banned from FB, what's next in this Orwellian tragedy
Submitted by ggersh on Thu, 11/16/2017 - 7:38pm
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My personal Facebook account has been banned for three days because two months ago I shared a meticulously sourced article about admitted false flag operations by governments around the world. Here's the article (not by me) if anyone's curious:
http://educateinspirechange.org/alternative-news/dont-believe-conspiraci... …
2:57 AM - 16 Nov 2017
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Is the Zuckerberg and editor eating paper true or a joke?
I do not go on FB. Did that happen?
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Sorry, missed that bit
sounds like a good joke though, which usually has
some truth to it.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
I have an admission to make.
I have never actually read 1984. I have only read about it.
It went right over my head.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
That's cool, I've forgotten more than I
care to admit. Whoop's -g-
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Books that shaped my life: The Rise and Fall
of the Third Reich, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. Fahrenheit 451, Animal Farm, and Catch 22, 1984 (forgot the first time), king Coal, The Jungle, Zola’s Germinal, and One Day in the Life of Ivan Denosovitch.
They would be my On my REQUIRED READING LIST for everyone. And in a classroom where they could be explained and discussed.
EDIT: autocorrect and bad grammar caused this one.
EDIT EDIT: Forgot to put a couple on the list. Of course 1984.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
@on the cusp Not glue? s/
Not glue? s/
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
It is obvious now
That for those of us who read 1984 as a warning, others were reading as an instruction manual.
Everything now is Reductio ad Putinum.
Propaganda has become the brightest of Churchill's "lights of perverted science".
Indeed we are sinking into the abyss of a new dark age.
Yes, have to completely agree
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
time to prepper for
the oncoming apocalypse. I don't believe there's enough time to save life as we knew it in 2017. I'm not so sure a Dem win in 2020 reverses anything, even with a take back of the House.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
@Wink
Alternating for each next step of the plan enacted by both wings of the Corporate party? I'm afraid that you're right; probably the biggest difference would be not getting anything negative in the media about anything the Dems did...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Fixed it, I think???? -g-
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Outstanding...this^^^
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
I love Caitlin
She is one of the clearest voices we have. Everything I read of hers cuts to the quick.
Marilyn
"Make dirt, not war." eyo
She sure is, sadly I don't read her stuff religiously.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
... My personal Facebook
Lol, of course the propagandists banned her for posting stuff about proven False Fags while they're running 'RUSSIA!!!' False Flags about Words And Ads Of Mass Destruction.
These are psychopathic control freaks who claim to feel that nobody could really care about routine police murders - and probably really do feel that way themselves. And want to kill the truth by censoring it all away or that their stories and agenda will prevail, unchallenged by fact.
Edited to remove a repeated word. Time to curl up with kitty and a book, lol.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Enjoy the book and the kurl
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
@ggersh
Thanks, I did! Re-reading Dune and with a purrball involved, it's always a lovely kurrrrrl.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
To tell you the truth, when I saw she was banned
…from Facebook and the sincere way she reacted to it yesterday... [This link tells the whole story.] ...it made my heart hurt.
I thought of the clueless lackey at Facebook who blithely snipped Caitlin's connection to her online family. I felt the concentrated helplessness that she must have, at first. It seems Caitlin had used terminology in her title that the lackey mistook for one on Facebook's list of "fake news words" that must be punished. No neurons were fired during this process.
Then I thought of Facebook pandering to the privileged fools we send to Washington; and how Facebook solved their "fake news" crisis with a chic urban afterthought: Hire some code monkeys, give them a "bad word" list, and turn them loose to censor the speech of the American people. Because it's not unconstitutional if corporations do it instead of the government.
Then, I thought of the post-1990 American people and how they let the lack of a Fairness Doctrine stand in the public arena, and how they let the media monopolies grow into monoliths — (both of which have pissed me off continuously for 20 years). I thought, "In what universe do these people deserve free speech? They refused to even safeguard it for the next generation."
Then, I thought how glad I was for Caitlin, that she is free of the rule of the US Overlords, and she can speak. She can also see the dangerous hairline cracks in our foundation that we have normalized. This is a very good thing for everyone.
Johnstone's description of the event.
People have for the most part
trusted the "the amerikan dream" and hence the
government, it is misplaced trust and the consequences
are playing out for sure.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
@ggersh By the mid-90s, we no
By the mid-90s, we no longer had a choice about whether or not to have a Telecommunications Act. The Fairness Doctrine is different. It happened during the 80s, when we still had some influence over the government.
As I recall, I felt a sense of complete powerlessness about that in my teens (and about the mergers of the corporate press). As I further recall, some of us talked to the government about the issue, but most of the American people were being stupid assholes at that time, and we didn't have the numbers necessary to make the correct impact, as with so many left-wing or just plain civic issues of the time.
It often appears to me that many of us are stuck mentally in that time. The Reagan-Bush years were a shock-and-awe-style lesson to the left and to liberals that taught us we were a tiny, beleaguered minority in our own country and that America, as a country, hated us and would never be on our side. Further, we were informed pretty directly we had no business holding office ("You're a liberal, Dukakis! You're a liberal! You're a liberal!") or being part of politics at all. At the same time we were being propagandized into believing that the right-wing slide all around us was an expression of America's inherent identity ("America is a center-right nation"), we were also encouraged to believe that the right-wing slide of the country was due to the stupidity of all those who were not liberals or leftists. Buying into either one would have been a mistake; buying into both, well, let's just say it's bad.
I think that's often why we berate the American people today for being stupid assholes--because the 80s made a big impression on us. We are where we are now because Americans were stupid assholes from about 1968-1988, and we haven't forgiven them, or ourselves. Much like the Democrats we despise, we act like it's still 1987, and ignore the fact that America did actually wake up, just a lot too late. That's a data point that doesn't fit into the frame of America being an evil, stupid, rightist nation filled with evil, stupid, right-wing people. We might want to remember, from time to time, who first popularized that frame.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I have a theory about what happened from 1968
…to perhaps the early 90s. I think as Vietnam ended, the American people stood up and turned their back on the government. They were disgusted that they had just murdered a big hunk of an entire generation of young American men. For nothing. For the next 30 years or so, those dead men would live in picture frames sitting on top of their parents TV sets. Forever young and healthy on the verge of a promising life.
I don't think the soul of the nation really engaged again until the Clinton years. If then, since PenisGate was a real turnoff. But by 2001 everyone was dragged in. But I remember thinking at the time that Americans seemed slow and uninformed and intellectually passive. Like they were out of practice in the art of thinking.
I wonder if anyone else noticed something like that?
I believe one see's it think's it
but few understand let alone comprehend how it will
affect us down the road. the propaganda machine is everywhere
feeding us everything pro veteran/war/gwot, but none of the
consequences of these actions.
Damn even the NFL players took a hiatus this week cause it was
Veterans Day.....if only everyone would realize how bad we fuck
our vet's let alone the average jane/joe.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Mostly agree. The hippies
died out by 1973, were never heard from again by '75 (except in the movies). Not that hippies by themselves were any big deal, but the one thing they did was keep the rest of us informed about what "the government" was up to. But as Vietnam died down so did the hippies. And once Nixon was kicked out in '74 "the normal order of things" seemed to be restored, and America was back to being America again, no need to follow Washington, D.C., SNL would do that for us - it was off with the bell bottoms and off to work we went!
And, for me, it wasn't until the Supremes picked G. Dubya in 2000 that I started paying attention again. I figured, once we finally elected a Dem in '92 I could get back to taking a political nap. And, yes, while Bubba acted more like a Repub he was Still a Dem, dammit, so the world was safe! So, it wasn't until the Supremes acted very partisan in selecting Dubya that many of us that were somewhat awake in the early '70s finally awoke from our nearly 30 year snooze. And by then it was nearly too late. Had we known then, in 2000, or even after 9/11, what we know now, it's likely we would have still had time to reverse the downward spiral we were in. We were awake in 2001, but we didn't yet know how truly fucked we were.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
And in "our" defense,
none of us could have seen this coming. Sure, we should have gotten a bit of a clue during Bubba's eight years but, really, nobody - Nobody - thought Wall Street and the corporates were out to fuck America. This had been a stealth ops by the Birchers (John Birch Society) who had pledged to kill FDR's New Deal before the ink was even dry. Well, it took them some 80 years but by God they did! Or nearly have, about to declare mission accomplished. But there really was no way to see this coming. Until too late. Brilliant ops by the Birchers. America's loss. Experiment over. we couldn't keep it.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
A lot of people also got VERY rich in the '80s
especially those in on the ground floor with computers; most had little formal education. I saw people making perhaps $7 an hour in my shop move to Microsoft then and stay to become department heads. No one expected M to last as so many other computerized typesetting options had appeared and then disappeared.
