G20 Fail
There were three areas of failure at the G20 in Hamburg.
The most obvious and easy to identify was Donald man-child Trump.
I'll let this Australian reporter sum it up better than I could.
The second obvious failure was with the public at large.
"Welcome to Hell" was the first of over 30 planned demonstrations in the days before, during and after the G20 Summit. On Saturday, Hamburg Police said 213 officers were injured, at least 114 protesters were arrested and 98 detained over the three days.
Finally, there is the failure that really matters.
The Hamburg G20 might go down in history as the moment the international elite just couldn't hold it together any longer. For years, leaders of the most powerful countries have come together to cooperate on how to run the world: the G6, G7, G8, G20. Their watchword was stability.
...The international elite are divided. This should scare us, as such divisions can plunge the world into violence and disorder. But the situation is not hopeless...This G20 will pitch the "strongmen" against the "moderates" - Merkel, Macron, Trudeau. The latter might look nicer, talk nicer and act nicer. Merkel has put climate change, migration and free trade on the agenda, much to the chagrin of Trump.
We shouldn't be fooled. The G20 agenda utterly fails to break with the tired, broken policies of the free market. In other words, those very policies which, by increasing inequality and devastating communities, turning everyone into a self-interested individual, have unwittingly given rise to the likes of Trump. And that's to ignore the "Trumpism" in European politics - the barbaric immigration policy at Europe's borders through which thousands of desperate migrants die in the Mediterranean every year.
Sure, Merkel wants cooperation on climate change and thinks globalisation should work for the many, not the few. Who can disagree? But what does that really mean? A desperate attempt to restore the system that was destroyed on the day Lehman Brothers collapsed.
The G20 agenda talks about the need for structural reforms to reduce debt. Like those deeply anti-social policies the European Union has imposed on Greece for the last eight years, which have devastated that country and its people?
As I recently pointed out, neoliberalism has failed.
The problem, as was on display in Hamburg, is that our elites have no Plan B.
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There is no plan B
because it doesn't exist.
The only plan the elites can agree on is to stay in power. They can't see those that are beneath them. Sure, they see rumblings and riots. They see threats to their own livelihoods and that is all. But they will never care enough to see those who suffer from austerity. Those who suffer from inequity. War. Famine.
It's beyond them. They believe it will never affect them as long as they are in power. What they fail to see is what happens to them when their power is over none but themselves. Oh how they'll fight then.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Maybe the real problem is the peasants have no plan A.
Many were calling the G20 a collection of the biggest criminals on the planet. How did WE let that happen? I think what we're looking at, more than a failure of the economic system, is a failure of western and world government. Perhaps as long as we keep trying to elect "leaders" like this we'll keep getting the same results. Remember Hitler, Stalin, all our war criminal presidents, it's always about the so called leaders. Now we've got Trump. We allow all the power to concentrate at the top with those who have the most wealth.
Literally if we don't take down the wealth, institutions and systems the rich use to control and keep power, nothing can change. Humans are not capable enough to overcome their instincts for wealth and power.
is it capatalism
and gjohn,
that has failed? That's been my thought lately. The capitalist system has finally collapsed.
The anarchists suggest small communities (islands of sanity?), but I don't think they (TPTB) would let that happen.
I guess I'm saying I don't have a plan A either, but if I was world Tsar, my first step would be to stop all our senseless war and use that money to help people. Next would be to stop extraction of fossil fuels, and to wrap up this dream sequence, a national jobs program assuring everyone of a full time 20 or 30 hour/week job.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
It's reached a different level with instant globalization.
I keep saying, the only way out I see is to force a change in how we're governed by ending rule by the rich, not just in this country but globally. A massive, historical impact movement to finally end this human madness of greed and violence. It can be done. In that respect, the over the top global capitalism, the incredible wealth inequality, the wars and imperialism, the inattentiveness to climate change and poverty, and the blatantly obvious global oligarchies controlling the masses, can work in our favor because it clearly shows to any thinking individual it cannot go on this way. Very few want to confront this fact, especially our rulers, but we have to eventually because NOTHING is slowly down.
If I were world Tsar
My first step would be to set fire to every "newsroom" that colluded with politicians, manipulated us, lied to us, and collected million dollar contracts for doing it.
