While Everyone Is Breathless about Russians . . .
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-03-07/cia-hackers-able-...
. . . Wikileaks has brought forth the first of multiple installments of alleged CIA documents (which all have so far indicated look to be the real thing), detailing the ways that the U.S. is spying upon others and upon its own citizens.
There's actually not much that will be news to folks who've been as observant as those at this site, but now the public gets to see it.
The trove shows CIA hackers are able to bypass encryption of applications including WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram and Confide by breaking into smartphones “that they run on and collecting audio and message traffic before encryption is applied,” WikiLeaks said in its analysis of the material.
Activists, journalists and others often turn to such outlets for secure communications, while terrorist groups such as Islamic State have used Telegram to go undetected. U.S. intelligence and law enforcement agencies have said that they need new powers to break into encrypted applications and devices.
The CIA also “runs a very substantial effort to infect and control” Microsoft Windows users with its malware, WikiLeaks said. It said the agency uses the U.S. consulate in Frankfurt, Germany, as a “covert base for its hackers” covering Europe, Middle East and Africa.
An earlier version of this Bloomberg story mentioned efforts to turn smart TVs into devices to watch us. There's some literary allusion in there, I think. The earlier story predicted many operatives will be changing or ending careers with this Wikileaks offering. One can only hope. . . .
The NYTimes elaborates . . .
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/world/europe/wikileaks-cia-hacking.html
WikiLeaks said the source, in a statement, set out policy questions that “urgently need to be debated in public, including whether the C.I.A.’s hacking capabilities exceed its mandated powers and the problem of public oversight of the agency.” The source, the group said, “wishes to initiate a public debate about the security, creation, use, proliferation and democratic control of cyberweapons.”
The documents, from the C.I.A’s Center for Cyber Intelligence, are dated from 2013 to 2016, and WikiLeaks described them as “the largest ever publication of confidential documents on the agency.” One former intelligence officer who briefly reviewed the documents on Tuesday morning said some of the code names for C.I.A. programs, an organization chart and the description of a C.I.A. hacking base appeared to be genuine.
Some of the details of the C.I.A. programs might have come from the plot of a spy novel for the cyberage, revealing numerous highly classified — and in some cases, exotic — hacking programs. One, code-named Weeping Angel, uses Samsung “smart” televisions as covert listening devices. According to the WikiLeaks news release, even when it appears to be turned off, the television “operates as a bug, recording conversations in the room and sending them over the internet to a covert C.I.A. server.”
The release said the program was developed in cooperation with British intelligence.
This also would appear to bode some impact on device sales to consumers. Or at least that's what gets the people at CBS fretting.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/wikileaks-cia-documents-released-cyber-intel...
It was not immediately clear how WikiLeaks obtained the information, code-named “Vault7,” which included more than 8,700 documents and files. The CIA tools, if authentic, could undermine the confidence that consumers have in the safety and security of their computers, mobile devices and even smart TVs.
WikiLeaks said the material came from “an isolated, high-security network situated inside the CIA’s Center for Cyber Intelligence in Langley, Virginia.” It didn’t say how the files were removed, such as possibly by a rogue employee, by hacking a federal contractor working for the CIA or breaking into a staging server where such hacking tools might be temporarily stored.
It's gonna get kinda confusing for a spell, what with the hackers who are hacking the hackers while our hackers' bosses decry another nation's hacking.
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And everybody said I was paranoid...
It wasn't just my imagination that computers are getting worse and worse as time goes on, and they were taking more and more control from the users.
If you can't repair it, you don't own it.
Quite happy with my home built machine. Go fuck yourself CIA.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
It's only paranoia . . .
. . . if they aren't out to get ya. And when was the CIA ever not out to get everybody?
From what I've read
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
I believe it.
Besides, I'm already on their watch list as a potential white supremacist/nationalist Terrorist (Thanks Obama), so I expect to be watched, and how are you doing today Mr. Jones?
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Damn, and we all know how guilt by association works.
Heh. Johnny come lately.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
@detroitmechworks
Dunno what you have, but there are automatic updates being imposed willy-nilly upon even Windows 7 users, and they just show up. I have always assumed that these are almost certainly spyware of some variety. But I speak as a computer illiterate and it would be nice to think that people who know what they're doing can avoid these updates, which never specify what they're for or anything other than the fact that they're loading.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Well, with 7 you can at least turn them off.