Great comment
Raygun the great could do no wrong, damn he won all but one state if I
remember correctly, and this being a guy with Alzheimer's. So if we did
wake up, either we woke up on the wrong side of bed or the propaganda is
working in spades as to why(911)who(empire/militaristic), what(facist/christian right/corporate/oligarchy).
you said it better in your statement I bolded.
IRT to fairness or telecommunication act , it's playing out the same
regardless. Sinclair is scarier than Faux only in that so few know
about them.
http://variety.com/2017/politics/news/fcc-media-ownership-rules-sinclair...
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
some of those stupid assholes are still trying
not helpful when you take the position you argue against,imo.
"deplorables" has a ring to it, why not say that?
@irishking The stupid assholes
The stupid assholes of the time were mainly those who had been left or liberal in the sixties and abandoned that position to cheer for Ronald Reagan. Not deplorables. Former left-of-center people who decided they would rather be upper-middle class and believe it's morning in America than deal with all those messy causes that could get you shot.
However, it's also clear that the white,right-wing part of the working class was absolutely played by Reagan and his Republican party. He got them to believe he was on their side, and they practically worshipped him. All the while he was fucking them over six ways from Sunday. This is a clear mirror image of what Obama did to the left much later (no wonder Obama looked up to Reagan--he wanted to be an equally efficient con man).
So while I think you know my solidarity is with the working class, including the right-wing part of it, I can obviously disagree with them when I think their choices are stupid. Standing in solidarity doesn't mean I give up my capacity to decide what I think is right and wrong. I can state that their decision to support Reagan was stupid without thinking of them as deplorables. Those choices were stupid, and, unlike the choice to support George W. Bush later, were not made under the pressure of trauma. (I don't condone people supporting W after 9/11, but I understand how a lot of people might become a lot more easily manipulated under the pressure of a shocking attack and thousands of deaths, which was the point of the exercise, IMO). No, when the right-wing white working class made the decision to support Reagan, it was driven purely by a lust for winning and a desire to beat down the political factions which had beaten them in the 60s and 70s. It was an expression of team spirit for a political team that didn't give a shit about them, used them ruthlessly, and stabbed them in the back at the end of the day.
The fact that some of them still won't see this and continue to believe that socialism or Communism is responsible for their woes, in a time when you have to use a microscope to find even liberalism in DC, much less anything resembling an actual left, shows the persistence of that team spirit. And at this point, any expression of partisan or ideological team spirit is not just stupid, but damned stupid.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
what you said was a bit different.
but not a big deal. even small.
what you might say about me!
lol
@irishking I didn't
I didn't express what was in my mind as specifically as I should have.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
thanks
I know you are a fair person.
Hey My Space is still up and running.
Maybe Caitlin could make that place a thing again. I was registered on there years ago. I wonder if I still am.
Well it’s still there and i’’m still there. But it looks like it’s a site basically for bands and music now.
Never mind.
As for Fuckerberg, he’s in on the scam with the Clinton Creature and the DNC. I’ve posted his text to Podesta from wiki leaks. This is all a scam.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/50406#efmAP8AQAAQCAQRAQ0AQ4...
EDIT: decided to spell Space correctly.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Fuckerberg, can't beat that
any music site is a good site!
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Any excuse for censorship.
They're using the Russia thing to justify censorship on Facebook, and probably other social media. They'll end up censoring WikiLeaks too, for obvious reason (that really have nothing to do with the Russians).
They would like to censor any antiestablishment opinion, justifying it as Russian-generated propaganda, or as 'being influenced by Russian propaganda'
I hope the people aren't dumb to fall for obvious government censorship tactics. It probably won't matter what the people think, they will censor 'inappropriate' opinion (and especially facts) regardless.
Mike Taylor
Russia from the "left"
North Korea from tinyhands, the puppets are
being played by tptb behind the curtain.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Censorship
I have been noticing that more and more people with progressive left views are being censored or banned from social media sites while extreme alt right sites are still being allowed to stand. This censorship is currently selective and I believe it is being used as a test on us for when net neutrality dies on Dec 15 or thereabouts.
I want to be very clear where I stand. I am firmly against censorship of people's political/economic views regardless of whether or not I agree with them. We seem to be moving into a complete totalitarian state here in the US. We have already lost much of our democratic electoral and judicial processes and now we are looking at the loss of being able to freely communicate with one another.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Wait! Maybe we're the swamp….
I notice the parties react differently to this state of affairs. Democrats are quick to normalize or deny what's really happening. But that's no substitute for adapting or reformulating a comeback.
Republicans execute rapid fire attacks, delivered robotically, with little reaction to whether they are a hit or miss. They evolve at a machine-like pace, changing just a tick at a time, repeating without meaning.
Their most committed constituents attach to the Parties like velcro plugs, with not much neural activity. However, their more conditional constituents seem a little wide-eyed and restless. Perhaps we are still in the cycle of the political "outsider." That could bode poorly for the establishment.
The fact that the alt-right are allowed
to stand is to me just one more tell. It's not the Repugnant RWNJs that are the scary part of that to me, it is the totalitarian and extremely bigoted violent ones that can later be used as shock troops for the take over. Just like in that book "It Can't Happen Here" where the supporters of extremist views then become a police force, watching for dissent and with the authority to arrest for that. The right wing extremists are not really bucking this corrupt system at all, they just want to take it over, while the left DOES want to buck corruption and take it down. That view cannot be tolerated and of course will be the first target. IS the first target.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
The Alt-Right has been more like the canary in the coalmine
They’re usually the first to be banned. It’s been one whole year since Twitter, for example, “purged” posters identified with the Alt-Right.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=purge+twitter+alt-right&t=ffsb&ia=web
That’s the problem, isn’t it? Right-wing nutjobs get banned and indies and lefties applaud or remain silent (the Pastor Niemoller scenario).
Then the next wave of censorship hits — taking down the indies and lefties.
@gulfgal98
Incrementalism works on many different species of frog. And, as Heinlein expressed in one of his novels, it ain't no kindness to kill a man slowly.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
This is a crucially important post
Many thanks, GG.
Your incisive direct summaries or questions always bring out the central issues at the heart of things.
Thank you
I am humbled.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
@Mike Taylor
Could be worse already (although probably will be, at this rate) since Hillary wanted to know why they couldn't just drone Julian Assange. We'll probably be first isolated from anything but what they want us to hear before this sort of casual murder of dissenters starts, so that word doesn't spread.
Makes you wonder if the voices protesting censorship on places like FB and Twitter are being thinned out already, or if some of the more-aware people are boycotting in disgust, as there should be more outcry... does anyone know if the numbers of active users on these places are going down more than would be expected with the known bannings?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Debbie Lusignan (The Sane Progressive)
was banned from YouTube for debunking the official narrative about the Las Vegas shooting. She now posts on BitChute.
If you haven’t seen her videos about this topic, I highly recommend you do so. The first one is over two hours long but is well worth the time to watch from start to finish.
"Please clap." -- Jeb Bush
Got that video bookmarked
was going to watch it this weekend.
Didn't know she got knocked off YT, am waiting
for the shoe to drop on others, and the shoe always
drops.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Had it bookmarked then this happened
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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
On BitChute
It’s on BitChute.com — go to the “saneprogressive” channel
"Please clap." -- Jeb Bush
Thanks!
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
@Outsourcing Is Treason
Thanks for reminding me! I was going to look her up on there and kept getting distracted by computer/connection issues, as well as the difficulty of trying to keep up with the interesting and important essays on here.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Every time some drama about
FB arises, I just shake my head and congratulate myself for not falling for that site. When my friends say - oh I just follow my family and play the games - I think about following family in real time and not living my life on-line, which is Zuckerberg's goal. Do I want people from my past that I've had no contact with for 50 years look me up? No! I've moved on from high school. Ok, I'm ranting about myself. Sorry, I'll stop - but I feel better, somehow.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Was on it for a couple months way back in 09
trying to connect while going through a tough
time, after a month of farmville and related BS
I figured out there was a real good reason for not
keeping in touch with many HS "chums"
Man I hated that farmville. -g-
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Creeping Fascism everywhere
I found out to my horror and distress that joining Facebook is now a de facto requirement to participate in local SCA activities - the local Barony has put everything on Facebook and locked it away behind a login page, and they communicate with each other 99% on Facebook and hardly at all on their OFFICIAL mailing list (which is dying because no one uses it).
I have never joined Facebook and I never will - they make you give up too much personal information, right upfront, and don't allow you to hide behind an alias. Fuckerberg claims this is for "convenience" - the company's, for sure, because it isn't my convenience.
Will be looking into this further and finding out how widespread the infestation is, and how far up the chain I will have to protest it. I have already done so locally, and am prepared to take it all the way to the Board of Directors if I must. I am also prepared to walk away from the SCA forever if they cannot see what a serious issue this is. (So much for their vaunted "no harassment" policy!)
PS to ggersh: Facebook is like herpes - if you have ever used it for any reason, you can never get rid of it.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
You verbalize my sentiments.
My husband joined way back when because his brother was out of the country. He lasted on it for one month. We deleted his account, but once you join, you are a lifer. I never joined because I saw the danger in revealing too much about myself. I'm happy to reveal stuff in person - not forever online.
In the movie about Facebook (The Social Network, I think, with Justin Timberlake), Fuckerberg (I like that twist) says that people will start living their lives online. That put the nail in the coffin for me. I want to live my life in real time. There's a poem in there somewhere! Heu, smiley.......
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
@TheOtherMaven What?!? Et tu, SCA!
What?!? Et tu, SCA!
For frack's sakes, what's going on in your Barony?
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
They're taking the easy, lazy route
It's "too much trouble" to extend communication to people who don't use Facebook, when Facebook is so easy, so convenient, so available. Nobody uses the mailing list, nobody uses email, nobody - well, almost nobody - texts, nobody picks up the phone....
At least some of them are dodging the "real name" requirement and thinking they will not get caught. Maybe they're right, maybe not. But in the mean time, anyone not on Facebook - like me - is totally isolated. Geographic isolation is bad enough, but to be cut off so completely - well, if they can't see how wrong that is, I'm not sure I want to associate with them any longer.
I already got a bad answer from the Baronial Seneschal - she caved to the "necessity" of Facebook and has become a missionary for it.
Next stop, Kingdom Seneschal, then Kingdom Ombudsman, then Board of Directors.
I may lose this fight, but it won't be for want of trying.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Thanks for the prognosis. ;-)
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
The Green Party is the same way
The problem is that if you have no money this is the cheapest communication channel around. But things are only cheap if you don’t know the hidden costs.
My response was to set up a fb account to read GP news. I haven’t used it since the election. I also opted out of every notification and it actually seems to work.
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
My experience is the same as yours, Ra.
But the buzz has it that people like us, who are repelled by Facebook, will be regarded as suspicious and antisocial. Big brother will put AIs in our places, who will learn from our friends how to act like us. Our creepy AIs will be helping others live their lives — wide open — as they complete their voluntary dossiers for the NSA. Heh. I'm big on privacy.
Americans are so inclined to believe and obey their authorities, who are extremely strict and harsh toward them. But then, it is such a young country with only a very brief history. Most of the world has been kicking around their neighborhoods for 50,000 years or so. They evolved in one place for so long that they formed physically distinct races and shared instincts. They've seen a lot. But I digress….
I'll guarantee you, Pluto
it will be a challenge for any AI to try and act like me. Or maybe not. I think I'm unusual, but I'm probably pretty predictable, sigh.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
I regret that I joined
Once sucked into the vortex, you can deny it, but it still has you in its grasp.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Do you really?
Regret it? I do imagine that you are unique among friends and family, vibrating at a clearer frequency. I think Fb can leave such people feeling very exposed.
From the department of few words.
Fuck Facebook
I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and procrastinate all at the same time.
Fuck FB.....woulda been fewer? -g-
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Don't forget false flags that were shut down.
JFK Files Expose CIA Plot to Stage Miami Bombings and Blame Fidel Castro
https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/JFK-Files-Expose-CIA-Plot-to-Stag...
Never been on FB nor Twitter. However, follow several pundits like Glenn Greenwald via internet interface.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald
Just can't respond.