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and as best as I can figure it out. White women Democrats cost Hillary the Election.

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With their hearts they turned to each others heart for refuge
In troubled years that came before the deluge
*Jackson Browne, 1974, Before the Deluge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SX-HFcSIoU

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Hillary Clinton on Saturday cast blame for her surprise election loss on the announcement by the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey

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dervish's picture

and a Democratic one?

I thought the Russians did it, or at least the Estonians.

I can't keep it straight.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

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Or the mafia. Mole people on the moon defending themselves from pre-emptive space wars. Or sentient silkworms from another dimension where they are the dominant species.

I think my efforts to show just how much the loss is not hillary's fault have given birth to some Scy-fi channel movie ideas.

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but the Queen.

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I'm not looking forward to the anger phase.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

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I would go into hiding.

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Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.

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he'd fire Comey.

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Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.

From other reports, HRC likes to throw heavy objects at the head of her target.

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She really doesn't have power anymore, nor does Bill. I think they're both pretty much done in politics. It will take Establishment Dems and their pals a while to figure this out, but most of the voting public isn't interested in them anymore. Same as the Bush Family Evil Empire.

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"If you can't eat their food, drink their booze, take their money and then vote against them you've got no business being in Congress."

Isn't that the truth? Nothing is ever the fault of the Clintons.

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“Mr. Comey’s letters to Congress went against the F.B.I.’s longstanding tradition of avoiding decisions that could affect elections, but he told aides that he felt he had no choice because he had already weighed in on the case so publicly. In July, he had taken the unusual step of publicly announcing that the F.B.I. would not charge Mrs. Clinton.”

When you buy a politician you expect him to stay bought!

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And here I thought it was those deplorable basement dwellers over at caucus99%.....

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But our secret is safe, so far.

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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X

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we'll stop repeating the truth that she is to blame for her loss.

I'm sick of hearing about the damn emails!

People want a decent standard of living, a decent environment, and human rights. She couldn't even stand up for #NoDAPL a few days before the election. It should come as no surprise that when you give the people lukewarm support at best, they give you back lukewarm support at best.

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People want a decent standard of living, a decent environment, and human rights. She couldn't even stand up for #NoDAPL a few days before the election. It should come as no surprise that when you give the people lukewarm support at best, they give you back lukewarm support at best.

I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

-- Christian Scriptures, Revelation 3:15-16 (KJV) source

And that's exactly what happened. Large swathes of the electorate spued her out of their mouths.

Diablo

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You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked.

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and that person is not James Comey. That person is Hillary Rotten Clinton. Had you never set up a private server, that you now admit was a mistake, to hide your communications from FOIA requests, Comey would have had nothing(yeah, I know) to investigate!! You are solely responsible!!!

It amazes me! I was looking "over there" last night and there were multiple diaries with titles like, "We now have proof that Comey was responsible for Clinton's loss". All of them based on some interviews with people who supposedly made up there minds to vote for a candidate 8-10 days out from the election vs. those that made up their minds 2-3 days before the election. Yep, that's some really scientific proof you have there morons!

Those same people, who claimed that the entire email thing was a huge "nothingburger" are now blaming the entire loss on the email server and what happened because of it. We tried to warn those morons, but they simply wouldn't listen.

For those interested, this is what an Email Nothingburger looks like!!

Hillary Clinton Email Nothingburger

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sure, they rigged the Democratic primary process, but how dare anyone find out! And, having found out, how dare anyone judge her!

The most pathetic part of this race was "the Russians!", used to try to confuse people. It was worthy of a street 3 card monte dealer. Only rubes would be taken in. Yet it was a real strategy used by a real candidate.

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The first obviously was to try to create a distraction to the contents of the emails. As bad as that was, the second prong is even more sinister, if not downright evil. And from my point of view it was somewhat successful and was planning to be used in a future Clinton presidency. The second prong was building a unwarranted sense of distrust and hatred of Russia so it could be used by Clinton to further her objectives of a no-fly zone in Syria and whatever else she had planned.

She was actually willing to use her email scandal to try and get the American public on board with actions that could provoke and possibly lead to a war with Russia. Most of America doesn't see this, but IMO we really dodged a bullet by keeping her away from the levers of power. She truly is a disgusting excuse for a human being.

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That makes us feel better.

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Because as I remember it, that was EXACTLY Donna Brazile's reaction on that CNN interview. It was my fault for reading the stolen emails.

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Me (to the above even taller burger):

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Yum! Where do I start?

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ROFL

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

If he would have lived to be 275 years old, America wouldn't be in this fucking mess.

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just saying.
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With their hearts they turned to each others heart for refuge
In troubled years that came before the deluge
*Jackson Browne, 1974, Before the Deluge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SX-HFcSIoU

After all, he owned slaves and was part of the patriarchy and a rapist.

