There I Did It Again - Seth Rich
I promised myself that I would not write any more about the Seth Rich case unless I saw concrete evidence. Well, like a leaky faucet, it just keeps drip, drip, dripping, so I am breaking my promise to myself.
I monitor Twitter every day as part of maintaining our (Caucus 99%) Twitter account. It can be a time suck which it has become, but also it can be a valuable tool in keeping up with the latest news and views. Most of this essay is based upon the latter.
There were several very interesting tweets today so I am going to highlight them for you and let you decide if this is worth discussing.
Let's begin with the latest Kim Dotcom tweet and letter to the family of Seth Rich rebutting some very shaky allegations that were made by the Rich family. I do want to emphasize that I am not even sure that these letters and statements reflect the Rich family's true feelings because they sound far more like public relations releases than heartfelt statements from a grieving family. For the life of me, I have never seen a family that did not want to know every bit of information in finding the killer of a loved one. It is almost like the Rich family has become prisoners of the DNC who has hired their acting spokesperson.
Seth Rich's dad says Brad Baumann was assigned to them by the DNC and he has no idea why. pic.twitter.com/91WopIDngg
— Paul Joseph Watson (@PrisonPlanet) May 25, 2017
There were a number of accusations in the Rich family letter that made Kim Dotcom publish his response, including a threat of legal action.
Along a parallel line, Sean Hannity had jumped upon the Seth Rich story and was pushing hard for a reopening of the investigation into his murder and the connection to Wikileaks. There has been a huge amount of pressure being put on Fox and the sponsors of Hannity's show to remove their sponsorship if he does not drop the Seth Rich story. This is very telling because Hannity has been a reliable attack dog upon the Democrats and has been given free rein to do so by Fox. Then yesterday Hannity decided to drop the Seth Rich story.
First the Rich family and now Sean Hannity. This is the deep state at work.
Sean Hannity's dropping of the Seth Rich story led to two interesting tweets by Julian Assange today.
(1/2) On @SeanHannity: regardless of the politics no one should be cheering advertisers controlling the parameters of acceptable debate.
— Julian Assange (@JulianAssange) May 25, 2017
(2/2) We take any allegation that an alleged source has come to harm seriously. Murder should not be downplayed or instrumentalized.
— Julian Assange (@JulianAssange) May 25, 2017
A number of well known commentators have weighed in on this including H A Goodman.
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And finally, this wonderful video summarizes it all as to why this case has become so important to the powers that be. And the duopoly is alive and well even in this case. If you read or watch only one link, this is the one. The video is in the link.
Powerful summation on why #SethRich "investigation" should terrify all. Please get this out to everyone. Via: @Black_Pilled pic.twitter.com/CQpEDyz7He
— Missy America (@Missy_America) May 24, 2017
So there it is today.
Comments
You would think that someone out there
could corroborate or validate that the DNC was leaked and not hacked. We need a leaker from Wikileaks at this point.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
I do understand that goes against
everything they are though, I don't see them doing it. And I agree with Goodman, Assange has done all he dares do and not completely violate the thing he stands for and has paid for dearly.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
The thing that would almost certainly break this DNC hacking
fable are the DNC's servers and computers. That they have been "requested" and not subpoenaed after so many months shows a deliberate delay in getting to the bottom of the story. Cryptanalysis of the DNC hardware would certainly reveal any "hacks" if there were some. Why has the FBI allowed the DNC to withhold their computers from the investigation and why hasn't the FBI been more vigorous in seizing such hardware? The whole thing has been smelling of cover-up since the first accusations "the Russians did it", a claim which has no more validity than "the dog ate my homework".
The dog ate my homework indeed!
Who has ever heard of an organization that refuses to release its records to the FBI? What kind of wasda (influence) does someone have to have in order to be immune to an FBI probe? The whole mess stinks. A simple review of DNC records would likely show that this was a leak, and not a hack, but we can't say that, because it doesn't support the cause of global war.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
The FBI is not your friend --
Oops, hit save, not blockquote. If there is no subpoena, there should be no compliance. Never cooperate with the Feebs, always resist. That is the only way to defend your rights.
If there is a subpoena, also resist, for the same reason. And, persons, organizations and firms that have followed this behavior pattern are very numerous.
The DNC is a bunch of assholes, but they still should stonewall the Feebs, we all should, all of the time.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
@enhydra lutris I'm not really OK
I'm not really OK with any part of the three-tiered "justice" system we have, including the fact that rich people and politicians can tell the FBI to stick it, while the rest of us will be guilty if somebody powerful says we are (thank you, 2011 defense spending bill!)
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Good advice . . .
for anyone under investigation. For someone reporting a crime, not so much.
@dervish What kind of leverage
What kind of leverage? Well, they could be best buddies with the CIA...
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Yeah.
So well said:
This is why I think Comey's firing has something to do with the timing of Dotcom coming forward. Comey is what I call the pillow man. He makes things quietly smother and go away.
Re: DNC servers have been "requested" and not subpoenaed
Yeah, speaking of that, Rep. Blake Fernthold actually said on CNN “There’s still some question as to whether the intrusion of the DNC server was an insider job or whether or not it was the Russians,”
He went on to state that he believes the feds need to look at this because no investigation has ever looked at the DNC computers or servers.
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Farenthold gets in to the debunking at about 0:33.
The looks on those anchors faces when he said it might be an insider job was priceless. John Berman is like "Whoa whoa wait a minute" and shaking his hand and Poppi Harlow just sits there with this deer in the headlights look.
I grabbed a screen shot and just had to make a meme.
Good ole Clinton News Network
Yeah, why ever talk about get legally mandated access to DNC computers rather than blather about anonymous sources? Hummina, hummina, hummina...
One thing that puzzles me
aside from the whole conspiracy business, is the attitude of the family, or the suggested attitude of the family.
Granted, I know nothing about them, but why persist with a DNC handler, if you really don't want or need the handler? Are they forced to persist with the handler?
The case appears to have gone cold. Does that infuriate them? It would infuriate me.
Like I say, I really haven't being paying a lot of attention to the case, but working on/solving the murder would at least be something for his family, regardless of the DNC leak.
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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
There is likely
some very intense and serious gaslighting happening there.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Yes, and the Rich family
is being put in a very difficult position. They are likely loyal Democrats, and not at all inclined to believe that their son would be involved in sabotaging the Party. Not without substantial evidence anyway. And of course Brad Bauman would be doing everything in his (probably considerable) power to convince them that no such evidence exists.
native
Not to mention
that if the Party is that ruthless, you're just as vulnerable as your son was. Either way, you may tend to lower your head when Bauman shows up.
Well, yes.
I think I might tend to err on the side of caution too, if I were in their shoes.
native
Fox not allowing Hannity to bash Hillary?
Yeah, something stinks very badly here.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
Rich's parents in their own words.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
This video was before
the DNC got to them.
This video is how I believe they really feel.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
So much the better.
Just makes the statements currently attributed to them by their 'spokesman' sound all the more suspicious.
First they murder a guy for disloyalty.
Now they've taken his family hostage to keep them quiet.
If there's a sliver of difference between the DNC and the mafia, I'm at a loss to see it.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Do they have a lawyer?
Granted, lawyers are expensive, but hoping beyond hope that others will find the truth, doesn't sound much of a plan/way forward.
Am I wrong in thinking they seem rather, well,... dense?
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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
The family has a gofundme site
Here's the link: https://www.gofundme.com/SethRich
Obviously the DNC is not providing them with a lawyer or investigator. Just a PR hack.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
@Steven D OMFG. that's a really
OMFG. that's a really good point.
They send a marketing guy whose specialty is putting out fires. FFS.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
H A Goodman's latest video
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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
If they shut up Fox and Hannity
I know there are huge organizational changes going on at Fox. Wouldn't it be funny if MSNBC turned into Fox and Fox into MSNBC - not that MSNBC was ever very liberal. They fired everyone that went off script: Donahue, Ventura, Cenk, Ed Schultz, and the list goes on. I will check it all out.
Thank you for taking Twitter over. You are doing a much better job with it than I did.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
They have to renew their FCC licenses every year.
Much is based on how they tell the news. Congress and the MIC have a stake in the narrative.