Aaaaaand I've just realized why they tried to get rid of that program.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
You may as well not bother if you are on Windows
That's like just handing them the keys.
Same with Android and Google.
Apple is a little better, but not nearly as secure as Mac users tend to think.
Linux is still the safest, but you have to be careful.
I'm paranoid enough
...to buy a Faraday Bag.
They can't do anything with my phone if signals can't reach it.
@detroitmechworks Need to get out of
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
We're all fucked
Not only is the CIA dangerous, but they are incompetent. According to the story, hundreds of hackers, state actors and criminals as well as run of the mill independent hackers now have access to these CIA hacking programs, malware, etc. thanks to their "contractors" selling them or releasing them on the open market.
The CIA needs to be flushed. The NSA program is bad enough, but the CIA essentially duplicated much of what the NSA already did for their own nefarious purposes. No device you own is safe, no virus protection can protect you from this shit, no encryption programs that you can obtain or buy are worth a damn.
This is a failure of monumental proportions on so many levels, morally, legally, politically, etc. etc. etc. And all of it will get swept under the rug by the MSM. We are headed for some really bad shit in the months and years to come. This is just one more example of humanity having lost control over our own destiny.
It also sheds a whole new light on the CIA's claims Russia "hacked" the election, since one of the CIA programs (i.e., code named "Umbrage") can use other country's cyber weapons (Russia, China, and god knows who else) to obscure the fact that the CIA was the real actor, the real enemy of the people at home and abroad.
It's ever more clear to me that we are slaves, better off than the slaves in poor countries, but slaves nonetheless, and as our economic situation continues to decline we are likely to see US society devolve into the worst of the worst countries for people in which to live unless they are ultra-rich or serve the ultra-rich. Not sure if anything can stop this downward spiral at this point. Certainly not traditional activism or politics as usual.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
They're pricing the Circuses out of the Masses ability to pay
The problem is they keep lowering the quality of the Circuses and upping the price. Eventually, even the photorealistic virtual worlds won't be enough to hide the growling belly you need to have in order to afford it.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
They're making people pay for being in prison
and families pay for their kids being put in juvenile detention in too many places now.
" how can it be swept under the rug by MSM?"
It's MSM, aka Bloomberg, NYT, CBS that is breaking the story. I think MSM is an antiquated catch all phrase that is meaningless today.
To thine own self be true.
That's why I think this may have legs.
This is all old news, really. We knew they had this capability. But if the major media are running this story, not deep-sixing it, maybe (I'm not at all confident, but just maybe) we're reaching a turning point where some of the abuse will be met with pushback. Even if they just turn it into some other angle to blame Russkies or the Donald or hippies or whatever, at least it would keep some in TPTB off-balance.
@MarilynW sometimes the MSM
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
They are irrelevant and they know it.
MSM is reporting it, but not accurately
It's coming out as an outrage that the CIA's secrets are being revealed to us.
And let's not forget 22,000 US installations
But what I'm most faux-surprised about is the calls for actual extrajudicial assassination on GOS.
For those who don't want to go over there, it starts out with:
From there, the debate seems to be whether it ought to be just Assange who is assassinated or whether it should be Putin as well. Ahhh, the sweet smell of liberalism in the morning.
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard
Ugh... I can't take them seriously.
So... Roman of them.
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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
That scene is thee funniest. (nm)
Gaaa, I went over there. It's not just Triple-B, but . . .
. . . if that gasbag coward wants to mouth off with his authoritarian sentiments, I say let him. I like society's enemies to paint themselves boldly.
Echo Chambers only resonate at specific frequencies.
TOP = home of the "democratic chicken hawks"
@SnappleBC They're following Hillary
Anyone who supports Hillary, even reluctantly, is also supporting this:
Start at 4:30
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
It's the same meme.
Whoever revealed to people of the United States that the CIA is spying on them and that the CIA can create false evidence that Russia is spying on the DNC, whoever reveals this is a threat to our national security.
It's the same as saying whoever revealed to us the fact that Bernie Sanders was defrauded by the DNC is a threat to our fair elections. Huh?
