(She’s really out of control!): CLINTON COMPARES RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN ELECTION TO 9/11

I fully realise that I am constantly pitching fits about the Clinton Creature, but the reason I do that is because I think she’s dangerous and that she’s pushing to start some really big trouble that the plebs will end up paying for. Of course.

It’s the classes that don’t get the tax cuts that ‘pay’ for these wars of ours in both blood and treasure. The people to whom the Clinton Creature panders make money off war and they and theirs NEVER have to hit the front line. And like it or not, there are enough fools that believe her lies that she and her supporters have the power, as evidenced by this RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA!!! bullshit, to completely tie up up the government in a fake scandal, which is costing the government big bucks, and is greasing the skids for the neocon/neo-liberal agenda of never-ending war and MIC/Wall Street dominance.

CLINTON COMPARES RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN ELECTION TO 9/11

Hillary Clinton has compared Russia’s alleged interference in the 2016 presidential election and her subsequent loss to Donald Trump with the devastation of 9/11.

“We have really well-respected security and intelligence veterans saying this was a kind of cyber 9/11 in the sense that it was a direct attack to American institutions,” Clinton said, referring to the terrorist attack orchestrated by al-Qaeda that killed nearly 3,000 people in New York City, Washington and outside of Shanksville, Pennsylvania.


Former US Secretary of State Hilary Clinton appears on stage following her talk at the London Literary Festival at The Royal Festival Hall on October 15, 2017 in London, England.
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Clinton warned the threat to American democracy coming from Russia is not over and that the new cold war will be partially carried out through cyber attacks. “The Russians aren’t done, this is an ongoing threat and that is one of the reasons why I wrote the book and one of the reasons I’m talking about it," she said.

http://www.newsweek.com/clinton-compares-russian-interference-election-9...

This horrendous creature has absolutely no conscience. And she’s still the ‘face’ of the DNC. They keep backing up her lies. So there are no reasons (in my opinion) that would justify sending one dime or supporting any of ‘their’ candidates. Trump is the orange tiny-fingered shit gibbon in the proverbial china shop, Clinton is basically a walking disaster that is unsafe for human health.

EDIT: nei/neo

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the Newsweek article you quoted used the word "alleged."

Hillary Clinton has compared Russia’s alleged interference in the 2016 presidential election and her subsequent loss to Donald Trump with the devastation of 9/11.

I'm seeing that more and more often, a few qualifiers here and there, and I think that means even the media are sensing there's no there there.

My husband and I went to see the movie, Mark Felt: The Man Who Brought Down the White House yesterday, and it was interesting and compelling. It made the point that it took a lot of sustained courage and effort, one piece of information at a time, to bring down Nixon. And the Deep State of course was not brought down then, nor even after Church's COINTELPRO hearings. But now we have the internet, and now we can look things up and see the connections. We're not going to give up on this.

She can try to make Putin the equivalent of the Saudi attack on 9/11, but it's not going to work.

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nor will it work at a number of other better-informed sites. But corporate media (WaPo, NYT, CNN, etc.) continue to spout the Party line as if there were no other. We've a long ways to go yet.

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... But now we have the internet, and now we can look things up and see the connections. ...

At this point, mostly, but less well all of the time...

Last year:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/obama-administration-to-privatize-internet-...

Obama Administration to Privatize Internet Governance on Oct. 1
Transfer of domain-name authority from U.S. likely to spark debate in Congress
By John D. McKinnon
Updated Aug. 16, 2016 5:25 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON—The Obama administration said Tuesday it will formally shift authority for much of the internet’s governance to a nonprofit multi-stakeholder entity on Oct. 1, a move likely to spark a backlash from parts of Congress. ...

This year:

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/07/27/goog-j27.html

New Google algorithm restricts access to left-wing, progressive web sites
By Andre Damon and Niles Niemuth
27 July 2017

In the three months since Internet monopoly Google announced plans to keep users from accessing “fake news,” the global traffic rankings of a broad range of left-wing, progressive, anti-war and democratic rights organizations have fallen significantly.

On April 25, 2017, Google announced that it had implemented changes to its search service to make it harder for users to access what it called “low-quality” information such as “conspiracy theories” and “fake news.”

The company said in a blog post that the central purpose of the change to its search algorithm was to give the search giant greater control in identifying content deemed objectionable by its guidelines. It declared that it had “improved our evaluation methods and made algorithmic updates” in order “to surface more authoritative content.”

Google continued, “Last month, we updated our Search Quality Rater Guidelines to provide more detailed examples of low-quality webpages for raters to appropriately flag.” These moderators are instructed to flag “upsetting user experiences,” including pages that present “conspiracy theories,” unless “the query clearly indicates the user is seeking an alternative viewpoint.” ...

...By flagging content in such a way that it does not appear in the first one or two pages of a search result, Google is able to effectively block users’ access to it. Given the fact that vast amounts of web traffic are influenced by search results, Google is able to effectively conceal or bury content to which it objects through the manipulation of search rankings.

Just last month, the European Commission fined the company $2.7 billion for manipulating search results to inappropriately direct users to its own comparison shopping service, Google Shopping. Now, it appears that Google is using these criminal methods to block users from accessing political viewpoints the company deems objectionable. ...

The internet might be made just as irrelevant as corporate media news at any time now, so we'll have to cherish what we have as it disappears, I suppose, without counting on it.

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A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Russian hacking was just like the Alamo, again.

The car rental company, not the fort.

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@gjohnsit  
When it comes to car rental brands, that sounds more like “Budget.”

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What happens if you don't keep your unfiltered poison chilled? Does it spoil? Cause I've heard that spoiled poison is nasty.

