Daily Kos and Tulsi Gabbard visit to Syria

Submitted by fakenews on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 8:26am

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/1/26/1625555/-Rep-Tulsi-Gabbard-has-turned-into-a-stooge-for-Syria-s-dictator-Who-will-primary-her

It is with great dismay that I read on KOS the David Nir piece on Tulsi Gabbard's visit to Syria. If this piece demonstrates nothing except the complete takeover of KOS by paid shills arguing with each it surely demonstrates that the Democrats are a lost party. In all my years of being a Dem, and I mean to tell you it goes way back to the 60's with cheering for each new SCOTUS ruling that we won, I have never been so embarrassed to see the party flail so wildly - grabbing onto each negative piece of media trash that comes along. What are we now? - the party of WAR?? Do the Democrats (I'm no longer one) actually want a war in Syria? That's what a "safe zone" would involve - just another false target for the US to post up to prove just how horrible their own "terrorists" are? This is terrible and the first time in months that I have actually read any KOS related material - but it is NOT good. Markos deserves some accolades from the CIA for turning a community against their best interests - not good for society but certainly proves how propaganda can turn a country on a dime if it needs to. Tulsi was eviscerated on national news (those who would even dare mentioned her visit and only, only Tucker Carlson on FOX (of all places) gave her a fair shake. Sad just sad to see how easily we can become the next Syria with the help of Markos and the like...

Peace - and I MEAN it!!!
FN

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Submitted by ZimInSeattle on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 8:41am

Not surprised by DKos. Tulsi should #DemExit and go indie.

In fact, all true progressives in office should #DemExit.

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Submitted by Sunspots on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 8:45am

Yes, the Democrats do want a war with Syria

And with pretty much every other country that isn't already effectively our colony.

Dogma now is that nuclear war is survivable (for some) and would end with Full Spectrum Dominance for the U.S. Empire. They are insanely bloodthirsty. Look at Obama's late-term moves, packing more troops along Russia's borders, in Norway, for God's sake!

Submitted by fakenews on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 8:50am

True progressives need to run as fast as they can from Schummer

And WTF with Rachel Maddow? you can clearly see she is grovelling for her pay check. Ok, if you need to tell the truth and are afraid of losing your job - I will PUT you up HERE for FREE!!! But really, once you get used to high wages and the things it brings it's hard to go back and I think that is what we are seeing across the Democrat's industry...

peace
FN

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"Democracy is technique and the ability of power not to be understood as oppressor. Capitalism is the boss and democracy is its spokesperson." Peace - FN

Submitted by Crimson Buddha on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 9:12am

@fakenews I voted for his

@fakenews I voted for his Republican opponent. At least she had the good graces to be a Republican running as a Republican.

Submitted by ZimInSeattle on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 9:12am

Quit watching Maddow long ago. Use to really like her.

@fakenews But since MSNBC (Must Show No Bernie Coverage) became MSDNC, I quit watching altogether.

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Submitted by sojourns on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 9:01am

Wenis breath Kos was employed

by the CIA. I think it's reasonable to say that once one works for the CIA, they own you forever.

I just do not understand what all the fuss is about Tulsi visiting Syria. I can't see her but trying to do anything but diffuse the situation.

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"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage

Submitted by Crimson Buddha on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 9:02am

David Nir is sick

He is also a symptom of everything that is wrong with the Democrat party.

Submitted by gjohnsit on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 1:30pm

I'm somewhat amused

@Crimson Buddha @Crimson Buddha
by Nir's assumption that Gabbard must be a conservative because she opposes the Dem establishment policy.
Talk about "dumbing down" the conversation.

Submitted by Oldest Son Of A... on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 9:24am

This says everything I need to know...

"Shocking the hell out of Republicans and Democrats alike."

There isn't anything Progressive left in the ~~Democ~~RATic Party or at The Orange Stain...

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I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,

Submitted by gjohnsit on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 1:37pm

I guess they are no longer

@Oldest Son Of A Sailor
"Crashing the Gate" and "Taking on the System".

Submitted by Ellen North on Mon, 01/30/2017 - 9:11pm

@gjohnsit

@gjohnsit

I suspect that they must actually have been talking, in NewSpeak, about taking down democracy by crashing the gates and taking on the system... certainly fooled me, at any rate, just as Obama did...

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A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Submitted by thanatokephaloides on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 3:11pm

progressives

@Oldest Son Of A Sailor

There isn't anything Progressive left in the ~~Democ~~RATic Party or at The Orange Stain...

The progressives who were once over there are almost all now here, exclusively. (We still need to get ZhenRen to join us, however.)

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

Submitted by fakenews on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 9:25am

If you even read this, you are in the RIGHT spot!!! n/t

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"Democracy is technique and the ability of power not to be understood as oppressor. Capitalism is the boss and democracy is its spokesperson." Peace - FN

Submitted by LaFeminista on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 9:39am

Another one ejected and they wonder how Trump won

Submitted by Oldest Son Of A... on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 10:18am

It's Those Dang Ruskies...

@LaFeminista Hacking Our Democracy...

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"Do you realize the responsibility I carry?
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,

Submitted by AnotherPeasant on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 11:29am

Right you are! Commies and Bolshevists! Oh, wait a sec!

@Oldest Son Of A Sailor @Oldest Son Of A Sailor Russkis, anyway! The barbaric, Satanic hordes from the East that Hitler warned us about! Wait, WAIT! -that doesn't work either. But I'm sure that Vladimir Putin is some kind of evil mutant with super-powers, so we may have to use - NUCLEAR FORCE! Yeah, that's the ticket!

Jeebus, it's like a Godzilla movie where Godzilla hasn't DONE anything, but they still want to bring out the full-spectrum military response.