Sure... they've become more war-like than the Republicans
Then let's discuss the assassination of Assange... a normal citizen. Again, we are discussing the extrajudicial murder of someone.
It's not just excessive, brutal, and war-like. It's also criminal and a complete abandonment of the rule of law and due process. But again, those are not things the Democratic party or it's voters are real big on.
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard
@SnappleBC
Damn, I thought they were talking about taking out the CIA as a hazard to society and life on the planet!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
A new Snowden, but of the CIA
Good to know someone has picked up the banner
We are losing what is left of our democracy
So tell me, how does a virus implanted in everyone's computers/appliances to collect private data and send it to Langley comply with Amendment IV?
Capitalism has always been the rule of the people by the oligarchs. You only have two choices, eliminate them or restrict their power.
Excellent point. I would give you 20 thumbs up if I could.
We already know you are a DKos plant. That is why we are feeding
@#3
false information to you.
Yeah, but what's annoying
Information bubbles everywhere I turn. This site is better than most but there is still a community line and suggesting alternate lines of inquiry is... well... counter productive. At this point I use this site as my window into the independent world, GOS as my window into the lunacy of the Democratic world, and "the news" as my window into the establishment world. I have no idea if the Republican world even has any relevance any more.
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard
At this very moment, some heads are exploding at DKos from
cognitive dissonance over the recent stories by 'Putin's media'. It's a hoot to watch what's going down. Just look at this shiite from management.
Some of the rabble do seem to be self aware:
The following fellow almost got it right. Then he suffered a "mindf-k" of his own and smartly stepped right into his own shit.
To those of you liking to visit GOS,
~shrug~ I read GOS for the same reason I read MSM
It's a given that very little on DKOS is "reality based". But the current state of their delusion is worthwhile to know. Although honestly, until they get off the whole "russians under our beds" meme it's pretty boring.
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard
Nah. It's more like watching a train wreck in slow motion.
I rarely visit. SnappleBC made me take a peek. I poked around for a bit. The place has turned into a neoMcCarthyist paranoid schizophrenic insane asylum that's been taken over by the inmates. If DKos is a vehicle for electing more and better Democrats then the party will be fucked for at least two terms.
We live in a panopticon. If you think everything you do is being
watched and monitored, you will behave as if everything you do is watched and monitored.
But, the spying agencies collect so much data, they have effectively become blind in real time. Also,(as Snowdon has revealed) the spooks spend so much time watching the juicy bits that they have become inattentive to most real time threats. This is why they had completely missed Putin's hacking and subsequent coup of the American democratic system. Now all the spooks can do is watch the reruns to attempt to find out how he did it.
BTW, it is believed that the NSA, CIA and FBI now have the world's largest porn collection.
When you consider
how many they've screwed over the years, that's no surprise.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
As you were saying
Hey DYM, good to see you here
I am overwhelmed by the thought that the Collector of tons of private information is now smashed open by Wikileaks. But how can the CIA filter and access such a vast amount of our data in order to select that which is useful to them?
What about iPhones? I am about to buy the iPhone 7+ for its camera. (all I think about is myself.)
To thine own self be true.
I'm here, have been all along.
Just don't speak up all that much. As for this essay, I was surprised we didn't have anything up on it and thought that should be rectified.
About that iPhone, it looks like the safest bet to assume that any commercially available device has malware or backdoors or some way for TPTB to watch what you are doing. It just means we'll have to go back to face-to-face encounters to communicate anything important from now on, and that worked for millennia.
Wrong spot. Sorry
Face to face encounters can be dicey, too.
The Sons of Liberty met in homes and taverns to gather intel from British occupants and to plot rebellion. Those days are gone.
Government has very sensitive listening equipment. From outside, it can hear conversations inside buildings. (Think about news footage you've seen labeled "sound enhanced," for example.)
In my neighborhood, cameras are all over the streets at intervals. I don't know if those cameras have listening capability, but I would not be surprised. And that's not counting private security cameras that will be turned over to police on request.
BTW, how do we arrange for those face to face encounters? Telephone? Email?
This is exactly the kind of thing the 4th amendment was designed to prevent. Assuming anyone actually gave a crap about the Constitution, except when it's convenient so to do.
