Now For a Bit of Beauty - Preliminary Fall Garden Report


Photos of the Fall Garden on 9/23/2017

Artichokes

The Basil Bale

Figs!

Lima Beans and Cabbage

Tomatoes

Zinneas and Willow Trees

Wild Area from Pooled Water

Butternut Squash

Italian Squash

Green Beans and Eggplant

Sweet Potatoes

Wild Area from Pooled Water

Logs at Base | Corn Squash Potatoes

New Pooled Water Area

New Pooled Water Area

This is not the full essay I hope to write eventually, but I figured we needed some beauty and light in the midst of the horrible stuff, so here goes.

Dang, I am excited about what is happening in my garden. To save time, I am going to quote an email I recently sent to my gardening mentor and muse, Dr. Deb Tolman (http://debtolman.com/). She is so wonderful. Replied back to this email six times with comments and advice. Smile

Subject: pooled water = miracle

Dr. Deb,

Phone conversations are difficult for me, since I am hard of hearing without hearing aids yet, so I am writing you again. My neighbor, Susan, and I attended your SILO seminar this spring. That was such great fun!

Your keyhole gardening concept saved me from gardening hell. (Thank you) All of my efforts building your raised layered beds have been fruitful. I'm a retired music teacher with no background in the science of soil, and try to follow your advice, but still also do a lot of trial and error projects as well.

Last winter I was running out of time. I wanted many more keyhole gardens, as I had planted fruit trees in most of my existing ones and there was no longer room for veggies in them. (Ate my first pomegranate from one of those trees this year. Whoo hoo!) A friend had sent me an article about hay bale gardening that sounded promising. Observing all of the aging round bales in the fields, I figured - "what the heck . . . let's try it." I bought 11 and started conditioning them. There were lessons to be learned, but overall, they were a success. After the first week in July, the big Texas summer hot and dry weather set in, so that was mostly the end of the harvest. I put shade cloths on the bales and continued irrigation, hoping that many plants would survive the summer.

For a month, I didn't pay much attention to them. Too hot! Determined to have a fall garden, I went back out mid-August to plant some new seeds among the existing plants. One of the issues I considered a "problem" with the round bale gardening thing was that I was unable to prevent water from pooling around the bottom of the bale. It was stinky and messy . . . had to start wearing my rubber boots. My husband took his plow and dug trenches going down hill from them. And in June we had placed seven new bales on the trenches to be used for the fall garden.

When I returned to the garden in mid-August, something wonderful had happened. This area between the two rows of bales was teaming with life! All kinds of different grasses were growing. Zinnias from a fallen bale were flourishing. And willow trees were growing. Where did they come from?!?

Since I have been watering and conditioning the new row of bales, it appears as if another area is coming to life.

This weekend I will be planting seeds for root crops, green peas, and spinach, and cabbage, broccoli, collards, and brussel sprouts plants into the newer bales.

My husband has routed most of the gray water from out home to different parts of the yard, but the garden is currently watered from our house water (B&B Co-op). It is much less expensive than watering a lawn, since it is concentrated in small areas. However, after I got home from your SILO seminar last spring I told my husband, "hey dude . . . you would have really enjoyed this seminar. It was mostly about harvesting rainwater and building stuff."

He won't admit that he was influenced by that of course, but he did go out and buy the materials to harvest the rainwater from one side of his big metal building. With cooler weather coming he will probably finish it. He is not into gardening much, but loves tractor work, building things, and eating the food from the garden. Smile

A couple of months ago I watched a YouTube video that really moved me. "Lessons of the Loess Plateau" https://youtu.be/8QUSIJ80n50

It seems like this is what you are doing with your SILO project. Yes? It is definitely what I want to do over here on our place in Blooming Grove. I ordered a bunch of new fruit and nut trees that will arrive in November. I plan to put them all in raised beds. And I want to direct the runoff from the other half of my husband's building to a pooled water area for the nut trees.

Here is a link to pictures I took last Saturday of my garden. http://hagle.com/garden/roundbale3.html

Some of those are round bales composting down, and some are the keyhole gardens I built that have logs in the bottom of them.

Anyway, I was so excited to discover that I had executed one of the principles you taught last spring, completely by accident, with delightful results. I am wondering what this could evolve into if I keep adding rows of bales???

Hope you are well and having a great time with SILO.

Many thanks to you,

Marilyn Hagle

Since I wrote this letter, I have mostly finished planting in the newer bales. Still have to plant parsnips and rutabaga seeds.

As always, I hope others have gardening stories to share. That is the best part of writing an essay on c99!

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gulfgal98's picture

and so inspiring. I have long wanted to turn out front yard into a small garden because it is the only area that gets some sunlight. I have always enjoyed your posts on your gardens and sustainability.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

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@gulfgal98

Glad you enjoy my rants. Smile

On the theme of front yard gardens - this is a movie I watched last year and really enjoyed.

"Uncle Nino" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0327210/

I suppose it is a B movie, but it has Joe Mantegna and Anne Archer, and a lovely gardening theme. Maybe I will watch it again tonight.

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Marilyn

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@mhagle Brevard is only about 35 miles from Asheville, so some of Asheville bleeds over to us even though we are smaller, older and not nearly as bohemian or cool as Asheville. But in this part of NC, it is very common for people to put a vegetable garden in their front yard. There are several near me, including in the yard of my walking partner.

I hope to watch the movie either tonight or tomorrow. I really wish you will update us on your garden. Smile

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Hard to imagine it's Texas, isn't it? Well done!

I have no exciting accounts of my own to share, and certainly no photos yet, but I am busy putting up shade structures and a portable greenhouse on my son's few hillside acres in northeast PA. We've planted out a smattering of fruit trees (that the deer are happily munching) and some fruit bushes and maybe a dozen fig trees (our test to see if they'll manage to hold on in a 6a zone) but are keeping everything else in big pots a little longer until my son gets more of a master plan in his head. His farm will be in order of priority fruit and nut orchards, and a food forest, and (my project) a native-plant nursery. Apples, pears, muscadine and traditional table grapes, raspberries, blackberries, blueberries, strawberries, elderberries, aronia, serviceberries (which are native there), pawpaws, persimmons, pomegranates, figs, hardy almonds, walnuts, pecans, hicans, chestnuts. And a whole bunch more I just don't have the mental energy to remember right now.

There will be a lot of testing to all this. First of all, the test of trying to build soil on a steep slope whose existing soil after the glaciers scraped everything is largely eroded stone. Yeah, that'll be a challenge for the rest of my days. I'm proceeding on a refinement of Huegelkultur. But also tests of the plants themselves and breeding thereof. We have maybe thirty to forty, mostly rare heirloom varieties of apples grafted up now -- whips and 2-yr-olds. Maybe ten pears, thirtyish fig varieties, maybe a dozen muscadine varieties (and a grape already growing in the woods that is quite promising). The nut varieties are equally diverse but also centered on a few we've collected from the site of the nursery of an important nut breeder of the mid-twentieth century. The pawpaws center on a few we collected from a Native American orchard of the eighteenth century and earlier.

On the natives side, this is a site that was logged heavily a century ago, leaving the worst genetics of the forest in its wake, so I'm bringing in better genetics from champion trees of the state to mix into the existing forest and get a better pool of traits in any seedlings the combination produces. There will be a lot of sustainable local sourcing of seeds of woody and herbaceous material but also some careful introduction of plants that are native a bit farther down the Appalachians, as we are of the opinion that some assisted migration will be necessary as climate change picks up speed faster than the plants themselves can. Gotta be careful in that, though, as the site has important species of its own that we need to protect.

So, all in all, a mixture of common farming, ornamental horticulture, forest management, and honest-to-god science. Should keep an old coot busy for a while.

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@dance you monster

I hope you document every step here at c99. Don't you love the term "food forest?" That is really what I want to do as well.

Are you putting a greenhouse into a hillside? I am inspired by this dude who grows citrus in Nebraska. https://youtu.be/IZghkt5m1uY

Please keep us informed. Smile

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Marilyn

"Make dirt, not war." eyo

I just love your garden. You are right, it is beautiful, a sight for sore eyes and spirits.

I'm going to order my snow-pea seeds today.

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@randtntx

Could you share with us the variety of snow-pea seeds you order and where you order them from?

That would be great!

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Marilyn

"Make dirt, not war." eyo

@mhagle I bought my snow peas from Park seeds. They only had two varieties left (I don't remember what I bought but will look it up). I also bought several varieties of radish and beet seeds.
In the past we have gotten snow pea seeds from Johnnys seeds. Usually we have really good luck with snow peas and big harvests. They do well in our climate. I will plant them before the end of this month and we end up harvesting them around February.

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Time for off-season gardening here. Three Aerogrows that need composting of dead stuff for new seed starts. And a fig tree to import.

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

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@riverlover

I had two given to me this past year and would like to fire them up! Please write about them. It don't really know where to start.

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Marilyn

"Make dirt, not war." eyo

One day, tell us more about the containers you use. Is there a tree stump?

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@dkmich

Marilyn has been introducing us to the method all summer.

https://caucus99percent.com/content/round-bale-gardening-june-1-2017

https://caucus99percent.com/content/round-bale-gardening-phase-two

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@dance you monster @dkmich

It's the quest to create soil that will grow vegetables in Texas. You are lucky being in the upper midwest!

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Marilyn

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@mhagle is there a difference between hay bale gardening and straw bale gardening?

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@gulfgal98 the only difference is the content? It's all forage I think? Lots of people call hay straw, but it's not the same.

http://www.usaforage.org/products/straw-vs-hay/

Straw is a by-product of seed (or grain) production.
...
Hay is grown specifically, and it’s cut before the plant goes to seed.

I rarely see round bales around here, still the same rectangular pressed flakes as far as I can tell. Food for animals. No plastic wrap, except for the string. It used to be bailing wire when I was growing up, now it's some kind of poly cord.

There were two straw bale homes built down the street when I lived in Petaluma, those were really cool. The straw was the insulation, thick walls. Looked like good sound proofing too.

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It is coming along wonderfully. The growth you wanted and the unexpected environment for other plants and nature. Found a video last week that expanded on deliberately making and nurturing the pooled water type environment. Currently working the subject into tomorrow's open thread.

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.

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@studentofearth

Great. Glad you are covering pooled water tomorrow. Smile

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Marilyn

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My first home grown fig. They are small, but delicious. And my first cuccuzzi|Italian squash. Now to cook it! Any advice? earthling?

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@mhagle trombone squash like my neighbor has grown. I think it is also a close kin to zucchini and is cooked like most summer squash.

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So my angry inner me just asked, where is the husband with the tractor and mechanic repair skills and where is the land? And where do I get the straw bales?

I went back into your previous bale gardening essays (which of course I missed reading) ... and I have to say I liked them a lot.

What kind of cloth would you need to protect against too much rain and against too much very hot sunlight?

Straw bales? I remember that on the east coast Home Depot's garden section sold them? Are they ok?

Just asking, because to be "fair and balanced" (something I hate and don't believe is possible) there are apparently some dangers to straw bale gardening too. (See that's why I hate the internet. It always confuses you and makes people go nuts not knowing who is right who is wrong.)

Here on Maui in Hawaii I always wonder what they do with all the dried banana tree leaves? Can you cut them down to straw and make bales out of them? Maui has very dry and very hot areas with lots of lava rocks and dry grass. Old goats and cattle ranches on those grounds, but really very difficult to imagine to garden on. And of course you don't get a little piece of the land to buy there either.

Then there are very wet and hot tropical areas, too wet for easy vegetable gardening, but I think most people who have gardens haven't even given it a try. I am sure it's doable.

The coconut palm trees can get into your heads to have some strange dreams about them - I mean literally - people get hit by coconuts falling on their heads.

So, up to Palm Tree climbing to harvest the coconuts?
[video:https://youtu.be/QSi_Aei1cAs]
ahem, how much would you pay a guy to climb those trees for harvesting purposes?

Because otherwise beware of ... Death by coconuts
BEWARE_FALLING_COCONUTS_sign_in_Honolulu_Hawaii-Vector.svg_.png

Meanwhile pineapples taste also very good ...
Wink

Peace.

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