There is one very heartening thing I note concerning Tulsi Gabbard. I have a bad habit of always reading comments on the web, at least the first page of them. And when I watched the Faux Gnus interview with her, there were multiple comments saying: "I'm a Republican, and I would vote for her!"

Gosh, so would I, over here in LEFT field. But like Bernie, she is (so far) staying with her abuser; the Great Donkey. The Dems are the ONLY ones that don't want to hear more from Rep. Gabbard. Does anybody still doubt that the Dem leadership is firmly, irrevocably committed to shooting themselves in the ass, emptying the clip, and re-loading? Yeah, a new Party sounds better by the second.

BTW, for those of you who are still playing the GOS game, and actually think that anybody can be saved over there; or if you just feel like pissing them off;

Tulsi Gabbard is our very first Hindu, AND our first American Samoan, member of Congress.

Ergo, her detractors are OBVIOUSLY racists, and religious bigots; possibly radical Right-wing Moslems. It's that CIA-Islamofascist connection. Kos may well be a Wahabist. Just sayin'. If you're still into planting seeds over at the Great Orange Satan, that is.

It might explain the Russophobia over there, sort of. Or maybe Kos just has a Napoleon complex to the point where he wants to act out. Invading Russia! It's not like three major world powers have tried that and failed miserably or anything! It would be so simple; just like invading Afghanistan! Let's see them ROOSHINS do somethin' like that! Oh, wait, where was that better example? I had one here somewhere.

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"Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men for the nastiest of motives will somehow work for the benefit of all."
- John Maynard Keynes

Submitted by Oldest Son Of A... on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 11:54am

You said it far better than I...

@AnotherPeasant With one exception...

"Great Orange Satan"

It gives them far more power than they are due...
Tis no more then a Great Orange Stain...

Like something unpleasant both men and women might have found in their pajama bottoms one morning as they came of age...
Or maybe a Baby's Diaper after eating a lot of carrots would get the color right... Nothing more...

Some of them may yet grow up into adulthood...
And come out of being spoiled selfish brats...

#9.1 #9.1 Russkis, anyway! The barbaric, Satanic hordes from the East that Hitler warned us about! Wait, WAIT! -that doesn't work either. But I'm sure that Vladimir Putin is some kind of evil mutant with super-powers, so we may have to use - NUCLEAR FORCE! Yeah, that's the ticket!

Jeebus, it's like a Godzilla movie where Godzilla hasn't DONE anything, but they still want to bring out the full-spectrum military response.

There is one very heartening thing I note concerning Tulsi Gabbard. I have a bad habit of always reading comments on the web, at least the first page of them. And when I watched the Faux Gnus interview with her, there were multiple comments saying: "I'm a Republican, and I would vote for her!"

Gosh, so would I, over here in LEFT field. But like Bernie, she is (so far) staying with her abuser; the Great Donkey. The Dems are the ONLY ones that don't want to hear more from Rep. Gabbard. Does anybody still doubt that the Dem leadership is firmly, irrevocably committed to shooting themselves in the ass, emptying the clip, and re-loading? Yeah, a new Party sounds better by the second.

BTW, for those of you who are still playing the GOS game, and actually think that anybody can be saved over there; or if you just feel like pissing them off;

Tulsi Gabbard is our very first Hindu, AND our first American Samoan, member of Congress.

Ergo, her detractors are OBVIOUSLY racists, and religious bigots; possibly radical Right-wing Moslems. It's that CIA-Islamofascist connection. Kos may well be a Wahabist. Just sayin'. If you're still into planting seeds over at the Great Orange Satan, that is.

It might explain the Russophobia over there, sort of. Or maybe Kos just has a Napoleon complex to the point where he wants to act out. Invading Russia! It's not like three major world powers have tried that and failed miserably or anything! It would be so simple; just like invading Afghanistan! Let's see them ROOSHINS do somethin' like that! Oh, wait, where was that better example? I had one here somewhere.

—

"Do you realize the responsibility I carry?
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,

Submitted by CB on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 12:58pm

Yep. That's what you get from a Great Orange Circle Jerk

@Oldest Son Of A Sailor

Submitted by thanatokephaloides on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 3:17pm

Napoleon XXII

@AnotherPeasant

Or maybe Kos just has a Napoleon complex to the point where he wants to act out. Invading Russia!

Kos is often referred to hereabouts as "Nap".

Napoleon XXII.

Give me Napoleon XIV any day......

[video:https://youtu.be/hnzHtm1jhL4 width:420 height:236]

#9.1 #9.1 Russkis, anyway! The barbaric, Satanic hordes from the East that Hitler warned us about! Wait, WAIT! -that doesn't work either. But I'm sure that Vladimir Putin is some kind of evil mutant with super-powers, so we may have to use - NUCLEAR FORCE! Yeah, that's the ticket!

Jeebus, it's like a Godzilla movie where Godzilla hasn't DONE anything, but they still want to bring out the full-spectrum military response.

There is one very heartening thing I note concerning Tulsi Gabbard. I have a bad habit of always reading comments on the web, at least the first page of them. And when I watched the Faux Gnus interview with her, there were multiple comments saying: "I'm a Republican, and I would vote for her!"

Gosh, so would I, over here in LEFT field. But like Bernie, she is (so far) staying with her abuser; the Great Donkey. The Dems are the ONLY ones that don't want to hear more from Rep. Gabbard. Does anybody still doubt that the Dem leadership is firmly, irrevocably committed to shooting themselves in the ass, emptying the clip, and re-loading? Yeah, a new Party sounds better by the second.

BTW, for those of you who are still playing the GOS game, and actually think that anybody can be saved over there; or if you just feel like pissing them off;

Tulsi Gabbard is our very first Hindu, AND our first American Samoan, member of Congress.

Ergo, her detractors are OBVIOUSLY racists, and religious bigots; possibly radical Right-wing Moslems. It's that CIA-Islamofascist connection. Kos may well be a Wahabist. Just sayin'. If you're still into planting seeds over at the Great Orange Satan, that is.