@HenryAWallace Face to face is still
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Sure, but, point is, even that can be dicey.
Shakespeare, The Tempest, Act 5, Scene 1
Carrier pigeon
Smoke signals. Even better if one creates a new language.
From a security standpoint
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard
Thank you! how much is the DNC paying you?
I could use a part-time job, need money for art supplies.
To thine own self be true.
Well, before my indiscretions
Apparently mentioning that I currently see the Democratic party as my enemy was enough to get me sacked
Humor aside, the point of this release is that NO product or platform is secure... nor is any application. But at least with Apple you can bet they'll try to figure out the vulnerabilities and get them fixed. Google's android is notoriously insecure and Microsoft, as I noted, has long been in active collusion with the intelligence community.
What's different with Apple is that they've taken this business of the US Government hacking US companies as a business threat so they've decided to protect their user's data, even against the US government, to the best of their ability.
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard
Thank you! I'm sticking with Apple
Sorry that you had your wings clipped in TOP. That was a beautiful logo you had there.
To thine own self be true.
I see you still use the eagle logo on the green globe,
but it is not as visible now.
To thine own self be true.
I'm not much of a consumer, but
I've never had any confidence in the "safety and security" of my computer. I regard everything I do on it as being very much in the public domaine. It seems foolish not to.
native
Looks like agency fight between CIA and NSA?
The CIA seems to be taking it to Trump. Where does the NSA stand?
One point about this latest leak is that it stands in contrast to the growing belief that the Russians are behind very hack and break in. Saw this unstated belief in Podesta's phishing attack. The media and democrats made it seem that only the Russians did nefarious shit on the web.
Who's been home hacking your computer while
you were out hacking theirs?
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@HenryAWallace That is made of win.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Thanks! Hackers need a theme song.
(The second line had too many syllables. I just fixed it.)
you missed to link to the Wikileak release, I think
here the press release from Wikileaks Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed
https://www.euronews.com/live
Does this mean the Russians have hacked the US hackers?
Damn, I'm impressed. This sure beats 11th dimensional chess.
As to any question about
why the CIA would want so much information and the capacity to mine and collect everyone's communications, I have always felt it was far less about the desire to spy on everyone, even though that power does of course chill dissent, but about the desire to eliminate the requirement for a warrant.
I had this thought at a point at which both George W. Bush and Dick Cheney publicly stated that if they had had the power to listen to the phone calls of the San Diego hijackers, they could have prevented 9/11. What was dishonest about their statements was that whistleblowers had already told Congress that they had listened to the phone calls of those hijackers. I don't think we know if they had warrants or not.
Bush and Cheney were trying to say the process of getting a warrant was too time-consuming. Why? Because they wanted our Deep State to be able to listen to such phone calls without there being any record of it in any court or government agency. The warrant is the problem because it is a government record.
They don't need to listen to everybody. We all know such a plan is pure overload and also an excuse for not homing in on their targets. They want to keep their work secret from the American people and from the American government, which is full of do-gooder whistleblowers.
Hence FISA
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
I'm saying
they don't even want FISA, which was in effect during the time intelligence was listening to the hijackers' phone calls. FISA is still a court and still has records of its warrants. I don't know of any information that establishes whether or not that surveillance was with or without a FISA warrant.
What Bush and Cheney were implying was that they were prevented from listening to the hijackers, meaning it didn't happen. But it did. Whistleblowers had already established that, and it was part of a Congressional investigation.
So Bush and Cheney were trying to accomplish two things. First, denial that our intelligence agencies knew anything about the hijackers in advance of 9/11. And second, they were trying to make a case fore henceforth having no impediments to their surveillance of terrorist suspects, no record, no court, no oversight.
We are all just peasants
People attacked me when I said that my right to vote was taken. "How would they know that you nacked Bernie instead of Her?"
Because I followed Bernie on instagram and on my computer.
I knew they were spying on us... I'm with CodePink and we found out that my daughter at the age of 8 had a freaking FBI file.
SOrry to have been gone for so long, work life, personal life and I work in medical marijuana and it's been a rough few months.
Bastards are raiding again.
"Love One Another" ~ George Harrison
Welcome back, DJ. Sorry about the grief.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Dear el, thank you
Many things happened all at once. My estranged father went missing and the VA
who allowed him to sign himself out then were outraged that a daughter didn't know her father's whereabouts... bastards.
But we did adopt a little rescue dog. He's a 4-6 year old terrier mix. Abandoned. Might've been slapped around a bit. He's settling in. Lots of hard work with him. Ob and all sorts of learning going on. We don't know his story. People in Oregon get a fine if they surrender their dog so they just lie and say they found a lost dog. So the rescuers don't have any background info to work with.
It's just been hard. Just getting up sometimes is hard. LOL And its hard to have any faith or respect or anything for just about everything. We're all suspects now.
As far as working in a dispensary, I work in the #1 one in our state. Was interviewed for it, pretty cool and then WHAM.. It's a huge risk now every day going into work BUT.... and here's the big but - we don't deal with Trumpsters.
Had to kick out an asshole because he was shouting "WHITE POWER" and that we drug dealers were going to get ours. But not too many Trump voters make it too long in a marijuana shop.
"Love One Another" ~ George Harrison
Hiya, DJ!
You came back for my little essay?
Good to see you again, really good, no matter what lured you hither.
BTW, the whole "how would they know?" question has
been addressed hundreds of times. They went after whole demographics which had a high Bernie support %.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
http://caucus99percent.com
http://caucus99percent.com/comment/reply/10364
Do please read in full at source - there's a video as well.
http://mattforney.com/dnc-leak-voter-fraud/
Also, with notes jotted below for anyone unable to watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC2Ytk6eKWY
According to the video text, 20 states reported hacking attempts, at least 3 of which have been traced to Homeland Security, which oversees the NSA with these being frantically blamed on Russia by such corrupt officials and complicit corporate/subverted once-independent media. This is suggested as potentially an attempt to frame Russia.
(My interjection: naturally, duped/complicit officials had no problem with this. And it was officially labelled as not due to a deeply corrupt system, of course - but both to a 'rogue' (not their fault) contractor conducting 'perfectly normal' searches of electoral data-bases during an election rigged right from at least one primary and justified because it was one of two 'private groups' determining a democracy's electoral choices against the will and interests of The People.)
Text says that DHS explained it was a rogue contractor conducting normal searches... and that Georgia (evidently not in on this deal) feels that Obama admin is covering this up and wants an investigation under Trump. Then, two more states confirmed attacks by the same DHS network. Text later states that the Alt media is digging into this, that being why censorship is being exerted, And later in the video, it's explained by an official that the problem with the explanation is that they 'haven't been able to recreate the situation as it's been explained to us'.
(My comment: now, as far as I can personally tell, these actual hacking attempts are not to be mentioned except as attributed to the disastrous results of public awareness of Corporate Dem corruption via email leaks prior to an election against equally corrupt and psychopathic Corporate Republicans in a rigged Two-Corporate-Party Trade-Off system and those emails released to the public by a judges order being claimed due to 'Russian hacking", even though the 'Russia hacked the election' claim seems to be shifted over to the emails...
(We must remember that this entire group of crazy-people are stupid and deluded enough to think that they personally can survive in continued luxury without a naturally self-sustaining global life-support system, that they can personally survive a 'limited' nuclear war-crime against multiple countries, when the rest of the still-corporate-free world will hardly wait to be picked off one by one by predatory psychopaths intent on totalitarian world domination even at the cost of its destruction in the process - or somewhat more slowly by corporate poisoning and other 'cost-cutting/profitable' abuses, if nonetheless destroying complex life and essential larger natural processes on the planet and the oxygen supply these produce (among other things, such as water/air purification, food and weather effects) and certainly within several decades with unrestrained military/corporate pollution and destruction.)
Text continues with further concerns regarding the 'rogue contractor doing normal stuff' explanations; Utah confirming penetration testing by DHS with Colorado reporting daily traffic from a user they're doing daily business with., seeing that IP address but their security systems have not flagged this as being malicious or abnormal. (My interjection: there are, of course, spy-agency back-doors, vulnerabilities and a lot of spyware and whatever else being pre-installed/regularly downloaded into all of our (stock) systems originally purchased from retailers specifically so that we'll be unaware/unable to protect ourselves against anyone taking advantage of these and making us all more easily hacked by anyone with the capacity and desire. Why would the corporate interests producing election infrastructure balk at this, when they're often big political donors/associated with such interests?) Video also states that there are also 9 other similar 'issues' requiring explanation around important election/primary dates.
Text: in Sept., the DHS blamed hacking attempts in 20 states on the Russians. The video produced someone who suggests that malware could have been introduced into one system by some bad actor to conduct attacks without the NSA's knowledge.
(My interjection: so, they're merely incompetent rather than corrupt or too busy digging for porn in the general population's emails? This type of excuse is thought to work for Hillary, not utterly, blindly greedy and corrupt but having a simple inability to learn from endless disastrous 'mistakes' which earn her lots of money. A big, proud, winning point for feminists everywhere! See, an incompetent woman can earn hundreds of millions toward the dream of corporate/billionaire-delegated global totalitarian power while screwing up everyone else and killing an awful lot of people. Just like some incompetent men!)
But the text points out that NSA whistleblower Edward Snowdon has already revealed that the NSA already has exploit servers all over the country... and shows a Snowdon text discussion about the NSA hacking friendly countries and universities to launch attacks on the victims - including Russia and China. The text asks if anyone has cross-referenced the NSA/DHS hosts revealed in the Shadow Brokers to other 17 states purportedly attacked by Russia, as well as the 3 in which these have been already identified.
It then shows the data, including the following summary: the Shadows Broker data dump revealed that the NSA has staging exploit servers in Russia, China, India, Japan, Taiwan, Pakistan and many other nations around the world, beneath a screen shot showing screen names, some directly (and here deceptively) identifying the countries of origin. (My interjection: all countries slated for military - likely nuclear - attack and take-over by corporate/billionaire-directed military force, since corporate economic hegemony had not yet been achieved here, and the excuse of purported hacking considered to be sufficient to end life on the planet in the largest crime ever planned, making Hitler look like a piker.)
The text then points out that the DHS would surely by now have detected any such malware on their servers since the attacks have been occurring since at least Feb.
I found this following interesting in that contains another reference to 17 intelligence agencies?
They're lucrative and privatized, so perhaps breeding? Maybe a special one to watch internet commenters, maybe to 'Correct The Record'? No idea, but wouldn't surprise me... they're control freaks, within the parasite class. They make me think of the host-killing Cordyceps... although those at least so not kill off all life, at least not so far.
Bu if there is another secret agency, what else has been passed against the public interest 'in quiet rooms'? The corporations and billionaires are certainly getting their death-wish-list as with the corporate coups labelled as trade bills, while Canada and other countries are still fighting traitorous corporate politicians attempting to pass these in Constitution-defying 'laws' in the form of the 'dead' TPP and others, all in violation of domestic law, citizen and human rights and defeating any possibility of human survival past this current century.
http://www.strangerdimensions.com/2013/05/28/cordyceps-the-most-terrifyi...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF5TomeiMrc
Trying to get this down in the hope it will be noticed by anyone having missed all this previously, so probably loaded with typos...
Edit to remove two vagrant and potentially misleading words hanging off the end of a sentence, where they'd wound up during reconstruction.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Hay on Particular Needles...
You only have to worry if you're effective.
Once you get effective, you can expect a hot light on you, and everything to be available.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
Whoa! Undermining Consumer Confidence? Traitors! If There is
one thing we cannot have is undermining consumer confidence.
That is going to make important people VERY angry.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
lol... Seriously?
It was Big Corporate that decided that Drumpf was OK to rent the Oval Office for a bit to give self government a black eye, but he wasn't to stay unless he played by the rules. He's still ruffling feathers, so he's got to go.
And WTF is this!?
Seriously? Our propaganda is so good we don't need ANYTHING else from anywhere -- we're exceptional. Hollywood and corporate news is not propaganda at all. WTF?
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
FISA is Retroactive Permission.
New Zealand or Australia gives you data or honors your request. You get the data, then you reverse engineer a compelling case without specifics.
Then you take that framework to FISA.
"Look, we know this guy is doing this. He's over there. We would like to investigate him."
"OK. Do it."
It's comically false and dishonest.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu