DNC Fraud Lawsuit Update

Summary: DNC had filed a Motion to Dismiss, oral arguments were Tuesday, the DNC looked foolish, the Judge retired to make his ruling.

TYT's Jordan Chariton spoke with Jared Beck, one of the plaintiffs in a lawsuit against the Democratic National Committee, about the latest developments in the lawsuit.

On April 25, 2017, there was a scheduled hearing down in Florida regarding the DNC Fraud Lawsuit filed last year. The hearing was to hear oral arguments concerning the Defendant's [DNC] Motion to Dismiss.

The hearing lasted all afternoon and the ruling was not immediate, rather the judge retired to draft his opinion. This video sums up Tuesday's proceedings.

Niko House is in contact with the attorney, Jared Beck, and was at the hearing and also posted a video (but only on Facebook, EEK!). Mr. House painfully rambles on and on but the video is interesting and worth watching, for the second point of view, and hearing it coming from a layman.

Here's a link if you dare go to FB:
https://www.facebook.com/nikoforthepeople/videos/1895252034082818/

Jared Beck and his co-attorney, his wife, can be found at their website, BeckandLee.com, and at their activist site - JamPAC.us.

There are many interesting links at JamPAC:

There is also a FB page: DNCfraudlawsuit

So the bottom line is the DNC had filed a Motion to Dismiss, there were oral arguments Tuesday, the DNC looked foolish and incompetent, the Judge retired to make his ruling and draft his opinion. If he doesn't dismiss, the full case may actually eventually reach a courtroom.

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I, of course, want the DNC nailed to the wall.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

@dkmich

Trump's wall, I presume? They could act as scarecrows and scare the other vultures off.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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Are donors to a Presidential primary candidate entitled to consumer protection against fraudulent claims of election fairness by the political party administering the process?

The 1st Amendment may or may not cover the final decision of the party to nominate the candidate of its choice (the DNC argument), but that really doesn't address the core question of whether the 1st Amendment protects knowingly untrue statements about the process made for the purpose of soliciting donations.

Basically, it boils down to whether fraudulent statements made in furtherance of soliciting donations are political speech (protected) or commercial speech (less protected). The fact that the statements were made about the process of the election (that the DNC claims to run a clean game) rather than actual political issues would seem to weigh in favor of the plaintiffs.

Whenever a judge is arguing your position for you, it's typically a good sign the decision will go your way.

Here's hoping.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

@Not Henry Kissinger
corporate by-laws (which i don't know), then i don't know what free speech has to do with it, at least with respect to the executives' fiduciary responsibility to act within and under the by-laws (and/or articles of incorporation).

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd see bottom of page

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@GreyWolf

are you referring to?

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What else did they say in their defense, other than lying is protected speech? If the judge comes back with dismissal, well that's that I guess. Wish I could invest in deck chairs, to profit like them. Not really.

Thanks

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@eyo No matter how the bastards wiggle, they lied. They were supposed to be operating in accordance with their own published and publicly available rules. For a judge to rule otherwise (i.e., in favor of the DNC) would nullify ALL by-laws and most contracts in this country.

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they will have won the battle. No one in their right mind will donate any money to a candidate under the Dem banner that wasn't appointed by the DNC leadership. This is why I wish Bernie would dump the Dems and run with Tulsi in 2020. Sanders/Gabbard 2020 Peoples Progressive Party (PPP). And a good penalty on the DNC would be to pay back all those donors to Bernie who were taken to the cleaners by this corrupt organization. I know I'm dreaming, but I'd really like my $2700 back to support any progressive candidate that's not a Dem.

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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK | "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine." - G. B. Shaw Bernie/Tulsi 2020

@ZimInSeattle

who is over 80 on Inauguration Day.

I am not sure the Democratic National Committee wins if its defense to a fraud charge is the First Amendment. And, the fact is, Hillary did lose the election and a good number of Democrats are disgusted with the Party.

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@HenryAWallace I know you are but what am, oh wait. Yeah, no I love Bernie but want to see future represented by younger people from now on. Forever, like never let seniority corrupt the system with revolving doors like now. Don't say experience counts, for what? Hundreds, thousands of people without proper shelter or sanitation? Please, change, and I don't mean more charities, I mean real opportunities, real living wages, real houses. A real middle-class and NO poor people. Have as many rich fuckers as you want, but allow a middle-class, there is enough to go around.

Bernie is the true incrementalist, I think, probably why the polls say he's popular, he "makes sense" to the people listening. He is talking about reverting to a state that already existed when I was young, I hope "folks" realize that and start to demand a little more. Like about four decades more, coincidentally about as long as Bernie has been talking at same issues.

Thanks
Edit: spell check robot, turned it off after too many times being wrong, but apparently I depend on it now for everything, right or wrongly. Great.

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Impartiality-Clause-DNC-Charter-Bylaws-Art-5-Sec-4
"In the conduct and management of the affairs and procedures of the Democratic National Committee, particularly as they apply to the preparation and conduct of the Presidential nomination process, the Chairperson shall exercise impartiality and evenhandedness as between the Presidential candidates and campaigns."

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@GreyWolf
corporate by-laws aren't political promises, and as far as i know, they're legally-binding contracts, of a sort.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

@GreyWolf

It should be the DNC, full stop. However, wasn't it the Chair who did things like set the schedule for the debates? I believe Howard Dean even said DWS was advised not to do that. By holding off the first debate until after the NY deadline for changing registration had passed, she let the Republican debates and Republican use up all the oxygen in political reporting for months. She should have been sued for malpractice, ffs.

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@HenryAWallace Debbie is a named defendant, as well as the DNC, and who are defendeants may have been settled when the DNC tried to dismiss the case for improper service ... so if they could slip out of liability they've probably already tried ...

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@GreyWolf

Amendment defense to fraud claims.

Seems as though they are flailing. However, I don't know if I am hopeful about the outcome. Maybe I just can't allow myself to be. Too many disappointments.

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http://jampac.us/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/042517cw2.pdf

It's 123 pages, but you can read it all in a little over an hour.

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@LoneStarMike nice, thanks for the link n/t

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That would be unfortunate since the most value from such a case would come from forcing the most public, establishment Democrats to finally stop this insulting charade that nothing happened during the primaries.

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Beware the bullshit factories.