The Five Year U.S. War against Syria Enters a New Phase

I need to be talked down. Donald Trump, the President of this country and the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces and intelligence services, has unilaterally attacked Syria with missiles aimed at government and military resources, based on the lie that the Assad government was behind the recent alleged chemical weapons incident in Syria. There is no doubt the alleged chemical weapon incident was a false flag taken to justify this very action. Anyone who doubts that, prove me wrong.

To keep it in perspective, our last president, Obama and his Secretary of States Clinton and Kerry, also attacked Syria starting with the fake Arab Spring and the unleashing of their proxy Al Qaeda turned ISIS army against the Syria people and the Assad government. Those calling for congressional authorization to attack Syria should have been calling for it for the last five years because that's when the U.S. first attacked Syria (this iteration).

The despicable duo McCain and Graham are happy, the neocons are happy, the Clintons are happy, all the American warmongers and imperialists are happy, Trump has saved the day. They'll finally get their regime change and be able to proceed post haste to Iran. That's their hope anyway.

The lies and propaganda regarding the war in Syria have been off the charts for five straight years, The mainstream, corporate media has literally joined together with our own fucking government to purposefully lie to the American people about what has been happening in Syria. That includes the vast majority of news on the internet. The only places where the entire truth has been documented has been the very sites the establishment labels fake news. The corporate media continues to label it a "civil war". Even supposedly alternative news sites, like Democracy Now, have used that label which is not only erroneous, but flat out a propaganda false narrative meant to obscure the real reasons for the war. It's meant to paint the war as a fight between Syrians for the future of their country when in fact it's a war the U.S. and Israel started to do exactly what Trump wants to do now, regime change and country balkanization. It's not and has never been a "civil war". That is bullshit. The plans have been in the works for decades.

Clearly, what has hit me most in this is not the fact that the U.S., behind it's new president Donald Trump, has unleashed a barrage of missiles into Syria. Nor is it the lies that I hear from Trump, Clinton, McCain, Graham, the corporate media and most of the alternative media. Nor is it the possibility of nuclear war with Russia. What has hit me most is reading and listening to the people of this country. After the Gulf of Tonkin, the JFK assassination, MLK assassination, 9/11, WMD's and babies in incubators and the Iraq war, Obama's red line and many other obvious and proven lies from our government and the oligarchy's media, very few people want to know the truth. Even when told, they cannot accept it for one reason or another. It doesn't get through. Today on the caucus99percent blog, a relative bastion of insightfulness, there were some of who felt the Syria war was too complex and that "we" should not "intervene" over this alleged chemical attack. To clarify, it's not that complex. The U.S. and company are trying to and have been trying to take down the Assad government and Syria for the last five years. And there is no intervening about it, the U.S. has been attacking Syria for five years, how the hell can it intervene? Especially for something it is behind, i.e., this is a false flag event.

I'm stuck between it's fucking useless to so pissed I need to do something about it. I just don't know if there are enough people to join me. Most everybody else seems too fucking confused.

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@enhydra lutris
a National Tax Strike is what we're looking at ultimately, not that our tax dollars have anything to do with the trillions spent on war when we have a $20 trillion debt. But it seems that at some point, when the government is clearly so corrupt as to be a danger to itself and to the life of the planet, there has to be recourse that is legal and non-violent.

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so far is the rationality of Putin. Over the years, only his voice has been the one to prevent escalation of tensions by responding in moderation instead of in typical US knee-jerk fashion. I think Trump knows this to some extent and that's why he risked this bombing. But, I don't think Trump is smart enough to understand there may become a point where he may regret pushing Putin beyond a certain limit.

I'm thinking the only way to stop American war mongering in every fucking corner of the world is to allow the MIC to get so much funding that it eventually sucks the lifeblood out of the economy such that infrastructure and social needs continue to go unmet and the American public finally rise up and put a muzzle on the war mongers that control Washington.