In its place, we could show how people are actually living in the world today. Better yet, maybe if the masses unplugged entirely and spent their free time gardening, or baking a pie for their neighbors, or sitting down with them with a glass of wine and started a series of heart to heart conversations about what we have in common, we'd feel a little more hopeful than we do now.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Inequality's Part
But, since we have allowed the pool of the ultra-powerful to shrink to a small number, the is a concentration of ideas in those fewer brains. It's obvious. I think a nation, a society that can reward the broadest swath with the fruits of their own labor is a much better system. And it can be done easily in a capitalist system, but they don't want to believe that it can be achieved in America, and they will sabotage any efforts toward income and wealth equality to prove it!
I'm reading Perlstein's "Before the Storm", and it tells the tale of the nouveau rich and upper-middle-class westerners, who were getting taxed to death on their income - which was all they had - from Washington and New York (where all the banks eventually ended up, too), while the eastern elite were keeping their investments. So we see the genesis of the Reagan Revolution there in Barry Goldwater.
Bernie is a win-win.
Tomights Evening News on German TV was lead by
one question: "Was it worth it"? Some German politicians answered "no", most answered "yes, but.." noone said it was a success... the news about the G20 summit was that there were no news and that was what really mattered. Sigh.
I agree with the three videos posted, just that I don't believe that the police had made a mistake in how they reacted. I don't think they had another choice. I somewhat disagree with Rainer Rothfuss in the RT video saying that the police (themselves being in black riot gear) followed a wrong strategy. He suggested that a better strategy for the Hamburg police would have been a non-fight princicple and defensive and rather accomodating attitude to ease the pressure inside these demonstration groups.
Quite frankly that seems to me a dishonest suggestion. The police has the task to prevent damage to property of normal German residents and small businesses. The mingling of black block terrorists into the many peaceful protestors and their actions to destroy cars, set fire, throw pavement stones and bottles at police and property started from themselves, not the police. Had the police not tried to disperse them, they would have been accused even more to have failed. The victims who look at their destroyed properties must and will be compensated by German tax payers. Why shouldn't they be pissed having to do that. The images are awful. Warlike. I don't like wars and I don't like hell. And among those "Welcome to hell" demonstrators were smaller groups, who roamed through the area (an old town part of Hamburg) and started to destroy and set fires. The police couldn't have been "accommodating to those activities" and they had to prevent them from going on further.
To blame the mayor of Hamburg or the police for being overly aggressive is imo "humbug". Videos showing demonstrators throwing molotov cocktails from roof tops on to the police in the streets below are not seductive to be met with an "accomodating attitude in response" by the police. Blame games are always too easy to play to be taken at face value.
Other than that, I commend you for the choice of videos.
I think there should be a link to the documents. G20 Summit Declaration and other documents and the final communique G20 Leaders´ Declaration - Shaping an interconnected world
Was it worth it? No, "ausser Spesen nichts gewesen, und die Spesen waren zu hoch" (freely translated: "it was a waste of time and effort and money (and this time around too much money)".
Can I forget now the G20 summit? How about you look at the images of the demonstration of opposition political forces in Turkey.(YOu could do a google translation from German into English, but those tend to be 'funny' and not easy to understand). A miffed German news anchor suggested that the black block folks should play out their "heroic deeds" over there In Erdogan country. At least then they would get a political clue and Erdogan deserved their "heroic deeds" as well. Ok the last part I said, not the news anchorman.
No more molotov cocktails and bombs please.
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Really insightful comment, Mimi.
We're lucky to have you there, enhancing our perspective with your own impressions.
IMAGINE if you woke up the day after a US Presidential Election and headlines around the the world blared, "The Majority of Americans Refused to Vote in US Presidential Election! What Does this Mean?"
Well, it seems an error
to kettle perfectly peaceful protesters in scorching heat for no apparent reason.
I see people being beaten and tossed around who didn't seem to be setting fires or destroying property.
The truth is, people attracted to police work often have a rather sick need for power and control, and these scenarios give them permission to exercise an excess of same.
I'll agree that they needed to stop any apparent violence by smaller groups intent on inciting more, but the majority of footage doesn't show any of that.
well, I think the most "fair" reporting about
the issue is the newsletter from the online edition of the weekly newspaper "Die Zeit". They call it "Elbvertiefung" (meaning digging a deeper navigable channel through the river "Elbe" which runs through Hamburg. I like their coverage and get their daily newsletter miraculously in my email inbox. I have no idea who did that to me. But I like their coverage).
That's what I got this morning. It's a bit more insightful, I think, than your judgement of the events that happened. You can translate it into English, if you want to, but I doubt it would help you and I am off to ordinary work and it's too much for me to edit a google translated version of that text. It's too much to clean out like ads etc. in there, may be I try an edited version of a google translate later. Sorry for the hassle.
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Everything Chris Uhlmann thinks was bad about the G20
…is what was really good about it (in that first video). Uhlmann, as a reporter, is an establishment throwback who wants the US to be his Daddy and tell him what to do. The world is changing around him but the significance of that is going right over his head. His own country, Australia, is getting it together, yet Uhlmann is in his bubble, worried that the communists are coming to get him. He want's his old America back, bless his heart.
I couldn't be more pleased that Trump is forcing the Vassal States of the US — many in attendance at the G20 — to grow up and become independent. He's showing the world how depraved the rogue US government really is. It's about damned time! This will help the American people get a grip on their own power and oust the Neocon/Neoliberal scourge that is actively destroying the world.
Between the spectacular protests out front and the US showing its real face, for once, it's the best and most hopeful G20 I've seen. Especially after eight years of conceited posturing and the do-nothing passive aggressiveness that Obama brought. The tragically delayed negotiated cease-fire in Syria is the cherry on top.
The American People built that, by hook or crook. Well done.
IMAGINE if you woke up the day after a US Presidential Election and headlines around the the world blared, "The Majority of Americans Refused to Vote in US Presidential Election! What Does this Mean?"
Wish I had more recs to give you for this comment.
The US is at war against its own decline
Russia and China are the apparent targets, but really it's the US fighting against the formation of a multipolar world. It's all designed to demean other countries, but has no focused goals. Consider Obama's statements about Russia being a gas station and a failed state. Why bother doing this? Why demand that Russia gift Crimea to the Ukraine? It will never happen, but doing so demeans Russia without discussing real issues or having a particular negotiable goal. Let's demand every day that the US give back the South West??
Now throw President Trump into this. Wow! He doesn't get "the program". Why should he, it's illogical. Already the Deep State is trying to force backpedaling on Trump, and he seems to be giving in, on the issue of forming a joint task force to fight cyber terrorism. Someone in the State Department "educated" him to the fact that the US is the biggest cyber terrorist, and that bashing Russia for our sins is part of the fight against US decline...don't take that away.
It was definitely symbolic that 19 nations celebrated the Paris Accords at the end of the conference! How can the civilized world take him seriously? And why would they then line up with the US against other civilized countries?
Capitalism has always been the rule of the people by the oligarchs. You only have two choices, eliminate them or restrict their power.
So true about the demeaning of fellow nations.
The US is the worst sort of partner, projecting their lowest and most flawed schemes onto the aspirations of others. It's abusive and so typical of twisted souls of Neocons.
It's been a long time since the US had a national goal that they dare share with the people. The people suck up any narrative that relieves their feelings of national aimlessness and alienation, and somehow explains the murderous violence and the river of suffering that the US is engaged in.
IMAGINE if you woke up the day after a US Presidential Election and headlines around the the world blared, "The Majority of Americans Refused to Vote in US Presidential Election! What Does this Mean?"
Just the usual, annual load of malarkey
designed to show how our 'Dear Leaders' are doing something... about something. And caring.
Annual coverage of the Bilderberg Group might be more eye opening for the great unwashed (see Deplorables).
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Donald "The Child-Man" Trump™ nt
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
Trump is just a symptom...
That we are reduced, in a forum supposedly dedicated to opposition to the status quo, to applauding the acts of Angela Merkel is farcical. Merkel and her party's economic/social policy is what is creating hell in Europe and advancing the cause of Trumpism. Trump is a hollow vessel, a mediocrity of epic proportions; however, he is just a 'useful idiot,' propping up the right... Angela Merkel is compared to Donald Trump and the weak tea that is the Paris Climate Accord is suddenly a great step forward... it is, as the Germans say, Lacherlich.
The European right has been crushing the working people of Europe under the boot heel of Germany's export economy and EU/NATO expansionism. The Euro will collapse and when it does, Germany will follow Greece into economic chaos, and when that happens,God help us as the demons of European nationalism, climate change, economic dislocation and bigotry/racism are unleashed...
Trump is a fool, but that doesn't make the leadership of Europe wise and merciful, it just gives them cover to do their own self-interested viciousness...
Valid points, all.
The author posted an Aljazeera clip that fully resonated with that idea. The EU Neoliberals at the G20 have masterminded the social dislocation in Europe, as you say. But Merkel and her cohorts will forever be on the hook for the economic atrocities that are destabilizing the Union. Moreover, they seem to think we don't see their fake Russia paranoia and absurd Russian sanctions for what they really are: Cover for the unintended consequences that came as a result of their collaboration with the US Neocons in an insane NATO expansion in Ukrsine. We see it clearly. They are walking the razor's edge and the world is watching.
Americans are ridiculous in their ongoing Trump histrionics — as if Trump wasn't a self-induced condition — but Trumpism is not overarching here. Not at all. People have their eye on the ball, and their proposed solutions go to the heart of the matter, a place where Trump is utterly irrelevant.
Regarding the Paris Climate Accord, despite its legally non-binding nature, it is still deeply significant as a global intention, which is a very powerful construct. Consider this: Of all the countries in the world, there are only three that are not participating in the Paris Climate Accord — Syria, North Korea, and the United States. All three of them are nations that are sidelined under a dark shadow.
IMAGINE if you woke up the day after a US Presidential Election and headlines around the the world blared, "The Majority of Americans Refused to Vote in US Presidential Election! What Does this Mean?"
you know what I thought was the biggest
faux pas or mishap of Merkel's choices she made? I couldn't believe she dragged the participants of the G20 summit through a concert at the new Elbphilharmonie and made them listen to Beethoven's 9nth Symphonie with the with the final music choir singing "Joy to the World" after the words of Friedrich Schiller's poem.
OMG, I thought. Why did the poor folks have to endure that display of German 'trumping' culture? Trump 'behaved' and looked as if he slept through the performance. I just asked myself "what the heck is so joyful" about the issues that should have been discussed in detail and found solutions to. oh well, I guess what I am doing is what is called in German "Nestbeschmutzung" (foul one's own nest).
Just saying.
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To much information.
Is the ruling class losing control and much of what we are seeing an effort to stem the loss, and not an effort to find "good policy." Is that the motivation for the hyperbole around " all things Russian." Is the Overton Bubble about to burst?
"If we interpret the actions of the consensus inside the bubble in the context of their old hegemony, they make perfect sense. When media and universities had hegemonic control over the intellectual space, an effective, if destructive, tactic was to radicalize the thing a bit to flush out the insufficiently loyal, and then purge everyone who doesn't step in line. The heretics, thus exiled, would be doomed to wander the intellectual wasteland outside of the universities, and would not be able to organize any kind of counter-thought. Thus the Overton window occasionally shifting and expelling the "bigots" was an effective means of political control.
"Today, it is no longer effective; the expelled intellectuals go on thinking and publishing and working together, they just do it over the internet in an uncontrolled fashion. It's still weaker out here for the most part than inside the bubble, but that has been rapidly changing over the past few years, and we can expect the trend to continue. It is no longer effective because exclusion from the bubble, no matter how vigorous, is no longer intellectually fatal, and is even becoming liberating."
http://thefutureprimaeval.net/the-overton-bubble/
An interesting look at our current dilemma
Ian Welsh on Merkel
There Is No Major “Good” Government Leader
Then he talks about Putin and Corbyn and others, good article I think. This part I can relate to, wish I had better "sense" about:
solidarity
To me that article sounded at first glance like satire ...
but who knows, reading comprehension is not my strong suit.
That's not just Merkel. I don't know the details, but it feels like the whole EU then is profoundly evil. May be Jan Welsh' own judgements for putting our moral compass in the nether regions makes him feel like floating in the cloud 9 region. We all get our highs somewhere with something.
Just saying. The article doesn't convince me much. Poor people folks fear uncontrollable chaos more than evil Merkel and evil EU. Just my own observations and it doesn't reflect any understanding of what is going on around here in my EU-evil-land-people neighborhoods. I understand less and less the more I try to read and I distrust more and more. I definitely will read less now ...and try to trust more ...
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Too much G20
I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and procrastinate all at the same time.
LOL! n/t
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."