_{I am cross-posting my comment to kos' diary here,because I've already received 1 HR Flag, and who knows how many are going to follow.}

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Number One. The Primary is over when the Primary is over.

Not when you say so. The polls mean nothing.

Voting is voting. Polls are not voting.

You say you support the Democratic Party.

Then support the Democratic Party Primary.

The Democratic Party chooses its candidate at the Convention, unless one of the two candidates concedes earlier. Hillary is under investigation by the FBI and the publicly disclosed findings from that investigation already suggest that there is sufficient evidence to indict Hillary Clinton on criminal charges. I am not going to debate this with you. This is a well-known fact. If you want to live in some delusional bubble. The only person who will believe you is you. But what this means is, that up until the moment she is nominated at the convention, or until Bernie Sanders concedes, this primary is not over.

I DON’T CARE WHAT THE DELEGATE COUNT IS.

SHE MIGHT BE INDICTED. DO YOU GET THAT?

ARE YOU LIVING IN DENIAL-LAND?

Do you remember 8 years ago when Hillary justified her staying in due to the possibility of another Kennedy incident? Well, yeah, that was so wrong, but this isn’t that, this is the FBI indicting her. SO, if you deem it over, when we know it is not over. The Bernie Sanders community will gather elsewhere online to continue working on the primary. I assure you, there will be a mass exodus.

Mark my words.

If you deem the Primary over prior to the Primary being over, you are betraying our democracy and YOU will be deemed as blatantly working with Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the DNC to RIG the election on behalf of their financial sponsors who want Hillary Clinton elected at all costs. You can play all of your fuzzy math games and convince yourself that you are not, but you are.

AND WE KNOW IT.

This is your site, you get to make the rules, but this was supposed to be a site, to help elect more / better Democrats, i.e., to help the Democratic Party, and while you do get to dictate the rules and censorship on your site, the moment you betray the ideals of the founding fathers and the heart and soul of the Democratic Party, then you brand yourself as anti-democratic.

You have condoned rampant roaming posses of Hillary supporters who harass and bully people with HR Flags to censor and ban people who challenge their narrative by simply telling the truth, a truth that happens to expose Hillary’s lies and hypocrisy, which you (and they) deceitfully mischaracterize as “shitting” on the candidate. Please. We both know that it is VETTING THE CANDIDATE.

You don’t want me to use the word “oligarchy” even though my candidate, Bernie Sanders, is using the word “oligarchy?”

Seriously? And think that will fly? You think that is in any way whatsoever acceptable? Okay, let me spell it out…

SCENARIO #ONE:

Hillary gets money from the Wall Street Firms, (aka, Large Financial Corporations/Institutions) and these Wall Street Firms don’t want to be broken up, because it allows them a nice safe cushion of the US GOV who will bail them out if they crash, again, and the Too Big To Fail or Glass Steagall Act legislation will break them up. This is also known as “maintaining the status quo.” And, the Wall Street Financial Firms are also known as the “oligarchy” because their money has controlled the US Government for quite a long time.

SO, Hillary does not support Too Big To Fail or Glass Steagall Act legislation.

AND, in order to sell this position, Hillary lies about the importance of Too Big To Fail or Glass Steagall Act legislation.

SCENARIO #TWO:

SINGLE-PAYER… etc etc etc. I am sure you know the rest….

These, and other examples like these, illustrate the fundamental distinction between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. And yet, you and your “Clintonista” friends want to CENSOR that discussion, which happens to the be the CENTERPIECE OF BERNIE’S CAMPAIGN.

Truth is, March 15th means nothing, because the Hillary supporters have been roaming in posses and bullying and harassing people with HR Flags to censor and ban people for 6 months and you and your site admin have been condoning this rampant ant-democratic behavior. I have written this to site admin 6 or 7 times over the past 3 months, in private message, in comment, in diary, and in Helpdesk ticket, and I have been ignored EVERY SINGLE TIME. And here you go and give TRIX a token SLAP on the wrist and you think you are gonna fool us? Please. Do you think we are stupid? Every single Bernie supporter here knows what you are doing. Hell, you showed your colors when you let Hillary supporters rampantly call people the slur “BernieBros” and then you even have the nerve to let them get away with having a slur like “BernieBros” in a diary title and let it sit on the rec list for 8 hours??? I posted a polite courteous comment in that diary gently asking them to remove the slur from the diary title and they were rude and insulting. You embolden them and you know it, and your March 15th rule is meant to embolden them even more. AND EVERY ONE KNOWS IT. And we also know that you changed the HR FLAG with DK5 on purpose to enable the Clinton supports to wantonly throw HR FLAGS without anyone knowing who was doing it. You have embarked upon a methodical systematic strategy to censor free speech to shut down people from telling the truth about Hillary Clinton. There is nothing two-sided or even-handed about your ruling, just like there has not been a two-sided even-handed site admin moderation, just like there has not been a two-sided even-handed Front Pager diaries.

WHO ARE YOU KIDDING?

WTF?

Do you honestly think you are gonna shut down the passionate enthusiasm for the first truly honest politician we have had in 50 years?

Please.

Do you have any idea what people are saying about DailyKos on Facebook these days? It ain’t pretty. You have lost your street cred, kos. And this token olive branch gesture is meaningless when we all know that Hillary is still a liar. She still flip flops. She still supports the agenda of the Large Financial Institutions, which is to maintain the status quo, which means, not supporting TBTF & G-S.

Yes, “Oligarchy.” Bernie talks about “Oligarchy.”

You got a problem with that?

Do you wanna tell Bernie Sanders to stop using the word “Oligarchy?”

Get real!

There is a populist political revolution occurring in this nation and you are supporting THE OTHER CANDIDATE. People, like myself, came to this site because we admired what you were saying, back in the day. I read quotes from you about Hillary from 2008 and I honestly don’t know what to make of your positions today. What happened to you?

A prominent Front Pager posts a swiftboat astroturf diary to portray Bernie Sanders as a racist and you let her get away with it? You say nothing? You didn’t terminate her employment that day? WTF? Clearly this means that you condone it. You have a lot of nerve telling people not to shit on candidates, NOW, today, after you let people get away with the comments and diaries that have been posted here, with outright lies and slander and slurs. Hell, you wrote your own swiftboat hit piece on THE HILL, so it’s not like you haven’t shown your colors outright. And then Hillary supporters like to claim that FACT BASED assessments of Hillary are “trash” or “shitting” on her. TOTAL BS.

Sorry, kos. You can fool yourself into thinking that you diary today makes your rule “even-handed” but we all know it’s not.

And all the while, the FBI Criminal Investigation involving 150+ FBI Agents, 22 TOP SECRET EMAILS, 2000 CLASSIFIED EMAILS, 104 CLASSIFIED ORIGINATING/ WRITTEN BY HILLARY HERSELF, PLUS 30,000 DELETED BUT SOME RECOVERED EMAILS, INVESTIGATING CLINTON FOUNDATION FINANCIALS, IMMUNITY GRANTED TO HILLARY EX-STAFFER (that Armando swears is not a Criminal Investigation, even though everyone knows it really is, so who’s he kidding, they just don’t want to say it yet, because once they do, all hell will break loose, and the FBI/DOJ want to make sure they have their ducks in a row before they pull that trigger) inches closer and closer to dropping a nuclear bomb on Hillary ending her political career, a nuclear bomb of her own making. You did say this is a reality based community, right? And if they don’t indict her, you don’t think that will blow up, too? Probably worse.

And you think Hillary can unify and rally the Democratic Party after the BS that DWS/DNC pulled?

After the underhanded politics that Hillary herself pulled?

Please, kos. Please. Wake up and smell the coffee.

You are living in a fantasy land.

Hillary is a lost cause. I don’t care what your math says.

She. Can’t. Rally. The. Base.

You keep saying, “She’s winning. She’s winning.”

I am not here to “relitigate” the Primary. No.

I am here to tell you that the BASE was alienate when DWS/DNC rigged the Debates in Hillary’s favor to give Bernie a fraction of the exposure that he would have gotten in 2008.

So, here’s the lesson: When you rig the Democratic Party’s Primary election to get a lying flip flopping candidate who is openly supporting the agenda of the Oligarchy to be the nominee, then that nominee cannot rally the Democratic Party’s base.

It really is that simple.

As I said, Hillary is a lost cause.

And if your polls don’t show you that, then this means that whomever crafted your polls is not asking the right questions of the right cross section of the Democratic Party.

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political22 sensetolisten Mar 08 · 11:20:13 PM
I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggesting this is probably the type of stuff that Kos is talking about not doing after March 15th.

Yes, I know. And THAT is my point.

Thank you, Captain Obvious… . . . . . . . . .

#DEMOCRACYnotCENSORSHIP

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PS...
Oh yeah, and about those polls:
Huzzah! Bernie beats the pollsters by 20%+

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