Like our other natural resources, the people do not make a dime off of the broadcast spectrum they own. The resource has been privatized to the monopolies to control. All we get out of the deal is one obligatory hour of news per day, and even that is interrupted by ads so the networks can profit from our viewership. The special interest advertisers help keep the talent on message.
IMAGINE if you woke up the day after a US Presidential Election and headlines around the the world blared, "The Majority of Americans Refused to Vote in US Presidential Election! What Does this Mean?"
Thank you.
Very open and honest.
With the exception of themselves, nobody can know their true feelings.
Unknown and unproven. This is an example of a view.
I still say thanks. You've brought forth the perfect example of a personal view, tying in your thoughts and the conglomeration of the thoughts of others. It's at the very least a discussion and not a journalistic piece.
I, for one, will not judge upon personal views. The truth is out there.
I'm a patient man.
Peace.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Let's just say Columbo
wouldn't have needed two parts to solve this. No "to be continued..." required. Same with Kojack. Just one lolipop would have done it. The world must be laughing at our incompetent FBI, clueless DC's Finest.
What little to none evidence there is strongly suggests a hit. I would be shocked to find out otherwise.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
I want to emphasize a couple of points
This is something I stated in a previous essay. I think we need to separate out the issues involving Seth Rich's murder.
1) Who murdered Seth Rich?
2) Why was Seth Rich murdered?
There is no way any of us have an answer to these two questions and I have tried to avoid speculating in that regard.
3) Was Seth Rich the Wikileaks source for the bulk of the emails published? This has been the question I have tried to focus upon because I believe we have a lot of evidence that indicates this to be true. Julian Assange's tweets practically scream that this is the case. If so, it is the one thing that destroys the Russia narrative.
The fact that no one wants to talk about Seth being the Wikileaks source and the powers that be are doing everything they can to suppress it, scares me to death. These sociopaths want a war with Russia at all costs.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
They want to use nukes
in order to justify the need for having them. They want to justify the $trillion over ten years they plan to spend on modernizing them and making them more useable.
After Gorbachev and Reagan agreed to dismantle them, the industry has done everything they can to promote the necessity of having them, but Pakistan and gangs with box cutters just doesn't make it seem necessary. Only Vlad has the power to knee-jerk us.
Seth doesn't even need to be
the actual Wikileaks source for the DNC emails. He was an expert on voter data and managed a DNC group dealing with voter data. That's been on my mind for months.
Plus in an interview, Craig Murray was speculating about Seth Rich with Scott Horton and he speculated about how the DNC might "think" he was the source.
In early July, we're talking about a very paranoid and panicked DNC and Dem operatives. So I guess I'm saying, Seth actually being the source of DNC emails isn't a deal maker/breaker for me.
Also, Kim dot com said in the letter on his web site that Seth was "involved" in the DNC email leak. Which is a change from what he said on Twitter days earlier.
Thank you for saying this.
I agree. Seth Rich's connection to the lawsuit that was filed the week he was killed is more compelling for me than his possible connetion to Wikileaks.
Assange has said about Seth Rich's death:
Seth may have been killed because he was a potential witness in the lawsuit against the DNC over exit polling. Assange may be interested in who killed him because his sources see whoever killed him as dangerous to their lives as well.
Well, the key for me
is that if the leaks were internal, then it is much harder for them to claim Russia did it. Right now everything is pointing to Seth Rich. There may have been more than one leaker, in fact.
Plus the part that frosts me to no end is that the DNC is private entity. They have been arguing this point on the motion to dismiss in the DNC fraud lawsuit. So why the hell is everyone in DC pushing for war with Russia, even if it was the Russians? That is like pushing for war if the Russians hacked my emails and published them. Good reading for those with insomnia. LOL
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
@gulfgal98 If there is more
If there is more than one leaker, and one is still unidentified, I can understand why Assange would be taking great care in what he said.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
@gulfgal98 The other point
The other point to be made is the argument Henry has been making from the beginning: let's stop talking about WHO committed the crime and start talking about WHAT the crime is.
Releasing accurate information about a candidate and her party may or may not "influence an election," but it's never been considered a crime before, much less a cause for going to war.
I realize that the DNC and John Podesta may not appreciate how the information was acquired, but if it is accurate information about a candidate and her campaign, putting it into the public sphere during campaign season used to be known as "campaigning."
If they want to condemn something, the proper course would be to condemn, not the political action of "interfering with the election" by revealing accurate information to the public, but rather to condemn the technical action of accessing that data. In which case, the issue would not be whether or not the data "interfered with the election" but would rather be whether or not the data was accessed by someone who had no right to do so.
The fact that they're focusing on (mostly unproven) political effects AS THE CRIME IN QUESTION is extremely disturbing. I've been joking about how opposition researchers had better watch their backs in future; I'm not altogether kidding about that.
If telling the truth to the public about candidates is improper interference with elections, that means the electoral process is everything that our most cynical members have been saying it is: a corrupt process of installing pre-chosen candidates without regard for the public will.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
THANK YOU!
You rock.
@Linda Wood Thanks.
Thanks.
the signal continues to broadcast
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
He was in charge of the voter registration software...
which put him in a unique and dangerous position of witnessing all the shenanigans with the NGPVAN system.
From the NH primary database freeze out, to the deregistering of hundreds of thousands of Berners in the NYC boroughs, to the vote replacement scheme in DC (complete with phony parallel polling stations), and most likely plenty of other election fraud felonies we still don't know about, the guy simply knew way too much.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
@Not Henry Kissinger Poor guy. I hate
Poor guy. I hate how much I'm identifying with him. As someone who worked in campaign politics, albeit at a much lower level, this all cuts a little too close to the bone.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
He was one of us.
I know the Trumpsters are all over his to protect his Hairness, but for a lot Berners I think this case is far more personal.
I know it is for me.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Just speaking for myself.
But, if it walks like a duck...
I get the need here to be more-than-cautious, lest anyone get the idea this site is an Alex Jones spinoff, but if this turns out to be a bungled robbery I'd be shocked and awed.
As far as I'm concerned this is a Joe Biden BFD. The fight between good and TPTB, and one "we" must win. If most Americans turn out believing that this story is bogus, and consequently end up believing Russia stole the election, then we can kiss 2018 and 2020 goodbye.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
We might have to kiss
a lot more than a couple of elections goodbye. Like, whatever disappears in thermonuclear war.
I doubt this will
lead to war w/ Russia, let alone nucular (Dubya) war. This Russia nonsense was nothing more than wagging the dog to take blame (for the HRC loss) away from where it lay - with the DNC - who botched the election by running Hillary. But then, the Trumpster doesn't need much of an excuse to unleash the nukes, so...
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
@Wink
I really don't think so. I think "the blob" (national security/foreign policy apparatus) decided to get regime change in Syria soon at almost any cost, and anything can used as an excuse to further that end.
So, then, there is
no DNC-Russia-Hillary connection. Seth simply the victim, apparently, of a botched robbery.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
Means, Motive, and Opportunity.
The Clintonistas had all three.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
And we might well never know.
Why were we really in Viet Nam, all of the reasons, not one or two?
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Hannity is definitely a Tell
Considering the RW Media has long pushed theories on Vince Foster and "the Clinton Hit List", I can't understand why Seth Rich would be a step too far. I'm not a fan of Hannity, but it's hard for me to just accept the push back now at face value.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
It was hard to see
just how deep this was until the Hannity thing. Hannity is contrary to anything I believe in, but I will give him this. He is a bulldog and for him to pull back this fast shows me just how much the deep state wants this story killed.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
I agree with both
you and Dr. John Carpenter. But if the story that Fox ran about a federal investigator having seen Rich's laptop was false, if it was planted to discredit the whole Wikileaks connection to Seth Rich, then I can see why it would be wise for Fox to back off of it. I can't believe they'll stay away from the whole subject.
And I agree with you about Hannity. I have seen very little of him, but I did see him grill John McCain pretty aggressively about whether or not the "moderates" he met with in Syria were for real. And Hannity was open about having been a recipient of hoax anthrax mailings before 9/ll, before he was barred from talking about it, not by his employers, but by the FBI.
One small point
The original Fox story about the federal investigator having seen the laptop was broken on a local Fox station, not on the network.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Thank you,
I didn't know it's original source in that sense. But they reported it, and if they have since learned it was false or unverifiable, I can see why they would back off now.
I want to be clear that if it was false, I don't think Fox knew that when they reported it.
@Dr. John Carpenter Because the CIA wants the
Because the CIA wants the war with Russia, and the "Russia hack" is being touted as the reason for our hostile posture toward Russia.
I guess the Crimea story isn't working as well.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
All avenues
The "Crimea story" is still out there and being pushed as God's-own-truth. On my way to a haircut an hour ago, and listening to NPR on the car radio, I heard the good liberals at NPR stating it once again -- as if the Russians invaded Crimea, occupied it, and won't leave (in that order). This was stated as everybody-knows-it factual and occurred during the top-of-the-hour news. I was screaming at the radio, of course...
In another post here today(?), I read someone postulate that Fox News is becoming MSNBC, and that MSNBC is becoming Fox. Stranger things may indeed have happened, but that transposition isn't too far off the mark.
Thank you
for yelling at the radio. I can't even listen to any of their broadcasts anymore because of this delusion. When was the CIA rehabilitated? When did they become a reliable source?
@Linda Wood We've always been
We've always been at war with Eastasia. That's one answer.
The other is that, once you decide one enemy is an apocalyptic evil, siding with anybody else against him is acceptable. Like allying with Stalin to defeat Hitler. Therefore, since Trump is an apocalyptic evil, siding with the CIA against him is acceptable.
The problem is that I don't actually believe that the CIA is my ally, and actually, they seem to be a worse threat to America and the world than Donald Trump is, given that they and other agencies like them are the ones who are keeping the current political system of power relations in place, and that system persistently produces not just undesirable, but potentially apocalyptic policy outcomes.
Further, I don't really get why Donald Trump is a more apocalyptic threat than George W. Bush was; if anything, I think Bush was a worse threat. As for Obama, sadly I think he and Trump are about neck-and-neck.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
That video was chilling.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
no one should be cheering advertisers controlling the parameters
said Julian Assange. So FlushRush is the Deep State too? I think it was a guy from dailykos started that "advertiser controlling the parameters" method of protest, against the right-wing. huh Here it is being turned toward another righty talker, this time saying words that I appreciate being said out loud. huh
Keep going gulfgal98, thanks a lot. Thanks for following twitter, I don't but I will be forced to this year finally. It is the only way to get timely updates on fire conditions any more. Everything public is going private in deep blue california it seems no one gives a shit anymore, oh well.
For-profit hired for Sonoma County Jail inmates’ mental health
Because for-profit healthcare is doing so great now? For who, Dems? Do tell. Oh, for the profit-takers, duh. All others get brioche. Speaking of cake, I did gain some weight back hodge-packing carbs, not very healthy but what do I know? Nada. Nada lotta money for balanced diet, that's what. lol
Flush Rush versus Hannity
I see these two things as being quite different. Flush Rush was or began as a grass roots movement to get Limbaugh off the air because of his wide body of work and hate mongering. Advertisers began to see him as a losing proposition. The big difference is that Hannity has been pressured by Fox and several sponsors to stop talking about the Seth Rich case. In other words, he is being muzzled on this one issue. Hannity has said he will continue to gather evidence on his own about the case even if he does not talk about it on his show.
It was followed by this tweet.
We are living in truly bizarre times.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Flush Rush.
I signed every single petition to flush him that I could get my hands on. And I made real sure my Rush loving mother knew all about that. I hate that idiot.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
It is way older than Daily Kos.
Anita Bryant & Florida Orange Juice comes to mind, but that wasn't the first either.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
@eyo It would be better, far
It would be better, far better, if advertisers (also known as capitalism) didn't control the boundaries of public discourse. Given that they do, sometimes people try to make use of that fact to push hatemongers aside; personally, I prefer to shout back.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal
Personally, I don't think of Flush Rush as being any different than people pressuring grocery stores to not carry unlabelled GMOs; in both cases, public pressure is being used on commercial entities to add their pressure in the attempt at the stopping of their supporting/promoting/participating in poisoning the public because their 'representative government' won't.
The public uses what they can and the united force of a large chunk of the public (and their individually tiny pocket-books) often works, when their government - rather than acting with the united force of the public to protect the public good - sacrifices the public good for the personal gain of various of the officials/parties.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
IBTimes article: an email invitation = hacking now? wow
No wonder the DNC thinks they were hacked. Do they even know that more than half of all email is unsolicited spam? Get a technical clue! They are killing us with their ignorance, maybe some nuke will get exploded because of the idiocracy in charge. Ceiling Cat help us, more electrolytes, stat!
wtf? I got one of those invitations too, they were splattered everywhere, but at first "only a selected few". Um, marketing 101? Is why dotcom has obscene wealth by the way, selling his services. Combo of smart tech and smarter marketing. Which "experts" did they hear from on the subject? The Awans? lol Just in case anyone was wondering about spams stats: http://www.spamlaws.com/spam-stats.html
Thanks Outlook, thanks Microsoft, thanks Gates. All of have to do is search X-Mailer headers on every piece of garbage, always outlook or outlook express. We used to call it Outhouse Express when I was "certifiable", lol MCSE. Must Consult Someone Else, those were my peers. I wonder if North Korea has "licensed" versions of Windows or are they all back-doored, or both? Did they get the "free" upgrade to Windows10 forced on them like the rest of the globe? lol
Now there is Oulook365 why not. ~shrug~ All your (cloud) base are belong to them. Same owners of LinkedIn too, so all your workbase are belong to them now as well. Good luck trying to raise wages or organize sheeple to resist that borg. Good luck.
Podesta was likely Phished
Back before the RUSSIARUSSIARUSSIA hysteria, when the emails were first leaked, the general consensus was that Posedta fell for a bog standard phishing email scam. For instance, here's one article on the subject:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/14/dnc-hillary-clinton-emai...
That's from December, but I remember hearing that story earlier, like around the time the dump happened. I also remember hearing he'd emailed his iCloud password around (which was Runner1234 IIRC) which in the dump and then allowed interested parties access to even more info. I think it was something like 12 days between that hitting the Internet and him actually changing his password.
The story goes deeper than that, but I deal with the field of Internet security enough (and have a lot of experience dealing with entitled CEO syndrome)to be pretty convinced Podesta anyway got caught by a phishing email and had been sloppy with emailing his (weak) password for other accounts around so it was available too. The entitled CEO part is that no one wants to 'fess up that they got taken. I've dealt with this time and time again where somehow a "bad guy" magically gets access to someone's account and I can trace it back to right where the person opened a phishing email and gave their info away.
(The one small sliver of defense I can say is that at least among the people I work with, they seem to think that hacking and phishing are interchangeable. They aren't. The outcome may be similar, but to over simplify, one is passive and the other active on the part of the user. However, in this case, I'm just not willing to give that benefit of the doubt. The blurring of lines seems more intentional and willful than just a common confusion of terms, especially when so much emphasis is on making this fit the Russian narrative already in progress.)
With Rich though, I'm still leaning more towards he leaked this stuff himself. I won't be surprised if the narrative spins towards he was either phished or hacked (by RUSSIANS, of course) if the DNC can't control the story.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
"entitled CEO syndrome" ding ding ding
thanks for that thoughtful reply, and boy that phrase is gonna stick in my lint trap now. Way to turn the "entitlement" canard around up there, good one.
peace
I can't take credit
"Entitled CEO Syndrome" is a term I hear tossed around a lot in the IT world, usually in reference to things like...say...someone insisting on circumventing security protocols by using a unsecured mobile devices in a heavily locked down area or using a private server with questionable security for classified communications. Usually the reasoning is that the security is just too inconvenient for the person in question (i.e. rules are for little people) and they're too damned important to trifle with security measures. Of course, these are almost always the least technological savvy people in the first place and their importance to the organization makes them a perfect target for anyone with malicious intent.
I'm sure the term has been used in other fields as well, but this is the kind of stuff that makes us in the IT field pull our hair out because when something happens (like Sony's big data breach,) we're the ones blamed, fired or left to clean up. But if you look closely enough, there's almost always an a trail of people who felt they needed to shortcut security measures and an IT department who has been trying to warn people for months before anything happened that they were vulnerable. From the private servers on down, I keep seeing signs of this type of thinking and it can't help but influence my take on this whole thing.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
Hillary::cough::Hillary
@eyo The DNC has taken a leak
The DNC has taken a leak, a hack, and a successful phishing attempt, and lumped them together in one big bag labelled "INTERNET THINGS THE DNC DOESN'T LIKE"
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
You forgot the second part to that
...and Russia DID it!
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
@gulfgal98 OMG--the subject
OMG--the subject line of that post ended up being:
The DNC has taken a leak
SNORT!
Yes, I'm 11.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
@gulfgal98 Of course.
Of course.
Thing is, if Wikileaks is "Russian Wikileaks," how can that translate into "Russia hacking the DNC?" Wouldn't it be, instead, "Russia contacted an insider and got him to leak information?"
Doesn't ANYBODY but me remember the Cold War? Jesus, even the shitty lying memes were better back then.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Say his name. Say his name. FB, twitter.
Keep this going. There is a backstory.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
“What is more likely? Russia hacking election or Seth Rich hit?”
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJznJsCs6YY]
Nice follow-up to my outlook rant
perfect
Never heard of Uncle Hotep before, nice to hear technical clue from the masses, that was great. Thanks.
peace
the clintons, bring you this shiite
and it never ends, conspiracy my ass.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-25/twitter-suspends-wnd-seth-rich-...
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Some things about
the latest Seth story have me conflicted and doubtful but I can't disagree with anything here, gulfgal, and the MSM response and shutdown of certain voices is stunning and telling.
I do think there are some people trying to muddy the waters or discredit others too. I'm worried about some of the infighting on the Left. Reminds me of the ratf-king at dkos when a viable dissent faction was on the rise circa 2010 and beyond. That really threw me for a loop. But the lesson learned, for me at least, was to not let that distract or bog us down. Keep moving forward. Ignore provocateurs. Tell the truth. Don't be divided. Don't get bogged down in the drama and infighting.
@gulfgal98
Good work, both here and on Twitter.
Anyone who doubts that this was a hit job, has way more skepticism than I do. Seth Rich was made an example of. His family is now hostage.
We all need to say this man's name over and over. Until too many people are asking the right questions.
Yes, we must keep the Seth Rich story going. Good essay here:
https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/why-you-should-definitely-keep-talking-about-seth-rich-7880f4dbb198
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK | "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine." - G. B. Shaw Bernie/Tulsi 2020
@ZimInSeattle
Thanks so much for posting this! Just going to quote a small but essential portion from your link:
https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/why-you-should-definitely-keep-talkin...
Caitlin Johnstone
Rogue Journalist
May 24
Why You Should Definitely Keep Talking About Seth Rich
Links to: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2013EF000205/full
This is what they're playing viciously destructive and reality-disconnected power-games with.
Not just our lives, but all life, and not just with the nukes and other nuclear hazard and existing damage but with the unrestrained cost-cutting-for-increased-profit industrial polluting of life and overall stable, time-tested, heritable genetic heritage derived and refined through, and enabling, evolution,
including the pollutants and health/life-destructive hazards of 'geo-engineering', also intentionally further dimming essential-to-life and already pollution-reduced sunlight, weakening not only plant but other life, increasing susceptibility to illness, while damaging and ultimately destroying the normally effective protection the intact ozone layer provided us and the rest of life from deadly solar radiation
and the pointlessly destructive military testing which has been harming, crippling and killing vast tracts of already dwindling ocean and other life.
I have always felt that true evil was anti-life - and now I am seeing pure evil taking over the planet for a profitable and universal death for what will be nothing, that being all that will remain alive.
To expand upon what Caitlin has said, let's not let it happen by allowing ourselves to be conned into accepting any more of any of it in silence, in case the perpetrators destroying the planet call us nasty names and try to make us look silly?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
^^^This!^^^
This should be an essay in itself. Excellent comment.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy