the autumn equinox. In two years out of three, the Harvest Moon comes in September, but in some years it occurs in October. At the peak of harvest, farmers can work late into the night by the light of this Moon. Usually the full Moon rises an average of 50 minutes later each night, but for the few nights around the Harvest Moon, the Moon seems to rise at nearly the same time each night: just 25 to 30 minutes later across the U.S., and only 10 to 20 minutes later for much of Canada and Europe. Corn, pumpkins, squash, beans, and wild rice the chief Indian staples are now ready for gathering. • Full Hunter's Moon - October With the leaves falling and the deer fattened, it is time to hunt. Since the fields have been reaped, hunters can easily see fox and the animals which have come out to glean. • Full Beaver Moon - November This was the time to set beaver traps before the swamps froze, to ensure a supply of warm winter furs. Another interpretation suggests that the name Full Beaver Moon comes from the fact that the beavers are now actively preparing for winter. It is sometimes also referred to as the Frosty Moon. • The Full Cold Moon; or the Full Long Nights Moon - December During this month the winter cold fastens its grip, and nights are at their longest and darkest. It is also sometimes called the Moon before Yule. The term Long Night Moon is a doubly appropriate name because the midwinter night is indeed long, and because the Moon is above the horizon for a long time. The midwinter full Moon has a high trajectory across the sky because it is opposite a low Sun. Next month we'll have the full wolf moon on 1/1/18 and a second full moon on 1/31/18 called a blue moon. [video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vr0amOKCHo] [video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAVFpThoeb4] We'll y'all don't get too looney, and don't moon anyone!

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Submitted by Lookout on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 9:04am

The Cold Moon was our SUPER moon for 2017

@NCTim @NCTim

You are a perceptive one! Because the next two moons are considered super moons too...

December's supermoon is actually the first of three back-to-back supermoon full moons to come in the next two months. On Jan. 1 and Jan. 31, the full moon will also occur near the moon's arrival at perigee, according to NASA, which billed the line up as a supermoon trilogy. The Jan. 31 supermoon is also the second full moon of January, making it a Blue Moon, and also occurs during a total lunar eclipse.
https://www.space.com/34515-supermoon-guide.html

for more info on the eclipse 1/31/18
https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/lunar/2018-january-31

I like your clip too...

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 10:02am

Thanks lookout, that could've been a column in and of itself.

@Lookout
There's a moon related item on the 24th, btw.

This drives me to consider some updated moon names, The Moon Pie moon, The Wally Moon moon, The Mooney Mite moon, The Moon Racing moon (think Moon hubcaps), and, of course, the Moon Zappa moon fer sure fer sure.

Have a good one.

happened really about 12:30 this AM (central time) This moon is appropriately called the Cold Moon, but we move to the wolf moon tomorrow. Full Moon names date back to Native Americans, of what is now the northern and eastern United States. The tribes kept track of the seasons by giving distinctive names to each recurring full Moon. Their names were applied to the entire month in which each occurred. There was some variation in the Moon names, but in general, the same ones were current throughout the Algonquin tribes from New England to Lake Superior. European settlers followed that custom and created some of their own names. Since the lunar month is only 29 days long on the average, the full Moon dates shift from year to year. Here is the Farmers Almanac's list of the full Moon names. • Full Wolf Moon - January Amid the cold and deep snows of midwinter, the wolf packs howled hungrily outside Indian villages. Thus, the name for January's full Moon. Sometimes it was also referred to as the Old Moon, or the Moon After Yule. Some called it the Full Snow Moon, but most tribes applied that name to the next Moon. • Full Snow Moon - February Since the heaviest snow usually falls during this month, native tribes of the north and east most often called February's full Moon the Full Snow Moon. Some tribes also referred to this Moon as the Full Hunger Moon, since harsh weather conditions in their areas made hunting very difficult. • Full Worm - March Moon As the temperature begins to warm and the ground begins to thaw, earthworm casts appear, heralding the return of the robins. The more northern tribes knew this Moon as the Full Crow Moon, when the cawing of crows signaled the end of winter; or the Full Crust Moon, because the snow cover becomes crusted from thawing by day and freezing at night. The Full Sap Moon, marking the time of tapping maple trees, is another variation. To the settlers, it was also known as the Lenten Moon, and was considered to be the last full Moon of winter. • Full Pink Moon - April This name came from the herb moss pink, or wild ground phlox, which is one of the earliest widespread flowers of the spring. Other names for this month's celestial body include the Full Sprouting Grass Moon, the Egg Moon, and among coastal tribes the Full Fish Moon, because this was the time that the shad swam upstream to spawn. • Full Flower Moon - May In most areas, flowers are abundant everywhere during this time. Thus, the name of this Moon. Other names include the Full Corn Planting Moon, or the Milk Moon. • Full Strawberry Moon - June This name was universal to every Algonquin tribe. However, in Europe they called it the Rose Moon. Also because the relatively short season for harvesting strawberries comes each year during the month of June . . . so the full Moon that occurs during that month was christened for the strawberry! • The Full Buck Moon - July July is normally the month when the new antlers of buck deer push out of their foreheads in coatings of velvety fur. It was also often called the Full Thunder Moon, for the reason that thunderstorms are most frequent during this time. Another name for this month's Moon was the Full Hay Moon. • Full Sturgeon Moon - August The fishing tribes are given credit for the naming of this Moon, since sturgeon, a large fish of the Great Lakes and other major bodies of water, were most readily caught during this month. A few tribes knew it as the Full Red Moon because, as the Moon rises, it appears reddish through any sultry haze. It was also called the Green Corn Moon or Grain Moon. • Full Harvest Moon - September This is the full Moon that occurs closest to the autumn equinox. In two years out of three, the Harvest Moon comes in September, but in some years it occurs in October. At the peak of harvest, farmers can work late into the night by the light of this Moon. Usually the full Moon rises an average of 50 minutes later each night, but for the few nights around the Harvest Moon, the Moon seems to rise at nearly the same time each night: just 25 to 30 minutes later across the U.S., and only 10 to 20 minutes later for much of Canada and Europe. Corn, pumpkins, squash, beans, and wild rice the chief Indian staples are now ready for gathering. • Full Hunter's Moon - October With the leaves falling and the deer fattened, it is time to hunt. Since the fields have been reaped, hunters can easily see fox and the animals which have come out to glean. • Full Beaver Moon - November This was the time to set beaver traps before the swamps froze, to ensure a supply of warm winter furs. Another interpretation suggests that the name Full Beaver Moon comes from the fact that the beavers are now actively preparing for winter. It is sometimes also referred to as the Frosty Moon. • The Full Cold Moon; or the Full Long Nights Moon - December During this month the winter cold fastens its grip, and nights are at their longest and darkest. It is also sometimes called the Moon before Yule. The term Long Night Moon is a doubly appropriate name because the midwinter night is indeed long, and because the Moon is above the horizon for a long time. The midwinter full Moon has a high trajectory across the sky because it is opposite a low Sun. Next month we'll have the full wolf moon on 1/1/18 and a second full moon on 1/31/18 called a blue moon. [video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vr0amOKCHo] [video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAVFpThoeb4] We'll y'all don't get too looney, and don't moon anyone!

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Submitted by NCTim on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 8:43am

Guilty by association

Your musical selections vectored me here:

Dig those threads!

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 10:05am

Hey, great tangent, one could, I guess, get lost.

@NCTim

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Submitted by Azazello on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 8:54am

Happy Birthday Keith, and Merry Christmas.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDMDMLF2j1A width:400 height:240]

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The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.

Submitted by NCTim on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 9:20am

Hola

@Azazello HIPPY HOLIDAYS!

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 10:10am

Talk about threads.

@NCTim

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 10:08am

Mornin', thanks and Feliz Navidad to you. And, in that vein

@Azazello
(and slotted for the 24th)

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Submitted by Raggedy Ann on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 9:50am

Good morning, el ~~

18 = 9 in numerology. An ending number, as numerology is in cycles of 9. I'll be entering my 8 personal year in 2018. Our globe will be entering it's 2 universal year in 2018.

Great tunes today - many thanks!

Have a beautiful day, everyone!

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 10:24am

G'morning, RA. Since 18=9, isn't 12-18 3? Further,

@Raggedy Ann
wouldn't 12182017 be 4? Given that we're deep into the computer age, shouldn't we bu using hex, leaving 18 as 9, but making 12-18 C and all like that?

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Submitted by riverlover on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 9:55am

The first communications satellite was Telstar?

I just checked the Wiki entry. Telstar 1 and 2 are still up there!

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 10:17am

Good morning. Not really as to Tellstar being first.

@riverlover
The item above (1958) refers to SCORE, which stored and retransmitted at least one communication. It was followed by Echo, which passively reflected signals (iirc). However, the first rock song named after a communication satellite was Tellstar, so that's what ya get. Thanks for reading and for checking on T1 and 2.

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Submitted by riverlover on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 10:38am

I had forgotten about ECHO.

@enhydra lutris My family must have been earth-space oriented. Rocks and fossils were big.

Telstars must have been launched so early that no one could have envisioned the dead stuff up there. I think many satellites are now planned to reenter the atmosphere when their utility is done. Or no one is paying their utility bill.

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Submitted by riverlover on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 12:46pm

What is hapening with the Amtrack derailment over I-5?

Causalties, yes, deaths, yes. New Tacoma station, yes. Non-military wastage to check rails?We are so spoiled. /s

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Submitted by Deja on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 1:45pm

Amtrak derailment

@riverlover
Just saw an aerial shot, and it looks way worse than the early morning photo from a vehicle on the dark freeway. At least 6 dead. Mangled mess. Poor people. Here's a link to an abc shot

https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/washington-amtrak-crash...

Submitted by NCTim on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 1:05pm

More pissed than usual

Just plucked January COBRA bill out of the mail. BCBS +$100/month!

Expect Internet to sky rocket too.

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Submitted by Steven D on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 1:57pm

Have yourself a merry little Christmas

@NCTim Emphasis on the "little."

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 12/18/2017 - 3:21pm

Ugly news, sorry to hear it.

@NCTim

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Submitted by riverlover on Tue, 12/19/2017 - 4:56am

NCTim and others including me

@enhydra lutris Our head hair is the same length as Trump's. We arrange it differently. And ours may be natural color. Going to grey in my case.

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