It's true. It's the Macedonians.
Up to 18 or so reasons why Shillary lost by her own words.
There is this though:
Who told them? Who were they coordinating with, or colluding with? Because the Russians historically in the last couple of decades and then increasingly, you know, are launching cyber attacks, and they are stealing vasts amounts of information, and a lot of the information they’ve stolen they’ve used for internal purposes, to affect markets, to affect the intelligence services, etc. So this is different because they went public, and they were conveying this weaponized information and the content of it, and they were running ... You know, there’s all these stories of guys over in Macedonia who are running these fake news sites and I’ve seen them now and you sit there and it looks like a sort of low-level CNN operation ...
https://www.recode.net/2017/5/31/15722218/hillary-clinton-code-conferenc...
Weaponized Information.
How cool is that?
What the hell have we ever done to f'g Macedonia?
You did notice that while the complaining about hacks and phishing no democrat has ever denied that the content of those correspondence was not true. Yeah, the DNC f'd Bernie. Yes, DWS slaved at the feet of HRC. Yes, Podesta rigged the media to the point that they checked their stories with him before they were published. Crap. All of it. Yet Russia. Do not pay attention that Russian and others were invited to the DNC Convention and given the Red Carpet treatment.... Move along. Nothing to see here.
All those in WI, PA, MI, were keyed in to Macedonia, which of course is why she lost.
Sheesh.
Comments
Pure projection on their part.
Funny how the wording more than a little implies that CNN is a high-level, professional fake-news operation, not low-level amateurs like those Macedonian guys.
I was going to vote for Her,
until I heard about Pizzagate.
Coverage from the Daily Mail.
We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.
How many $10,000s did Silicon Valley pay her to appear, I wonder
Or is she paying them for “prime-time whine time” now? So confusing.
@Azazello Nicely sums up the
Nicely sums up the absurdity of the premise. As a former campaign manager...well let's just say my forehead is red all the time now.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Best sentence ever:
"The loser began by saying ..."
LOL. This article made my day.
Sometimes
I just can't handle the sheer amount of crap that these people think we will believe.
Wait. I can't handle it but the PTB know full well that there decades long mission to completely fool the American people has worked. So the crap will just keep on coming; because the people will just keep on believin'.
Okay folks, we can forget it. The internet will soon be full of fast and slow lanes and all of us trying to wake people up will be relegated to those new slow lanes.
Barring a massive change (which may actually mean literal blood in the streets), it's all over except for the screaming.
Ain't depression grand?
Sigh.
Yaldabaoth, Saklas I'm calling you. Samael. You're not alone. I said, you're not alone, in your darkness. You're not alone, baby. You're not alone. "Original Sinsuality" Tori Amos
37%
It's worked on 37% of the population. According to numbers put out by Pew, an establishment institution, so if anything, it would be skewed up.
It's usually about 1/3 of the American population that's willing to buy total shit. Maybe a little higher; some of the Repubs who don't believe the Russia shit are not disbelieving because they are being rational, but because they are being loyal to a Republican administration. But probably less than 45% of the country buys the shit. The numbers keep breaking down in similar ways; for instance, 58% of the country despised Donald Trump on Election Day, and 60% of the country despised Hillary. You can generally rely (these days) on around 55-60% of the public being rational. It's not like after 9/11, nor even during the Reagan years, when those numbers were much worse.
Which, given that this is saturation-level propaganda, hammering on all levels, only lacking a Kim Jong il-style loudspeaker blaring it at all hours, kinda says something.
As for slow lanes, we need to have backup, or at least additional, systems of communication. We've known this was coming for years.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
They'll never take the internet successfully
it's too decentralized, and has too many possible options. The little Napoleons of the world have salivated over controlling the internet since its inception, but none can control it.
They can change our venues and methods, but that's about it.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
True.
I sometimes forget this. I, who have delved into TOR back when I had an actual computer. Hoping to get a real one again sometime in the future.
Yaldabaoth, Saklas I'm calling you. Samael. You're not alone. I said, you're not alone, in your darkness. You're not alone, baby. You're not alone. "Original Sinsuality" Tori Amos
Thanks.
37% is not as many people as I thought. This is a bit of sunshine in my mostly darkened life.
Dervish who responded to you that they will never take the internet successfully. That is true but, sometimes the stupidity or ignorance of people amazes me. Still, I hope we do find many other avenues of communication to keep this revolution going.
Sometimes, I just need to let my darkness out so that it doesn't consume me.
Yaldabaoth, Saklas I'm calling you. Samael. You're not alone. I said, you're not alone, in your darkness. You're not alone, baby. You're not alone. "Original Sinsuality" Tori Amos
f'g Macedonia is right!
Everything in the world has been f'd up since Philip the Great.
i have it on good authority that alexander made
the trains run on time.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
If he had trains
They would definitely have run on time. His phalanx were highly disciplined.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
You know of course
that you know too much History for your own good..
Heh!
Prof: Nancy! I’m going to Greece!
Nancy: And swim the English Channel?
Prof: No. No. To ancient Greece where burning Sapho stood beside the wine dark sea. Wa de do da! Nancy, I’ve invented a time machine!
Firesign Theater
Stop the War!
And there you go
Bought and paid for, from her own lips.
This was supposed to be in response to loltilizard above. Don't know why it's down here?
Prof: Nancy! I’m going to Greece!
Nancy: And swim the English Channel?
Prof: No. No. To ancient Greece where burning Sapho stood beside the wine dark sea. Wa de do da! Nancy, I’ve invented a time machine!
Firesign Theater
Stop the War!
A reply to me would have begun with “＠＃2.1” in the comment box
Did you see anything like that and inadvertently replace it, or type over it, perhaps?
why yes I did. tks
Prof: Nancy! I’m going to Greece!
Nancy: And swim the English Channel?
Prof: No. No. To ancient Greece where burning Sapho stood beside the wine dark sea. Wa de do da! Nancy, I’ve invented a time machine!
Firesign Theater
Stop the War!
In Caitlin's article
There's an embedded tweet from Assange that's just perfect.
Article is here.
Assange says:
AMEN!
@WaterLily That's kind of the point
That's kind of the point Henry Wallace has been making about the "Russia hack" all along. The crime here is hard to define--or perhaps, mainstream definitions of it are skewed. There was a technical crime, in that someone hacked into someone else's private information. But that invasion of privacy--or theft, if you like--has been presented, repeatedly, as the crime of election-rigging, which it is not--unless revealing accurate information about candidates to the public is now going to be considered election-rigging.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Oh, I'm 100% with you.
I've held the same opinion all along. Just wanted to highlight that Tweet, as it's the perfect response to Her (ongoing) bullshit.
She Truly. Never. Learns.
(Of course, no one who's already bought into the Russia crap will "hear" Assange's point; still, I'm glad he made it).
Caitlin's on fire lately!
I love her.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
At long last, Hillary Clinton,
will you please just SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO AWAY.
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We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.
Hillary needs a DNC intervention.
She is throwing everybody under the bus. Hillary does not fail; she can only be failed. And she may start getting some blow back. Among others she blamed the data team. Looks like one of the team members objected, but then deleted his tweet.
https://twitter.com/Jacob606/status/870206259869437952
@MrWebster Guess "f@ng BS" and
Guess "f@ng BS" and "You will NOT throw my team under the bus" Was just too, too much. Loyalty and Clinton and all...
Prof: Nancy! I’m going to Greece!
Nancy: And swim the English Channel?
Prof: No. No. To ancient Greece where burning Sapho stood beside the wine dark sea. Wa de do da! Nancy, I’ve invented a time machine!
Firesign Theater
Stop the War!
@MrWebster And this is the guy who
And this is the guy who evidently posted a nasty tweet about Seth Rich (you can see it in the comments to the first Tweet). Something about how a group of pandas is called an embarrassment.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
@MrWebster So if that guy is
So if that guy is getting fed up, then probably a lot of people are, even on the inside. That said, being fed up with Hillary is kind of status quo for insiders. They keep putting up with her anyway.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Her's comments was not a monologue
It was a diatribe. How low can She go? Now it's not only Russia that did Her in, it was also because the DNC did "nothing" to help Her get elected. Will this eventually end up in a cat fight between Her and DWS? If so, I'm buying tickets for the wet seats.
What a blatant liar - "17 agencies gave high confidence" the Russians worked against her. The truth is that only 4 agencies were involved of which 3 gave "high confidence". The fourth, the NSA, gave "moderate confidence" and this is the very agency which would have had the 'smoking gun'.
To date there has been no definitive proof the Russians were involved in the US elections. This also comes from the people who have been given special briefings of info that was "too secret" to give out in public.
@Azazello
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
That Loudon twit
is, to me, a prime example, both visually and verbally, of everything that is wrong with this country in so many ways. The scenery behind her, the fake eyelashes, the absolute look of entitlement, sickening. I don't know if she's from Cally or wherever, but she reminds me of why I hated growing up in Orange County, CA in so many ways. "They want the money" not even bright enough to acknowledge that both India and China are newer to the pollution than the good old USA. And jobs, as the excuse. How cynical does one have to be? End rant.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
And sickening performance from Hillary.
Narcissism at work, of course. She'll never give up, will she?
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
Done in by Macedonian teenagers. Pathetic.
Not sure why Macedonia is always mentioned by the democrats as the center of the Russian fake news center as that was debunked. It was bunches of younger people including teenagers working the internet to get clicks and income. The city where the fake stories was coming out has been doing crap like this for a sometime, and saw some opportunities during the American elections.
I don't have the link, but I remember one article said the teenagers found that faking out Bernie Sander sites didn't do that well, as nobody was clicking on Bernie fake stories. I guess his supporters knew bullshit when they saw it.
http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/the-surge-of-pro-trump-fake-...
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38168281
The city getting rich from fake news
I just read that article with the quote about Bernie supporters
in Wired magazine where one of the teenage Macedonian masterminds said Bernie supporters didn't bite at the fake news.
INSIDE THE MACEDONIAN FAKE-NEWS COMPLEX
This is a very good article, especially for people like me who have been blocking out this story and don't know the background of this Macedonia hysteria. And even more so for those who actually believe these kids were an organized effort to affect the election, or that they actually tipped the election. Ridiculous.
Honestly, I didn't think my opinion of Hillary Clinton could get any worse, but I was wrong. Every time she emerges now to spew more bullshit excuses and blame and ridiculous lies, I find that my disgust and hatred of her are not yet at full capacity. Much as I despise Trump, which is a lot, I'm still glad she lost.
Thanks for link.
If anything, this all proves again what a horrible candidate Clinton was.
Why do you think my name is now
Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal?
LMFAO
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
So it was YOU who fucked over Hillary's campain
Congratulations. How much do we owe you? Will you take dollars or do we have to get rubles from the bank?
BTW, did Putin invite you to do dinner with him at the Kremlin when he gave you the Medal of Friendship?
@CB Oh, shit. I was just
Oh, shit. I was just being snarky, but you know what? I bet there IS somebody out there asinine enough to think that my handle means I was involved in the spreading of Hillary fake news because I'm part of the dastardly Eastern Bloc which is in service to the terrible Soviet Union...
wait a minute....
I feel like I'm remembering something about 1989....
Ah, well, it was probably nothing.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
@CB As Gore Vidal once
As Gore Vidal once said, Mangiare (would that it were so).
You wouldn't have had to pay me, apart, perhaps, from a few rounds of celebratory drinks at whatever cool local bar you could come up with (do we still have those in this country)? Sadly, though, I actually haven't got the resources to fuck over Hillary Clinton's campaign.
That was done by someone with billions in donations, so I hear.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
The only one I know with that kind of money
is Hillary herself.
@CB Ya got me!
Ya got me!
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
As my massage therapist, who is from Poland, said:
"Macedonia? Macedonians hacked the election? How many people are in Macedonia, ten?"
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Twelve. But only ten know how to use Facebook and Twitter
@CB LMAO
LMAO
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I read this comment on the dailymail article.
How appropriate is this.
And isn't there a saying about "everything after the BUT ?
Sure it isn't, Hillary.
The article is spot on.
Apparently, Hillary should keep talking about the election, because look what happened to Gore and Kerry.
Yep, those two elections are the same as Russia interfering with the election., right?
Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
Hillary, you are right. I was influenced for who I voted for
Not by the Russians, fake news or anything else.
I remembered what you and Bill did to the poor people, Blacks, and FOR the financial institutions and the rich people. That's why I didn't want you anywhere near the WH ever again. You two did enough damage to this country and the world during his tenure and yours when you were SOS.
Haven't enough people died because of your warmongering and your policies? I think so.
Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
If Bulgaria had come up trumps via WWII
Those Macedonians would be Bulgarian, enjoying the beneficence of His Majesty, Tsar Simeon II.
Greater Bulgaria
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Based upon this,
I might actually be Macedonian.
What sort of transformation must basic information undergo in order to become "weaponized"? How do I know if my information is weaponized or not, and if so, whether it's loaded? (we all have inadvertently uttered a loaded phrase or two).
Can I be arrested for assault with a deadly word if I insult someone badly enough?
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
@dervish Well, Hillary would know
Well, Hillary would know about weaponized information.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver