@ggersh
and now it comes home. It was not enough to cause mayhem elsewhere, now it comes inward.

is no different than what Hitler, Stalin did, only with Hitler the method was concentration camps, with Stalin it was sending them to Siberia, what makes our leaders feel exceptional in doing it is we do it with bombs.

Cheney, dubya, clinton, obama the chickenshit leaders should all be in jail.

@Strife Delivery that the only remaining lesson from Nuernberg apparently, is don't lose a war. Everything else is shot.

War crimes are like white-collar crimes...

They only matter if you are on the losing side.

If you have money, power, or win, those things are forgotten*.

Who is going to bring us forward on the charges of war crimes? Who in the world will dare? Our allies? China? Russia? Our own citizens even? Nah.

Victors do not get punishment because they are in charge of who does get punishment. So if America slaughters innocent civilians, they were "collateral damage". If a Middle Eastern country slaughters innocent civilians, it is a crime against humanity and must be stopped.

@Linda Wood Am at the Nuremberg Trials and the constant thread thwarting Roosevelt and others against the Nazis was our man in Bern, Allen Dulles. Talk about double dealing.

Your quotes fill in another part of the plot(s). I wonder if the Bush/Harriman group are mentioned in this book.

It was about money (the Dulles Brothers were lawyers for international industrialists, and in this case, German) and power (Dulles was explicitly told not to make separate peace with known Nazis like Wolffe, but he did anyway. Eventually Dulles saw to it that Wolffe and others were gotten out of the trials and to safe harbours in other countries including the US.

He believed only these same industrialists could rebuild Germany, as they were the only ones in his thinking who could. He also saw the upper echelons as people of distinction, not unlike he saw himself. Bearing, uniforms, money, good cigars, and scotch all were part of the picture he painted of himself and the Nazis he held common cause with.

Dulles received direct information from Poland about the exterminations, and was visited by wealthy and well educated businessmen who documented the extent of the the camps, but buried the information and prevented Roosevelt from knowing about what was going on for quite awhile.

Eleanor Roosevelt didn't trust Dulles from the beginning, but her husband felt they needed a "spy" who knew the ropes. Bad mistake which reverberated for years.

is a time-honored tradition of our government, leading to the rampage of war and oppression we continue today.

Standing, second from the right, is Averell Harriman, present at the Yalta Conference in 1945 as a Nazi industrialist, a Soviet industrialist, and survivor to become U.S. Sec. of Commerce, Governor of New York, Democratic Party enforcer, and very wealthy 94-year-old:

http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/c...

… Friedrich Flick was the major co-owner of the German Steel Trust with Fritz Thyssen, Thyssen’s long-time collaborator and occasional competitor. In preparation for the war crimes tribunal at Nuremberg, the U.S. government said that Flick was “ one of leading financiers and industrialists who from 1932 contributed large sums to the Nazi Party … member of `Circle of Friends’ of Himmler who contributed large sums to the SS. ”

Flick, like Thyssen, financed the Nazis to maintain their private armies called Schutzstaffel (S.S. or Black Shirts) and Sturmabteilung (S.A., storm troops or Brown Shirts).

The Flick-Harriman partnership was directly supervised by Prescott Bush, President Bush’s father, and by George Walker, President Bush’s grandfather.

The Harriman-Walker Union Banking Corp. arrangements for the German Steel Trust had made them bankers for Flick and his vast operations in Germany by no later than 1926.

The Harriman Fifteen Corporation (George Walker, president, Prescott Bush and Averell Harriman, sole directors) held a substantial stake in the Silesian Holding Co. at the time of the merger with Brown Brothers, Jan. 1, 1931. This holding correlated to Averell Harriman’s chairmanship of the Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation, the American group owning one-third of a complex of steel-making, coal-mining and zinc-mining activities in Germany and Poland, in which Friedrich Flick owned two-thirds.

The Nuremberg prosecutor characterized Flick as follows:

“ Proprietor and head of a large group of industrial enterprises (coal and iron mines, steel producing and fabricating plants) … `Wehrwirtschaftsfuhrer’, 1938 [title awarded to prominent industrialists for merit in armaments drive–`Military Economy Leader’]…. ”

For this buildup of the Hitler war machine with coal, steel and arms production, using slave laborers, the Nazi Flick was condemned to seven years in prison at the Nuremberg trials; he served three years. With friends in New York and London, however, Flick lived into the 1970s and died a billionaire.

On March 19, 1934, Prescott Bush–then director of the German Steel Trust’s Union Banking Corporation–initiated an alert to the absent Averell Harriman about a problem which had developed in the Flick partnership. Bush sent Harriman a clipping from the New York Times of that day, which reported that the Polish government was fighting back against American and German stockholders who controlled “ Poland’s largest industrial unit, the Upper Silesian Coal and Steel Company…. ”

The Times article continued: “ The company has long been accused of mismanagement, excessive borrowing, fictitious bookkeeping and gambling in securities. Warrants were issued in December for several directors accused of tax evasions. They were German citizens and they fled. They were replaced by Poles. Herr Flick, regarding this as an attempt to make the company’s board entirely Polish, retaliated by restricting credits until the new Polish directors were unable to pay the workmen regularly. ”

The Times noted that the company’s mines and mills “ employ 25,000 men and account for 45 percent of Poland’s total steel output and 12 percent of her coal production. Two-thirds of the company’s stock is owned by Friedrich Flick, a leading German steel industrialist, and the remainder is owned by interests in the United States. ”

In view of the fact that a great deal of Polish output was being exported to Hitler Germany under depression conditions, the Polish government thought that Prescott Bush, Harriman and their Nazi partners should at least pay full taxes on their Polish holdings. The U.S. and Nazi owners responded with a lockout. The letter to Harriman in Washington reported a cable from their European representative: “ Have undertaken new steps London Berlin … please establish friendly relations with Polish Ambassador [in Washington]. ”

A 1935 Harriman Fifteen Corporation memo from George Walker announced an agreement had been made “ in Berlin ” to sell an 8,000 block of their shares in Consolidated Silesian Steel. But the dispute with Poland did not deter the Bush family from continuing its partnership with Flick.

Nazi tanks and bombs “ settled ” this dispute in September, 1939 with the invasion of Poland, beginning World War II. The Nazi army had been equipped by Flick, Harriman, Walker and Bush, with materials essentially stolen from Poland.

There were probably few people at the time who could appreciate the irony, that when the Soviets also attacked and invaded Poland from the East, their vehicles were fueled by oil pumped from Baku wells revived by the Harriman/Walker/Bush enterprise.