It might explain the Russophobia over there, sort of. Or maybe Kos just has a Napoleon complex to the point where he wants to act out. Invading Russia! It's not like three major world powers have tried that and failed miserably or anything! It would be so simple; just like invading Afghanistan! Let's see them ROOSHINS do somethin' like that! Oh, wait, where was that better example? I had one here somewhere.

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

Submitted by Ellen North on Mon, 01/30/2017 - 9:17pm

@AnotherPeasant

@AnotherPeasant

... BTW, for those of you who are still playing the GOS game, and actually think that anybody can be saved over there; or if you just feel like pissing them off;

Tulsi Gabbard is our very first Hindu, AND our first American Samoan, member of Congress.

Ergo, her detractors are OBVIOUSLY racists, and religious bigots; possibly radical Right-wing Moslems. It's that CIA-Islamofascist connection. Kos may well be a Wahabist. Just sayin'. If you're still into planting seeds over at the Great Orange Satan, that is. ...

Beautifully said, as also was the rest of your comment - but aren't they also basement-dwelling misogynists? Just like all us (female) Bernie-bros? Or was that 'fixed' by sending us all to that special (exceptional?) place in hell?

#9.1 #9.1 Russkis, anyway! The barbaric, Satanic hordes from the East that Hitler warned us about! Wait, WAIT! -that doesn't work either. But I'm sure that Vladimir Putin is some kind of evil mutant with super-powers, so we may have to use - NUCLEAR FORCE! Yeah, that's the ticket!

Jeebus, it's like a Godzilla movie where Godzilla hasn't DONE anything, but they still want to bring out the full-spectrum military response.

There is one very heartening thing I note concerning Tulsi Gabbard. I have a bad habit of always reading comments on the web, at least the first page of them. And when I watched the Faux Gnus interview with her, there were multiple comments saying: "I'm a Republican, and I would vote for her!"

Gosh, so would I, over here in LEFT field. But like Bernie, she is (so far) staying with her abuser; the Great Donkey. The Dems are the ONLY ones that don't want to hear more from Rep. Gabbard. Does anybody still doubt that the Dem leadership is firmly, irrevocably committed to shooting themselves in the ass, emptying the clip, and re-loading? Yeah, a new Party sounds better by the second.

BTW, for those of you who are still playing the GOS game, and actually think that anybody can be saved over there; or if you just feel like pissing them off;

Tulsi Gabbard is our very first Hindu, AND our first American Samoan, member of Congress.

Ergo, her detractors are OBVIOUSLY racists, and religious bigots; possibly radical Right-wing Moslems. It's that CIA-Islamofascist connection. Kos may well be a Wahabist. Just sayin'. If you're still into planting seeds over at the Great Orange Satan, that is.

It might explain the Russophobia over there, sort of. Or maybe Kos just has a Napoleon complex to the point where he wants to act out. Invading Russia! It's not like three major world powers have tried that and failed miserably or anything! It would be so simple; just like invading Afghanistan! Let's see them ROOSHINS do somethin' like that! Oh, wait, where was that better example? I had one here somewhere.

—

Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Submitted by Amanda Matthews on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 5:02pm

The best part of them screaming that it's those evil ROOSIANS

@Oldest Son Of A Sailor doing all the dirty deeds is that today the loons are whining about all our spies that we had planted over there are being rounded up by the Russian government. Why how dare they????? The tools and fool get all pissy about Russia spying on America, and then have the amazing ability to be so unaware of what they saying because then they bitch about Russia arresting people who are spying FOR America. Russia is not supposed to spy on us and is also supposed to lay of people who are spying for us? Because the neo-libs say so?

Apparently some of those idjits think they're still in charge. Oddthing is I don't see much of anyone who gives a damn what they think right now.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

Submitted by fakenews on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 9:42am

I guess this means third party?? n/t

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"Democracy is technique and the ability of power not to be understood as oppressor. Capitalism is the boss and democracy is its spokesperson." Peace - FN

Submitted by AnotherPeasant on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 12:14pm

It has meant third party for a while now.

@fakenews The only question is whether we are at critical mass or not. I suspect we are. Particularly if we are not firmly committed to excluding the working class from power, or playing identity politics. This country would unite around issues that matter, but we are fed a diet of wedge-issue BS. Things that both the Left and Right 99% agree about never become policy.

In the long view, political parties come and go. The Democrats need to go the way of the Whigs before them. I'm never going back to the Great Donkey. Never. I am certainly not alone. They crossed the line with me by cheating Bernie out of the nomination, and subsequently trying to pretend they didn't. -AND NOW they are risking a nuclear war to try to distract people from discussing that. They are actually talking about WINNING a nuclear war. With a straight face. That's a level of idiotic, nihilistic psychosis that threatens us all. The Great Donkey is rabid. It should be put down; the sooner the better.

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"Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men for the nastiest of motives will somehow work for the benefit of all."
- John Maynard Keynes

Submitted by Ellen North on Mon, 01/30/2017 - 9:32pm

@fakenews

@fakenews

How can anyone expect to make electoral change with

rigged elections run by corporate political parties stated to be unanswerable to The People because of being 'privately owned' political parties determining The People's electoral choices,

selections being made by TPTB as to who can run/win of two corporate Parties, one of which The People are expected to identify with and rally behind to some divided and feasible-for-semi-plausible-electoral-cheating extent

- and now with Homeland (In)Security taking over control of elections, away from any hope of independent/citizen oversight?

Will the donors/owners of these corrupt corporate Parties mend their ways to allow for a 3rd Party run without even stealing votes from such contenders?

How about the corporate media?

How much longer will we have internet?

How long do we now have before dissidents begin to disappear?

Hasn't anyone seen this history before?