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I'll give you "owned slaves" and "part of the patriarchy", but I think we ought to drop the "rapist" jive. We don't really have either side of the story - not his, because he kept his mouth shut, and not hers, because we only know what her son said she told him.

This is Madison Hemings' version: "When Mr. Jefferson went to France Martha [his older daughter] was just budding into womanhood. Their stay (my mother's and Maria's [the other Jefferson daughter]) was about eighteen months. But during that time my mother became Mr. Jefferson's concubine, and when he was called back home she was enciente by him. He desired to bring my mother back to Virginia with him but she demurred. She was just beginning to understand the French language well, and in France she was free, while if she returned to Virginia she would be re-enslaved. So she refused to return with him. To induce her to do so he promised her extraordinary privileges, and made a solemn pledge that her children should be freed at the age of twenty-one years. In consequence of his promise, on which she implicitly relied, she returned with him to Virginia. Soon after their arrival, she gave birth to a child, of whom Thomas Jefferson was the father. It lived but a short time. She gave birth to four others, and Jefferson was the father of all of them. Their names were Beverly, Harriet, Madison (myself), and Eston--three sons and one daughter. We all became free agreeably to the treaty entered into by our parents before we were born."

Doesn't sound like rape to me. Making the best of a bad situation, maybe, as women have done from time immemorial. (Yes I know some of the more rabid "feminists" would call any power imbalance "rape".)

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

Dupe

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Politico:

Speaking with Democrats who raised over $100,000 for her failed bid for the presidency, the former secretary of state said Comey's second letter — just three days before the election — did more damage than the first, which landed just 11 days out, according to one individual on the call, who described her tone as clearly sad but hopeful.

So the Comey letter saying that Hillary was NOT under investigation did more damage than the previous letter saying she was.

The irony of course, is that after the first letter Hillary spent the next week ranting and raving that Comey should retract.

And when he did, that's when she really tanked.

I guess voters are more concerned about their FBI director caving to the whims of a politically powerful suspect than they are about the underlying allegations.

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Speaking with Democrats who raised over $100,000 for her failed bid for the presidency, the former secretary of state said Comey's second letter — just three days before the election — did more damage than the first, which landed just 11 days out, according to one individual on the call, who described her tone as clearly sad but hopeful.

And that is the impression most people had of her. The only people she'd deign to talk to were richies and people who were planted by her campaign.

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The only people she'd deign to talk to were richies and people who were planted by her campaign.

Hillary couldn't be bothered even to come out thank her campaign workers on election night. Instead she did her best Norma Desmond impression the next day in front of a select crowd of paying customers.

It's the Clinton way.

But here's what I don't get:

her tone as clearly sad but hopeful.

Hopeful for what?

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has registered clinton2020.com

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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But I'll bet you 2018 is already gone. Are you ready for this? Read a New York Post article last night that Chelsea is being groomed to run for Congress. They said she is planning to run in NY district 17 where Bill and Hillary's home is located. The Clinton's purchased the house next door to theirs supposedly for Chelsea so she can claim residency in the district. The seat is currently held by 79 year old Nita Lowey who is expected to retire sometime soon.

Just when you think you've finally cut the head off the beast, a new one grows to replace it! Gotta keep those pay-to-play foundation donations coming!

http://nypost.com/2016/11/10/chelsea-clinton-being-groomed-to-run-for-congress/

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She'll put everyone to sleep.

On second thought, if she gets in she'll be impossible to dislodge. What are the prospects for knocking her out in a primary and/or general?

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If the same people are running the DNC in 2018, there won't be a primary. She'll be running unchallenged. And can you just imagine how much money the Clinton machine could dump into her campaign? If she runs, it probably really will be a coronation. I think Nita Lowry has held that seat for 30 years. I think that's part of the reason they've selected a district that has been a democratic stronghold for 3 decades and maybe longer. And, what republican would stand much of a chance or have the resources to wage a well funded campaign against the Clinton's and their money machine? It's going to be very difficult to ever kill off this dynasty.

I actually thought it would be 4 to 6 years before we'd see Chelsea step forward. Now it looks like we could start hearing about in the next few months. The first sign will be when Nita Lowry announces she will be retiring and won't be running for reelection. The next sentence you'll hear...

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likes them about as much as Trump voters.

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i will refrain from checking to see whether someone has registered clinton2020.com

OK, so I did. Results below. Rather interesting, really:

ping -v www.clinton2020.com
PING www.clinton2020.com (88.208.252.9) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from server88-208-252-9.fasthosts.net.uk (88.208.252.9): icmp_seq=1 ttl=115 time=174 ms

It appears that Fasthosts Internet Ltd., Gloucester, UK, owns the domain.

Attempting to load http://www.clinton2020.com into Firefox re-directs me to http://www.noagendashow.com/, a political podcast from Austin, Texas and Silicon Valley, California.

Tres bizarre.

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No more Clinton Cavings.

She was dirty. And all of us regular, working types could smell her foulness. And we knew what were smelling no matter what others were selling.

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You betcha!

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the bejeweled crown is still within reach.
I used to dislike her but detest is sinking in.

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

Fucking media covered up the riots in WI. Ohio, Pa and Michigan after Comey sent his letter to Congress. After the letters went out, Clinton supporters staged protests and then riots. Lame stream media didn-t cover the outrage that happened in small towns all across the midwest at the letter. Reports are that people after reading the letter changed their CLinton votes to Trump.

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In her most extensive remarks since she conceded the race to Donald J. Trump early Wednesday, Mrs. Clinton told donors on a 30-minute conference call that Mr. Comey’s decision to send a letter to Congress about the inquiry 11 days before Election Day had thrust the controversy back into the news and had prevented her from ending the campaign with an optimistic closing argument.

“There are lots of reasons why an election like this is not successful,” Mrs. Clinton said, according to a donor who relayed the remarks. But, she added, “our analysis is that Comey’s letter raising doubts that were groundless, baseless, proven to be, stopped our momentum.”

She then goes on saying that the polling data from a few days or weeks before showed that she was going to win.
Didn't most of the polls show that after the emails were released?
Get a clue Hillary, you lost because of too many reasons to list.
No one believed that you weren't against the TPP.
That you were going to work on making the ACA better (universal health care will never ever happen)
The number of neocons from the Bush administration that were involved with PNAC endorsed you.
The number of people from financial institutions that want to privatize SS who endorsed you.
Your insistence of creating a no fly zone over Syria risking a war with Russia.
Your history of being a warmonger.
And the damage that you and Bill did to the people in this country when you passed welfare reform, the crime bill, deregulation of the banks, the telecommunications act.
Your vote for the Patriot act, the NDAA, expanding the NSA and illegal spying and everything else listed below.
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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

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Quick, try to catch me.

Biggrin

And thanks your post makes me feel so much better. Been a long week. xox

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It just boggled my mind that her supporters knew about who she really was and her views on these issues and were going to vote for her anyway.

I have been reading articles from people who are freaking out about what Trump said he'd do if he was president, while ignoring that Obama and Hillary had already been doing those things.

They are freaking out over him saying that he is going to bomb the terrorists and their families while Obama has been killing people from drones in over 7 countries, bombed wedding parties and then the rescuers, bombed the hospital in Afghanistan and has been supporting Saudi Arabia while they are committing genocide in Yemen.
Obama and Hillary destroyed Libya on false pretenses just like Bush did to Iraq.
Is arming and funding al Quada so they can help overthrow Assad. Why are they overthrowing him? So Saudi Arabia and Qatar can install pipelines!!
Over 250,000 Syrians have been killed for that reason..
And people are afraid because of what he said he would do.

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Peace and love be with you, reader.

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of those $100,000+ donors as HRC is doing some Hill-splainin'?

I guess WJC gets the even worse job of meeting with those foreign mega-donors to the Foundation. I'll bet he's hoping it's not held at the end of a long, lonely wharf somewhere.

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In six months this criminal family will be on the lam.

Fele volente! (Cat willing!)

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Man, and here I wanted to print up a T-Shirt that said something like “I voted Green. Blame me!”

But now Comey’s beaten me to the glory. Damnit!

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if there had never been a secret email server Comey wouldn't be a part of the equation.

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The server wasn't secret. It can't be secret. Email doesn't work that way. It was private.

The thing that I found fascinating was this.

Hillary's claim: She wanted to circumvent security protocols because they inconvenienced her.
My Thought: She was wanting to avoid FOIA requests

Even if I completely accept Hillary's dubious statement, in any company I have ever worked for that is a first time firing offense. And I've never worked for the US State Department. One would think they would take such a thing a bit more seriously than most places.

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-- lotlizard

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Interesting times, indeed. And they just keep digging. [I mis-typed gigging, which may be more accurate]

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i knew 'secret' wasn't the right word at the time but i was headed to bed and the sleeping pill was kicking in. fuzzy post.

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leads me to believe access was part of the pay to play. Especially since a wide open server is such a contraindication for someone with secrecy issues, as Hillary has for everything else.

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...what is adequately explained by stupidity.

There are better ways to control internal access than leaving things wide open. Even if you want to ignore "defense in depth" to allow your clients access to everything and hiding behind plausible deniability for a lack of internal control, there is no reason to not use basic external access control. Most voters get not locking the digital front door, but I suspect fewer of them have considered the analogous utility of locks on the office doors.

No, they were just arrogant and stupid. As usual.

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