(MANAGEMENT craps on Sanders again UPDATED:) Pelosi declines to endorse Sen. Bernie Sanders' single-payer healthcare bill
Pelosi declines to endorse Sen. Bernie Sanders' single-payer healthcare bill
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco) declined Tuesday to endorse Sen. Bernie Sanders' single-payer healthcare bill, saying her immediate goal is to protect the Affordable Care Act from President Trump's efforts to dismantle it.
Pelosi made it clear that her distance from the bill, which Sanders expects to unveil with top progressives this week, creating something of a litmus test for Democrats, had little to do with its contents. Rather she is working on more incremental gains to preserve and expand coverage for as many Americans as possible, despite Republican opposition to Obamacare, she said.
"Right now, I’m protecting the Affordable Care Act," Pelosi told a small group of reporters at a meeting Tuesday in her Capitol Hill office. "None of these other things, whether it’s Bernie’s [bill], can really prevail unless we have the Affordable Care Act protected."
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"I’ve been carrying single-payer signs as party chair of California," she said, referring to her tenure decades ago as state party leader. "I’m a progressive from San Francisco. Proud liberal. I have my own kind of credibility on these subjects."
http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-up...
SURPRISE!!
(NOT)
They are never going to throw him a bone. And the ONLY person who seems not to knows what's going on is Sanders.
**UPDATE**
'Groundbreaking': Democratic Co-Sponsors Rush Aboard Bernie's Medicare for All Train
While holdouts like Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) prefer "marketplace" choices, a full quarter of caucus now backing single-payer bill.
A quarter of Democratic Caucus members in the U.S. Senate have now signed on as co-sponsors of Sen. Bernie Sanders' (I-Vt.) Medicare for All bill, which he plans to introduce Wednesday, signaling a shift among party lawmakers, who may be swayed by recent polling that has indicated a majority of Americans and more than two-thirds of Democrats favor a single-payer national healthcare system.
As of this writing on Tuesday afternoon, the 12 co-sponsors are:
Sens. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.)
Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.)
Cory Booker (D-N.J.)
Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.)
Kamala Harris (D-Calif.)
Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii)
Ed Markey (D-Mass.)
Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.)
Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii)
Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.)
Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.)
Tom Udall (D-N.M.)https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/09/12/groundbreaking-democratic-c...
This could get real interesting.
EDIT: Update
Comments
HORRORS!!! Please -
I'm protecting my donor base! The insurance companies give me loads of money and perks! I cannot abandon them for Bernie or the American people because they don't matter. ONLY I MATTER!!!
Did you hear that or did just I hear that in my head?
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
@Raggedy Ann
It's not just in your head, that's implicit in everything Pelosi babbles in her 'public' persona.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
She has her "own kind of
credibility" don't ya know. Just believe what she says, never mind what she does. Very telling remark on her part there. Shows she's not quite bright enough to get that double entendre. No shock there.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
The Donors don't like it. End of story.
The Oligarchs are the only people whose views count, in the eyes of the Dem. leadership.
The rest of us can go crawl into a corner and die.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Agreed. But They Also Know When to Fish or Cut Bait.
They will either let it happen and slough their $2T/Year in institutional dumb money into something else or they will co-opt it and create the National Medicare Company, but either way it will be "single payer" in the future -- single payer that benefits the Big Suits.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
Brainwrap wrote a diary on Bernie's MFA
Lots of garbled words and a image that I couldn't tell what it even meant.
Then he posted another image that represented MFA and was Bernie's bill. Then he totally crapped all over Bernie's legislation and told everyone that he is a proud incrementalist.
I'm sure you can imagine how the comments went.
One person wrote that she was fine with incrementalism and thought that it should take 20-30 years for everyone to be covered by MFA.
Those people don't care that many people can't even use their insurance because of how high their premiums and deductibles are.
Instead of saving $2,500 a year like Obama told us, their premiums went up over $4,000 a year. No wonder Pelosi wants to protect the ACA. The insurance companies are getting $300 billion. What's not to like?
I'm not surprised about this.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
The only job of the 546 in DC
is to collect money for letting K St.
lobbyists write bills that benefit corporations.
Everything else is Kabuki Theater.
For if we had universal healthcare imagine how
much money would be freed up for ordinary amerikans
to spend on everyday items, CEO's of every other
industry should be crying bloody murder over HC ins.
it only robs from everything else.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
And many people defend what congress does
at least in my stupid state. This is why I dreaded moving back here.
They worship the military, the cops, are okay with corporate welfare because they create jobs and think that many republicans are republicans in name only.
And that Trump is doing a great job.
Sigh
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
"a proud incrementalist."
Yum!
Imagine if continuing facets of the government of Nazi Germany were only finally removed by 1980.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
May be brainwrap should unwrap his brain, seems
he wrapped it too tightly and the necessary bloodflow couldn't get through.
Man, can you please get a real democratic socialist party.
https://www.euronews.com/live
God forbid
that the U.S. enter the 20th Century, let alone the 21st, when it comes to meaningful health care for all.
Obviously not the American Way.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
God forbid that would happen, imagine
Americans be healthy and confident that they are cared for. That would be really scary and a threat to the healthcare and pharmaceutical industry. /s
https://www.euronews.com/live
Well hell, at least she's honest
unlike Liz and Kamala out pandering to the progressives. Nancy is an honest politician damn it, she tells it just like it is! s/ I have about the same admiration for her I do for the Klan - at least they're honest about their ugliness, unlike the rest of the lying shills.
Edit to add: Now I certainly have no real "admiration" for the Klan, don't take that wrong. And maybe their hoods don't really make them all that honest, but they won't lie and truly deny what they are either. And our Democrats certainly cannot say they do anything close to not denying who THEY are. They smile while inserting the knife where at least the Klansmen might be smiling but he'd also be telling you the truth about just who he is.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
I think there's a lot of racists who are not honest
about who they are. There seems to be a few in the White House.
Beware the bullshit factories.
That was my thought, lizzyh7. Pelosi may be
despicable, but, at least she's being honest.
More than I can say for Schumer, who claims that single-payer is 'one of the options on the table.'
Yeah, suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure!
Mollie
“I believe in the redemptive powers of a dog’s love. It is in recognition of each dog’s potential to lift the human spirit, and therefore, to change society for the better, that I fight to make sure every street dog has its day.”
--Stasha Wong, Secretary, Save Our Street Dogs (SOSD)
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
We can only hope her primary opponent takes her down.
How old is that woman anyway? CA really needs new blood younger than 90.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
I think Pelosi is younger than Diane Feinstein
Who also does not seem supportive of MFA.
Beware the bullshit factories.
Pelosi was born in 1940 according to Wikipedia.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
There's something about these old, rich, white, Californians
They're out of touch with regular Americans and the genuine problems that people face. They think they get it, but they are actually clueless, and as such are a waste of legislative space.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
It's hard to see the mortals from Mt. Olympus.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
From up there . . .
we look like bugs. I think that might be part of the problem.
@dervish
That's why government's supposed to be of, by and for the people, acting to represent them and their interests. So that they actually know what, when and how things need to be done and are concerned about doing a good job for their people and country.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Old, rich, white California
Republicans, ah yes, my peeps, who are really inordinately proud of their stupidity, many of them. My whole family, but the truly dumb part that's driven me crazy most of my life? These asshole's ain't even rich! I once asked my mother if she thought she was one of them, the rich ones she so seems to identify with. Of course she had no answer, she knew good and well she wasn't in their league. Their hypocrisy comes out later when they're not only more than willing to take their own SS and Medicare, but they tell YOU that you'll just need to accept cuts when your time comes. That is my personal hot button with Repukes of all stripes but especially my own damned family. I love the weather in Cally and still miss it sometimes, but I could never live there again, not So Cal anyway.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
Feinstein
Ah yes, Diane "I can have a gun but you can't" Feinstein.
Groooaannn!!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
And I'm sure both use THEIR Medicare.
That's also how the rich stay rich, they grift off the rest of us and tell us we're the worthless ones.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
"Progressive from San Francisco" my @ss!
She's a carpetbagger from Baltimore who was given a safe seat because she raised a lot of money and the person who earned it was gay and a real progressive.
On to Biden since 1973
She is a dinosaur, timer for
She is a dinosaur, time for her to go, and you know the whole protect the ACA over Single Payer is because of the bribes they get from the Big Insurance and big Pharma.
So long, and thanks for all the fish
A Senate full of dinosaurs - and I hoped they were all extinct/s
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@mimi
They are mostly pretty fossilized, one way or another - maybe they'll all soon get stuffed and reside in a museum where they'll do no more harm?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
That will greatly help Stephen Jaffe beat Pelosi
If Pelosi helps kill MFA.
Jaffe For Congress
Beware the bullshit factories.
People dislike her
for the same reason they can't stand HRC. She's so cocooned by lobbyists, jr. wonks, hangers on and yes people, and so unused to walking among the "working class" she can't relate to anyone not in her very exclusive club. She's obviously intelligent, like HRC, and also clueless, like HRC, on whats devouring American.
You say "clueless"
For myself personally I've abandoned the "stupid" defense for these people a long time ago. I think they know exactly what they are doing. That makes the proper word for them something more like "evil" or "monstrous" rather than just "clueless".
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard
All you need to know
[video:https://youtu.be/Bgs6oUxvh6U?t=1m25s]
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
Just another reason...
why Nancy Pelosi needs to be replaced.
Should the Dems take Congress in 2018 and she becomes speaker again, watch how fast she takes impeachment of Trump off the table!
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush
@reflectionsv37
I wouldn't give 2 Pence for our chances with Trump impeached. Can't he just be safely kept locked in some spacious closet with a lot of toy hotels and pussy hats to grab for the duration?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Democrats insist that Bernie's supporters behave
They are very upset that he hasn't told his supporters to stop criticizing members of the DP.
And they don't want them to criticize Harris who is an upcoming presidential candidate.
They say that they were very generous to let him run on the democratic platform.
Grap some wine and cheese before you read this.
Bernie backers' attacks on Democrats infuriate the party
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
They just don't get it. Bernie can't tell us what to. He never
has. He just supported issues that we care about.
Hillary abused us and told us we want impossible things. She told us she didn't need us and we had the gall to believe her.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
@snoopydawg
And they can't even understand how revealing it is that they refer to 'Bernie's backers' and Bernie's fans' because the notion of actually representing the people is so alien to them.
As they consistently demonstrate, they believe that the public is supposed to shut up, do as they're told and come to heel, because they are their masters, not public servants.
America needs a regime change. Now.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Murray and Cantwell
Neither of Washington State's Senators, Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell, is supporting Bernie's bill. They're both Big Pharma types, especially Murray, to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars received in donations.
As far as I know, Murray and Cantwell haven't made any public statements about single payer. However, people who have contacted Murray to ask that she sign on to Bernie's bill are being told "I'm not supporting it because I want more choices in the marketplace".
That's almost word-for-word what Tim Kaine said. It's the standard neoliberal line. Everything is always and only about "the marketplace", not about serving the American people.
Most people I know want health care when they need it. Not "more choices in the insurance marketplace".
"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi
"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone
That belated rush of co
That belated rush of co-signers makes me wonder if they finally realize that Bernie has been and is showing Americans by contrast that both wings of the Corporate Vampire Party invariably prove by their attitudes and actions that they're useless and destructive abusers sucking them dry and need to be fired out of the political canon, so to speak... people are more and more waking up to this, thanks to Bernie.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.