Trump formally stops the TPP, and announces NATFA renegotiation

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For the first time (in my lifetime), we now have a U.S. President that actually matches his actions with his campaign rhetoric about standing up for the American worker, and working in the service restoring our (systematically gutted out) U.S. Manufacturing Base:


First Monday: President Donald J. Trump killed the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) once and for all on Monday, signing an executive order officially withdrawing from the trade deal negotiation. There.....that was easy!

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Trumps remarks:

I deal with foreign companies all the time. The trade deal is a disaster for many reasons. We’ve been talking about this for a long time … great thing for the American worker what we just did."

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Trump also announced planned meetings have been scheduled with Mexico and Canada with the intention of completely renegotiating NAFTA.

Of course, Obama also had claimed that he would renegotiate NAFTA when speaking out on the Campaign trail (in a few select chosen Primary States).

But he never once repeated the claim during either of his General Elections, and never planned one single meeting with Mexico or Canada on the subject, or voiced one peep of opposition to NAFTA in his entire 8 years sitting behind his desk (or playing Golf) as U.S. President. Conversely, he and Hillary Clinton were key architects of the shameful TPP trade deal (often referred to as "NAFTA on steroids").

Obama: "No We Can't".
Trump: "Yes We Will."


Trump just did more lasting good in his first full day of office than Obama did in 8 whole years.

oh...but the U.S. Media will tell us that he just exists to steal the bust of MLK from the White House, and pee on people while Vladimir Putin watches him, and persecute all the blacks, women, gay people, brown people, LGBT, plus he's anti-semitic, etc., and that he is also a Russian agent, and we need to have War against Russia, and that because he's obviously another "Hitler", we must therefore impeach him.

The real deplorables keep revealing themselves ....

Imagine....a U.S. President that actually does real stuff for everyday people.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZIrw-mEC4s]

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Strife Delivery's picture

Yeah, he was going to deal with NAFTA....

And nothing.

But seems like Trump is swinging out of the gates, tackling one of the issues he said he would.

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@Strife Delivery I don't think Obama was ever actually serious about renegotiating NAFTA even in 2008.

Recall that a story got leaked indicating that his staff had calmed down the concerns of the Canadian government with a statement that this was just "campaign rhetoric and not to worry" during the middle of the 2008 Primaries. At the time this forced David Axlerod and Obama into making a public denial of the leaked story...but it got reconfirmed again later anyway.

By the time of June 2008, Obama never uttered another word about NAFTA ever again.

Obama was a great salesman, and actor -- but he never had any commitment at all to challenging the status quo or challenging real power.

In fact, he banished all "single payer" advocates from his so-called Health Care "reform" working group, and referred to them derogatorily as "the little people". But he pressed real hard on the TPP didn't he?, and on forming a "Catfood Commission" composed of GOP hacks to reduce Social Security benefits. And he inherited two Wars, and left Office with a track record of perpetrating seven! (plus ratcheting up new hostility with Russia as well, and selling weapons to ISIS/ISIL in pursuit of overthrowing the government of Syria).

Obama was always a faker.
No hope...and no change.

History will not treat him well.

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Glad he's done it but I doubt if it will continue given the grotesques he's filled his administration with.

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"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"

Deja's picture

@duckpin Maybe they'll get Tee-shirts like the deplorables did. Biggrin

Actually, they both sound like punk bands.

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edg's picture

@duckpin ... to Thesaurus.com so you can keep coming up with catchy names for people that don't fall into lockstep with you. Deplorables... Grotesques... ?...

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abortion, and public schools. He is going to be a mixed bag. It will interesting to see which side of the scale tips out.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

@dkmich My guess Trump will tip out on the "horrible" side.

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"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"

@duckpin

to something positive. People don't generally care about abortion, the environment, women, people of color, schools, or much of anything when it comes to their pocketbooks. Money always triumphs. Unles of course, it hits home. Then it is too late to do anything about anything.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

TheOtherMaven's picture

Looks like it'll be a few good things and a lot of horrible things - which will be very different indeed from eight years of thumb-sucking. Blum 3

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

@TheOtherMaven I think the 8 years of thumb sucking greased the skids for Trump. Obama has a lot of foul things to answer for in my view.
That's not to say Trump won't be worse.

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"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"

@duckpin I am disappointed with many of the comments in this thread. I was (am) a big Bernie supporter and was a delegate in our caucus. Along with Bernie, I regarded the TPP as one of the gravest threats to our working class, our environment, and our sovereignty -- both national and local. Trump campaigned on his opposition to the TPP and other "trade agreements" like NAFTA. Just three days into his term, Trump publicly and emphatically pulled the plug on the TPP and perhaps started the process of renegotiating NAFTA. He was praised by both Bernie and Trumpka. Yet what I read here is mostly negativity, denial and changing the subject to other "bad things" about Trump. I thought this place was better than this.

For the last 30 years, your metaphorical "scale" crashed through the floor on the (political) right side. Celebrate and appreciate this victory for what it is.

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Big Al's picture

Trump's idea of helping the American worker is tied to helping the corporations and billionaires first and banking on a trickle down effect, like republicans have espoused since Reagan. If the rich do well, we'll all do well, which we know is pure bullshit. Our manufacturing base cannot be restored to it's previous capacity because automation has taken most of the jobs, not NAFTA. And now that the American worker is so low paid with such meager benefits that even the Chinese are wanting to move factories here and the Mexicans are moving out, it's not like this wouldn't have happened anyway.

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@Big Al @Big Al and making our own pipelines "like in the old days" (I think that is verbatim)when he was signing some exec orders.

Is this not a positive development for US employment and mfg in that area?

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dfarrah

There were two critical issues (survival issues, life or death) in the election for me: 1) no pushing for nuclear war with Russia, and 2) no TPP/loss of sovereignty to foreign corporations..

He's taken care of (2) on his third full iday in office, and (1) is looking pretty hopeful.

Let's give credit where credit is due, even if he isn't cool and classy looking like Obama (who screwed us so badly). You want to reinforce good actions when you get them, not slap people down anyway.

I'm still thankful that we've escaped Her Heinous, the Mad Bomber, Wall Street's darling.

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Deja's picture

@Sunspots I wholeheartedly agree! And, I might be a fool, but I feel that TPP being sent down the trash chute is a PLUS for the environment too. But let's keep that, and the fact that women are workers too, secrets from The Donald's cronies, lest they try to reverse it all just to spite us lowly earth-dwelling females.

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@Deja about the TPP having a negative affect on the environment - didn't it include clauses that would allow companies to sue governments about environmental requirements that might 'burden' the companies?

News reports are that the other TPPs are 'scrambling' to continue negotiating.

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dfarrah

@dfarrah

I think you are correct

@Deja about the TPP having a negative affect on the environment - didn't it include clauses that would allow companies to sue governments about environmental requirements that might 'burden' the companies?

News reports are that the other TPPs are 'scrambling' to continue negotiating.

The TPP (and others ready-Fast-racked to follow) illegally and unconstitutionally off-shored domestic law, handing control over to corporate courts where the public interest had no standing and only the maximized anticipated future profits of thousands of involved corporations and billionaires - which the publics of all involved were to be obligated to provide even at the cost of their lives and ecology - were to be considered.

This was not merely about 'protecting corporate/investor profits', it was about the hostile corporate take-over of the Earth, using The People's own resources and militaries against us all to achieve this even though not only the very concept of democracy but our global natural life support system would be destroyed in the taking.

And I do not trust any corporate/billionaire politician not to lie in order to keep the population quiet while passing illegal law to 'legalize' the illegal, despite this disqualifying themselves from maintaining public office in breaking their oath to uphold the Constitution which is required to hold the office in the first place.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

For me, if he does these things below:

  • Avoid War with Russia
  • Avoid more horrific global "Regime Change" nonsense (Syria, Latin America, Africa, etc.)
  • Stop the ridiculous Trade Agreements
  • Rebuild our Nation's Infrastructure (a Democrat can't get this passed, but a 'Repub' can)
  • Audit the (corrupt) Bank Cartel (i don't know if he will ever do this...but he might)
  • Call out the horrible U.S. News Media (CIA controlled)
  • Break up the Big Pharma Monopoly on drug pricing, and provide some mechanism and means for lower cost Health Care (w/o Tax penalties on individuals like Obama)
  • Block the GOP Congress from cutting Medicare and Social Security (which he indicated he would)

Then ... he's made some real progress, and done a real good job.

Of course, I worry that his Tax Reform will just be more "Trickle-Down" Reaganomics nonsense, and not benefit people like me at all. And I doubt that he will really confront the terror of the CIA, or terminate the corrupt Bank Cartel ("federal" reserve) grip it has over our Economy.

But then again, even Bernie Sanders wouldn't have done the last 2 things.

So some reform is certainly better than no reform at all.


Why can't we be friends?

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@FreeSociety

I think he will go after the corruption in the CIA, though. Brennan et al were pretty vicious toward him, and when he talked to the CIA, he said (roughly), "maybe I'll build you a bigger room than this, by someone who knows how to build, with no columns - do you understand that?" The article's author suggested that he was talking about fifth columns. There have to be good analysts there who've been horrified by what their bosses have been pushing, probably distorting their analyses.

And apparently there's some thought that Janet Yellen is hostile to him and may try to destabilize the economy to make him look bad. He wouldn't take it lying down. He might push for auditing the Fed. Just what I read.

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@FreeSociety reported that big pharma is already striking back with a bunch of ads about their research and how wonderful they are.

Guess he really got under their skin with his comments. It's about time someone did something about those vampire squids, and maybe Trump will follow up his words with action.

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dfarrah

The one thing that we all know about Trump is that he is not a timid man.

He is not afraid to take on real power, and call them out on their tyranny and B.S.

It would be great if he understood the history of Andrew Jackson, the last U.S. President to really take on the Bank Cartel and fight them (although Abraham Lincoln tried to, and was assassinated).

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9McTuHn4gM]

This fight made (long ago) by Andrew Jackson needs to be repeated again, if we are ever to truly regain our Independence.

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[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl03Hwad9Ws]

This fight made (long ago) by Andrew Jackson needs to be repeated again, if we are ever to truly regain our Independence.

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[Response to "Big Al": The Devil is in the Details]

The American worker is paid low wages (compared to the 1960s after inflation), but they are no where near as low as 3rd World wages. And the tax and regulatory structure of the U.S. is also higher (less desirable) than many other industrialized nations.

Thus, was born the inspiration in the first place for Multinationals to target and exploit the Foreign labor market, and Foreign Manufacturing.

Clearly, the history of NAFTA, China Trade, and the TPP show a very, very explicit incentivisation given to Corporations to move manufacturing facilities overseas, and exploit the cheaper 3rd World and Slave Labor and Child Labor markets. This includes a sophisticated legal structure that prohibits any lawsuits against these Corporations, and allows them to freely trash the Environment (with no local government redress), and escape workers benefits, workers rights, and all labor protections. This is why almost all consumer products that you buy at retail stores everywhere never say ... "Made in USA" anymore. Mere Automation by itself has nothing to do with the orchestrated transformation and the domination of purely imported goods and imported products all throughout our American Life (replacing products that were once developed and made right here).

These trade agreements have resulted in no less than the systematic destruction of the (once supreme) U.S. Manufacturing Base, leaving behind an endless and ugly display of closed out and abandoned buildings and factories all across the landscape of The United States.

Naturally, automation has eliminated jobs in specific areas as well, but that fact (and I agree that it is a fact) does not in any way excuse or acquit NAFTA and TPP and these Globalist Corporatist evil Trade deals from the plainly destructive effect and negative impact that they have obviously have had.

Ross Perot explained what would happened very clearly (and he was right).

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ7kn2-GEmM]

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Deja's picture

@FreeSociety @FreeSociety Thou shalt not, EVER cite Ron Paul! /s

EDIT: lol wrong Right-wing guy. But Ross Perot was right on the economy, & Ron Paul was right on foreign policy. My bad!

*Remember the first time Robot Romney ran for Prez, and he and his fellow robot nominees literally laughed at Paul on the debate stage, when he said our foreign policies made us targets for terrorism?

I do!

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@FreeSociety watched Trump, in a meeting with the auto manufacturers, telling them things have to improve or he won't give them permits. (sorry about the vagueness of what I wrote, I couldn't catch the exact words.)

I don't know what permits they need to operate, but obviously Trump is quite comfortable using power and appears quite determined to keep jobs in the US.

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dfarrah

@dfarrah up.
I just saw the full clip, and when Trump was talking about permits, he was talking about reducing the time taken for environmental permits. He described himself as pro-environment, but said the permit process was taking too long.

I don't think it was the veiled threat I originally thought. UGH. My really bad, bad, bad.

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dfarrah