Putin is now officially guilty of EVERYTHING
Submitted by gjohnsit on Tue, 01/10/2017 - 3:26pm
Who is too blame for the rise of populist candidates?
The failure of neoliberalism?
Nope.
It's all because of Scary Putin.
A new report from NATO is following a narrative trend which began in the US and has since spread across Western Europe, accusing Russia of being to blame for the rise of populism worldwide, as an effort to undermine NATO and the European Union.
This report blames Russia for the election of Donald Trump in November, as well as last summer’s Brexit vote, in which Britain decided to withdraw from the European Union. It goes on to blame them for growing anti-EU movements in several other union nations, and for improving polling numbers in Germany and France for Euroskeptic parties.
Election not go your way? Blame Putin.
Economy sucks? Blame Putin.
People protesting? Blame Putin.
Stub your toe? Blame Putin.
It works for everything!
Meanwhile, the Pentagon is preparing a military response to Scary Putin.
In a throwback to the Cold War, the US is stationing thousands of troops and tanks right in Russia's backyard to "enhance deterrence capabilities" in the region...
Eventually, tanks and other materiel will be stationed in Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Hungary, and Romania.
Let's overlook the fact that, outside of an isolated sliver, Russia only borders two of those countries.
"These forces here were a direct response to the destabilizing efforts of the Russian government in the Ukraine," Lt. Gen. Tim Ray, Deputy Commander of US European Command, told KUSA.
Russia invaded the Ukrainian territory of Crimea in 2014 and eventually annexed it. Since then, a number of Baltic states have expressed fears of similar moves against them.
Let's also overlook the fact that Russia hasn't built up it's forces along the Baltic border.
Let's look at the timing instead.
Given that most of the actions in Ukraine that ostensibly have provoked the U.S. enhancement of its forces and their activities along the Russian border took place nearly three years ago, the question must be asked to what degree recent U.S. intelligence assessments of Russian intervention in the 2016 U.S. elections played a role in Mr. Obama’s decision to strengthen U.S. forces in the region.
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Well, suuuure
of course it's Putin's fault! Never mind that Russia isn't even really Communist anymore, never mind that the West acts like Putin is nothing but an autocratic dictator (which he may be, I confess I do not know) but NOW he's responsible for Bernie Sanders too? What an amazing man! I mean Jeez, if he's that good we should recruit him as POTUS and quit messing around with the idiots here who can't seem to "influence" their way out of a paper bag! Obvious snark and these idiots deserve nothing but.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
I have it on good assessments that the
CIA (shushhhhh - Top Sekrit) has incontrovertably determined that earthquakes in Oklahoma were caused by menacing Russian tabletop dancers in a nightclub a mere ten blocks from the state capitol.
And never mind all of the
overlapping business interests.
People in the US seem to think that Russia and the US don't do business together, but they do. The oil companies. for example, have joint ventures with Russian companies in the Russian seas.
And don't forget about our capitalists who helped change Russia to an oligarchy, just like the US.
But, OMG!!!! Trump has some business dealings with Russia!!
dfarrah
I know that it's true because I read it on the other place
in countless diaries since Hillary lost the election. Some of the comments there are either hilarious or down right scary because I can't believe how many people are buying into the propaganda.
Hello, WMDs anyone?
Thanks Putin
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
Yeah. I think you nailed it in your new sigline, snoopydawg.
Somewhere in existential-land the crowd is murmuring their agreement.
Projection
As in the meaning in the field of psychology.
We, the US, are probably the most guilty of interfering with other nations on a extreme level to get them to behave the way we want. We use economic, political, and military power to do this. We fund various NGOs in other countries to effect the change that we desire. We also use surrogates, when the going gets tough we pay others to do the heavy or illegal or unethical lifting.
If any country were as successful as it is claimed that Russia is in effecting change in other countries, then they would be the role model that we would worship and emulate.
This whole episode of Russia bashing is pure politics. But why? This is an incredibly dangerous game. Both Russia and the US have thousands of nuclear warheads pointed at each other on hair triggers. Aren't we running the risk of Russia misinterpreting our actions? Or perhaps correctly interpreting our actions?
The absolute insanity of this is that the great prize is to work with Russia. Think about it, the advantages are huge and there is no downside to this. Clearly entrenched interests are scared shitless about this possibility, more so than inadvertent global thermonuclear war.
Capitalism has always been the rule of the people by the oligarchs. You only have two choices, eliminate them or restrict their power.
Or, another theory might be that
Clinton and Obama are psychopaths who are always right while others are always wrong.
Yes it is a dangerous game,
and reckless and irresponsible. Neurotic projection is bad enough, but these latest aggressive moves are courting disaster. I certainly hope it is all pure politics, and that the actual intention of it is not to provoke a hot war with Russia. But sometimes very nasty stuff happens "accidentally-on-purpose".
native
And are Obama and Killary not insane?
Only the psychopathic Killary would lead the charge (from behind, a la Obama) to seek first strike against anybody else with nukes also. And how many people around c99 believe Obama is sane? If sane is legally defined as knowing right from wrong, then he and the Evil Queen are both criminally insane.
Must agree, with the addition
Must agree, with the addition that obviously only a psychopath would engage in even non-nuclear murder and dispossession of people, in other countries as well as in their own, without conscience, supporting, enabling, ordering and even finding extreme cruelties amusing, in the pursuit of ever-increasing profit and power. Those who would destroy the world of life merely to take 'it all' away from others are utterly insane, not merely minus the human portion of their brain functions.
I actually thought it even more disgusting when they were only attacking those countries/people perceived as smaller, poorer and vulnerable, although they no doubt plan to Stuxnet the defensive capacity of the larger countries the schoolyard sadists are now emboldened to publicly threaten, despite the fact that the surviving smaller kids are still fighting for their lives and freedom in their own backyards and homes virtually in every case.
Even the largest military and surveillance systems in the world have a hard time micro-controlling an entire world without destroying it in the process, even if such destruction was admitted as potentially inconveniencing those who believe they will survive the destruction even of the entire global life-support system to live in a cloistered virtual world, no doubt with virtual power to keep the (glitchable) tech running, and perhaps with virtual oxygen, virtual water and virtual safe food. Or that technology/Super Jesus will somehow swoop in just in time to save them, the only deserving few in the whole, wide world.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
It's also called
Identification with the aggressor, and sometimes results in what's called the telescoping of generations (per Faimberg's book).
Obviously, NATO is no longer
a primarily defensive alliance. It has become something entirely different, with intentions that by now, are far from benign. It seems to have morphed into an aggressively militaristic arm of the Western globalist elite, one that threatens to attack Russia at any and every opportunity, using whatever rationale or excuse that happens to be convenient.
Scary Putin!? No, Scary NATO. As Pogo once famously opined, "We have met the enemy, and he is us!"
native
In Europe, they changed the spelling of NATO
…to NAZI.
That should end any confusion anyone might have.
How ironic this is with "me and my friends"
— my "overnet" buddies who discuss geopolitics and global money flows.
In the US and EU both, the Nazis were hiding in the last places anyone would think to look. In the EU, they infiltrated the original Nazi hunters of NATO. And in the US they infiltrated the original Commie hunters of the McCarthites, the Neocons who operate the US Federal government.
They kept telling us the Third Reich would rise again. Now, Empire is within their grasp. The American and European people helped them kill their way to victory.
Quick, pretend to be a Party Democrat and they won't come for you.
There is an air of 1930's Germany in the breeze
Russians
Jewsare responsible for all of society's ills.Russians
JewsruinAryanEU Western institutions.Russians
Jewsproduce nothing and are inferior.Russians
Jewswant to take over Europe.Let's remember that in the 1930's as the Nazi's rose
Stalin was presiding over the Holodomor.
No Putin isn't Stalin; and the times have changed. However Putin is no saint and should be eyed warily imho.
Yes, I too have been wondering if the way I was feeling was similar to what sane people in Germany were feeling in the early 1930s. I'm thinking, yeah.
With a 'strong man' in Russia and what can only be described as a rise of Nazism around the World. Well, yeah, there's a stench in the air alright.
** some perspective on Putin and the Russian Kleptocray.
http://www.npr.org/2012/03/01/147653086/masha-gessen-how-vladimir-putin-...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin%27s_Kleptocracy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY3Uz4ELwM0 - Putin's rise to power
With their hearts they turned to each others heart for refuge
In troubled years that came before the deluge
*Jackson Browne, 1974, Before the Deluge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SX-HFcSIoU
Actually, the stench began just before WW1
When interlocking treaties of unlikely allies caused escalation of an assassination into massive war. Three empires collapsed: Austro-Hungary, Ottoman, and Germany. Russia merely had a "course correction" under Lenin, taking another 70 years to crumble. Of course the demise of the British Empire took another World War to accomplish. Unfortunately both World Wars only increased our capability for world-wide military dominance and expansion of our own empire.
Learn from history? What a strange idea.
I would imagine that Russian
politics generally, during and immediately subsequent to the Yeltsin era, tended to be chaotic, brutal, and sometimes violent. They have become much less so, since Putin has been in power. I think Yeltsin's handing of the reins to Putin turned out to be the smartest thing he ever did.
native
My take on Putin is what he said about himself.
Here is a youtube video of a Q&A Putin had with some German reporters. Putin was asked if he was friend to the West. His answer was roughly he was not friend, not a bride, nor a groom, but rather the President of Russia and his job to look after the interests of the Russian Federation. Relationships between states are the not same as personal relationships and should be based on mutual interests. Seems a rather mature response.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPkqUX9rqj4
The problem of getting into issues of political morality and ethics is a non-starter for me. As a comparative, Putin's sins do not match what the Western countries have done both outside and inside their countries to warrant a massive military build up that risks nuclear war.
Could I shed a few decades....
I might go with the 'Putin ate my homework' gambit.
Given the ludicrous gullibility of Hillbots/mainstream dems, I'm thinking my chances aren't so bad.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Danger. Deep state will escalate actions to remove Trump.
With the latest revelations as sourced to CNN, it looks to me like the deep state is ready to start taking serious actions against Trump. Is all this information meant to be used to remove Trump through immediate impeachment? To give the FBI/CIA enough justification to arrest Trump for some charge of espionage, etc.? Add to this the sudden quick build up of American troops in the Baltics--false flag? Obama has to declare a state of national emergency?
The deep state with the support of democrats is playing with fire. Serious fire. If Trump is removed, his supporters will take to the streets and I fully expect major violence in all parts of the country. Better get ready to bring in the National Guard as my impression is the police fully supported Trump, and no telling how they will handle violent Trump supporters.
Stock up on tuna and water.
MrWebster, I have seen many articles that the author thinks
that if Trump steps out of line then he will be impeached. In fact many have said that was the plan all along and after he's removed then Pence will step in.
If the Deep State is as powerful as some people think it is, that's why they let Hillary lose. Maybe the Clinton foundation and their networks of friends is just as powerful as the Deep State?
But we know that we aren't the ones who selects the president with our votes.
CT territory, but who the Hell really knows who is running this country?
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
Trump is not dumb
A lot of bad things may be said about him but he is not dumb. Why do you think he still maintains private guards?
I don't think he'll be impeached. Chuckles Schumer is already talking of willingness to work with him. And you can't get enough Democrats in Congress to agree on the time of day (despite the one solid truth "Putin did it").
It could be the plan, but I'm wondering
how easy he would make it on 'the deep state' to carry out any such action.
I'm thinking that tomorrow was to be the day that he held a press conference--however, I wonder if it will transpire, now. At least, as scheduled.
It wouldn't surprise me if DT decided to continue residing in the Eastern WH--to coin a similar term from the Reagan era--at least, until the public inauguration has been carried out. IIRC, Presidents are actually officially sworn in before the public ceremony. Would it be possible for him to get sworn in, and cancel a public ceremony, altogether?
Also, could he simply refuse any more briefings, meetings, etc., in D.C., until, or unless he is subpoenaed? Dunno.
Heard today that the O's have invited him to the WH prior to the inauguration ceremony. Can't imagine that DT will keep that appointment, when the reporting is blatant that it was this Administration that ensured that the intelligence officers presented him with the memo in question, a couple of days ago.
All of these events help to explain 'why' the MSM and the Bipartisan Establishment appear to fear his Twitter account so much--they may be concerned that he'll ignite civil unrest, if they bring charges.
Whew!
For sure, this is going to be a fascinating few weeks and months ahead.
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True story: in tiny Russian sliver between Poland & Lithuania
Sorry for the tangent, but. . .
In that "isolated sliver", my best friend's mom was pulled off a train by Russian military, without going around Russian territory to go from Poland to Lithuania, and without a visa. This, after visiting the U.S. Consulate, and specifically asking if she needed a visa. (Unbelievable fact of Russian wedge's existence, verified using BIG kids map book in doctor's office waiting room by me - I seriously thought she was full of shit!)
**It was something like a 13 hr ordeal. The military ("A beautiful blonde haired, blue eyed boy in his early 20s," who, "sounded American") eventually put her in a cab, and near the Russia/Poland border, cabbie pulls over, tells her he'll be back, and returns with a crate. Then he proceeds to remove the door panels, and load the doors with vodka. She loses her shizit, and runs to a nearby shop. The woman inside understands enough English to call her a new cab that safely, and uneventfully takes her to the border.**
Old Konigsberg/East Prussia
The Russians like to hide secrets there.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Maybe they'll finally find the Amber Room. It's
was supposedly smuggled out of Russia by the Nazis and hidden in Konigsberg Castle.
SNIP FROM DAILY BEAST ARTICLE
The boxes ended up in Königsberg, where the room was reassembled one last time and put on display in the Königsberg castle museum under the eye of the director—and amber expert—Alfred Rohde.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/22/the-mystery-of-the-nazi...
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Even the Russians joke about the area's corruption
Long time ago, but something about the cops in Kalingrad were giving the mafia a bad name. Or the cops weren't leaving any jobs for honest thieves...
This is not a defensive build up
This is a staging area.
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
Shades of Operation Barbarossa
But unlike Stalin, Putin is aware of the threats from the west.
The danger is too many trigger happy Lithuanians and Poles
The media covered up the fact that the Georgians were the ones who started their little war with Russia. All in the hopes of drawing in the United States into a direct fight with Russia. I am afraid some the NATO crazies might fire a missile into Russian territory and start something.
I'm sure that Putin will make a measured response
Look to how he has responded to the provocations in Georgia, Kiev and Syria.
Wed, 01/11/2017 - 3:01pm — CB
Wed, 01/11/2017 - 3:01pm — CB
Several further points to be presented from your invaluable must-read link - and thanks for posting it!
http://www.hamptoninstitution.org/west-marches-east-part-one.html#.WHajC...
And this was prior to the 'legalization' of US government propaganda for the purpose of conning the American people. And, speaking of the Clintons (bolding mine):
Two 'political' parties with but a single pathology... no wonder that the two-party trade-off trap is so strictly enforced by TPTB against the American people.
So, what price Clinton Foundation involvement, considering what we've managed to learn, as far as I can see, mostly via whistleblowers leaking, WikiLeaks and the tellingly bizarre 'explanations' of various agency heads and other public officials for extremely corrupt-appearing transactions and communications between/regarding the Clinton Foundation and large donors who happened to be in, acting for or connected to various foreign governments and financial institutions shuffling 'secret' money around for the ultra-wealthy, a group I'd confidently expect to be voted most likely to produce those very few actually benefiting from the overthrow of democratic governments/any Heads of State working for the public good to any extent and of the installation of destructive puppet governments draining and industrially poisoning their people, ecologies and countries for ever-increasing corporate/billionaire profits?
Now that government propagandization of The People of America has been illegally and unconstitutionally 'legalized' by corrupt public officials, with investigations and charges against corrupt public officials illegally and unconstitutionally stymied by such illegal and unconstitutional 'laws' passed against the public interest by such corrupt public officials and Homeland Security has taken control over the long-rigged US elections, shutting out any shriveled hope of independent/citizen oversight/verification of accuracy in reported electoral results, will the American people continue to accept even this degree of blatancy employed by their selected government in their own ongoing dispossession and expendability and the extinction-for-profit of virtually all life on the planet in the near future in order to enable a relative few - however briefly - to claim totalitarian planetary power and control?
I'd suggest (re-)reading this interesting refresher in full at source, ideally right after doing the same with CB's linked paper, if at all possible.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/foreign-governments-gave-million...
And the proof is in the pudding! Just look at how many tainted and ineffective AIDs drugs those billions bought and how many luxury hotels that 2 billion - presumably accumulated by 2013/2014, going by the date written and depending upon how recent the available data was at the time - had enabled for suffering people around the world stricken with disaster! Although administrative costs are, indeed, high...
Now the craze for 'charitable Foundations' amongst certain of the politically-connected super-wealthy can potentially be viewed with 20% more perspective!
Looks to me as though the corporate/billionaire terrorists have been partially 'charitably' funding themselves tax-free, as well as using the public money and resources of the people of various countries, en route to global corporate/military theft and destruction of the Earth itself and it all essentially rests on letting faked elections, appalling appointments to public service positions with the clear intent of abuse and unconstitutional 'law-making', as well as law-breaking, for the few and their lackeys, stand as a 'done deal to be fixed later', until it's too late.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFs-ycSo-14
Ellwood - Sunshine Garden
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
In a war between Russia and the US, tanks and soldiers
won't mean a damn thing other than targets to be vaporized as the opening act. It's all for show in the big game. Unfortunately, it's a very dangerous game being played by the warmongers at NATO.
Here's a voice of reason:
Maybe wrong question
, the question must be asked to what degree recent U.S. intelligence assessments of Russian intervention in the 2016 U.S. elections played a role in Mr. Obama’s decision to strengthen U.S. forces in the region. Maybe the question should be what role does the military build up in the area and on Russia's border play in the accusations that Russia hacked the election, or maybe both.
The NATO forces buildup along Russia's borders was started
in 2015 called Operation Atlantic Resolve as a response to the repatriation of Crimea by Russia. The cost has gone from $1 billion in 2015 to $3.4 billion for 2017. It involves rotations in Poland and the Baltic states.
I really think the putsch in Kiev was timed to coincide with the Sochi games. The US expected it to cause enough turmoil that Sevastopol and Crimea could be compromised and be taken over by the new puppet government. They didn't expect Putin's lightning fast response that ended up sealing the Crimean border before the Banderites could infiltrate and cause mayhem to be blamed on him.
Putin knows the American playbook by heart.
The deed is done
The hate is ratcheted into place now. It's over. 50% of Dems believe Putin personally oversaw hacking voting machines, changing vote totals. The propaganda worked quickly and effectively. Far too many people are gone now.
Any dissent means you are a Putin agent.
Every clerk teller, every phone, every computer, everything is now linked to Putin.
Notice the insanity of it.
You either accept the lie, or fight against it though be labeled the lie.
Put another way, if you push back against the idea that Putin is an all-powerful being and that everyone is an agent of Putin, you suddenly become an agent of Putin. You can no longer fight against it.
Wed, 01/11/2017 - 12:39pm —
Wed, 01/11/2017 - 12:39pm — Strife Delivery
Luckily the Dems are now grossly outnumbered by Indies and probably by Repubs as well. That without taking into account the many falsified polls and media claims intended to influence public perception of which we have been made aware.
Reposting this yet again, with some additions, including that of my emphasis in some quoted areas:
Please note the year in which this was passed, and under which Dem President - and that the State Dept. (among others) seems still loaded with 'above the law' Clinton appointees/supporters publicly and purportedly 'legally' lying through their teeth.
http://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa-legalizes-propaganda-2012-5?op=1
And for those who may be on devices making the following of links difficult:
https://www.occupycorporatism.com/how-the-ndaa-allows-us-gov-to-use-prop...
As those reporting facts are threateningly accused of somehow unduly 'hacking/influencing the election', one can also see by the light of the projection itself that those accusers using expedient and multipurpose fictions to achieve their own destructive aims always accuse others of what they do themselves...
And when government propaganda and all other abuses are illegally made 'law', no protective agency could even pretend to run any real investigation or place charges against corrupt officials - and how do they tell the hens destined for the factory farm that the foxes have long since established their coup by betraying their country, Constitution and people, spreading corruption world-wide and illegally altering law to ensure that, for the relative few, the world is to be their oyster, to be helplessly devoured alive? This assuming that The People continue to accept illegal and unconstitutional self-interest-selected 'government' and 'law' as 'legitimate and binding' and continue to wait for some miraculous outside aid for long enough - just a little bit longer, while the last jack-booted step is completed - of course.
The notion of there ever having been any intention of establishing a democracy which could be removed and altered to a fascist, oligarchical or other non-democratic state at any point by anyone in public office at the time is so far beyond ludicrous as to be insane - once adopted, democracy is an inherent state, entailed for those to come in perpetuity.
In a democracy, those charged with and paid by the public for serving the public interest can never claim any 'authority' to control the minds and perceptions of The People to whom the country and government belong. They have merely revealed themselves, yet again, of having betrayed the oath to uphold their Constitution which they must make and keep in order to hold - or to retain - such public office and the powers delegated by The People in order that the office-holders may serve the public interest.
Edited to add: Now that Homeland Security has seized upon the '9/11/Russia/whatever they think sounds plausible' excuse to now take over control of elections, does anyone think it's actually still possible for Americans to vote their way out of this? This time, it's ALL of OUR lives, fortunes and sacred honor being not risked but sacrificed by a relative few in order to destroy the very concept of democracy, as well as life on the planet in the very near future.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Thanks for gathering these links together
…at the end of this long discussion. Your own comments are very interesting, as well.
You have a lot of focus invested into some very important topics. In this case, it's a core issue from which everything politically possible emerges: "If the American people are thoroughly misinformed and their attitudes about reality have been manipulated to give support to policies that are against their own best interests — what is the point of this endless struggle on the Left?"
All evidence from the second half of the twentieth-century onward suggests that engagement in US politics is a waste of a human life on nationalism. I am amazed that people don't leave for more worthy places, in order to actualize their full potential in true liberty. Are they not driven to see their unique potential fully bloom? Was the human drive for the evolution of self extinguished by American culture?
Oh well. I just wondered that you don't assemble your thoughts and insights into published essays. You have amassed a lot of knowledge and expertise in revealing the deliberate sabotage that undermines American society.
Thanks again for this pool of significant links.