Excellent Protest Coverage From L.A. Times
Submitted by Meteor Man on Sun, 11/13/2016 - 12:21am
Very surprising:
Anti-Trump protest draws 6,000 people
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-live-major-anti-trump-protest...
After an 8,000-person march earlier Saturday, over 100 anti-Donald Trump protesters remained on the steps of City Hall after the sun set.
LAPD continues to monitor anti-Trump protest
Make that LAPD, LASD, CHP, Homeland Security and Metro continue to monitor protesters. Since Wednesday we have been inundated with a constant presence of 10-20 law enforcement vehicles and helicopters.
This has been a massive over reaction by law enforcement to legitimate, peaceful protest.
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Those numbers can't possibly be correct!
There is a diary over at the other place that says there are 100,000 protesting in LA! Of course the people over there are little delusional right now, but hey 6-8k or 100k. It's close!!!
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush
Tell that to the people at Standing Rock:
Btw, even if it was a thousand people protesting, it is a great many more than could be dragged to an HRC rally.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
Massive over-reaction
Have they been shot with rubber bullets? Sprayed with mace from high-pressure hoses? Had their clothing removed? Locked up in dog kennels?
"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi
"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone
They'll get to it, give em time.
THEY wouldn't hesitate to resort to that of it was thought to be effective. In a big city it might well back fire by bringing out many more protestors. They'll start in with the demonization and once they've delegitimized the protestors, the hammer will be brought down.
I doubt it
These are people protesting in favor of the establishment and their chosen trojan candidate. It'll probably be met with the same resistance that a sports game victory riot is met with: next to nothing.
I'm sorry, but I don't get the timing of these protests.
Are they protesting the election results? If so, that looks anti-democratic. It looks like the protesters don't approve of the people who voted for Trump, which is as stupid as the reaction at TOP.
Maybe it's "pre-emptive" protest. After all, we now commonly have pre-emptive wars.
There will be plenty to protest once Trump starts revealing his staff and cabinet noms. There will be even more when he actually starts introducing legislation and issuing executive orders. By then, it might actually be possible to draw some disappointed Trump people into the protests.
If they absolutely want to protest now, they should head to ND and support some real direct action.
As the other commenters have pointed out, the other thing that is malodorous about these protests is the relative kid gloves with which the cops are handling them. Real protests engender head busting and worse in response.
Maybe I am being foolish but I think we may be overlooking one
possibility with regards to Trump.
I have a family member that not only had extensive business dealings with Trump, but has been a personal friend of his since the 80's. (He owned the largest Concrete plant in the NY/NJ/PA Tri-state area and supplied many of his buildings and projects with said material.)
What I have gleaned from several conversations with he and my aunt is that Trump, in addition to having a huge ego, has an equally huge desire to recognized as a "regular blue collar guy that happens to be a billionaire."
He suspects this was largely formed early when Trump had to work for his father in various levels of construction that involved him working directly with the regular construction workers/Tradesmen.
So, couple that with his statements in the past that he would run a "West Wing" style of presidency (Yeah right, I am not that delusional).
But he does want to be admired by the working man more than by his fellow millionaires and billionaires, whom he feels have mostly snubbed and mocked him for most of his life.
So while this is probably hogwash, and is coming from an uncle who, while not a full blown RWNJ, is very wealthy and very conservative himself, at least he is one of those conservatives that you can have a rational discussion with, and these are the impressions I have garnered over several conversations on the subject with him Italian style.
Aka, over several bottles of wine and entirely too much home cooked food.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
What's Next After the Election - Socialist Workers
From the Socialist Workers. They have been out demonstrating and this explains why. They are protesting the whole damn system and don't have anything good to say about anybody but Bernie. Until I heard this I was questioning the motives behind the protests, and still do. But at least I now know what (one of) my preferred party is up to and that they at least didn't abandon #BlackLivesMatter, #Immigrants and #NoDAPL .
Its not about electoral politics. Its about the system.
https://www.facebook.com/socialistworker/videos/vb.20615044065/1
You can scroll ahead about ten minutes until the woman on the right starts to speak.
If I saw the crowds in LA correctly, and these weren't photos of demonstrations in Europe being passed off as LA... my estimate would be closer to 100,000 than 8,000.
From the Light House.
Not every protest against Trump is the same
or has the same agenda. But the MSM doesn't do nuance, they go for sensationalism.
Unless, of course, it's a protest in North Dakota where dogs, mace, pepper spray, guns, etc. are being used against people with a very specific purpose whose reaction to their treatment has been remarkably peaceful and restrained.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
The March of the Committeemen
LA has almost 5000 precincts.
One Dem apparatchik from each precinct and Voila!
Instant astroturf.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?