The Alt-Right's Obsession With Pedophilia, Paranoia and How it Obfuscates Real Crime

If you've been on youtube, facebook and twitter, chances are you've likely heard about pizzagate. To sum it up, pizzagate involves the conspiracy that the 'elites' were running a pedophilia ring out of a DC pizza joint. Ridiculous, right? That didn't stop someone from shooting up a DC pizza joint based on tips from Alex Jones, to which the people who spun the story responded by calling it a false flag (more on false flags later). Nevermind the actual pedophile rings being run out of Southeast Asia and Central/South America. Pizzagate is real, they say. Yet their lord and savior God Emperor Dipshit won't investigate. Gee, I wonder why.

Yet, if anyone even tries to call it out for the insanity that it is, they're labelled either as pedophiles or defenders of pedophilia in spite of the fact that most people actually don't support it at all no matter where they are on the political spectrum (Even though the same reddit and 4chan dipshits who swallow this tripe whole accuse the left of supporting pedophilia every chance they get).

The main issue with this kind of crap is that it minimizes and obfuscates real, actual crimes. To certain segments of the interwebs, everything is a false flag. Unless it happens to their guy. Then it isn't. School shooting? False flag. GOP Softball Game shooting? Real. And it's all the left's fault. And don't forget the bits about crisis actors, fake children and Satanic Cults because they're involved too don'tcha know.

Don't get the wrong idea. Their Centrist Democratic enablers also feed the narrative via the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA bullshit. So either way, we all lose with regards to conversation which is why we can't have nice things.

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See ya around,

Aspie

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Not Henry Kissinger's picture

There are some very creepy emails in there written with coded language that are highly suggestive of a pedophilia ring.

There are also some pretty horrifying reports of child sexploitation out of Haiti, where the Clinton Foundation was fully 'invested'.

Also look up Jeffrey Epstein and the plane rides he used to give Bill.

I also don't think the various nationwide pedophilia stings conducted after the Podesta emals were leaked are just a coincidence.

Oh and finally: Weiner.

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@Not Henry Kissinger

There are also some pretty horrifying reports of child sexploitation out of Haiti, where the Clinton Foundation was fully 'invested'.

I wouldn't put this past them, but running it out of a pizza joint? I doubt it.

And if I'm not mistaken, didn't Trumpy Boy have some kind of relationship with Epstein?

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@The Aspie Corner

running it out of a pizza joint?

if I told you that the owner of the joint, James Alefantis, used to date David Brock?

That's the same David Brock who was accused of posting child pornography on Bernie FB organizing pages to shut them down just before the big April 26 5-state primary.

Be interesting to know where he got the pics from.

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@Not Henry Kissinger

if I told you that the owner of the joint, James Alefantis, used to date David Brock?

That's the same David Brock who was accused of organizing the posting of child pornography on Bernie FB organizing pages to shut them down just before the big April 26 5-state primary.

Be interesting to know where he got the pics from.

Fascinating and creepy all at once.

That being said, I won't take 4chan, reddit or youtube shitposters seriously when it comes to the subject due to the fact that they accuse anyone and everyone who doesn't swallow their stories wholesale of being or supporting any number of things.

Then again, those places aren't exactly bastions of stimulating conversation.

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@The Aspie Corner
The main issue with this kind of crap is people like the OP who repeat the NYT version of the story.

You claim the allegation is that a pornography ring was being run out of a pizza joint. Really? Is that the allegation? Made by whom? Because the only people claiming that allegation are the mainstream media sources who are immediately using that claim to base their disproving of the story.

The REAL allegation is that the pizza parlor had a members only area (easily proved at the time via the "login" link) and claims (via screen caps) that members could purchase and download a listing of encrypted files.

It's a shame the OP didn't research the topic enough to inform the readers of this.

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To sum it up, pizzagate involves the conspiracy that the 'elites' were running a pedophilia ring out of a DC pizza joint. Ridiculous, right?

Did you READ my post?

Then why didn't they report on how the Trump administration arrested 1500 pedophiles in the first 30 days, and since taking office 3x the number of kiddie porn and sex trafficking arrests have been made. Crickets.

Good for the Dipshit Administration. Now they can wear halos while working with corporate Dems to privatize everything that isn't nailed down.

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@The Aspie Corner As I just pointed out, the NYT and the WaPo et al immediately took to disproving the story with a skewed version of it. Just a lot of CT? Then why didn't they report on how the Trump administration arrested 1500 pedophiles in the first 30 days, and since taking office 3x the number of kiddie porn and sex trafficking arrests have been made. Crickets.

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@The Aspie Corner which is a front for a large bookie enterprise. They get maybe one legit customer a week, the rest are all punters. It doesn't matter what the storefront is, pizza shop, dry cleaners, White House--it's all the same on the inside.

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@Alligator Ed

They get maybe one legit customer a week, the rest are all punters. It doesn't matter what the storefront is, pizza shop, dry cleaners, White House--it's all the same on the inside.

And given the way the Trump administration is heading, I fully expect him to have a few scandals of his own besides the ones out there already with his brazen violations of the emoluments clause and charging the state purse for his vacations at his own resorts like Mar-a-Lago which are kicking the crap out of Palm Beach economically. Many other businesses in the area can't operate because of the extra security precautions. And the Secret Service isn't doing too hot either because the Cheeto ran out their budget to boot.

No doubt his biggest followers will cry false flag and fake news, but let's face it: Trump is a fall guy. He's blatantly incapable of governing and most people, including many in his own base, know it. The only saving grace is that the longer he stays, the less damage the Repigs and Dems can do to us policy wise.

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@Not Henry Kissinger has been suppressed. I agree with Not Henry Kissinger on this issue. It is very difficult for any of us to fathom, but I believe that it is very real and far more widespread than most of us could even guess. It might be called human trafficking, but most of the victims are children and many of them are disposed (killed) of after they have been used.

Edit to add: It upsets me to have even written this comment because the idea of abusing and possibly killing a child in this way is so disturbing.

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@gulfgal98

I agree with Not Henry Kissinger on this issue. It is very difficult for any of us to fathom, but I believe that it is very real and far more widespread than most of us could even guess. It might be called human trafficking, but most of the victims are children and many of them are disposed (killed) of after they have been used.

In fact, I'd wager our foreign and domestic policies only make the situation worse when it comes to trafficking people, especially children into this country to be abused in such a manner. No amount of arrests or raids will make any difference until the root causes are addressed, not that such a thing will happen anytime soon.

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The main issue with this kind of crap is that it minimizes and obfuscates real, actual crimes. To certain segments of the interwebs, everything is a false flag. Unless it happens to their guy. Then it isn't. School shooting? False flag. GOP Softball Game shooting? Real. And it's all the left's fault. And don't forget the bits about crisis actors, fake children and Satanic Cults because they're involved too don'tcha know.

Because of this very thing, I tend to disbelieve all "false flag" and "conspiracy" claims unless accompanied by extraordinarily good quality direct evidence naming the whos, whys and wherefores. Evidence, by the way, that I have yet to see.

Don't get the wrong idea. Their Centrist Democratic enablers also feed the narrative via the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA bullshit. So either way, we all lose with regards to conversation which is why we can't have nice things.

This too! And yes, we all lose with respect to the conversations we really need to have about why things suck as much as they do -- avoidably.

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of babies with Down's Syndrome, because Sarah Palin says they do and CBS leads with breaking news:

Iceland is on pace to virtually eliminate Down syndrome through abortion. #CBSNOA learns more, tonight at 10pm ET/PT https://t.co/EB6BKgQFN3 pic.twitter.com/SOKU7oe6a3

— CBS News (@CBSNews) August 15, 2017

Evil Nazi Icelandic doctor clears things up:

The claims that 100 percent of women in Iceland who receive a positive prenatal test for Down syndrome terminate their pregnancy are false, according to Hulda Hjartardóttir, chief of obstetrics at Iceland’s National University Hospital.

The claims were put forth in a story by CBSN:On assignment that has gotten a huge response with public figures, such as Sarah Palin who likened the abortions to the Nazi Holocaust.