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Submitted by asterisk on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 9:51am

I saw an earlier hit piece on

I saw an earlier hit piece on Tulsi Gabbard by one of the less popular kos kids/sockpuppets? that had a very vicious comment thread. Sometimes it seems like kosly kids are softened up for the big attacks posted by the Important People from the Front Page.
I just skimmed the diary you linked, but it looks like something that would make Faux News proud. Oh, Yeah, Oops. Fox News is the one being reasonable about this? I never thought I would see Faux do anything 'fair and balanced'. Now I am waiting for the sun to rise in the west.

Several of my comments on the Russia situation have disappeared from my comments list over at TOP. I have never been HR'd there. I thought that even if a thread or diary was hidden that my comments would stay in my own comments list?

I am beginning to see TOP as a place to find out what the Dem leadership wants and occasionally to try to get signatures for petitions about worthy causes. I have some knowledge of database manipulation and data mining; I often feel manipulated over at TOP.

Right now I would love to work for Tulsi Gabbard in 2020.

Submitted by LaFeminista on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 10:07am

They have their tongues so far up the metaphorical

@asterisk rectum of the DP leadership I'm surprised they can still breath

Submitted by Amanda Matthews on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 5:05pm

Circular breathing. My trumpet playing ex explained it to me.

@LaFeminista They don't even have to surface for air.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

Submitted by MrWebster on Sun, 01/29/2017 - 12:27pm

DK is now message central from party leadership to the faithful

@asterisk I think you are right. There is definitely a behind the scenes editorial direction/agenda. I noticed that nearly all the front pagers have written an anti-Russian article--the site definitely wants to keep the Russian accusations very visible and lasting. The hit piece on Gabbard seemed to be more shrill than normal and definitely meant to turn democrats against her for talking peace.

I am beginning to see TOP as a place to find out what the Dem leadership wants and occasionally to try to get signatures for petitions about worthy causes. I have some knowledge of database manipulation and data mining; I often feel manipulated over at TOP.

Submitted by fakenews on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 10:17am

TOP is the exact spot where turning the opposition would work

I've seen the posts by millenniums and I am very disappointed by the no "thinking" and "herd mentality" that takes place. It's easy to look back at the sixties and think that you are on the right side of history by being anarchist and revolting AGAINST the peace movement. You as young people need to stop, stop and think for yourself - this is not a "Tommy Hilfiger" commercial , it involves real lives. You are being led astray by commercial propaganda - the democrats in your corner are just as likely "killers" as you profess the other (who ever that is) side to be. stop and think, just think my young friends - where are they leading you? If it's NOT peace then it is NOT peace...

Peace
FN

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"Democracy is technique and the ability of power not to be understood as oppressor. Capitalism is the boss and democracy is its spokesperson." Peace - FN

Submitted by thanatokephaloides on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 3:23pm

anarchists

@fakenews

It's easy to look back at the sixties and think that you are on the right side of history by being anarchist and revolting AGAINST the peace movement.

Umm, the anarchists in the sixties (and today) support the peace movements.

Please don't confuse the neo-fascist American "libertarians" with anarchists. In the USA, the term "libertarian" has been hijacked by right-wing assholes who only want liberty for themselves and those exactly like them, with endless war and strife for everyone else.

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

Submitted by eyo on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 12:06pm

Syria, "a culture of blessing and profound respect for women"

"The safest country in the world." That is how I remember Syria, through eyes of Caroline Casey who went there to talk to the people and see for herself, before war. Please download and/or listen to both podcasts on this page if it's not to woo for you. March 4th and March 11, 2004. Syrians are a peaceful people, despite Assad or whoever, people wanted peace not war. Who speaks for them now? I don't know.
https://kpfa.org/program/the-visionary-activist-show/page/66/

If archives make you curious, looky who talks on page 65, May 13, 2004. Never Mind.

Markos Moulitsas Zúniga, author of the Daily Kos blog, and Alex Steggen (sic) , editor of worldchanging

Edit: fix page number, add sic. Now wondering how long until dailykos ends up like worldchanging. Tick tock! Keep going.

Submitted by Fishtroller 02 on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 11:28am

There are new roving bands of flag throwers

at Dkos and I am currently on a time out because of them. It's gotten real nasty there. I have been trying to get people to see that as long as Dems continue to behave in incredibly hypocritical ways, and continue to deny the facts about Hillary's loss, they will lose again. Now all they do is write tabloid style hit pieces on Trump which is a waste of time when there are so many areas that need their energy and focus. Pointing all this out does not sit well.
I do have to thank them though.... being on a time out gave me the final reason I needed to leave the Party. I went down to the local clerk's office and after 40 years of being a Democrat, changed my registration to Independent.
And when the time out is over, I will not hesitate to return to posting comments to point out the hypocrisy when I see it again.
I too read the diary on Tulsi Gabbard's trip to Syria. It doesn't surprise me that she is so reviled at DKos. She insulted everyone by quitting the DNC and promoting Bernie. That's all she needed to do to be on the shit list in Daily Kos heaven.

Oh, and here's a good one..... turns out that Deval Patrick, who just joined Obama's new "Foundation" refused to release his income taxes to the public when he ran for governor. Apparently it was OK for him to do that, but not Trump.

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"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin

Submitted by CS in AZ on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 12:14pm

Same as it ever was

@Fishtroller 02

Dkos doesn't change. Roving bands of flag-throwers (I call them hall monitors, as they remind me of junior high school gangs of bullies), silencing anything they don't want to hear and enforcing group-think. I left after the great edict around this time last year, and I'm not going back.

It's good to see you here FT! If and when DKos bans you, I hope to see you around here more often. You've survived there a long time despite being a persistent bee in their collective bonnet. But they won't ever hear what you're saying, unfortunately. Democrats are a lost cause too. The more people that officially unregister the better.

Submitted by Jamawani on Sun, 01/29/2017 - 10:57pm

DK Was Circling the Drain Long Ago -

@Fishtroller 02 I recall all the articles about HRC's coming landslide. The only debate was how many EVs she would rack up. Would it hit 400? And when I suggested that they might - I say, son, might - be counting their chickens before the big rooster sang "Doo-Dah" I was blasted as a doom-sayer, a Koch plant, etc., etc., etc.

That bus ain't had no wheels for a long time.

Submitted by Big Al on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 11:39am

While I'm no fan of Gabbard,

those at Daily Kos are truly propagandized people.

Submitted by mimi on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 2:38pm

What don't you like about Gabbard?

@Big Al
Just asking.

Submitted by SnappleBC on Sun, 01/29/2017 - 1:35am

I have to admit...

@Big Al ...every time they whine about "fake news" it's hard not to laugh. DKOS is one of the epicenters of fake news.

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A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard

Submitted by Ellen North on Mon, 01/30/2017 - 9:39pm

@SnappleBC

@SnappleBC

That's the old projection tactic of accusing others of what they do themselves - they're clearly blinded by their own light-show and have no idea of how stupid they look...

—

Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Submitted by gjohnsit on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 12:10pm

Here's the rub

Gabbard fully embraces the Assad/Putin line that sets up both the rebels resisting Assad and the United States (which supports the rebels, not Al Qaeda) as the bad guys in Syria

Can David even name a group of these so-called "moderate rebels"?
Nope, and he doesn't try because they don't exist.

Submitted by dervish on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 7:24pm

He's a worthless shill

@gjohnsit but aren't they all?

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

Submitted by Crimson Buddha on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 10:19pm

@gjohnsit He's objectively pro-al

@gjohnsit He's objectively pro-al quaeda or pro-ISIS. Because that's who the opposition is. I know a firehouse in NYC I'd like to drag his ass to.

Submitted by CB on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 12:34pm

@gjohnsit Sure they exist. I've seen videos of them.

They're the ones that leave the head attached (most of the time) when they slit throats.

Submitted by native on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 12:55pm

Team Blue can do no wrong!

Join with neocons to start a war with Russia? No problem. Snuggle up with Goldman Sachs for campaign cash? Why not... if it's for the greater glory of the marvelous D Party! Democracy is after all, a great Sporting Event... much like the Super Bowl... but here we've got the White Knights vs the Deplorables. Ugh, those horrible Deplorables.

The choices are clear as day, so may the least bad side win, and go on to ever greater feats of exceptional bravery, noble rhetoric, and congenital greed. Hooray for our side! Democrats uber alles! Ignore Tulsi Gabbard and her traitorous grumblings! Cast her aside all ye loyal Kossacks, lest she lead you astray, and straight into the hideous maw of independent thinking, where there be dragons and monsters.

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native

Submitted by CB on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 1:05pm

@LaFeminista That website is certainly fucked

Submitted by gjohnsit on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 1:07pm

Gabbard interview

Submitted by Alligator Ed on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 2:38pm

Go, Tulsi, go!

@Sunspots @native @gjohnsit She don't take crap from no one--not Medusa, Not DWS, not Donna Brazile-nut, not CNN.

Although I am quite dubious of reforming the rotting cetacean, flopped on the banks of the Potomac, and resuscitating it, TNT have the best shot at it.

Dems don't need no doctor. They need a strong dose of Tulsi.

Submitted by FuturePassed on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 3:45pm

Thank you for this.

@gjohnsit If I were attached to other media (Facebook, Twitter, etc.) I would spread it.

Submitted by Wink on Sun, 01/29/2017 - 9:28am

A clinic on how

@gjohnsit to respond to establishment media.

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Submitted by SnappleBC on Sun, 01/29/2017 - 10:41pm

I feel like I must've lost the plot somewhere

@gjohnsit So I'm told I must pillory the woman who is worrying about the Syrian people and trying to bring about peace. At the same time, I'm to embrace continuous war and Henry Fucking Kissinger.

I'm not sure I understand.

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Submitted by Ellen North on Mon, 01/30/2017 - 10:58pm

@gjohnsit

@gjohnsit

OMG, I love Tulsi Gabbard for diplomatically uttering the truth about the role of the US and their allies in arming and otherwise supporting terrorists - this including the group (eventually) claimed responsible for 9/11 by the corporate coup/TPP-creating top Bush Admin corporation-representative guys who ignored and shut off warnings about the incipient attack for months, were too 'disorganized' due to scheduling war-games with the necessary defences at just that time to prevent it, and used the disaster as an excuse of the sort stated to be required in order to attack other people's oil-rich countries for long-planned connected-corporation gain - in this attack and invasion of the oil-rich Syrian people! And CNN actually aired this, without switching the facts off to cover any entertainment emergencies? Good for them!

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/aug/30/syria-...

Syria intervention plan fueled by oil interests, not chemical weapon concern
Massacres of civilians are being exploited for narrow geopolitical competition to control Mideast oil, gas pipelines

Nafeez Ahmed

Friday 30 August 2013

... Experts are unanimous that the shocking footage of civilians, including children, suffering the effects of some sort of chemical attack, is real - but remain divided on whether it involved military-grade chemical weapons associated with Assad's arsenal, or were a more amateur concoction potentially linked to the rebels.

Whatever the case, few recall that US agitation against Syria began long before recent atrocities, in the context of wider operations targeting Iranian influence across the Middle East. ...

... According to former French foreign minister Roland Dumas, Britain had planned covert action in Syria as early as 2009: "I was in England two years before the violence in Syria on other business", he told French television:

"I met with top British officials, who confessed to me that they were preparing something in Syria. This was in Britain not in America. Britain was preparing gunmen to invade Syria." ...

...So what was this unfolding strategy to undermine Syria and Iran all about? According to retired NATO Secretary General Wesley Clark, a memo from the Office of the US Secretary of Defense just a few weeks after 9/11 revealed plans to "attack and destroy the governments in 7 countries in five years", starting with Iraq and moving on to "Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran." In a subsequent interview, Clark argues that this strategy is fundamentally about control of the region's vast oil and gas resources.

Much of the strategy currently at play was candidly described in a 2008 US Army-funded RAND report, Unfolding the Future of the Long War (pdf). ...

... It would seem that contradictory self-serving Saudi and Qatari oil interests are pulling the strings of an equally self-serving oil-focused US policy in Syria, if not the wider region. It is this - the problem of establishing a pliable opposition which the US and its oil allies feel confident will play ball, pipeline-style, in a post-Assad Syria - that will determine the nature of any prospective intervention: not concern for Syrian life.

What is beyond doubt is that Assad is a war criminal whose government deserves to be overthrown. The question is by whom, and for what interests?

And what of the far worse war criminals behind such global plots as this? We know the chemical attacks on civilians were not initiated by Assad.

Regime change in America, in the interests of democracy, Americans, America, the world and of the world's people and planetary life would seem to be the real imperative. Or there'll be nothing left to salvage in a very short time, indeed.

We have to get polluting industry the hell out of governance - now.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/may/18/fossil-fuel-companie...

Fossil fuels subsidised by $10m a minute, says IMF

‘Shocking’ revelation finds $5.3tn subsidy estimate for 2015 is greater than the total health spending of all the world’s governments

Why we need to keep fossil fuels in the ground

This article is 1 year old

Damian Carrington
@dpcarrington

Monday 18 May 2015

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Submitted by fakenews on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 2:06pm

Tulsi doesn't tell Jake that he's full of shit, she just talks

around him... CNN is a piece of shit.

Piece & Peace

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"Democracy is technique and the ability of power not to be understood as oppressor. Capitalism is the boss and democracy is its spokesperson." Peace - FN

Submitted by eyo on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 2:33pm

Newslogue Debate on Jake Tapper

@gjohnsit I'm with @fakenews , "CNN is a p.o.s." Here is a good anti-rant for that interview:
http://www.newslogue.com/debate/304/CaitlinJohnstone

In her first major television interview since returning from her fact-finding mission to Syria, Gabbard was subject to a breathtakingly obnoxious spin job on CNN at the hands of the phenomenally despicable Jake Tapper, who peppered her with so many establishment party lines it’d make even the greasiest Fox News pundit blush. In the seconds leading into his interview with Gabbard, Tapper ran an appallingly blatant psy-op featuring “Bana Alabed,” a social media presence whose authenticity is subject to so much doubt from experts that it’s absolutely inexcusable for any purported news source to run any story about it as fact.
...

Remember Chicken Noodle News: "We're gonna go on the air June 1, and we're gonna stay on until the end of the world. When that time comes, we'll cover it, play 'Nearer My God to Thee' and sign off."

Whatever sells advertising. ~shrug~

Submitted by Alligator Ed on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 2:55pm

For any of you who are still Dems, I dedicate this song

With sincere conviction that we need a Hawaiian Surfer for president.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGjky5U64LM]

And now the real surfer girl speaks:

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0f6WNGH_DY]

Submitted by Azazello on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 3:11pm

What I learned at Daily Kos ...

You can be a good Democrat and not be a good person.

—

We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.

Submitted by fakenews on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 3:32pm

Off topic but, I was elated to hear that Victoria Nuland was one

of the state department officials who in mass surrendered their positions during the administrative transition.

US Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland has resigned from her post. Speaking to Radio Sputnik, Russian political scientist Alexander Konkov said that her departure is highly symbolic, and could presage important changes in the Trump State Department's attitude toward US-sponsored regime change operations.

Victoria Nuland gone

Peace
FN

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"Democracy is technique and the ability of power not to be understood as oppressor. Capitalism is the boss and democracy is its spokesperson." Peace - FN

Submitted by fakenews on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 3:38pm

(No subject) eh? then you're not listening...

I don't know how these doubles get up here but, oh well...

to see my sig line again gives me a thrill anyway

Peace
FN

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"Democracy is technique and the ability of power not to be understood as oppressor. Capitalism is the boss and democracy is its spokesperson." Peace - FN

Submitted by fakenews on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 3:51pm

Nice push back on dKos there Claudius / LaFem...

I'd link it but what the hell - we all know that Nir is screwed in the head anyway...

Peace
FN

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"Democracy is technique and the ability of power not to be understood as oppressor. Capitalism is the boss and democracy is its spokesperson." Peace - FN

Submitted by CB on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 5:11pm

The more I see of the garbage spewed on DKos, the more

@fakenews @fakenews glad I am that Hillary is not now president. In a world of two evils, she definitely is the greater in my mind.

PS. I presume you viewed my response to you there, LaFem

Submitted by Ellen North on Mon, 01/30/2017 - 11:12pm

@CB

@CB

With Hillary, we'd have been radioactive dust piles by now, and the last comments on DKos would have been 'Yay, we're finally nuking Russia, China, Iran, India, Pakistan and a whole list of other countries! We're Number 1 again!'

Not that anyone would have been around to see them, or that internet would have survived, either.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Submitted by Amanda Matthews on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 4:49pm

Hasn't David Nir been a contributing editor to the Daily Beast

in the past? How many Daily Beast contributors are posted on TOS? Kerry Elevad was/is one and might still be. Are there any more?

Why do I ask? Because this shit started WITH THE DAILY BEAST:

Tulsi Gabbard’s Fascist Escorts to Syria

The Democratic congresswoman used affiliates of a violent, anti-Semitic political party to take tea with Assad.
ALEX ROWELL TIM MAK MICHAEL WEISS 01.26.17 6:25 PM ET

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/01/26/democratic-congresswoma...

Who owns THE DAILY BEAST"

The Daily Beast delivers award-winning original reporting and sharp opinion from big personalities in the arenas of politics, pop-culture, world news and more. Fiercely independent and armed with irreverent intelligence, The Daily Beast now reaches more than 20 million readers per month. John Avlon is Editor-in-Chief and Mike Dyer is Chief Digital Officer. The Daily Beast is based in New York and is an operating business of IAC (NASDAQ: IACI).

http://www.thedailybeast.com/company/about-us.html

AND who is on the Board of Directors of The Daily Beast?

Board of Directors

Barry Diller Chairman
Victor Kaufman Vice Chairman
Edgar Bronfman, Jr. Director
Chelsea Clinton Director
Michael Eisner Director
Alexander von Furstenberg Director
Bonnie Hammer Director
Joey Levin Director
Bryan Lourd Director
David Rosenblatt Director
Alan Spoon Director
Richard F. Zannino Director

http://iac.com/about/leadership

***

All this is being generated by a Clinton propaganda site. It's a Turd Way operation to try to ruin her and her career before too many people hear that the 'New' Democrats have been lying to us as usual. They want regime change and Syria's assets, the Syrian people want to live so they want peace. The two ideas here ARE mutually exclusive.

It's another gaslighting job by the neo-liberals.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 6:44pm

McCain with Al Qaida leaders

@Amanda Matthews @Amanda Matthews Too bad I didn't see the diary before today because a person posted this comment.

Heroes don’t meet with mass murderers in secret

This is a picture of McCain meeting with the leaders of Al Qaida and other terrorists leaders.
The article that I got the picture from said that he could be charged with treason because HE DIDN'T GET PERMISSION to go to Syria like Tulsi did.

Wonder how they would have reacted if I had posted this picture and the link to the article?
Never mind, I know. Something about right wing talking points or something else that tells me that I am wrong.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.

Submitted by Ellen North on Mon, 01/30/2017 - 11:20pm

@snoopydawg

@snoopydawg

Wow, nice find! I'd love the link to the article, myself!

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Submitted by Oldest Son Of A... on Sun, 01/29/2017 - 11:13am

Love the Daily Beast Google Description in the Search Results

@Amanda Matthews Interesting how the NeoLiberals think they are much further left than the reality of their conservatism...

"The Daily Beast is an American news reporting and opinion website, with conservative views, although many argue that the news site is middle of the road."

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"Do you realize the responsibility I carry?
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,

Submitted by Ellen North on Mon, 01/30/2017 - 11:18pm

@Amanda Matthews

@Amanda Matthews

Oooooo, thanks for the lovely research! The 'corporate-/elephant-/donkey-Party' stink always leads back to the same dung-pile from the same sort of over-rich greedy asses and their lackeys...

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Submitted by fakenews on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 5:04pm

Good sniffing around - gaslighting dKos yeah n/t

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"Democracy is technique and the ability of power not to be understood as oppressor. Capitalism is the boss and democracy is its spokesperson." Peace - FN

Submitted by fakenews on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 5:58pm

sorry i don't remember what i was shootin' there for but i

guess it might go along the lines of - protesting what dKos and the neolibs say you should protest against, even if that means more war and killing - is not going in the right direction. I know there are so many social issues swirling around that the newbies into the fray (if in fact they are newbies and not bot accounts) should pick their fights apart from swallowing the whole cookie just because of some faux bloggers opinions. but yes the anarchist meme was unintentional and the true anarchists do have a valid point about our culture as Chomsky has written many times.

Peace
FN

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"Democracy is technique and the ability of power not to be understood as oppressor. Capitalism is the boss and democracy is its spokesperson." Peace - FN

Submitted by native on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 6:11pm

Fucking Democrats. They've finally got one

Congress critter with half a brain, and all they can do is shit on her. What, we're supposed to embrace Obama's "peace-loving" crew of Samantha Powers, Vicky Nuland, and Hillary "no-fly zone" Clinton as emissaries of a national consensus? To hell with that, and to hell with Brennan and Ash Carter and Chuckie Schumer and the entire MIC establishment. And fuck Donald Trump too, while we're at it.

Daily Kos has got its head buried so far up its ass, it is now peering out from its own nostrils. The site has become a parody of what it once claimed to be. By abandoning critical analysis in favor of partisan cheer leading and other-blaming, and by failing to identify and address the causes of the Democratic Party's dysfunction at a root level, Daily Kos is in the process of rendering itself conceptually irrelevant.

This is a sad state of affairs. I do not celebrate the precipitous decline of the once-influential and inspirational congruence of interests that was Daily Kos, circa 2004. Little did we know, back in the early 2000's, how perfidious and self-serving was the nature of the "loyal opposition" to the crimes of Dubya and Cheney. Little did we know, how compliant and often complicit our "Democratic" representatives had been in these crimes. Well, now we know. Or at least we should know, if we have eyes to see and ears to hear.

Obama, the silver tongued advocate for all we believed in, the miraculously black emissary for world peace, proceeded to betray the American working class as soon as he took office. First thing he did was to bail out the big banks. In foreign affairs, he needlessly abetted the Ukrainian revolution and resulting chaos, the utter dismemberment of Libya, and the attempted overthrow of the Syrian government -- via jihadist proxies, all the while railing against ISIS. Which was only prevented by Russia's intervention. So Mister Nobel Peace Prize in retaliation declares Russia to be Public Enemy #1, thereby initiating Cold War version 2, and threatening the entire world with a nuclear nightmare. Way to go Barack, Bravo. Hero of the Democratic Party who, in eight years in office managed to do exactly what? Prove that even black people can be upper-class corporate imperialists, just the same as white folks? Well, I guess.

And Hillary, Obama's rival-compatriot was supposed to take over the reins of an utterly corrupt and fully compromised Party that had never demonstrated an ounce of ideological integrity since the days of Jimmy Carter?

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native

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 7:23pm

Native excellent comment

@native I feel exactly the same way as you do about the DP , Obamas's roll in the destruction of it and how far DK has fallen since the days when the site members were against the Middle Eastern wars or supporting coups.
When we worked hard to give the democrats the power to roll back the Bush abuses, they betrayed us. That was in 2006 and here we are 11 years later and they are doing the same things.
Voting to confirm people who aren't qualified to be in charge of dog catching.
Not one democrat has to vote for any of those people because they would be appointed by just republican votes, yet Warren says that she voted for Carson because Trump might try to appoint an even worse candidate.
Schumer and Pelosi have stated that they are going to try to work with Trump and his agendas but will be keeping their eyes on him and his appointees. After they are appointed there is nothing that they can do if they don't do their jobs.
Here's an article from Greenwald 7 years ago that explains the games and deception of the democrats by changing who gets to be the person that sacrifices their integrity and work with the republicans to pass legislation.
It's from during the health care debate and when Rockefeller had been on record for a public option before the vote for it and why he decided to vote against it when the time came for him to put his approval for it.
I hope that people read this.
It shows that the democrats are in league with the republicans and have been for decades.
http://www.salon.com/2010/02/23/democrats_34/
It's just a game for them.
Remember DiFi spending $6 million to get the torture report? If she is so concerned about torture then why did she vote to confirm the person who believes in torture?

Congress critter with half a brain, and all they can do is shit on her. What, we're supposed to embrace Obama's "peace-loving" crew of Samantha Powers, Vicky Nuland, and Hillary "no-fly zone" Clinton as emissaries of a national consensus? To hell with that, and to hell with Brennan and Ash Carter and Chuckie Schumer and the entire MIC establishment. And fuck Donald Trump too, while we're at it. Daily Kos has got its head buried so far up its ass, it is now peering out from its own nostrils. The site has become a parody of what it once claimed to be. By abandoning critical analysis in favor of partisan cheer leading and other-blaming, and by failing to identify and address the causes of the Democratic Party's dysfunction at a root level, Daily Kos is in the process of rendering itself conceptually irrelevant. This is a sad state of affairs. I do not celebrate the precipitous decline of the once-influential and inspirational congruence of interests that was Daily Kos, circa 2004. Little did we know, back in the early 2000's, how perfidious and self-serving was the nature of the "loyal opposition" to the crimes of Dubya and Cheney. Little did we know, how compliant and often complicit our "Democratic" representatives had been in these crimes. Well, now we know. Or at least we should know, if we have eyes to see and ears to hear. Obama, the silver tongued advocate for all we believed in, the miraculously black emissary for world peace, proceeded to betray the American working class as soon as he took office. First thing he did was to bail out the big banks. In foreign affairs, he needlessly abetted the Ukrainian revolution and resulting chaos, the utter dismemberment of Libya, and the attempted overthrow of the Syrian government -- via jihadist proxies, all the while railing against ISIS. Which was only prevented by Russia's intervention. So Mister Nobel Peace Prize in retaliation declares Russia to be Public Enemy #1, thereby initiating Cold War version 2, and threatening the entire world with a nuclear nightmare. Way to go Barack, Bravo. Hero of the Democratic Party who, in eight years in office managed to do exactly what? Prove that even black people can be upper-class corporate imperialists, just the same as white folks? Well, I guess. And Hillary, Obama's rival-compatriot was supposed to take over the reins of an utterly corrupt and fully compromised Party that had never demonstrated an ounce of ideological integrity since the days of Jimmy Carter?

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.

Submitted by fakenews on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 7:52pm

Thanks snoopydawg I've been looking for that article on

@snoopydawg villan rotation for years. We used to call it the "designated betrayer" but I like the rotation idea - watched that go on for years...

peace
FN

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"Democracy is technique and the ability of power not to be understood as oppressor. Capitalism is the boss and democracy is its spokesperson." Peace - FN

Submitted by native on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 7:54pm

Amen, snoopydawg.

@snoopydawg , As per a few Dylan lyrics,

Well, I thought that the rain would cool things down
But it looks like it don't
I'd like to get you to change your mind
But it looks like you won't.

From now on I'll be busy
Ain't going nowhere fast
I'm just glad it's over
And I'm seeing the real you at last.

—

native

Submitted by Ellen North on Mon, 01/30/2017 - 11:31pm

@snoopydawg

@snoopydawg

Ir wasn't her money and she believes that she'll never be tortured herself. She's just being pragmatic.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Submitted by fakenews on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 6:25pm

Wow native you're on fire! Sums it up for me.

for me I guess the cruelty of destroying whole countries is top on the list of how we got thrown overboard. That did not abate over the last eight years, broke my heart but that's the reality. Looking back over how functional countries can end up being shells (literally) of their former selves because of the imperialist formula of gutting a country with fake terrorism. Some day, we can only hope that Nuremberg returns to take justice on these bastards (if they're not all dead of old age) and history will look back on the good ol' US of A imperialist days as a horrible nightmare...

Peace
FN

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"Democracy is technique and the ability of power not to be understood as oppressor. Capitalism is the boss and democracy is its spokesperson." Peace - FN

Submitted by native on Sat, 01/28/2017 - 8:07pm

We can hope.

@fakenews , The empire is crumbling at its roots.

—

native

Submitted by MrWebster on Sun, 01/29/2017 - 11:14am

dk official home of democratic party chicken hawks

Submitted by Fishtroller 02 on Sun, 01/29/2017 - 11:55am

Hey CS!

I was thinking of you when I was doing battle over there and wondering how you are doing. I am using my time out well. I went down to the clerks office and changed my registration to Independent!

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"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin