While Everyone Is Breathless about Russians . . .

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-03-07/cia-hackers-able-...

. . . Wikileaks has brought forth the first of multiple installments of alleged CIA documents (which all have so far indicated look to be the real thing), detailing the ways that the U.S. is spying upon others and upon its own citizens.

There's actually not much that will be news to folks who've been as observant as those at this site, but now the public gets to see it.

The trove shows CIA hackers are able to bypass encryption of applications including WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram and Confide by breaking into smartphones “that they run on and collecting audio and message traffic before encryption is applied,” WikiLeaks said in its analysis of the material.

Activists, journalists and others often turn to such outlets for secure communications, while terrorist groups such as Islamic State have used Telegram to go undetected. U.S. intelligence and law enforcement agencies have said that they need new powers to break into encrypted applications and devices.

The CIA also “runs a very substantial effort to infect and control” Microsoft Windows users with its malware, WikiLeaks said. It said the agency uses the U.S. consulate in Frankfurt, Germany, as a “covert base for its hackers” covering Europe, Middle East and Africa.

An earlier version of this Bloomberg story mentioned efforts to turn smart TVs into devices to watch us. There's some literary allusion in there, I think. The earlier story predicted many operatives will be changing or ending careers with this Wikileaks offering. One can only hope. . . .

The NYTimes elaborates . . .

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/world/europe/wikileaks-cia-hacking.html

WikiLeaks said the source, in a statement, set out policy questions that “urgently need to be debated in public, including whether the C.I.A.’s hacking capabilities exceed its mandated powers and the problem of public oversight of the agency.” The source, the group said, “wishes to initiate a public debate about the security, creation, use, proliferation and democratic control of cyberweapons.”

The documents, from the C.I.A’s Center for Cyber Intelligence, are dated from 2013 to 2016, and WikiLeaks described them as “the largest ever publication of confidential documents on the agency.” One former intelligence officer who briefly reviewed the documents on Tuesday morning said some of the code names for C.I.A. programs, an organization chart and the description of a C.I.A. hacking base appeared to be genuine.

Some of the details of the C.I.A. programs might have come from the plot of a spy novel for the cyberage, revealing numerous highly classified — and in some cases, exotic — hacking programs. One, code-named Weeping Angel, uses Samsung “smart” televisions as covert listening devices. According to the WikiLeaks news release, even when it appears to be turned off, the television “operates as a bug, recording conversations in the room and sending them over the internet to a covert C.I.A. server.”

The release said the program was developed in cooperation with British intelligence.

This also would appear to bode some impact on device sales to consumers. Or at least that's what gets the people at CBS fretting.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/wikileaks-cia-documents-released-cyber-intel...

It was not immediately clear how WikiLeaks obtained the information, code-named “Vault7,” which included more than 8,700 documents and files. The CIA tools, if authentic, could undermine the confidence that consumers have in the safety and security of their computers, mobile devices and even smart TVs.

WikiLeaks said the material came from “an isolated, high-security network situated inside the CIA’s Center for Cyber Intelligence in Langley, Virginia.” It didn’t say how the files were removed, such as possibly by a rogue employee, by hacking a federal contractor working for the CIA or breaking into a staging server where such hacking tools might be temporarily stored.

It's gonna get kinda confusing for a spell, what with the hackers who are hacking the hackers while our hackers' bosses decry another nation's hacking.

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detroitmechworks's picture

It wasn't just my imagination that computers are getting worse and worse as time goes on, and they were taking more and more control from the users.

If you can't repair it, you don't own it.

Quite happy with my home built machine. Go fuck yourself CIA.

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@detroitmechworks

. . . if they aren't out to get ya. And when was the CIA ever not out to get everybody?

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@detroitmechworks the CIA has infected not only Windows based devices, but also Mac, Android and even Linux systems (though they may be better off than people stuck in Windows hell).

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@Steven D Although I turned off Updates a LOOOONG time ago, installed firewalls, and did everything a layman can do, sans hard encryption.

Besides, I'm already on their watch list as a potential white supremacist/nationalist Terrorist (Thanks Obama), so I expect to be watched, and how are you doing today Mr. Jones?

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          I'm already on their watch list ...

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Dunno what you have, but there are automatic updates being imposed willy-nilly upon even Windows 7 users, and they just show up. I have always assumed that these are almost certainly spyware of some variety. But I speak as a computer illiterate and it would be nice to think that people who know what they're doing can avoid these updates, which never specify what they're for or anything other than the fact that they're loading.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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@Ellen North for the most part. Managed to get rid of the (Upgrade to windows 10) update last year with no problems, and the only stuff I've installed from Microsoft is OLD stuff from XP that I run in old compatibility mode. (Applocale mostly, a great program that Microsoft destroyed because of its usefulness. Allows you to set your computer to any location in the world...

Aaaaaand I've just realized why they tried to get rid of that program.

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@Steven D
That's like just handing them the keys.
Same with Android and Google.
Apple is a little better, but not nearly as secure as Mac users tend to think.
Linux is still the safest, but you have to be careful.

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@detroitmechworks
...to buy a Faraday Bag.
They can't do anything with my phone if signals can't reach it.

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@detroitmechworks Need to get out of Microsoft OS.

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--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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Not only is the CIA dangerous, but they are incompetent. According to the story, hundreds of hackers, state actors and criminals as well as run of the mill independent hackers now have access to these CIA hacking programs, malware, etc. thanks to their "contractors" selling them or releasing them on the open market.

The CIA needs to be flushed. The NSA program is bad enough, but the CIA essentially duplicated much of what the NSA already did for their own nefarious purposes. No device you own is safe, no virus protection can protect you from this shit, no encryption programs that you can obtain or buy are worth a damn.

This is a failure of monumental proportions on so many levels, morally, legally, politically, etc. etc. etc. And all of it will get swept under the rug by the MSM. We are headed for some really bad shit in the months and years to come. This is just one more example of humanity having lost control over our own destiny.

It also sheds a whole new light on the CIA's claims Russia "hacked" the election, since one of the CIA programs (i.e., code named "Umbrage") can use other country's cyber weapons (Russia, China, and god knows who else) to obscure the fact that the CIA was the real actor, the real enemy of the people at home and abroad.

It's ever more clear to me that we are slaves, better off than the slaves in poor countries, but slaves nonetheless, and as our economic situation continues to decline we are likely to see US society devolve into the worst of the worst countries for people in which to live unless they are ultra-rich or serve the ultra-rich. Not sure if anything can stop this downward spiral at this point. Certainly not traditional activism or politics as usual.

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@Steven D The only reason they can stay in power is the combination of fear of homelessness and prison, and lots and lots of distraction. Soon, Prison will be the closest thing we have to affordable housing

The problem is they keep lowering the quality of the Circuses and upping the price. Eventually, even the photorealistic virtual worlds won't be enough to hide the growling belly you need to have in order to afford it.

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and families pay for their kids being put in juvenile detention in too many places now.

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@Steven D
It's MSM, aka Bloomberg, NYT, CBS that is breaking the story. I think MSM is an antiquated catch all phrase that is meaningless today.

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This is all old news, really. We knew they had this capability. But if the major media are running this story, not deep-sixing it, maybe (I'm not at all confident, but just maybe) we're reaching a turning point where some of the abuse will be met with pushback. Even if they just turn it into some other angle to blame Russkies or the Donald or hippies or whatever, at least it would keep some in TPTB off-balance.

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@MarilynW sometimes the MSM breaks the story because it's already been broken on social media and blogs. If too many people start talking about it elsewhere, they feel the need to cover it to get control of the narrative and avoid being made irrelevant.

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal After all, they report the "news" even when it's been buried for decades and not new.

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It's coming out as an outrage that the CIA's secrets are being revealed to us.

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But what I'm most faux-surprised about is the calls for actual extrajudicial assassination on GOS.

For those who don't want to go over there, it starts out with:

The Defense Establishment needs to understand that this is an act of war. They should take it just as seriously as if Wikileaks had sent special forces into Langley. Clearly American cyber defense has been breached and compromised and is not up to the task of defending this country.

They have to take serious, lethal action.
-- BrooklynBadBoy

From there, the debate seems to be whether it ought to be just Assange who is assassinated or whether it should be Putin as well. Ahhh, the sweet smell of liberalism in the morning.

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@SnappleBC Of course, somehow WE'RE the hateful ones because we think that maybe it would be better if we didn't kill people.

So... Roman of them.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPGb4STRfKw]

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. . . if that gasbag coward wants to mouth off with his authoritarian sentiments, I say let him. I like society's enemies to paint themselves boldly.

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@SnappleBC

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@SnappleBC TOP is very pro-war now. Obama and in particular Hillary's legacy.

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@SnappleBC They're following Hillary's lead on that. This should not surprise anybody.

Anyone who supports Hillary, even reluctantly, is also supporting this:

Start at 4:30

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@SnappleBC

the debate seems to be whether it ought to be just Assange who is assassinated or whether it should be Putin as well.

Whoever revealed to people of the United States that the CIA is spying on them and that the CIA can create false evidence that Russia is spying on the DNC, whoever reveals this is a threat to our national security.

It's the same as saying whoever revealed to us the fact that Bernie Sanders was defrauded by the DNC is a threat to our fair elections. Huh?

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@Linda Wood But honestly... calls for assassination? That is, without any question whatsoever, calls for international crimes. The "proper" way to do this is that if you perceive another nation-state to be your enemy you declare war on them, not assassinate their leaders.

Then let's discuss the assassination of Assange... a normal citizen. Again, we are discussing the extrajudicial murder of someone.

It's not just excessive, brutal, and war-like. It's also criminal and a complete abandonment of the rule of law and due process. But again, those are not things the Democratic party or it's voters are real big on.

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@SnappleBC

Damn, I thought they were talking about taking out the CIA as a hazard to society and life on the planet!

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Good to know someone has picked up the banner

It didn’t say how the files were removed, such as possibly by a rogue employee, by hacking a federal contractor working for the CIA

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Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

So tell me, how does a virus implanted in everyone's computers/appliances to collect private data and send it to Langley comply with Amendment IV?

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Capitalism has always been the rule of the people by the oligarchs. You only have two choices, eliminate them or restrict their power.

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@The Wizard

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@#3
false information to you.

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@CB Is I still haven't received any of those high dollar checks I keep hearing about. But hey, if you suggest a [historically] well respected security researcher might be worth reading then you are obviously a plant.

Information bubbles everywhere I turn. This site is better than most but there is still a community line and suggesting alternate lines of inquiry is... well... counter productive. At this point I use this site as my window into the independent world, GOS as my window into the lunacy of the Democratic world, and "the news" as my window into the establishment world. I have no idea if the Republican world even has any relevance any more.

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@SnappleBC
cognitive dissonance over the recent stories by 'Putin's media'. It's a hoot to watch what's going down. Just look at this shiite from management. ROFL

Here's a shocker: Russia reveling in Trump disaster
By Laura Clawson
What do you know. It’s not that Russia was rooting for Donald Trump himself so much as it was rooting for instability and incompetence taking over the United States, and Trump looked like the best vehicle for that.

Some of the rabble do seem to be self aware:

mstep Fatherflot
Mar 07 · 08:38:42 AM

Now we are the joke that is making people all over the world laugh.

brooklynbadboy
Mar 07 · 07:06:33 AM

You gotta hand it to Russia. They've definitely exposed weaknesses in western democracies. Nobody wants to talk about what is at the root of these weaknesses, which is the weakness of the West's people. We've grown old, tired, fat, lazy, and nonchalant about the post war order. We've taken individual freedom, popular sovereignty, private property and market economy for granted. It seemed like when the Berlin Wall fell we were headed for a long run of expansion of the American way of life around the world. But now we have our people actively fighting against that way of life at home and Russia is actively encouraging it.

Seems with the passing away of the World War 2 generation all the lessons learned are being forgotten.

The following fellow almost got it right. Then he suffered a "mindf-k" of his own and smartly stepped right into his own shit.

The Geogre
Mar 07 · 08:01:42 AM

Careful.

We can’t read Russian media’s praise or dispraise of Trump as anything. This is, after all, their game — propaganda — and Americans are poor producers and consumers of it. We’re pikers compared to them.

Since the Kremlin gave an official “nix/nyet” on Trump, we can’t know why they did it. They may have done it precisely to hide their elation with Trump and make him seem more like an American president than he is. They may have done it because they’re really displeased with his off-the-hat remarks.

Simply put, the only way to read Russian media is, “A mindf—k.”

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@CB you must be the type of person who goes to horror movies--or perhaps just dark comedy.

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@Alligator Ed I find it useful to know what lies the establishment is pushing today. It tells me what things I might want to dig into to find the truth of myself.

It's a given that very little on DKOS is "reality based". But the current state of their delusion is worthwhile to know. Although honestly, until they get off the whole "russians under our beds" meme it's pretty boring.

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@Alligator Ed
I rarely visit. SnappleBC made me take a peek. I poked around for a bit. The place has turned into a neoMcCarthyist paranoid schizophrenic insane asylum that's been taken over by the inmates. If DKos is a vehicle for electing more and better Democrats then the party will be fucked for at least two terms.

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watched and monitored, you will behave as if everything you do is watched and monitored.

But, the spying agencies collect so much data, they have effectively become blind in real time. Also,(as Snowdon has revealed) the spooks spend so much time watching the juicy bits that they have become inattentive to most real time threats. This is why they had completely missed Putin's hacking and subsequent coup of the American democratic system. Now all the spooks can do is watch the reruns to attempt to find out how he did it.

BTW, it is believed that the NSA, CIA and FBI now have the world's largest porn collection.

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@CB
how many they've screwed over the years, that's no surprise.

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I am overwhelmed by the thought that the Collector of tons of private information is now smashed open by Wikileaks. But how can the CIA filter and access such a vast amount of our data in order to select that which is useful to them?

What about iPhones? I am about to buy the iPhone 7+ for its camera. (all I think about is myself.)

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Just don't speak up all that much. As for this essay, I was surprised we didn't have anything up on it and thought that should be rectified.

About that iPhone, it looks like the safest bet to assume that any commercially available device has malware or backdoors or some way for TPTB to watch what you are doing. It just means we'll have to go back to face-to-face encounters to communicate anything important from now on, and that worked for millennia.

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The Sons of Liberty met in homes and taverns to gather intel from British occupants and to plot rebellion. Those days are gone.

Government has very sensitive listening equipment. From outside, it can hear conversations inside buildings. (Think about news footage you've seen labeled "sound enhanced," for example.)

In my neighborhood, cameras are all over the streets at intervals. I don't know if those cameras have listening capability, but I would not be surprised. And that's not counting private security cameras that will be turned over to police on request.

BTW, how do we arrange for those face to face encounters? Telephone? Email?

This is exactly the kind of thing the 4th amendment was designed to prevent. Assuming anyone actually gave a crap about the Constitution, except when it's convenient so to do.

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@HenryAWallace Face to face is still best.

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--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

.....O brave new world,
That has such people in ’t!

Shakespeare, The Tempest, Act 5, Scene 1

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@MarilynW Apple devices are the best out of the box. The reason for that is Apple has taken the US Government's spying as a direct threat to their business and they are actively countering it. In this case it turns out that the spooks know of vulnerabilities that Apple does not. But at least Apple will try to counter them. Microsoft and Google are much more cooperative... in the case of Microsoft A LOT more cooperative.... as in active ally to the security community.

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@SnappleBC
I could use a part-time job, need money for art supplies. Wink

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@MarilynW @MarilynW They used to pay me in yachts. But sadly...

Apparently mentioning that I currently see the Democratic party as my enemy was enough to get me sacked Sad

Humor aside, the point of this release is that NO product or platform is secure... nor is any application. But at least with Apple you can bet they'll try to figure out the vulnerabilities and get them fixed. Google's android is notoriously insecure and Microsoft, as I noted, has long been in active collusion with the intelligence community.

What's different with Apple is that they've taken this business of the US Government hacking US companies as a business threat so they've decided to protect their user's data, even against the US government, to the best of their ability.

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@SnappleBC
Sorry that you had your wings clipped in TOP. That was a beautiful logo you had there.

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@MarilynW
but it is not as visible now.

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To thine own self be true.

I've never had any confidence in the "safety and security" of my computer. I regard everything I do on it as being very much in the public domaine. It seems foolish not to.

"The CIA tools, if authentic, could undermine the confidence that consumers have in the safety and security of their computers, mobile devices and even smart TVs."

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The CIA seems to be taking it to Trump. Where does the NSA stand?

One point about this latest leak is that it stands in contrast to the growing belief that the Russians are behind very hack and break in. Saw this unstated belief in Podesta's phishing attack. The media and democrats made it seem that only the Russians did nefarious shit on the web.

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you were out hacking theirs?

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RueCun_Bh8 width:400 height:350]

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@HenryAWallace That is made of win.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

(The second line had too many syllables. I just fixed it.)

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here the press release from Wikileaks Vault 7: CIA Hacking Tools Revealed

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Damn, I'm impressed. This sure beats 11th dimensional chess.

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why the CIA would want so much information and the capacity to mine and collect everyone's communications, I have always felt it was far less about the desire to spy on everyone, even though that power does of course chill dissent, but about the desire to eliminate the requirement for a warrant.

I had this thought at a point at which both George W. Bush and Dick Cheney publicly stated that if they had had the power to listen to the phone calls of the San Diego hijackers, they could have prevented 9/11. What was dishonest about their statements was that whistleblowers had already told Congress that they had listened to the phone calls of those hijackers. I don't think we know if they had warrants or not.

Bush and Cheney were trying to say the process of getting a warrant was too time-consuming. Why? Because they wanted our Deep State to be able to listen to such phone calls without there being any record of it in any court or government agency. The warrant is the problem because it is a government record.

They don't need to listen to everybody. We all know such a plan is pure overload and also an excuse for not homing in on their targets. They want to keep their work secret from the American people and from the American government, which is full of do-gooder whistleblowers.

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@enhydra lutris
they don't even want FISA, which was in effect during the time intelligence was listening to the hijackers' phone calls. FISA is still a court and still has records of its warrants. I don't know of any information that establishes whether or not that surveillance was with or without a FISA warrant.

What Bush and Cheney were implying was that they were prevented from listening to the hijackers, meaning it didn't happen. But it did. Whistleblowers had already established that, and it was part of a Congressional investigation.

So Bush and Cheney were trying to accomplish two things. First, denial that our intelligence agencies knew anything about the hijackers in advance of 9/11. And second, they were trying to make a case fore henceforth having no impediments to their surveillance of terrorist suspects, no record, no court, no oversight.

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People attacked me when I said that my right to vote was taken. "How would they know that you nacked Bernie instead of Her?"

Because I followed Bernie on instagram and on my computer.

I knew they were spying on us... I'm with CodePink and we found out that my daughter at the age of 8 had a freaking FBI file.

SOrry to have been gone for so long, work life, personal life and I work in medical marijuana and it's been a rough few months.

Bastards are raiding again.

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@Damnit Janet

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@enhydra lutris

Many things happened all at once. My estranged father went missing and the VA
who allowed him to sign himself out then were outraged that a daughter didn't know her father's whereabouts... bastards.

But we did adopt a little rescue dog. He's a 4-6 year old terrier mix. Abandoned. Might've been slapped around a bit. He's settling in. Lots of hard work with him. Ob and all sorts of learning going on. We don't know his story. People in Oregon get a fine if they surrender their dog so they just lie and say they found a lost dog. So the rescuers don't have any background info to work with.

It's just been hard. Just getting up sometimes is hard. LOL And its hard to have any faith or respect or anything for just about everything. We're all suspects now.

As far as working in a dispensary, I work in the #1 one in our state. Smile Was interviewed for it, pretty cool and then WHAM.. It's a huge risk now every day going into work BUT.... and here's the big but - we don't deal with Trumpsters.

Had to kick out an asshole because he was shouting "WHITE POWER" and that we drug dealers were going to get ours. But not too many Trump voters make it too long in a marijuana shop.

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@Damnit Janet

You came back for my little essay? Smile

Good to see you again, really good, no matter what lured you hither.

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@Damnit Janet
been addressed hundreds of times. They went after whole demographics which had a high Bernie support %.

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@Damnit Janet

Do please read in full at source - there's a video as well.

http://mattforney.com/dnc-leak-voter-fraud/

DNC Leak Reveals System for Automated Voter Fraud

September 14, 2016 /
Videos Worldview /
By Matt Forney

UPDATE: Twitter is attempting to ban me for my analysis of the DNC leaks. Click here to learn more.

I’ve obtained evidence via Wikileaks’ recent DNC leak that the Democratic Party’s state data swapping program enables the party to commit automated voter fraud on a massive scale.

The DNC’s system enables them to delete voters from the rolls, change their registration or anything they want.

The DNC likely used the system against Bernie Sanders’ supporters in the primary this year.
The DNC’s “database” is designed to facilitate voter fraud.

The file in question was brought to my attention by a contact of mine, who had this to say:

One document specifies how the state swap program is run. Basically, this allows a DNC API to exchange and update data between states’ voter rolls twice a year!

This is how purges happen, this is how voters are targeted and registrations switched, or voters made invalid due to any number of changes by this automated system. This is how Bernie Sanders voters got removed from voter rolls and party affiliations switched. ...

Also, with notes jotted below for anyone unable to watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC2Ytk6eKWY

DHS Election Hacking Scandal Expands to More States

Alexander Higgins

Published on 18 Dec 2016

http://alexanderhiggins.com/dhs-hack/ - In response to an inquiry from Georgia 4 more states confirm traffic from the DHS network that hacked Georgia's election system.

Kentucky and West Virginia have discovered unsolicited and unauthorized access from the United States Department of Homeland Security network that the State of Georgia says blames for trying to hack their election system 10 times since February.

The news comes following reports in September that Russia was behind attempt election hacks in 20 states which NSA whistle blower Edward Snowden warned could easily be pinned on Russia by the NSA, which is part of the Department of Homeland Security.

The two states reported the unauthorized activity in response to an inquiry from Georgia's Secretary of State Brian Kemp which also revealed that Colorado and Utah had authorized the DHS to scan their networks.

According to the video text, 20 states reported hacking attempts, at least 3 of which have been traced to Homeland Security, which oversees the NSA with these being frantically blamed on Russia by such corrupt officials and complicit corporate/subverted once-independent media. This is suggested as potentially an attempt to frame Russia.

(My interjection: naturally, duped/complicit officials had no problem with this. And it was officially labelled as not due to a deeply corrupt system, of course - but both to a 'rogue' (not their fault) contractor conducting 'perfectly normal' searches of electoral data-bases during an election rigged right from at least one primary and justified because it was one of two 'private groups' determining a democracy's electoral choices against the will and interests of The People.)

Text says that DHS explained it was a rogue contractor conducting normal searches... and that Georgia (evidently not in on this deal) feels that Obama admin is covering this up and wants an investigation under Trump. Then, two more states confirmed attacks by the same DHS network. Text later states that the Alt media is digging into this, that being why censorship is being exerted, And later in the video, it's explained by an official that the problem with the explanation is that they 'haven't been able to recreate the situation as it's been explained to us'.

(My comment: now, as far as I can personally tell, these actual hacking attempts are not to be mentioned except as attributed to the disastrous results of public awareness of Corporate Dem corruption via email leaks prior to an election against equally corrupt and psychopathic Corporate Republicans in a rigged Two-Corporate-Party Trade-Off system and those emails released to the public by a judges order being claimed due to 'Russian hacking", even though the 'Russia hacked the election' claim seems to be shifted over to the emails...

(We must remember that this entire group of crazy-people are stupid and deluded enough to think that they personally can survive in continued luxury without a naturally self-sustaining global life-support system, that they can personally survive a 'limited' nuclear war-crime against multiple countries, when the rest of the still-corporate-free world will hardly wait to be picked off one by one by predatory psychopaths intent on totalitarian world domination even at the cost of its destruction in the process - or somewhat more slowly by corporate poisoning and other 'cost-cutting/profitable' abuses, if nonetheless destroying complex life and essential larger natural processes on the planet and the oxygen supply these produce (among other things, such as water/air purification, food and weather effects) and certainly within several decades with unrestrained military/corporate pollution and destruction.)

Text continues with further concerns regarding the 'rogue contractor doing normal stuff' explanations; Utah confirming penetration testing by DHS with Colorado reporting daily traffic from a user they're doing daily business with., seeing that IP address but their security systems have not flagged this as being malicious or abnormal. (My interjection: there are, of course, spy-agency back-doors, vulnerabilities and a lot of spyware and whatever else being pre-installed/regularly downloaded into all of our (stock) systems originally purchased from retailers specifically so that we'll be unaware/unable to protect ourselves against anyone taking advantage of these and making us all more easily hacked by anyone with the capacity and desire. Why would the corporate interests producing election infrastructure balk at this, when they're often big political donors/associated with such interests?) Video also states that there are also 9 other similar 'issues' requiring explanation around important election/primary dates.

Text: in Sept., the DHS blamed hacking attempts in 20 states on the Russians. The video produced someone who suggests that malware could have been introduced into one system by some bad actor to conduct attacks without the NSA's knowledge.

(My interjection: so, they're merely incompetent rather than corrupt or too busy digging for porn in the general population's emails? This type of excuse is thought to work for Hillary, not utterly, blindly greedy and corrupt but having a simple inability to learn from endless disastrous 'mistakes' which earn her lots of money. A big, proud, winning point for feminists everywhere! See, an incompetent woman can earn hundreds of millions toward the dream of corporate/billionaire-delegated global totalitarian power while screwing up everyone else and killing an awful lot of people. Just like some incompetent men!)

But the text points out that NSA whistleblower Edward Snowdon has already revealed that the NSA already has exploit servers all over the country... and shows a Snowdon text discussion about the NSA hacking friendly countries and universities to launch attacks on the victims - including Russia and China. The text asks if anyone has cross-referenced the NSA/DHS hosts revealed in the Shadow Brokers to other 17 states purportedly attacked by Russia, as well as the 3 in which these have been already identified.

It then shows the data, including the following summary: the Shadows Broker data dump revealed that the NSA has staging exploit servers in Russia, China, India, Japan, Taiwan, Pakistan and many other nations around the world, beneath a screen shot showing screen names, some directly (and here deceptively) identifying the countries of origin. (My interjection: all countries slated for military - likely nuclear - attack and take-over by corporate/billionaire-directed military force, since corporate economic hegemony had not yet been achieved here, and the excuse of purported hacking considered to be sufficient to end life on the planet in the largest crime ever planned, making Hitler look like a piker.)

The text then points out that the DHS would surely by now have detected any such malware on their servers since the attacks have been occurring since at least Feb.

I found this following interesting in that contains another reference to 17 intelligence agencies?

They're lucrative and privatized, so perhaps breeding? Maybe a special one to watch internet commenters, maybe to 'Correct The Record'? No idea, but wouldn't surprise me... they're control freaks, within the parasite class. They make me think of the host-killing Cordyceps... although those at least so not kill off all life, at least not so far.

Bu if there is another secret agency, what else has been passed against the public interest 'in quiet rooms'? The corporations and billionaires are certainly getting their death-wish-list as with the corporate coups labelled as trade bills, while Canada and other countries are still fighting traitorous corporate politicians attempting to pass these in Constitution-defying 'laws' in the form of the 'dead' TPP and others, all in violation of domestic law, citizen and human rights and defeating any possibility of human survival past this current century.

http://www.strangerdimensions.com/2013/05/28/cordyceps-the-most-terrifyi...

Cordyceps: The Most Terrifying Fungus You’ve Ever Seen
By Rob Schwarz on May 28, 2013 // Science

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF5TomeiMrc

The Truth About Fake News | Russia Hacked U.S. Election For Donald Trump?
Stefan Molyneux

Published on 10 Dec 2016
MP3: http://www.fdrpodcasts.com/#/3527/the...
Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/stefan-molyneu...

The Washington Post and New York Times drove the news cycle publishing claims based on “high level” sources with access to a recent intelligence security briefing involving the allegations of Russian involvement in attempting to influence the United States election. Stefan Molyneux looks at the facts behind the latest mainstream media assertions, the logical holes in the argument presented from sources privy to the high level CIA briefings, claims that the Republican National Committee (RNC) was also hacked, the weaponized IRS targeting conservative groups, Portman-Murphy Counter-Propaganda Bill, the National Defense Authorization Act, Hillary Clinton takes donations in congestion with approving Russia's accusation of Uranium One, Amazon Founder and CEO Jeff Bezos undisclosed $600 million contract with the Central Intelligence Agency, Operation Mockingbird and much much more!

Trying to get this down in the hope it will be noticed by anyone having missed all this previously, so probably loaded with typos...

Edit to remove two vagrant and potentially misleading words hanging off the end of a sentence, where they'd wound up during reconstruction.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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You only have to worry if you're effective.

Once you get effective, you can expect a hot light on you, and everything to be available.

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one thing we cannot have is undermining consumer confidence.

That is going to make important people VERY angry.

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"What do you know. It’s not that Russia was rooting for Donald Trump himself so much as it was rooting for instability and incompetence taking over the United States, and Trump looked like the best vehicle for that."

It was Big Corporate that decided that Drumpf was OK to rent the Oval Office for a bit to give self government a black eye, but he wasn't to stay unless he played by the rules. He's still ruffling feathers, so he's got to go.

And WTF is this!?

We can’t read Russian media’s praise or dispraise of Trump as anything. This is, after all, their game — propaganda — and Americans are poor producers and consumers of it. We’re pikers compared to them.

Seriously? Our propaganda is so good we don't need ANYTHING else from anywhere -- we're exceptional. Hollywood and corporate news is not propaganda at all. WTF?

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New Zealand or Australia gives you data or honors your request. You get the data, then you reverse engineer a compelling case without specifics.

Then you take that framework to FISA.

"Look, we know this guy is doing this. He's over there. We would like to investigate him."

"OK. Do it."

It's comically false and dishonest.

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