Excellent journalism CBS:

The claims were put forth in a story by CBSN:On assignment that has gotten a huge response with public figures, such as Sarah Palin who likened the abortions to the Nazi Holocaust.

Hulda was one of the interviewees in the CBS News story. “I went over this with CBS’s journalists but then they decide to publish one thing and not the other,” she says.

We can not allow truth to get in the way of a good story.

http://icelandmonitor.mbl.is/news/news/2017/08/16/doctor_says_cbs_news_c...

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@ghotiphaze that claimed water was turning people (or was it frogs) gay in Mexico, I'm not surprised.

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constant suggestions of molestation of my kids, simply because of the fact I'm a single father...

You know, what, FUCK the Democrats if they are offended by suggestions that heavily coded language will be taken suspiciously.

The constant accusations of "Dog Whistles" and talking about what people "REALLY mean" is infecting our fucking culture, to the point where people no longer feel that they MUST call out every single thing that could possibly construed as racist or sexist or possibly indicative of what the listener thinks of as bias, in the most tortured and bizarre manner which takes absolutely NO notice of the speakers intent. Instead, it's all about how something could possibly be taken, because we must take into account all cultures and every single historical oppression, even the ones that only exist in the mind of the accuser.

It's become a fucking religion of "White People are ALWAYS wrong" and that's not only bigoted, but a disgrace to the concept of justice, in general. Apparently, I'm supposed to be ok with how other cultures treat people like chattel, or of being of a lesser value... UNLESS a white person has at some point committed that sin as well. In which case it's not ok to talk about, because imperialism.

Seriously. FUCK this shit. I'm tired of the silencing techniques, and the constant drumbeat of what "YOU REALLY ARE THINKING"!!!! When it's turned around on the perpetrators, it's not a conspiracy theory, it's simply applying the same fucking standards that they apply to us.

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@detroitmechworks Accuse first, then jail/punish/kill, then ask questions later. Seriously. That's Calvinist culture in a nutshell. I do get where you're coming from, though. The Democrats and Republicans need to have this divide and conquer crap thrown right back at them by the constituents.

The DNC boycott after the lawsuit was thrown out is a good start. It'll be a tad harder with Repigs because they're corrupt and proud of it. It also doesn't help that they're in charge presently but something tells me God Emperor Dipshit will bring down that dumpster fire soon enough.

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@The Aspie Corner was an alt-right meme to associate Trump with Warhammer 40K "For the lulz" and the "Glory" it's actually a fairly apt depiction of Trump...

IF you go with the current state of the 40K universe.

In the 40K universe, the "God-Emperor" is trapped in a golden prison, unable to change anything, speak, or even show that he's even alive. All the decisions are made by the bureaucrats and sycophants, dissension is punished by death, and anybody who even thinks about talking to an "Alien" is a heretic of the highest order. (This of course is a British Wargame series that made everybody evil so all sides could fight against each other without having to justify it.) If anything, the "God Emperor" is more a creation of millennia of propaganda, LONG after the heights of human achievement have been ground down into the dust as anathema to the cult of the Empire.

As I said, Surprisingly accurate for a lore that originated in the early 80s.

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If anything, the "God Emperor" is more a creation of millennia of propaganda, LONG after the heights of human achievement have been ground down into the dust as anathema to the cult of the Empire.

Considering last year's electoral clusterfuck proved our vote meant shit at any level, I could see where this would be an apt statement. And besides, Dipshit won't do anything that he can't make money off of save a few token actions that might placate his idiot supporters.

And of course, when Dipshit fucks up, they just blame (((Teh Jewz))) because everything is their fault.

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regarding high-level pedophile rings. But they certainly have existed, and probably still do... in DC, in Europe, and in England. The Dutroux affair in Belgium, Jimmy Saville's entourage in England, and the Franklin cover-up here, being a few notable examples. There may be, or may not be anything of substance to the "Pizzagate" accusations -- but in any event, I agree with you that focusing on this could be a distraction from more obvious, and more easily provable misbehaviors.

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