Hillary will now officially lead the McResistance
Give the Republicans some credit.
At least the GOP could maintain some thin, superficial appearance of a grassroots movement.
The Democrats are completely unable to do the same.
Onward Together is dedicated to advancing the vision that earned nearly 66 million votes in the last election. By encouraging people to organize, get involved, and run for office, Onward Together will advance progressive values and work to build a brighter future for generations to come.
The good news is that you can donate to Hillary's McResistance on that web site.
#Resistance #McResistance #HillaryClinton
Save us from the evil Progressives Hillary! pic.twitter.com/loYGdcbWeh— Bern'dluminati (@grassrootsify) May 12, 2017
It's not that we should criticize the Dems too much.
After all, they are wise enough to learn from the GOP playbook.
The Tea Party, a Koch-backed rightwing insurgent, captured the Republican Party in the wake of Obama’s 2008 electoral victory.Indivisibility seems a replay, but from the left. It is helping to facilitate “groups taking indivisible action.” Originally developed by Democrats to mirror Tea Party organizing policies, it is designed to promote local activities preparing for the next Congressional elections. The group claims that “more than 4,500 local groups have signed up to resist the Trump agenda in nearly every congressional district in the country.”
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She needs a better marketing group for slogans.
How fuzzy, and not in a warm way.
Let her ride or sail into a sunset, please!
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
Riding her broomstick!
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
@The Voice In the Wilderness My last reply was empty
My last reply was empty, not because I had nothing to say, I muffed it.
Shame on you. Recommending a broomstick without naming the make and model.
These are THE CLINTONS.
Not just any witch broomstick would do for these folks moving up to the class of billionaires
Those who are sucking the tit of the Ham to support the Zionist apartheid
You are on the computer. Do a GOOGLE search for the right kind of broomsticks
I am not going to do this elementary work for you.
Firebolt 2017
Nothing but the best for Her!
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
@The Voice In the Wilderness My last reply was empty
My last reply was empty, not because I had nothing to say, I muffed it.
Shame on you. Recommending a broomstick without naming the make and model.
These are THE CLINTONS.
Not just any witch broomstick would do for these folks moving up to the class of billionaires
Those who are sucking the tit of the Ham to support the Zionist apartheid
You are on the computer. Do a GOOGLE search for the right kind of broomsticks
I am not going to do this elementary work for you.
@riverlover
Ugh
Double ugh. I feel nauseated.
And CNN and WaPo are reporting breaking News that Trump revealed "highly classified" info to the Russian ambassador (apparently a code word regarding info obtained about ISIS). Real hair on fire stuff according to Wolf Blitzer.
So this is a double bad horrible no good day.
Thank god Better Call Saul is on tonight.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
I don't know how much stock I'd put in that story.
The National Security Advisor was present and claims nothing was said that was not public info.
It was a meeting at which a very limited number of people were present. Who among them would have leaked this explosive story to media? Trump? The Russians? The translator, if any?
Trump himself confirmed it in a tweet
This is pretty mind-blowing. From what I'm hearing this morning, the biggest issue is that it wasn't information that originated within our own IC, it came from elsewhere, where, I don't know and that source is the one to be concerned about, i.e that they may suffer consequences due to the divulgement or that this source will stop sharing info with us since we have a President more concerned about impressing his Russian guests with his "great intel" than he is with being discreet with state secrets.
"I get great intel". It sounds like he's bragging about artisan cheese for one of his hotels, for chrissakes!
" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "
That tweet does not say that he gave them
Russians info that was so highly classified that even our closest allies should not know it. That is the claim and that tweet does not confirm that claim. That tweet doesn't even confirm sharing any kind of classified info. However, we've been sharing classified anti-terrorism info with other nations for years. Sharing with other nations info about preventing terrorism on international flights seems understandable.
Besides, like it or not, he was elected President and the President is the ultimate authority with respect to what is done with classified information.
I try to remember that Trump ticked off both the FBI and the CIA even before he took office--and the media-- and I fully expect all three to undermine and embarrass him in any way they can. Not that he needs much help in that regard.
Five Eyes has a bug in the Oval Office
It's been there for years. John-John discovered it. Unfortunately, it was too late for JFK. The damage had already been done. History was never the Trumpeter's strong suit.
I've seen that pic so many times and never noticed
John John was wearing a robe. Awww. The nanny probably brought him down to say good night to daddy.
All I've Been Able to Get Is That He Named the City From Which
the intel originated, .
That's the big treasonous transgression, as far as I know, and it doesn't sound treasonous to me.
Look, the US just banned Laptops in the cabin of planes. That's a HUGE regulatory move. It will cost important people lots of money. It is going to change the nature of international travel. It will force workflow changes in business and pleasure across the board.
That is the kind of regulatory move that would require some serious dialogue, I would think. And not that Drumpf is capable of serious dialogue, but it seems to me that name dropping the city the intel came from might have been necessary for diplomatic creds.
And, come on... if your source is so naked that a mention of a city could get him killed, you might want to do something about that. Don't we have a spy agency of our own?
This screams "Saddam's WMDs" to me or maybe "Yellowcake!".
I also wondered if the source wasn't Saudi Arabia. They've got great intel on ISIS.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
Screams "BENGHAZI!" to me.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Hillary leading a resistance? Ha!
Brings to mind the politician's credo:
"The people are marching! I must find out where they are going so I can lead them!"
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
@Steven D OK here is a conspiracy
OK here is a conspiracy theory for you and I made it up
But probably is is not unique
The dems, repubs, MIC are all in it together to make the RUSSIA SCARE as big as the cold war to scare the shit out of us so the deep state can keep going and spending trillions
Obama was SELECTED and we don't know exactly how it happened
Trump is a goof ball but doing his job, but if he goes too far off track, he will get the John Kennedy, MLK, Malcolm X, treatment
Or, he will be tamed
but such an egomaniac will be hard to bring into line
@Steven D
Hey, if the US PTB are going to arm/train/answer appeals to assist 'moderate' terrorists, ISIS is going to be an asset to protect, at least at some destabilizing-of-other-countrie's legitimate-government points! Can't let those consistently fighting terrorists have info which might harm fellow terrorists which TPTB may or may not be pretending to fight, depending.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
So much
for trying to reform the democratic party.
They're all in on occupying the occupiers with their queen in charge.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
She and Obama are in charge of taking the party forward.
I guess "forward" is short for "same old, same old."
Back to the future
Why not back the future?
ghotiphaze just schooled me what a resistance resister is called, a capacitor. So yeah, here's the plans for new monkey wrench:
The Flux Capacitor
Thanks
So... meet the new boss, etc., etc.........
I assume she'll be carrying her personalized AK-47 when crashing the gates of the Establishment.
"McResistance... whine and cheese for the monied."
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Hip Hillary
And these feminists don't seem to realize....
That Hillary Clinton represents the very worst aspects of what feminists define as patriarchy. She's willing to shred womens' reproductive autonomy, bomb the shit out of women and children in other countries...
Hell, she even gave legitimacy to the attacks on Planned Parenthood by the so-called Center for Medical Progress while Bernie Sanders condemned them.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
Any clue what Hillary is resisting? Other than Bernie Sanders'
having his moment with the "revolution," that is?
Someone from some PAC called night before last.
Him (or a recording): "May I speak with the lady of the house?"
Me. "No" (hanging up).
Lady of the house? I should have asked if he was calling from 1946.
#Hillarysohip.
Wait.
Did someone introduce Debbie Wasserman Schultz to an honest woman?
'over my dead body' will Hillary lead the resistance! ...
thanks for the heads up; saw it coming with the Bordo roll out.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2017/apr/03/the-destru...
edit for spelling: just pissed off and writing too fast
So, electing the Mad Bomber will make Bordo
feel better about what Bordo went through in the 1970s?* Is that the take away?
Another article claiming it's the fault of Bernie, of media, of Millennial women, of everyone but Hillary and the Democrats. Gee, we just can't get enough of these clueless victim articles! I can hardly wait for number 13,478. Hope it comes out soon. /sarcasm
*Of course, in the 1970s, thanks to Bill's political contacts, Hillary had a job almost right out of law school investigating President Nixon (for whom she canvassed when he ran against JFK). Her positions on the WalMart board, headquartered in the state where her husband was Governor was a huge feminist victory, too. So was her being taken on by the Rose Law firm, not as an associate, but as a partner. The Rose law firm got a lot of business from the State of Arkansas and Bill was Governor. But, sure, Hillary went through all the same job struggles as all other women who graduated law school in 1972. /sarcasm
@smiley7
Tried to read that, but I just couldn't...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
The 'Mission' button doesn't work
But the 'Donate' button does on the website. That should tell you something.
That IS the mission
No, I'm not joking.
What "vision that earned nearly 66 million votes"?
Trump is scary and it's her turn is not a vision.
Beware the bullshit factories.
Most people vote by party. That was the vision
that earned Hillary 66 million votes. Anyone pretending it went deeper than that for most people is just funning us. Other than that, she ran on "Trump and his supporters are great big poopyheads."
hey, lots of those 66 million were republican women
who voted for HRC's ovaries.
then they voted straight republican downballot -- which is how, for example, HRC out-polled Feingold in Wisconsin.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
@HenryAWallace
Hillary said something truthful and accurate? There's a first!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I don't think all his supporters are great big
poopyheads. Indeed, some of them are my liberal friends in purple states who thought it very important to stop Hillary. However, yes, he certainly is. Turns out, saying that, even accurately, doesn't suffice to win the electoral vote, though. Whodda thunk it people think that massive, intrusive and incredibly expensive thing known as U.S. federal government should stand for more than Hillary's opponent being a poopyhead?
Of course, if they weren't racist misogynists, they would have voted for her even if she said nothing much and they couldn't trust what she did say, amirite?
@HenryAWallace
Lol, was actually thinking specifically of Trump, not his supporters - and poopy-head or no, think he's still better than Hillary would have been, if only because people will protest the horrible stuff being shoveled out by him, where pretty much the same disasters would have been covered over by the media for the Clintons and passed under the radar of most. Also, if he responds (however stupidly, unjustly, illegally and, I suspect thoughtlessly rather than spitefully, cruelly - people were killed with those missiles) to emotional appeals, (at least from his daughter? wife? one of the two, anyway) he's likely not the sort of definite psychopath the double-faced Clinton package offered and that Pence, Ryan and the rest seems to me to represent..
Some of his negative characteristics may have stemmed, at least in part, from never having to grow up and from a bad upbringing where the rich kid's ego was massaged to the point where there was no room left within a swollen head for critical brain function. And, speaking from a safe distance, he's not as creepily disgusting to listen to as is Hillary, while his inability for impulse control at least likely tosses some incidental spanners in the Deep State works, seemingly having slowed things down a little, even if he is doing an awful lot of damage on a daily basis.
Hillary would have converted us all to radioactive sludge by now, I'm fairly sure. Which might have been a relief to women working under Bill... But I wonder if that may have factored into the shift among Super Delegates who might rather not have their hair fall out, their skin peel off, etc., while watching the world's oxygen suppliers die off from lack of sun, rain and warmth under global Dimming, should they be so unfortunate as to live that long.
Trump is also bringing people together, which can only be a good thing, although I wish people were protesting his rotten decisions rather than so many apparently doing the Hillary 'protest Trump' thing, if you see what I mean. A little public guidance rather than a STOP HIS EVERY MOVE! attitude, if he ever does anything good/less harmful to approve of, might actually encourage him to seek public adulation more often.
So I can totally see why people would have voted for him to keep Hillary out - although Jill Stein would have given the world a better chance of survival, and if everyone had voted against evil by voting for her, we'd have been a lot better off - assuming that she was allowed to win, which doesn't seem likely, in any event.
I still bear strong suspicions that a number of Jill's votes were stolen to be used toward Her Royal Coronation...
Hillary is not a 'lesser' evil.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I agree with much of what you say. Then again,
I voted for Stein, so it's no surprise that I agree. Sadly (sadly, because I think Pence will be worse), I think we're marching inexorably to impeachment. That's where I think this has been headed since election night.
couldn't have made it up. priceless!
I thought O had banned all resitance
when he shut down OWS, didn't support BLM #DAPL or Wisconsin strikers
maybe it's not totally official until they have a color
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Too bad her resistance is to us.
When are they going to realize they can't treat the rest of us like the Tea Baggers? Progressives live in a reality based universe where we don't need a corporate lackey telling us what to think.
The real SparkyGump has passed. It was an honor being your human.
Bingo!
She IS the problem defined. We are HER problem that she must resist so she can continue to grift the system.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
More right pointing arrows...
Because they worked so well in those other elections.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Now, any chance of Dems 'reinventing' themselves is dead,
(IMO).
I was never one to believe that FSC would consider 'going quietly into the night.'
Good bye, and good riddance, I say!
Mollie
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went."--Will Rogers
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Not exactly
It only means the McResistance is as phony as a $3 bill.
It doesn't do anything to the real progressive movement.
Now are we finally
ready for a third party?
dfarrah
time for a new party now!
with or without a leader
MichelleB
IMO, building the Green Party is likelier to go somewhere.
One thing the left needs no more of is splintering, especially after Bernie's quixotic "revolution" efforts.
IMO, we should
come up with a name and go for it.
The green party is perceived as a one-issue party (not that the perception cannot be changed). Personally, I would like a name that has some breadth to it.
dfarrah
I still like Pirate Party.
Good, early American traditions... Obviously anti-corporate and pro-freedom of Information.
And...
PIRATES!
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppj0WQOTDnM]
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Hmmmm, it does have a
ring to it.
The Peoples Pirate Party, plundering voters from the useless repubs and dims.
dfarrah
Just take it global --
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
That's always been my sticking point with the Greens
Their brand is perceived (not without cause) as advancing first and foremost an environmental agenda. While critically important to the human race's continued viability on this planet, it's not a cause that will draw allies like economic concerns will.
Exactly
The Green Party isn't and never will be a viable option for the masses. It's reputation as fringe and ineffectual is too entrenched, and its scope is too narrow.
Personally, I don't want to join any party. I'm independent/unaffiliated and expect I will stay that way. We independents are the majority already, and I think the time and the electorate are ripe for independents to rise up and temporarily band together to topple the two-party stranglehold on our political system. I think it would be a lot easier to get people on board with declaring independence, separating themselves from the duopoly, without forcing them to try to fit into any new box.
Breaking the control of the duopoly over the entire political system is where I'm at now as goal #1. But getting enough people signed up for any new or alternative party is likely to fail, imo. Too many real and deep differences still exist among the 99%. That's why I think Independents are the key to undermining the duopoly. Then we can get on with fighting amongst ourselves over where to go. Otherwise, we're all just squabbling in the back seat and will be mostly ignored, and occasionally scolded, by the powers that be who remain at the wheel.
Well, then do it. Rise up and so forth.
"We independents are the majority already, and I think the time and the electorate are ripe for independents to rise up and temporarily band together to topple the two-party stranglehold on our political system. I think it would be a lot easier to get people on board with declaring independence, separating themselves from the duopoly, without forcing them to try to fit into any new box."
You still have to do it via a party structure in order to get candidates on ballots - or I guess you could do signatures, too(??). So, establish the Independents' Party.
dfarrah
I have voted for independents on the Arizona ballot
Independent means I don't belong to or identify with any political party. "The Independent Party" would be an oxymoron. I'm not interested in belonging to a political party, much less starting one. My point is there are more nonaffiliated voters than democrats or republicans. Whatever barriers exist that 'you have to operate within a party structure' are what need to be addressed so that independent candidates can compete. That's the exact system that needs to be challenged. Focusing on either fixing the democrats or creating a new party is playing their game their way. That doesn't work.
@CS in AZ
Agree. The point of having different parties is so that people can freely vote for whichever appears to best serve their interests according to their candidates and/or platform (assuming that they adhered to it) and to do so at any point in the process, without bizarre limitations such as having to register with the party in advance, being limited as to voting for the most suitable candidates within different parties.
This simply indicates that such parties have no interest in serving the overall public, as is indicated by concerns voiced within the Dem party that 'outsiders' might vote in 'their' elections, this necessitated in part by the use of political labeling and propaganda to divide and conquer the public in using them to weaken and distract themselves in attacking each other.
The American tradition of locking people into one of two parties is appallingly undemocratic, as is the Two-Party Trade-Off system itself.
Edited because I managed to hit 'save' before finishing a sentence.
And re-edited to anyway add the obvious point that the lack of any real electoral choice does away with any need for either party to appeal to the public via consistently delivered quality public service - instead emitting self-interested appeals involving party/candidate requests (and now, apparently, demands from the would-be public servants to their desired employers) for votes, free labour/time and money over and above what the moneyed self-interests provide them for consistently acting against the public interest.
US political parties and corporate candidates/public servants typically do not think in terms of what public servants can do for the public that employs them and therefore can do for their country, but in terms of what they, as self-appointed 'elites' (parasites) can drain the public and country of, much as many corporate CEOs short-sightedly deplete and undermine the very businesses which were licenced and exist to provide services and employment which create the livelihoods and (once-reasonable) profits on which they depend, in the interest of maximizing their own outrageous short-term personal benefits at the expense of the companies, workers, customers, ecology and society, without which - they'd have nothing.
Such large, rapacious corporations are inefficient, destructive and unsustainable - even when not directly running government. Yet the pathological corporate culture has infected government to a point where life on Earth itself is poisoned and immediately endangered to the point of extinction by the combination of blundering ignorance and pathological greed introduced into the legislative and legal processes over a lengthy period of time.
The US electoral system is designed to facilitate corruption. And the government is now effectively formed of it, as a result. Pull out and bar the corruption and there will be virtually nothing left but a gap to be - at long last - filled by a legitimate government truly of, by and for the people, as is mandatory under the US Constitution.
But a fair voting system must be a first act, directly following the elimination from all political/legislative processes of self-interests and their often-stolen Big Money.
It's the getting there that's going to be 'fun'... but it really is 'do or die'. And soon.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
We don't need a party
we need a movement.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
We need a party
in order to get people on the ballots, etc.
dfarrah
Elections aren't going to change anything
The PTB have gotten rigging elections down to a science. Shutting it down, that's what's needed. Remember how terrified they were of OWS?
A Civil Rights Party never would have brought racial justice to the US, but the Civil Rights Movement made huge strides. Clean them out physically first, then hold elections.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
And exactly how do
you propose to "clean them out" physically with no replacements?
Saying that a civil rights party would never have succeeded is pure speculation on your part.
What exactly would this movement you envision do?
dfarrah
History is full of examples
Our ancestors rode people out on a rail, tarred and feathered corrupt officials, and other things that were worse (look at the French!). We don't need to go that far, but the point is that electoral politics isn't working, and we need to stop these corrupt criminals in other ways.
OWS is a good start.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
You still want to try to 'reform' the Dims?
If you can't see it's hopeless now, you never will.
They're planning for the 'third time's the charm' election run.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Yes
It happened once before. It can happen again.
It's NOT worth it. And they're lying
Sneaks. You aren't going to change these shits.
Especially not with the Clinton Creature back in the saddle. That is the party that Slick Willie built.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Never have so many people
(in my lifetime) demonstrated a hunger for something besides the two major parties.
The people are already there and the money is already there. It's time.
dfarrah
Yes -- for reasonable reasons.
Amanda, you said:
to which gjohnsit amswered:
I also support the attempts to reform the Democratic Party, but not because I necessarily hold out any hope for their success.
I support them because I want to see Her Heinous and Company monkeywrenched in every way possible. To this end, the range of persons I'll support in placing obstacles in Her way is actually quite vast. Someone would have to be pretty freakin' vile (Chump-order vile) for me to not support him in preventing Her (or anyone like Her) from accessing the levers of power.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
@Amanda Matthews The cult will never die.
The cult will never die.
Proverbs 29:18
Jewish Scriptures, Proverbs 29:18, to be precise, Captain!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
They'll die if their money dries up,
which may happen. The trouble is, the same people keep clustering around the machinery, ready to back some new shill should the opportunity present. It's time to stop backing political frauds.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Stop oiling the machinery
Wait! We already did! Oiling is being done by large (oilish) donors. It all returns to Citizens United.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
The "Resistance" was never
The "Resistance" was never anything more than the start of the Hillary 2020 campaign.
She was never not running
in 2020, not for a second. And after losing in 2020 she'll run again in 2024 if she can still be propped up on a stool by that time.
She'll never stop. Our choice for president will be Hillary or a Republican until she dies.
And when they "win" it all back
what do they think happens when people don't see any changes at all? I guess then no one even bothers to vote, which is what they want in some respects. They almost deserve to get it all back and fall flat on their faces with their smug smarmy arrogance.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
Look at Obama's popularity and there's your answer
Income inequality went way up during his presidency, more people than ever are on food stamps, the banks have gotten bigger, many people can barely pay for their health care premiums and deductibles, and instead of 2 wars that he inherited and promised he would end as soon as possible, the troops are back in Iraq, Libya has been destroyed, Syria is a mess and there are drones in 7-8 more countries. Even with this information, people still believe that he has been the best president since FDR. They also think that he ended two wars and hasn't started any new ones. No seriously, I see that written on various websites.
If people can believe that, they won't care what she does. I think that most of us agree that she is a warmonger and the evidence backs that up, her supporters denied that.
I guess that people should get their chessboards out again if she ever becomes president.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
Factor in the infamous Obama charisma,
then factor in that Her hasn't got any.
Then factor in that the voters (supposedly) chose the guy they'd like to have a beer with over the boring policy wonk in 2000 (we know there was fraud, but it shouldn't have been close enough to steal).
Her is in for another massive disappointment, IMHO, unless the Rs run the real Godzilla against Her. And I don't think they're that stupid.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
(Gilligan Cut to scene of Godzilla accepting the GOP nomination)
“— thank you, and G~d bless America!”
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GilliganCut
Godzilla?
Who would you be calling "the real Godzilla" here? Rmoney? Jeff Sessions? Paul "Eddie Munster" Ryan? Newt "Sanctity of Marriage" Gingrich?
And I thought the 2016 slate of major party Presidential candidates sucked big green weenies!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Oops, forgot that Godzilla is an illegal alien :-D
The Godzilla, the giant lizard who periodically trashes Tokyo.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
I thought Trump was the price we pay
To get the Clintons out of politics forever. Now it's a double suck, Trump and Hillary in our faces. GO AWAY, PLEASE.
Beware the bullshit factories.
Follow the money
Betcha it's just another way to monetize the Clinton brand.
Unbelievable! Wait, hold it,
actually BELIEVABLE! Let's see who follows the leader. She's transformed herself to ensure its still her party and she'll cry, er, take over if she wants to. She sickens me.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
HRC WANNACRY(pt)
Hillary WANNACRY(pt), did you say? [ducking!]
"Oooops! Your democracy has been encrypted! But this time, you won't get it back even IF you pay!"
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
How can the rank and file dems
be so stupid?
BC, HRC, and BO led them off a cliff and destroyed the dem party.
dfarrah
Maybe they lie stunned at the bottom of the cliff
waiting for emergency crews to save them. Sorry, that was a budget cut.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
A Zombie Candidate, pushing zombie lies...
to feed on the brains of everyone.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhyJlMHa8XQ]
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Herpes is forever and so is Clinton
A pox on both "our" parties. Where else but in the land of the greed and the home of the brazen.
The only good thing about 2016 was the much hoped for end of the reign of the Clintons; should have remembered how hard it is to get rid of cockroaches.
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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
That will be a cold day in you-know-where.
Rec'd!!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
4000 orgs supporting her
Only proves the veal pen is still alive and still incapable of independence from the establishment.
I say we stick around to fuck them all up every chance we get.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Is there joy in republican Mudville today?
With Hillary jumping in right after her loyalists taking absolute control of the party one must ask: For eight years the gop has beaten the electoral snot out of the democrats--is there joy in republican tonight or what?
First task I would guess, will be to marginalize and push Sanders off the national stage. She will be the voice of the democratic party dangnabit.
And Justice Democrats, oh she will kick your asses with her own set of candidates.
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