Has This All Gone Too Far?

I'm a bit worried about the state of America at the moment. My friends and family are suggesting we should invoke Article 25 to have DJT removed from office. After 9 days of being President.

This strikes me as being a bit harsh, because I don't see any "the republic is on the brink" reasons to invoke this clause for the first time in the nation's history. By the way, this is by no means a defense of DJT or his henchmen, or his negligently underqualified cabinet.

Beyond the rationale for removal, it's more than unrealistic to suggest a 25th Amendment removal because it requires the vice-president to join with one of the legislative bodies in declaring the president unfit. Do you really think that could happen after one week in office? The Democrats can't even bring themselves to withhold Senatorial consent, but in confirmation of the Left's wholesale detachment from reality, the idea is being floated earnestly.

Does anyone really think removing Trump from office is a rational idea? Based on what, exactly? Did any of those reasons exist before he won the election, or before he won the nomination? Why weren't those reasons brought forward with as much vehemence then? Wouldn't that be the logical thing to do?

We didn't see a million people on the mall when Trump lied his ass off during the GOP debates because the Democrats were too busy rubbing their hands with glee in hopes that he would become the GOP nominee.

But as soon as he won the election, boom! You never knew there was so much outrage.

To paraphrase the Democrats circa 2016, 'we want Trump to be the candidate but if he wins it's unacceptable.'

DJT scares me, but the cognitive dissonance from the Left scares me even more. There's a difference between being the loyal opposition and an irrational expectation that the President should be removed from office after a week.

I see a pattern here, beginning with the protests of the election results, morphing into support for a recount, then encouraging faithless electors to install HRC, then impeachment and now this Article 25 b.s. None of these paths has a speck of a chance but they are all being worked in succession.

There hasn't been a single thing that he's done since the election where the Left didn't go ZOMG!!! The way I see it, it doesn't matter what he does because the reaction is going to be exactly the same. The driving forces behind Trump opposition aren't really reacting to anything as they are just sowing the seeds of revolution and deligitimacy. They accuse his governing style of being a coup d'etat when they themselves are planning that very thing.

I would say that for the past 20 years there HAS been a silent coup on the U.S. Government. That's my working hypothesis here, one which I've been working on for a few months: The coup happened 20 years ago when no one was paying attention. The government is no longer of, by and for the people, but for the special interests and big power. Every President, nearly every member of Congress, is a corrupt traitor. Does it really matter how right I am? The facts remain, Congressmen have an uncanny ability to amass great wealth while in office, the working class has actually had negative wage growth, due largely in part to trade deals made by these same congressmen. You can see the proof every day in America.

Meanwhile an obvious miscarriage of justice has occurred, swept under the rug as it were, amid a public internal battle testing loyalties within our intelligence agencies. Think about that for a minute - within the FBI and the CIA there are two factions vying for power. James Comey made a significant announcement before the election based on salient new evidence which he claims to have seen. Some say he way lying, which is to say he invented the entire thing and then called a press conference two weeks before the election in an attempt to install a candidate who is in league with the Russians. That would make James Comey the most despicable man in United States' history.

Hillary had classified documents on her private server which could only have been manually removed from a secure government location, she should be in prison with no if's and's or butts. But that's just the tip of the iceberg as far as transgressions at the state department, where Huma was coordinating Clinton Foundation donations with State Department access. WTF? How could that get swept under the rug? But it's not just Hillary, Obama has his own shit, and we all know Dick Cheney is the poster boy for government graft. NAFTA sold the country down the river and the corporations took the receipts.

I only offer these facts suggesting a treasonous government in order to posit the question: If there really was treason at the highest levels of the government, how would one go about fixing the problem? If most of congress and the past 3 presidents were in league to self enrichen, how could one possibly uncover and resolve that? The situation is neigh impossible to resolve barring an actual coup.

But what would it look like? First, you'd have to have a self-financed candidate win the election without becoming beholden to the power elite who manipulate the media and hence popular sentiment...

I won't spoon feed you the details, but my point is that one would expect our deus ex machina to look a lot like DJT, and the reaction from anyone facing justice would be to orchestrate the Left to begin a pre-emptive attack upon the one meting out that justice, exactly like the protests of the past 90 days.

I don't profess to know whether Trump is gonna be the best thing for America, or the worst. What I do know is that someone has a lot to gain by building a massive resistance to Trump, and that person is trying to play us.

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@MrWebster What should happen is that the "left" (in this case anyone opposed to Trump) should take their lumps, protest if they need to in order to voice their displeasure, and think about what they did wrong and why they lost. What should happen and what will happen are unfortunately unrelated. As we've seen, much of the "left" has descended into madness as the original essay pointed out. There are true progressives (like those on this site) who see behind the curtain and have a better understanding of the big picture, however they are outnumbered by the faux-progressives who are currently losing their minds, and the corporate Democrats who are basically saying "Nothing to see here, move along".

Of that latter group, Pelosi seems to be an endless supply of amusement. First her comment about Democrats not really wanting a new direction, and now she's claiming that Wall Street doesn't back Democrats.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/feb/01/nancy-pel...

With friends like that, who needs enemies?

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@MrWebster It will be President Pence, an upsurge of violence around the country, and all the justification President Pence needs to upgrade the police state a couple more times.

A religious fanatic with the powers of a police state in his hands, and a ready-made excuse to put it on steroids. Now that's something to aim for. Think it can't get worse?

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my only points were that I agree with CStS that DT often purposely uses the protests and media as a foil; and, I agree with edg that the reporting indicated that Harley called off the trip due to their concern(s) about protesters.

The piece you posted an excerpt from, refers to the CNN piece (below) which states this rather explicitly,

Washington (CNN) President Donald Trump will not head to Milwaukee for a previously scheduled visit of a Harley-Davidson factory after the company decided it wasn't comfortable hosting him amid planned protests, an administration official said Tuesday.

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