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@CB @CB
saves the situation (with grace):
Russian warship headed to Mediterranean

Russia's cruise missile-armed frigate heading for Syria’s Tartus — source

Military & Defense April 07, 12:40 UTC+3
The Russian Black Sea Fleet’s frigate The Admiral Grigorovich, currently on a routine voyage, is to enter the Mediterranean later on April 7

and with regards to your suggested 'solution':

I'm thinking the only way to stop American war mongering in every fucking corner of the world is to allow the MIC to get so much funding that it eventually sucks the lifeblood out of the economy such that infrastructure and social needs continue to go unmet and the American public finally rise up and put a muzzle on the war mongers that control Washington.

To which Faust's words come to my mind:

„Die Botschaft hör´ ich wohl, allein mir fehlt der Glaube“? = (my translation) "The message I hear very well, the faith though is quite lacking"?

Last time the German people didn't have their needs met (Weimar Republic), the German public rose up and got themselves something that wasn't quite what one hoped to get, right?

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@mimi
to blame the woes of the country on. He was actually correct and took advantage of it.

He started rebuilding German's armed forces and infrastructure which put a lot of people back to work. Western corporations and banks helped to give technological expertise and financial funding, without which Hitler could not have been as phenomenally successful as he was in such a small period of time. Unfortunately he used what he created to feed his grandiose narcissism. (Hmmm - sounds a tad like the Trumper's personality disorder.)

Different set of circumstances now occurring in the US.

US manufacturing jobs are at 1941 levels and continue to drop. They now stand at less than 8% of all jobs and will never recover due to global demographics. Part time service work is now the norm in America. The rich/poor divide is becoming a chasm. The majority of the increase in wages has gone towards supervisory potions. The population is over their ears in consumer and education debt. A very large portion of what is left of the middle class is just one paycheck away from default. The poorer are already in default. The health care of the country is rapidly increasing in cost as benefits are decreasing. The entire infrastructure of the country is degrading at an ever increasing rate. The militarized police state is growing like an out-of-control virus. The country is run by an elite who care little for their constituents other than some fancy lip service during election year.

I'm sure many here can add to that ignominious list.

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@CB I wasn't paying attention to this, but Lockheed planned on moving production of their fighter jets to India, and from other sources this included the new F-35. These contracts include spare parts and even service.

Holy shit, American workers can't even rely on getting manufacturing jobs for weapons paid by their taxes. Profit before nation.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-airshow-india-lockheed-exclusive-idUSK...

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@MrWebster
cannot see in the dark without needed rare earth elements from China. US air-frames are completely dependent on titanium, 80% of which comes from Russia. The US imports 98% of its lithium batteries. 75% of IC's are made in China.

In fact, Americans would wander around in the dark, naked and barefoot w/o manufacture from China. Imagine if the average American had to pay US labor pricing for their Walmart goodies.

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@CB
your comment is that you assume I disagree with all the points you made or that I don't know them. I do and I am just confused why you seem to think that I disagree with those points.

The constant repetition of points that have been made over and over convincingly on this site during the time I read here (which is quite a long time) seems to make you forget that people understand them and agree with them.

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@mimi

I do know that on a site like this, such repetition of what may be to many regular readers obvious points may prove very useful indeed to 'drive-by'/new readers.

I've been noticing that somehow even some of the the most brilliant and well-respected people among the many on here appear to feel likely to think that other people think they're not or are uninformed. This can be confusing to the rest of us...

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@Ellen North
I just got ticked off by that essay attacking the VoteVets for their petition drive and got lost in apparent confusion and some frustration. I bet too that I often don't get a sarcastic undertone in some comments here and humor/snark can be a tricky thing cross-culturally. I don't have the language and education to express myself like most who post essays here (that's why I don't want to write diaries), but I do get the "basics". I never have difficulties understanding the articles that are posted within the EB by Joe and most others, aside from some about economic stuff.

Let's forget about it. This was a difficult end of the week and it was reflected in my words. My apologies.

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@mimi

No problem! There was an obvious misunderstanding happening and no need for an apology from you, although thanks for the gracious thought.

I have a sleep disorder and some health issues and being often tired myself, I fear that I often fail to express myself clearly, so apologies from my end are both appropriate and offered.

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@mimi Putin may not be a good person, but he's showing--and has shown--amazing restraint in response to the insane policies coming from this side of the Atlantic.

If I were him, and a base where my soldiers and planes resided, within the borders of one of my satellite states/colonies/whatever, had been bombed, you're damned skippy I'd move some ships into position.

For god's sakes, he has had NATO troops along his border for months. Can you imagine what the reaction would be in the US if Russian warships lined up along our west coast? Or if he started massing troops across the Bering Strait?

And I don't mean to be a jerk, but it's a deliberately provocative move--and incredibly unkind to people from both Germany and Russia, in my opinion--for NATO to put German soldiers on the Russian border. For god's sakes, why do we have to bring that historical moment back to the fore? Even I, an American far removed from your countries, can't imagine the callousness and recklessness of pushing people into reliving that moment.

Somebody wants to re-fight World War II, is what it looks like to me. What a horrific idea.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal
I don't speculate on Putin, he certainly is very intelligent. I don't speculate on his morality or human rights conscience. I can't. I won't and I do not fall for rhetoric, from neither American right-winging populists nor naively believe in the goodness of Russia's moral character. I have said in several comments over the last month that I believe Germans never felt threatened by Russia since reunification. To assume that Germans do, is enervating. It's the standard propaganda about Germans from the US. I get that and I don't like it.

Sorry for me getting impatient.

I worked with the current German correspondent, who is the current bureau chief in Moscow's German TV studio, when he was still a correspondent in the Washington DC's German TV studio. He is married to a Russian lady. I saw his comment yesterday in German TV. He made all the arguments you made. Remarkable restraint by Putin etc. No sensationalism or attempt to "bamboozle" anyone about the US military intervention in Syria or the "evil Putin man" in his remarks.

He ended saying that right now one can't foresee how much restraint there will remain, as the Russians send their ships into the Mediterranean. So, just because the German media reports on that military decision Putin made, it doesn't mean I consider Putin a bad man. Or feel threatened by his decisions.

Believe me I have some exposure now, being in Germany, of who is feeling what about Russians. We have a lot of them here, a lot of refugees and a lot of former East Germans, people who have "lived" and "felt" the Russians under Soviet Union times. They are easy fodder for American propaganda usage. Just watching the different people we have among the German population, doesn't mean we all fall for US propaganda or are enthusiastic about Putin good heart or Russia's benevolence.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal The stationing of German troops in Lithuania sometimes make me think certain German and NATO leaders want to re-fight WWII and win the Cold War militarily. That part of the German army that invaded Lithuania went to the siege of Leningrad. In addition, I wonder how even Jews must feel about German forces coming East as the vast majority of Jews killed in the concentration camps came from Poland, Ukraine, and Russia. Also, in addition, Vilnius in many ways was the capital of European Judaism as it was called the Northern Jerusalem. (Lithuania percentage wise had the most Jews of any country in Europe.)

According to Stephen Cohen, Russian military policy is to go nuclear if they are invaded.

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@MrWebster

They are pragmatic, and they know what monster they face. That monster will, if permitted, destroy life on the planet in any event, as such gratuitously destructive behaviours, pathological, insatiable greed and endless, mindless growth must.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

.... Somebody wants to re-fight World War II, is what it looks like to me. What a horrific idea.

But now they have more powerful nukes and other weapons made by those who reward them for using them and making the public pay for lots more without troubling to make them accurately aware of why.

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@CB

I'm thinking the only way to stop American war mongering in every fucking corner of the world is to allow the MIC to get so much funding that it eventually sucks the lifeblood out of the economy such that infrastructure and social needs continue to go unmet and the American public finally rise up

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It's just that most of frogs (e.g., in the hot water pot) don't already know this.

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@CB

I don't think Trump even understands what great and myriad weaknesses he betrayed with that missile reaction...

And who'd believe the word of a serial liar, braggart and contract-breaker like Trump (or Clinton)?

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

But this morning I'm clinging to a faint, faint, shred of hope, given the warning to Russia and the "minimal" damage from 59 (!) cruise missiles, that this is judo. A domestic diversion from getting something else done? A notice to North Korea that it can't count on restraint? Appearing crazy can be useful when you're dealing with someone like Kim il Un.

Sure hope so. After all, we know Trump wants to be re-elected. It may be faint, but it's a hope.

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@Sunspots @Sunspots
And thank you for saying it. You have reduced my horror level a bit. Using the term "judo" has contributed to our understanding. Thank you.

Three things Trump has said in the past year created a hope in me that he is aware of the treasonous element of the deep state: first, he said to Jeb Bush that his brother didn't keep us safe; second, he said on 60 Minutes that the 6 trillion we spent on war in the Middle East could have been spent to rebuild the country; and third, in response to questions about dealing with governments who kill people, he stated that we kill people too.

From the perspective of a conspiracy theorist pacifist like myself, that is a paradigm shift. The problem is that he's as predictable as a flea, and you can't predict where he'll come down. I'm just hoping you're right about the judo going on with this attack. I'm with you.

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@Linda Wood

The three that you mention above.

This could be used to draw out and then purge the CIA, too. (That's what I'd do. And prosecute them.).

Gotta have some hope until it's definitely all over, right?

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@Sunspots
yeah. Hope and eternal vigilance.

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@Linda Wood You know it will bite--you just don't know who.

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@Sunspots
When two crazies try to out-crazy each other it is guaranteed to end in grief. There is also another factor - Kim doesn't haven't anything to lose. The Trumper will have to explain South Korea afterwards.

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that satellites had determined the chemicals had been dropped from planes flying from the bombed airbase. Has anybody seen or heard that? I didn't ask my friend. I decided to change the subject.

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@on the cusp
for years to bomb terrorist positions in Homs, Hama, Palmyra and Dier ez-Zor. Hundreds of flights come and go from here on a daily basis.

The SAA has just resumed using it an hour ago. From reports I've seen, the terrorist groups in the above areas have just mounted numerous attacks against government positions.

The only solution is for Russia to step up it air forces in Syria to counter these effects.

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The Intercept that includes video and photographs of the airfield after the attack. Comments include such as these, as well as other positions by Syrians hoping for more attacks:

https://theintercept.com/2017/04/07/trump-surrenders-element-surprise-wa...

… Edward Dark @edwardedark
Isis, Al Qaeda and all the other jihadi groups are celebrating and happy today thanks to the Americans #Syria
12:36 AM - 7 Apr 2017

Edward Dark @edwardedark
America: ban Syrian refugees, then bomb #Syria because you're "concerned" about Syrians....
1:58 AM - 7 Apr 2017

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Human Rights Watch says evidence "strongly suggests" blah blah blah.

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@on the cusp https://angryarab.blogspot.de/2017/04/human-rights-watch-director-is-gla...

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where did the rest of them go? Did they evaporate?

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@featheredsprite
in fields. This is an extremely large failure rate. Maybe advanced Russian technology has something to do with it?

Here's Russian reports and video/pictures. Southfront is generally a good source of information on Russian activities in Syria.

Russian Defense Ministry: Only 23 Out Of 59 Tomahawk Missiles Reached Their Target In Syria
Only 23 out of 59 Tomahawk missiles launched by the US Navy reached their target and hit the ash Shayrat military airfield near the Syrian city of Homs, the Russian Defense Ministry has claimed. The locations of the remaining 36 missiles’ impact is now unknown.

According to the statement, the US missiles destroyed a training facility, a material storage depot, a canteen, six MiG-23 aircraft in repair hangars and a radar station. Meanwhile, the airbase’s runway, taxiways and aircraft on the parking apron remained undamaged. (Photos and videos from the area)

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Oh man, get ready for mission creep and escalation in Syria. Mission creep to greater and greater levels of involvement. Kill for peace.

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