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That label...

What happens if you don't keep your unfiltered poison chilled? Does it spoil? Cause I've heard that spoiled poison is nasty.

It reverts to a potion of extra healing......

Wink

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@thanatokephaloides

Does the healing work on mental disorders and injuries to the 'human' part of the brain?

If so, we could maybe colour it like goat's blood and offer quantities of it round on a salver at various PTB social functions/invasion and attack planning sessions. They'd start off gloating over the prospective kills and advance-divvying up the loot they planned to steal, and wind up providing National Health Care and a living wage in their own country instead.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

about constantly pitching fits about the Clinton Creature. Her essentially is the democratic party as it stands. She's not some aberration like Trump, she's the perfect representative of 30 years of democratic strategy and policies.

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Agree, and also, one always needs to keep tabs on neo-con crazy-people with money and influence.

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@Snode "That Money's Already Been Spent" - Clinton Foundation Won't Return $250,000 Weinstein Donation

After the Clinton Foundation’s chief spokesman suggested as much in a tweet on Saturday, the Clinton Foundation has confirmed that it will not be returning a $250,000 donation from disgraced Hollywood studio chief Harvey Weinstein, Fox news reported.
OCT 16, 2017 7:00 PM
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“We now live in a nation where doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the press destroys information, religion destroys morals, and our banks destroy the economy.”

― Chris Hedges

@ggersh @ggersh

... "That Money's Already Been Spent" - Clinton Foundation Won't Return $250,000 Weinstein Donation

After the Clinton Foundation’s chief spokesman suggested as much in a tweet on Saturday, the Clinton Foundation has confirmed that it will not be returning a $250,000 donation from disgraced Hollywood studio chief Harvey Weinstein, Fox news reported.
OCT 16, 2017 7:00 PM

It may have been dirty money once, but Her has many experts on money-laundering and Knows How To Get Things Done.

Edited because I failed to notice that the block-quotes hadn't taken. Sigh...

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of right wing attacks that they just made up against her and Bill so that they looked like they played fast and lose with the rules, not that they had ever done anything wrong?

I'll be here all night. And the next day, weeks, months, years and centuries

Preved

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Someone should put together a new cookbook with this in mind.

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Hey, Her's still got the Ace card of 9/11 to pull out and wave like a little flag. Remember that first debate in the Dem nom-nom-nom selection process, where Her pointed out how much good Her'd done for Wall St., getting money from President Bush for rebuilding after 9/11.

http://www.politico.com/states/new-york/city-hall/story/2016/04/on-state...

On Staten Island, Clinton thanks Bush for 9/11 aid

By AZI PAYBARAH

04/17/2016 10:00 PM EDT

...The appearance on Staten Island comes as Clinton seeks to project a broader message of electability in November, and prove she can attract white, blue-collar voters. Hours before Clinton’s rally here, Republican frontrunner Donald Trump was six miles away at the Hilton Garden hotel, also on Staten Island, for a speech at the county’s annual luncheon.

Clinton praised Bush for delivering $20 billion in federal aid to New York after the terrorists attacks on September 11. She said that was the dollar figure she requested from the White House, when she was a New York senator. ...

..."I have no time for people who are partisan for the sake of being partisan," she added.

Clinton has not exactly made a habit of praising Bush or promising not to raise taxes on the campaign trail. When Senator Chuck Schumer introduced her at a rally at the Apollo in Harlem recently, the crowd booed when he said Bush tried to privatize Social Security, as Clinton smiled and nodded.

Well, of course, there was this, showing that there was nothing wrong with Republican policy, since the Clinton Dems approved and had tried to initiate this privatization of SS earlier, only Bill got his Dick stuck between a cigar and a hot face hard place:

https://www.counterpunch.org/2004/10/30/how-monica-lewinsky-saved-social...

October 30, 2004
How Monica Lewinsky Saved Social Security

by Robin Blackburn

...Late in 1998 or in the State of the Union message of 1999 a solemn Clinton would have told Congress and the nation that, just like welfare, Social Security was near-broke, had to be “reformed” and its immense pool of capital tendered in part to the mutual funds industry. The itinerary mapped out for Clinton by the Democratic Leadership Committee would have been complete.

It was a desperately close run thing. On the account of members of Clinton’s secret White House team, mandated to map out the privatization path for Social Security, they had got as far down the road as fine-tuning the account numbers for Social Security accounts now released to the captious mercies of Wall Street. But in 1998 the Lewinsky scandal burst upon the President, and as the months sped by and impeachment swelled from a remote specter to a looming reality, Clinton’s polls told him that his only hope was to nourish the widespread popular dislike for the hoity-toity elites intoning Clinton’s death warrant.

In an instant Clinton spun on the dime and became Social Security’s mighty champion, coining the slogan “Save Social Security First”. ...

...Participants at the Harvard conference conceded that severe technical problems beset efforts to introduce commercial practices. The existing program has low administration costs whereas running tens of millions of small investment accounts would be expensive. The secret White House team sought to finesse the problem by pooling individual funds and stripping down the element of choice or customer service. But Summers was unhappy: as one Team member now recalls it, “Deputy Secretary Summers was fond of saying that we had to guard against the risk of setting up the Post Office when people were used to dealing with Federal Express”. And pooled funds were also to be avoided because they would risk government control of business. ...

And I wonder if that $20 billion all went to her constituents, Wall St.? What else needed to be rebuilt in New York, other than the repair of some damage to presumably insured buildings around the heavily insured buildings brought down on 9/11? (I haven't looked into other damage requiring rebuilding, although there was certainly a lot of deadly dust from the vaporization of the Twin Towers, but those in the know didn't seem to be worried at all about that or the health damage sustained by those exposed.)

So, she paid off with a vote...

http://observer.com/2016/03/the-troubling-friendship-of-hillary-clinton-...

The Troubling Friendship of Hillary Clinton and George W. Bush
Both families have circumvented what democracy is supposed to prevent
By Michael Sainato • 03/17/16

...In the most recent Democratic town hall on MSNBC, Ms. Clinton told Chris Matthews her vote for the Iraq War—a manifestation of the Bush administration—was born from her agreement with George W. Bush to secure $20 billion toward rebuilding New York City after 9/11.

“I’m sitting there in the Oval Office, and Bush says to me, ‘What do you need?’ And I said, ‘I need $20 billion to rebuild, you know, New York,’ and he said, ‘You got it.’ And he was good to his word,” Ms. Clinton said. “Literally, that same day, I get back to the Capitol, and the Republicans are trying to take that money away. We kept calling the White House, Bush kept saying, ‘I gave them my word, I’m going to stick with it.’ So, you know, I had a different set of experiences.”

Ms. Clinton’s response was a tangent in defense of her vote for the Iraq War, which Senator Bernie Sanders—who voted against the war—often cites to highlight her poor judgment in foreign policy affairs. ...

but I am curious as to what that $20 billion was spent on, how much went into helping affected New Yorkers and cleaning/repairing public property and how much went to help out Wall St. millionaires/billionaires who, one would think, had insurance.

Plus, I find it hard to imagine that there wasn't profit for Her in there somewhere, going by Her money-grubbing record of betrayal for cash.

(Edit: especially because it's all "I asked for, and got, the money"; Bush said "I gave them my word about the money.")

Does anyone know anything about this?

Kitty has been nobly warming a portion of my side of the bed and I have a book over there, calling me...

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

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and much of the MIC, that Russia is largely to blame for her failure to win the US presidency. Listen to her! Anyone and anything that opposed her rightful coronation must have been working for the Russians. It's the only thing that makes sense. And if you don't believe it, then you are probably working for the Russians too -- even if you don't know it. Those Russians have always been a sneaky and evil lot, as is very well known here in the Land of the Free.

Just like that evil mastermind Julian Assange - clearly a Russian agent if there ever was one:

Clinton claimed WikiLeaks' actions were motivated by Assange's personal dislike of her...

I had a lot of history with him because I was secretary of state when WikiLeaks published a lot of very sensitive information from our State Department and our Defence Department,' she said...

'If he's such a martyr of free speech, why doesn't WikilLaks ever publish anything coming out of Russia? You don't see damaging, negative information coming out about the Kremlin on Wikileaks,' Clinton added...

Well, so that settles it. HRC being the stalwart champion of Truth, Justice, and the American Way that she is, how could any red-blooded patriot fail to heed her dire warnings? Russia is out to get us all, it's as clear as day. Russia will not be satisfied until the entire structure of American Democracy is laid to waste -- just like Hillary's campaign was.

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@native

she knows that if there was any solid proof that Russia did anything to interfere with the election, the NSA and all those intelligence agencies she is fond of misquoting would have released it.
If she does actually believe this, then she should direct her anger at Obama for not doing anything to stop it. He said that he was aware of this, but he wanted McConnell to make a joint statement about. McConnell refused so Obama did nothing.
However, before he left office he said that there was no evidence that this happened. And as Linda stated in her comment, all we are seeing are the words alleged and the other words in that context.

Time after time there will be a headline that states: Russia hacked the Vermont energy grid, Russia hacked 21 states voting rolls, ect. But inside the article there is no definitive proof of anything. This is the well known play that makes propaganda work. Someone makes an accusation but then offers no proof that it happened. However, people read the headlines and skip over the words such as alleged.

My opinion is that Hillary is either just stringing her bots along and keeping the tabloid diaries on ToP on the wreck list, or she is spreading this propaganda so that the New McCarthyism makes people more acceptable for a war with Russia. Obama spread lies about Russia all during his tenure. He accused Russia of being aggressive in Ukraine, Syria and other countries when it was actually his administration doing these things.

Unfortunately the propaganda is working on the ToPbots. Every day there is a new accusation about Russian interference. Yesterday I learned that Facebook has destroyed democracy in America forever. And ever Amen. Good grief.
Another thing I have noticed while trolling ToP is that there is a flood of new users with one or two comments and their usernames have numbers in them. Frank1234 or Thelma4321. These types of names flood ToP in 2016 when Correct the Record was paying people to spread pro Hillary messages or combat anti Hillary comments.

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@snoopydawg

Back then, even with the admission that David Brock was paying $1M + for trolls to "correct the record", I was admonished multiple times for stating, "this "person" has been her for 3 days and has 1,200 comments. Don't you think that is strange? "

I was threatened with banning for "trolling" new "users" and advised to stfu and pronto.

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@EdMass

their usernames is to help keep track of their comments. I didn't finish my thoughts. The reasons for the new numbered members is because she's using them to do the same things they did during the elections.
She might be using them to promote her new organization, which Obama belongs to, that is possibly being used for her next run for president. Or to keep the party from moving too far to the left.

Can anyone think of another explanation for why she would be paying people again?

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@snoopydawg
or if she even believes anything. Obviously she is pretending to believe the anti-Russia hype, but probably only because she thinks it's politically advantageous for her to do so. HRC has the moral compass of a snake... nothing she says can be taken at face value, and there is always some sort of covert agenda behind her words. It seems to me that Hillary craves power and personal aggrandizement above all else, and that for her, politics serves merely as the sea in which she must swim, in order to attain them.

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@native

HRC has the moral compass of a snake... nothing she says can be taken at face value, and there is always some sort of covert agenda behind her words. It seems to me that Hillary craves power and personal aggrandizement above all else, and that for her, politics serves merely as the sea in which she must swim, in order to attain them.
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@native

she could just be getting high from seeing HerBots making fools of themselves by coming up with more stupid reasons for why she lost.
On my daily trolling, I can only laugh at the new reasons (or reality?) for why she lost.
I'd be laughing my ass off too seeing how far people will go to explain this.
Or seeing them get so excited about everything that Trump or Mueller does or says.
The Facebook destroying democracy forevah has got to be one of the dumbest things I've heard.
How many people don't even have a Facebook account and because of this, they never even saw one of the ads that Russia bought for $3,000? Aurg!

After I checked my mojo today, I clicked on a member of this site user's name and read her diary from before the ides of March.
This was on Hillary saying that she would focus on helping the poorer people who were on SS, that she might be open to some cuts and that she was open to raising the retirement age for some jobs.
This seems pretty straightforward, right?
Nope. This was one of the biggest pie fights I've seen. People said she was taken out of context, or they'd find a different article where she said she would defend SS. Big deal if it was from 2007 Smile

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@native

HRC has the moral compass of a snake... nothing she says can be taken at face value, and there is always some sort of covert agenda behind her words.

You do realize that this is an insult to honest serpents, right?

Most snakes can be taken at face value; serpents usually don't harbor covert agendas!

I'm surprised that Alligator Ed, a relative of serpents, hasn't chimed in on this one!

Smile

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@thanatokephaloides  

http://terrasol.home.igc.org/rufus.htm

https://www.worldcat.org/title/high-flyin-funnies-comix-stories-with-ruf...

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@snoopydawg
RUSSIA! RUSSIA! bull puckey is all about.

“...that the New McCarthyism makes people more acceptable for a war with Russia.”

BRICS ensures that the western bigwigs and big shots of today are tomorrow’s losers in a second rate economy. Out ‘betters’ would rather kill every single one of us plebs rather than become second class citizens in a new world order.

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and why this propaganda won't fade away. I don't remember the PTB ever putting this much energy into trying to get people to be their make believe story and I'm so amazed at how many have bought it.
If Trump had lost and was making these allegations, do you think that the HerBots would be buying this? Hell no.

ETA thanks everyone for overlooking my spelling and grammar errors that make sound like a hickory.

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American Horror story is about the election and after Trump won. The main character is having panic attacks which is one part of the story and the other part is about maniac clowns taking advantage of her fears.

Madam Secretary has also joined in. Last week it was about fake news and the second one is about "..................
RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA!

I guess next week will be about some famous person being disclosed as a sexual predator and the losing candidate will be everywhere and saying that he is just like the sitting president.

Yes, I'm a tv junky. At least I'm not paying for it.

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Someone should put together a new cookbook with this in mind.

@snoopydawg

Sorry, I'm afraid that we seem typically to be too dazzled by your skill, knowledge and compassionate wisdom to notice whether or not there are any typos or creative spellings making no difference to the readability or solid good sense in your posts.

You'll have to try harder to point them out.

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I edited my previous comment because of grammar errors and then wrote this:

thanks everyone for overlooking my spelling and grammar errors that make sound like a hickory.

That makes ME sound like a hick!
Blush

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@snoopydawg
Autocorrect is NOT necessarily your friend.

Plus who worries about typos? I operate from an iPhone. I’d be willing to bet I hold the title of ‘Typo Queen of C99%’.

Hell half the time I can’t even see what i’ve typed hence my many cryptic statements. Sometimes I even confuse myself.

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S'alright, we knew what you meant. We haz skillz like that. And some of us do way worse than that on a regular basis, although nobody else here seems to do so often enough to make me feel better!

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@Amanda Matthews Forgive me if I'm late to the game on this one -- just catching up on all of the comments now -- but it's also projection.

FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow

Of course, I have little faith anything will actually come of this PROVEN Russian collusion.

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@snoopydawg
Did he tire of us or did he get banned for repeatedly trying to blame us all for Trump?

I stopped interacting with him when I figured out what he was doing (campaigning for Her 2020 run), and asked how much he was being paid.

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@Deja
Or here? If here, then I didn't pay attention to it.
I know who you mean. I tried to ignore him, but when he downplayed my comment I lost it.
This site was polite at first, but his ToP-tude was just too much.
Keep your eye on the Creature for us.
I got a kick out of her throwing stones at Trump. Sheesh, she wouldn't know irony if it was sitting next to her.

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@snoopydawg
Probably, and maybe with a different user ID. I'll let you go look lol Wink

Joined 9/28. Has not commented in a while. JtC might have quietly shown him the door.

Someone else with a female name and numbers joined just before, but I didn't note the date (and she has no comments).

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Well, Her might look up the going market rate before disregarding irony as unsaleable.

Looks like Her will never get over leaving the White House so terribly broke that they had to actually borrow money just to buy some houses...

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@snoopydawg @snoopydawg
was at least honest. He admitted up front that he was here to promote the Dims and was fine with the Clinton Creature running again. But in this instance, honest doesn’t translate into smart. This is the LAST place to come and try to convince people to willingly slip their heads back through the Dimocritic noose. Bastids aten’t getting my help in trying to start 50 different wars to prop up the 1% ever again. To run Clinton again was an insult to the true liberals and progressives in this country. For her to choose that corporatist tool Kaine was just spitting on us to ensure we got the message. And that’s why i’m here. Just like the rest of us.

Poor Craig234. He sure didn’t last long. If he had just tried to converse rather than convert, he may have come to understand this place and the futility of coming here and pushing Al From/Bill Clinton’s Turd Way Koch-Brothers-financed Neo-liberal ‘New’ Democratic Party bullshit.

EDIT: fixed ‘didn’t last’ from something very strange.

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Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

@Deja

Maybe his head exploded? HillShills seem to be at high risk for that, when repeatedly faced with documented facts answering their current talking points.

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A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

@snoopydawg Yup, saw that one dairy the FB (and Russians really) destroyed American democracy. Here I was thinking that corporate lobbyists, big Pharma, oil companies, for profit hospitals and insurance companies, MIC, etc. were the ones subverting democracy. When I do write something and get a response, nearly all are at various levels accusing me of being a Russian troll or offering up bizarre and fantastic counter claims.

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@MrWebster

What democracy?

This is their go to responses for anyone who doesn't follow along with their narrative.

Obama is doing the same things that Bush did:
You are a racist!

Hillary is going to continue doing the same things that Bush and Obama did:
You are a racist a sexist and a misogynist!

There is no evidence that Russia interfered with the election:
You are a racist, sexist, misogynistic Putin lover. Go away troll and go back to the caucus99percent website!

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I’m betting billionaires taste like chicken. More research required…
Someone should put together a new cookbook with this in mind.

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@snoopydawg

“Go away troll and go back to the caucus99percent website but still cough up your mandatory donations and vote like we tell you to vote”.

Jerks and jackasses pretty much covers it.

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Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

@Amanda Matthews

...Jerks and jackasses pretty much covers it.

Pretty much, but it still needs some descriptive swears.

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@snoopydawg @snoopydawg

From TOP with numbers following his name who posted essays and comments here that fell along the lines that we weren't sufficiently focused on banding together under the Democratic umbrella to fight Das Pumpkinfuhrer with the likes of Kamala Harris as part of the democratic progressive solution we former Berners should support?

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a malignant narcissist but she escapes that while glaringly showing not only "tendencies" but the same damned disease.

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@lizzyh7
of oligarchs one chooses to kneel before. Shall we kiss the rings of the Kochs and the Mercers, or shall we pay homage to the Pritzgers and George Soros?

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native

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@lizzyh7

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

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@k9disc

2016: Narcissistic Liar vs Lying Narcissist.

Horrid taste! More filling!

Wink

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"Some members of the government are now investigating opioid pain killers but they are investigating the wrong thing. Despair-masking drugs are not the problem. Despair is."
-- featheredsprite

Not Henry Kissinger's picture

Blaming a non-complicit foreign nation for a domestic disaster you caused yourself?

Hillary's 9/11 analogy is more apt than Her realizes.

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I am waiting for you, Vizzini.

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@Not Henry Kissinger
that couldn't believe Her actually had to campaign for the Office. How Dare they make me campaign for what's rightfully mine!

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the little things you can do often are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. All about building progressive media. (-1.9) On Twitter @winkradio.

@Not Henry Kissinger Atul Gawande in the 10/2/17 New Yorker https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/02/is-health-care-a-right had an article "Is Health Care a Right?" and in the middle he had an observation obliquely touching on why the election went the way it did. He speaks of a teacher wanting to bring the best out in all her students, no matter what level they could reach.

" When she first started out as a teacher, she said, her most satisfying experiences came from working with eager, talented kids who were hungry for her help in preparing them for a path to college and success. But she soon realized that her class, like America as a whole, would see fewer than half of its students earn a bachelor’s degree. Her job was therefore to try to help all of her students reach their potential—to contribute in their own way and to pursue happiness on their own terms.

But, she said, by eighth grade profound divisions had already been cemented. The honors kids—the Hillary Clintons and Mitt Romneys of the school—sat at the top of the meritocratic heap, getting attention and encouragement. The kids with the greatest needs had special-education support. But, across America, the large mass of kids in the middle—the ones without money, book smarts, or athletic prowess—were outsiders in their own schools. Few others cared about what they felt or believed or experienced. They were the unspecial and unpromising, looked down upon by and almost completely separated from the college-bound crowd. Life was already understood to be a game of winners and losers; they were the designated losers, and they resented it. The most consistent message these students had received was that their lives were of less value than others’. Is it so surprising that some of them find satisfaction in a politics that says, essentially, Screw ’em all?"

Not too much different from the democratic, self defined meritocratic party.

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@Snode

But, across America, the large mass of kids in the middle—the ones without money, book smarts, or athletic prowess—were outsiders in their own schools.

I know from personal experience that those who only possess the "book smarts" are also listed among the designated losers. Without money or athletic prowess, they (we) had no realistic shot at college, or were doomed to a life of failure laboring under student loan debts. In many cases, social pressures at school and at home resulted in less-than-optimal grades, especially when GPA-killing Physical Education enters into the mix. And, of course, the support we needed wasn't there; those who had a reasonable shot at a bachelor's degree -- those with money or athletic talent to cover the cash money bills -- were the ones who got it.

Bad

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"Some members of the government are now investigating opioid pain killers but they are investigating the wrong thing. Despair-masking drugs are not the problem. Despair is."
-- featheredsprite

@thanatokephaloides You're right, esp. today. I guess I took it to be SAT prep, elite internship, brass ring smart.

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@Snode The class, racial, and ethnic divisions by late grade school are also profound. I went form a small Catholic school where poor students like me were easy targets for violence by the nuns to a public school which where most of the students were black or Hispanic (The Catholic school shut down as the church shut down). There were three "tracks". The first was mostly white with a smattering of Hispanic and black students. The academic best. The middle track was working class whites and mostly Hispanics. The third was nearly all black students. I was tracked in the lowest category and for a good part of my public school education, I was the only white student in many classes. It was obvious to me being that young that nobody cared about the 2nd and 3rd tiers.

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@MrWebster

like the one you describe are, and were, unconstitutional and illegal and are a very important reason for the decline of this country into third world status.

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And Trump appreciates it:

Trump hopes Hillary runs again

And everybody else is screwed unless we all see through the terribly divisive noise and come together.

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Wink's picture

Or, as Jerry Garcia said, "I can't believe they left it up to us." Or something close. So, apparently "They" left it up to us, becuz ain't nobody else signing up to save what's left.
And, I really don't mind, except that I wish I was 20 years younger.

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@Wink  
http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/1109.html

Somebody has to do something, and it’s just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us.
—Jerry Garcia

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@lotlizard

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I have little doubt he is. However, I have little doubt she is, too.

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@HenryAWallace

She's delusional. Doctors are opining that Trump is nuts.
I have little doubt he is. However, I have little doubt she is, too.

As I said above, "horrid taste, more filling"!

Wink

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-- featheredsprite

@thanatokephaloides

That filling probably has mercury in it, too.

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We all know that spending 100k on FB ads is just like killing 3000 innocent people.

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My God can kick your Gods ass.

@Socialprogressive
Not to mention however many thousands suffering and dying prematurely in order to shift the evidence off, even out of the country, and to keep 'business as usual' running on Wall St. after 9/11, because, when it comes to anyone other than Those Who (are wealthy and powerful enough to) Matter, life is cheap, but money is all.

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@edg
Me thinks she hasn't run anywhere in a long time.

I caught a heel going down carpeted stairs at the symphony once. No coffee, no running, and no talking over my shoulder, but I had a date's arm to tighten my grip on, so I didn't fall.

But I would've fallen forward, not backwards like she said. Maybe she might have fallen back on her butt, and maybe broken a wrist if she fell backwards.

I think she stumped her toe. The more detailed a story, especially from someone like her, the less I believe it. Kinda reminds me of sniper fire.

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@Deja

How does one fall backwards when they are going forward? Did she do a twist while she was in the air? Seriously. This makes no sense unless she was going up stairs, but how does one break a toe doing that?
If she fell backwards, then wouldn't she have more easily broken her arm or wrist when she tried to catch herself?,
If it comes out that her story isn't true, that would start up the rumor mill. And just one more example of her lying for no reason. Bosnia sniper fire, anyone?

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I’m betting billionaires taste like chicken. More research required…
Someone should put together a new cookbook with this in mind.

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@snoopydawg

which is not precisely a toe, but a bone connecting to the toe-bones. That can hurt like a b*tch and disable you for weeks - I ought to know. Acourse, you have to have been doing something really stupid to break one of those - like getting off your bicycle and catching your foot in the brake cable. Hard to see how Her could do that in the high heels she hasn't worn in years, falling "backwards" on stairs, and all the other yadayada.

Edit: Instead of all the bullhockey, why didn't she just say "I missed a step and oopsie!" Or is that not Drahmatick enough for Her?

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@TheOtherMaven

Her's evidently trying to impress upon us all that the balance and other apparent health issues of concern so obvious during Her electoral fund-raiser cam-pain (in everyone's rump, head and ears) are no longer present, and far from continuing to fall over and hurt Herself (for a change from hurting others) and having to be helped up and down stairs, she's literally running around at home, routinely galloping downstairs in high heels, without spilling a drop of coffee. (I'd like to see Her do that in an Egg-and-Spoon race. Live-streamed, with no stand-ins.) Although she cannot change Her spots, where Her shows Her pathology.

Another sign that Her's running For Prezzie(s) again, or that the lunatic suggestion that Her should be Coronated appointed - like Her BFF Bush 2 - to simply replace Trump as President, is a thing among The Psychopaths That Be.

Be afraid. Be very afraid. (Better yet, be very disgusted and mock hell out of them at every opportunity, while counteracting the propaganda as best we can, while we can still speak freely.)

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@TheOtherMaven

She could have said she was running on stairs in high heels to dodge Bosnian sniper fire. All while carrying a cup of coffee and typing on her Blackberry.

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@Deja
bit about ‘falling backward’. When I fall backward I end up on my ass or back with my toes sticking up in the air. And trust me, I fall frequently. I just got over a fall where my face hit the pavement because I was walking a dog and having a bad day and my leg was dragging. (I’ve had 10 strokes, but 8 were mini strokes, only the last two really count. And I have 2 herniated disks in my neck.) When my leg drug and I didn’t clear that elevation in the sidewalk and my foot hit it and I pitched forward I STUBBED MY TOE. I almost drove it clear up into my ankle. I fell forward, not backward.

Her story makes no sense to me.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

@Amanda Matthews

Oh, man, I'm so sorry to hear about all that! I do hope that you manage to avoid future strokes and that your neck isn't as painful and disabling as it sounds!

Plus, you are obviously right, and when I was having so much trouble on stairs, in great part due to highly variable balance issues, I always held the banister and tried to keep my weight back a bit to try to avoid ski-ing down on my face, should I pitch forward and be unable to catch myself, because that is the way your body goes. And if you went over backward, what on Earth are your toes going to hit, shooting straight out into space, like Hillary's mind? Her was probably in a mad rage, relieving Herself by kicking some of 'the help', and the SS Her's notorious for abusing would probably have a lot of hard muscle...

It's all 'optics' and 'framing' and 'public and private' PR (lies) to such as Her, and reality is of no consequence because Her generally manages to avoid any for Her own actions.

As bizarrely appalling as Trump is, the idea of the Clintons renting out rooms in the White House for cash and prizes and 'Getting Things Done' in the global subjugation process with lots of horrible deaths to keep Herself happy and amused makes my gut drop.

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@Ellen North My money's on "shitfaced."

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@Eagles92
At first I thought she stumped her toe, but hearing The Other Maven describe the actual bone upthread, I think she went into a foot stomping fit and did it that way. Might have been shitfaced too.

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@Eagles92

Luckily, 'shitfaced' and 'in a mad rage' are not mutually exclusive, so I suspect that both of our bets are covered.

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@edg
where she praised their excellent healthcare system? You know, the same one she said we couldn't have here.

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My God can kick your Gods ass.

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@Socialprogressive

I guess she doesn't get 'irony'.

Quite why anyone would read her book or listen to her drone on/bullshit in the UK is beyond me.

And Swansea University named their law school after her. That's just odd??

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Gëzuar!!

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@Bollox Ref

They better hope their loss of reputation was worth it.

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@TheOtherMaven

We're not talking Oxbridge here. Fairly obscure Welsh university agrees to honorary degree/name change/Clinton grandstanding in exchange for.....?

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Gëzuar!!

@Bollox Ref

Maybe Her's buying a Chair in the Mythology Department, so it can be scientifically established that Her is the Destined Empress Of The Universe? Standard polluting industry practice, that sort of thing; have the 'scientific studies' made up just the way you want them and use them in a court with an ignorant/hungry judge, establish precedent - and Bob's God's your Uncle!

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@Bollox Ref  
… I imagine the Clintons could stash a horcrux with an obscure university for a lot less than that.

https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2015/09/11/with-donation-law-school-to-op...

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@lotlizard
kick in a few bucks to found a program of study? If we could scrounge up the bucks I wonder if Yale (or Harvard or Princeton or Bryn Mawr or Wellesley) would found a course of study on the disastrous effects Capitalism has had on the world? Or on the deleterious effect the Clinton’s and the DNC have had on life in America?

Just a thought.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

@edg @edg

Must be pretty skilled to fall backward on the stairs and break a toe. Unless she tripped on her claws, of course.

Edit: gawd, Her certainly makes my inner Dorothy Parker come out. Unfortunately, mine's only half as witty as the original...

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@Ellen North
Dorothy Parker come out.” What a great inner voice to have! I wonder what she would have said about the Clinton Creature?

The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity.

Résumé Razors pain you, Rivers are damp, Acids stain you, And drugs cause cramp. Guns aren't lawful, Nooses give, Gas smells awful. You might as well live.

You can lead a horticulture, but you can't make her think.

If you want to know what God thinks of money, just look at the people he gave it to.

Men seldom make passes At girls who wear glasses.

- Dorothy Parker

I think my generations Dorothy Parker was Molly Ivins ( more political but with a wit as razor sharp.)

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

@Amanda Matthews @Amanda Matthews

Oh, she'd have done such a fabulous taking-down of the Clintons - and been barred from journalism prior to expiating her sins by shooting herself several times in the back of the head or suffering one of those immediately murderous 'failed' robberies which have become so popular.

I have never thought of so many nasty things to say about anyone before Hillary's last failed (thank FSM!) Presidential attempt, being naturally prone more to making allowances for people - but Her is a corporate creature, rather than 'a people' and has so many nasty things to Her discredit that it's hard (impossible, really, considering the number of these and the unimaginable amount of damage done) to get them all out as a reminder of these evils, when Her keeps poking Her grasping claws into the public life Her seeks to further dismember for further increased personal profits and the sheer pleasure of causing pain.

Her isn't, unfortunately, the only one, but Her's the one thrusting Herself front to push the con job.

Edited to remove a space in the middle of (edit: a) word, and to add an explanatory passage I missed getting in there. And again because of a stray half-bracket I cleverly failed to notice until scrolling up to check for new comments... kitten-like, typos seem to conceal themselves and leap out at you unexpectedly, lol. Although at least the ones I've left at least don't seem to grow...

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"...The local reaction to Swansea University’s decision to give Clinton an honorary doctorate has been mixed to say the least.

Many voiced their opinions about aspects of Hillary Clinton’s record on Swansea University’s social media.

Hillary Clinton was booed and jeered among the cheers as she arrived today."

"After the former presidential candidate who has been touring the world with her new book What Happened outlining her reasons for losing the US election had darted back into the campus building, Kirsty Lloyd told The London Economic why she was protesting.

“She lost,” said the Welsh Biochemistry student. “Hillary Clinton cheated Bernie Saunders of his nomination. And all those drone strikes that killed women and children which are illegal contradict the reason she is being given a doctorate – which is for doing things for women and children all over the world. The main thing she’s done for women and children is kill them drone strikes.”

Yes this protester nailed it..."As Clinton turned away Kirsty Lloyd a Swansea student protesting the honour being conferred added: “only you could lose to Trump.”

I wandered into the comment section on Swansea's Facebook page, check them out many were brutally honest about her and their anger over naming anything after HER. I also posted a couple of links about Hillary on the FB page....https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/10/hillary-clinton-fracking_n_579...
https://www.juancole.com/2016/03/hillary-clinton-goes-full-neocon-at-aip...

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/world-news/watch-welsh-woman-tell...

