Trump Cut Deal with Dems? Yes, he did & more may be in the works
Remember that old song lyric, "call me unpredictable" from the Sinatra classic "Call me Irresponsible?" It looks like today the Republicans may be calling Trump both, and lots of other names for working out a debt ceiling deal with Pelosi and Schumer without GOP input:
After meeting with Republican and Democratic congressional leaders Wednesday morning, President Trump announced that he had cut a deal with the Democrats that would provide a first tranche of aid to victims of Hurricanes Harvey and Irma, as well as keep the government funded and solvent past the end of the month.
With Congress facing a slew of do-or-die deadlines in September, Trump met with the leaders at the White House. When he spoke with reporters a few hours later, as he departed on Air Force One for a speech in North Dakota, the president praised House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer, affectionately calling them by their first names and making no mention of the Republican leaders he had met with, House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.
Shocked? Surprised? Wondering what the hell is up? You're not alone.
The remarkable turn of events left Republican congressional leaders, in control of both chambers of the legislative branch, "shell-shocked" and "visibly annoyed," and showcased how a President who also authored "The Art of the Deal" actually cuts one.
Trump's stunning agreement to endorse a plan proposed by Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi came during a Wednesday morning meeting with leaders from both parties in the Oval Office, the first such meeting of Trump's presidency. [...]
A senior Republican source described Trump as being in "Apprentice" mode, a reference to the reality show that made the President a TV star. Trump just decided to listen and then make a decision on the spot, the source told CNN.
McConnell and Ryan were "blindsided by this," a Republican official told CNN. In fact, hours before Trump agreed to Democrats' proposal, Ryan had publicly called such a plan "ridiculous" during a news conference. The GOP leaders had no heads up or warning that Trump's decision would happen, Republican officials told CNN. Another senior GOP source described the two leaders as "shell-shocked."
Why now? I have no clue. Maybe Trump simply got fed up with politics as usual. He's always been an impatient, spontaneous actor. Or maybe he saw his falling popularity and decided enough was enough, especially since the unpopularity of Congress is even lower than his own. Or maybe he's trying to grease the skids for a Tax Reform bill, as some believe. We do know he's doing this on his own, without following the advice of GOP Congressional leader or even members of his cabinet, like Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin. In short he's flying solo. How long it will last I can't tell you. But he is even open to working with the Dem leadership on replacing the DACA program Obama initiated and he just cancelled.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump turned to Democrats for a second straight day on Thursday to try to resolve the fate of so-called Dreamers brought illegally into the United States as children, a day after stunning his fellow Republicans by striking a deal with the opposition party on U.S. debt and federal spending.
Conservatives in the House are bound to rally against any deal he makes with the Democrats. The question is, can he hold onto enough GOP support in the Senate and House to actually accomplish something? I guess we'll find out. After a stagnant and failed start to his legislative agenda, it seems Trump is determined to accomplish something - anything - even if it means pissing off the Republican leadership and joining hands with the despised (to his base, and frankly to many of progressives) Senate and House Minority Leaders, Schumer and Pelosi.
I guess football season isn't the only thing that is returning after a long hiatus. National politics suddenly has entered a new, more active phase, as well. For the time being anyway, Trump has jump started the political games. Indeed, you might even say he flipped the board and started a completely new "season" of political maneuvering. What comes next is anyone's guess. But I can only assume there will be a big backlash from the Republican party of which Trump is ostensibly the leader. Stay tuned.
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Next up-DACA Green Cards in exchange for a Wall? OK by me.
chuck utzman
TULSI 2020
Yup, people were getting bored, so a TWIST was needed.
Or in the wrestling parlance, a Face Turn.
It'll last as long as it gets attention, then the kayfabe will demand that he go Heel again...
Until that gets less attention, then a surprise run in by a trusted ally, and another Heel Turn... spin parry repeat, makes my head hurt just thinking about it.
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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
I'm waiting for the Dusty screw job.
" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "
@detroitmechworks As they say, if you
It makes my head hurt too.
I don't like this pay-per-view. Can we watch a DVD instead?
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Yah, I'm dying to watch Stardust again...
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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
@detroitmechworks This is clearly
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I strongly suspect
he cut a deal with Pelosi and Shumer to throw SS and Medicare under the bus later on to fund tax cuts for the rich.
Pelosi AND Shumer are that despicable.
Remember that Obama put it on the table once before.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
I hadn't thought of that
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
@earthling1 I don't know why the Dems
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Andt only did O'Bummer put
Believing in the improbable can make your life a miracle.
You nailed it, earthling1! EOM
Mollie
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
I'm gonna play Devil's Advocate
He may have fired Mitch McConnel.
There are 10 legislative days left to get all these things done, and McConnel/Ryan haven't gotten jack shit done in eight months. The deadlines aren't going to move.
Somebody may have shown Trump a map with Irma going right over Mara Lago and explained that if these bills don't get passed in time there won't be any money for him.
So he cuts a deal with the other team. Something gets passed. Trump gets some leverage over McConnel/Ryan. He has a way to cut out the far right flank in Congress.
Republicans can't replace Obamacare. Hey, Sanders has a bill, it's picking up co-sponsors. Mitch, either come up with a better plan by this date or bring the Sanders bill to the floor.
Photo op: Trump and Sanders shaking hands as Medicare For All passes. Trumpcare is the law of the land, Obamacare is in the ashbin of history. Trump tells his supporters that he killed Obamacare. The Clinton wing takes a huge hit.
It might be just crazy enough to work.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
the Sanders bill
From your keyboard to Ceiling Cat's tufted ears!!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
It would be sweet.
Imagine burying Obama and the rabid right at the same time. Still, I trust Dems less than I trust Trump.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
@WoodsDweller Is Trump capable of
No other politician has been for the past thirty years.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Do you think
El Trumpo is concerned with anything except himself? He isn't in the insurance business, so what does he care about it? He wants a "win", one with is name on it, and to erase anything with Obama's name on it. He wants to keep his job.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
@WoodsDweller Does he keep his job
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
He keeps his job
as long as he keeps his numbers up. Bear that in mind as he does all this crazy (to us) stuff - it keeps his approval among Republican voters too high for Congress to take action.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
@WoodsDweller I find it very
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Remember Trump used to be a Democrat.
So we are still in the "okay" stage of Kabuki theater.
“When there's no fight over programme, the election becomes a casting exercise. Trump's win is the unstoppable consequence of this situation.” - Jean-Luc Melanchon
And if you caught any of
Many in the "D" party had been about Hillary in 2016 - a long time ago. (Like probably the day after Obama won in Nov 2008.)
Believing in the improbable can make your life a miracle.
typo
"any deal he males" could you correct so i can share?
"If you're on fire, and running down the street, people will get out of your way." Davey- Cordovan Athabascan Native
Fixed
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
This is just a guess, and i'm sure to be wrong
but if i were Trump i would try to position myself for when the RUSSIA! thing fizzzles. If you were Trump, what election would you prefer - a 2 way against Bernie or Tulsi, or a 3 way with a Corruptocrat that 15 or 20% actually thinks is "electable"? He's propping up the tankers while making any Republican challenger look inconsequential.
On to Biden since 1973
Chuck and Nancy are in charge of deciding how to help us
after we get smacked by Irma?
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
So-o-o
No sense in ruining the peach or orange groves if we can smoosh up the real problem makers.
Believing in the improbable can make your life a miracle.
Loose cannon is loose n/t
There is no justice. There can be no peace.