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@aliasalias

Well, the first video started to play for a bit, then stopped and said it wasn't available. The second just became a white, blank space when I clicked on it; FB wouldn't let me see the University's FB page from either link, probably just because I'm not a member and don't even want to click on the 'not now' button; and the last link said 'sorry, that page does not exist'. Bit I can just imagine what the students would have had to say about the shameful prostitution of the heads of their institution to the Mad Bomber...

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@Ellen North @Ellen North
I actually only saw a pic gallery on the huffpo piece unless I got distracted lol (shocker they haven't taken that long piece down), and the 2nd link has a video I could only view by clicking the YouTube link in the video box.

Heading to 3rd link now.

Edit add: all 3 links, and videos I found within, worked.

Didn't you recently update your iOS? Might be that.

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@Deja
function is all messed up . EVERYTHING is in bold type. I don’t kniw what i’m doing anymore. And it wants to capitalize random words.

Dammit.

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Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

@Deja

Did just get switched over to Linux Mint - but I'm in Canada, where Harper had told Google that there were things which Canadians shouldn't be allowed to see, resulting in info in 'sensitive' areas which was once easily available becoming hard/impossible to find, even searching on Duck Duck Go, and according to an Open Media petition I recently signed, Bell Canada has been in the closed-door NAFTA talks arguing for mandatory site blockage and 'copyright law' criminalization of ordinary Internet behaviours...

The internet's functionality is globally going, going... speak out while we can.

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@Ellen North

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@Deja

Since that's in NAFTA negotiations, (and dunno but I'd think it unlikely that the company came up with this 'trade deal demand' on their own, as censorship is typically a political objective and demanding such censorship be in imposed 'trade deal domestic law' can only lose them business and money) I'd suspect that it quite probable that it's being introduced though a Canadian branch of a US company in order to apply it throughout North America.

They're heading that way anyhow, and TPTB can probably blame it on 'Canada's demands for it' in PR, since it's a 'trade deal', that meaning to those involved that citizen/human rights can be traded away by some transient politician/corporate negotiator in return for whatever bribe - or threat - may have been offered, which is so obviously not legally/constitionally possible that I find it hard to understand how people think it can be made so.

If the right to abuse us for profit can be given by public officials to hostile self-interests simply by terming such private agreements 'trade deals, they'd better have a bill of sale to show that they personally own all of the people in the country, as well as the country itself.

In which case, they're in deep doo-doo, since slavery is illegal and the people of any country have never agreed to sell their country, belonging not just to them as a Commons, but to the people living there in perpetuity, entailed for those to come and therefore the birthright-as-Commons of future citizens as well.

We do not elect slave-masters or rulers, we elect public servants, paid by the public to administer public business and public property in the public interest.

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As polls have indicated, the Russia conspiracy mania has not reached much of a concern level among everyday Americans. 9-11 had a direct impact on many Americans. Commercial flights grounded for days, people stuck all over the country, for many financial impacts, fanatical security measures, panic attacks all over the place, etc.

Compare this to the Russian hysteria. The Russian conspiracy bullshit is on the abstract side, getting too complicated, experience gap with Russians at any level, and its sorta the boy who cried wolf, and lack of direct impact on daily lives. Really, FB ads that swayed thousands of voters that apparently nobody noticed. There is nothing tangible about the conspiracies which is why Pokemon has been invoked to give a real sense of outrage.

The thing to fear is some deadly false flag operation and Clinton may be trying to set the narrative when this happens.

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@MrWebster @MrWebster
in the neocon and "national security" establishments would probably not be averse to some sort of false flag event, should another one occur.

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native

She told a BBC interviewer that the Brexit vote was down to a lot of "fake news" like the US elections, though she didn't seem to clearly state it was all due Russian meddling. It would seem to be strongly implied though.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/866658/Donald-Trump-news-Hillary-Clinto...

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@MrWebster @MichaelSF

Good grief, is there any part of the world that Russia doesn't have its tentacles in? This narrative is getting stupid and stupider every day.
But it's going to be fun when it crashes.
How is Rachel going to explain why she spent years duping her listeners? I hope that puts an end to her career.
Serves her right for betraying her values for money.
The Rachel from her air America days would be thoroughly disgusted with herself.

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I’m betting billionaires taste like chicken. More research required…
Someone should put together a new cookbook with this in mind.

@snoopydawg

Maybe they're holding her poodle hostage or something, as well as the piles of money thrown at her?

I used to like Maddow, which makes me extra-disgusted with her...

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@snoopydawg

How is Rachel going to explain why she spent years duping her listeners? I hope that puts an end to her career.
Serves her right for betraying her values for money.
The Rachel from her air America days would be thoroughly disgusted with herself.

Or even the Rachel from her Countdown with Keith Olbermann days, for that matter.

Of course, we had a far better flavor of Keith Olbermann available back then, too....

Diablo

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"Some members of the government are now investigating opioid pain killers but they are investigating the wrong thing. Despair-masking drugs are not the problem. Despair is."
-- featheredsprite

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@thanatokephaloides
and ask to borrow the tranq gun. Olberman’s become the ‘Left’s’ hysterical (as in ha-ha AND mental condition) Alex Jones.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

and now the Russian hacks are 9/11. Ooookay.

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"Bi-polar? I'm Bi-winning!!!" -- Charlie Sheen

@Dumbo

And we are the reality-based people the Bush admin said would be observing and making notes on the non-reality-based PTB trying to impose their own warped version of reality as real, like psychologists documenting an apparently unstoppable, military/corporate-State-backed psychopathic group of mass murderers, much like the US PTB we don't yet know how to deal with...

Too-appropriately playing in a mix right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y3nlI5oock&list=RD4y3nlI5oock#t=370

Muse - Unnatural Selection (lyrics)

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.