Alpha's Election Night Survival Thread/Live Blog. Now with useful tips! Part Deux!
Same great blog, new faster page.
Well, I just went and voted (Stein, couldn't bring myself to break my pledge to not vote for evil, even to stop Clinton.)
Some interesting anecdotes:
My wife went to vote right after she got off work this morning. She arrived about 20 minutes before the Florida polls opened. She reported that there were only about a dozen people in line and by the time she was done voting there was no line whatsoever.
I decided to wait and go closer to peak time (shortly after 5PM when I figured people getting off work would be arriving to vote) and there was zero line. I walked straight up to the person, surrendered my mail in ballot and then got my approval slip to pick up my ballot. (Was excited to see that my #DemExit to the Green party had already been registered!!! Woohoo!!
On my way in and out to the polling station there was a pair of large black signs with bold lettering saying, "No political advertising, signs, or electioneering beyond this point.
Can you guess what was directly in front of all four signs just past shy of the limit?
4 Trump/Pence signs.
Nowhere in the ride towards my polling place (at a church in a rural neighborhood) I saw ZERO Clinton signs.
Not a one.
About 15 Trump signs on the side of the road and on peoples lawns. (I was somewhat happy to see a couple, "VOTE GREEEN!" signs but only a couple.... Upside? That's a couple more than I saw for Clinton.
Ok, Now for the survival part of this guide.
On my way home from the polls I decided I needed to pick up some necessary supplies for the evening and the morrow.
For our first survival item we are featuring our good friend Alcohol. Ahhh, that stalwart companion that has helped me not give a shit about things in the past, if only for a short time, is going to make a strong entrance tonight I think no matter the outcome.
Now, as I was pretty sure that even that wouldn't be enough to quite help us get through the evening I had to break into my emergency supplies and bring out the big guns. (One of which you can see on the right side of the screen in the previous photo, however tonight is already necessitating the bringing out of the big guns...)
However, I fear that even with the above it may not be enough to get the job done so I have the following two items. First, one to pour into my eyes so I don't have to see that smug, arrogant evil smile if she manages to steal pull off a victory.
And a couple of these to jam into my ears so I don't ever have to hear her voice again:
(Maybe I can sue the manufacturer for not putting a warning label on those things... But then again, since that's me even if I win I wont get shit, lol!)
Well, I invite you to join me below, share the things you are seeing on the net and in R/L, and tie one on.
First hit is free...
Edited to add this LINK TO PART ONE.
Thanks again to everyone for coming
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HI and CA for Clinton - changes the situation ... ? /nt
https://www.euronews.com/live
They haven't counted a vote in either one of those states yet
California will definitely go for Clinton, but I'd wait until they count a few votes in Hawaii before making any predictions there. I fully expect Stein to have her best performance in Hawaii. She may perform well enough to throw the election to Trump.
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush
West Coast is up to bat now.
I voted for Stein. I voted for legal marijuana. Then....
I Vomited
The people, united, will never be defeated.
Cali went for Clinton?
oops, there goes the upset
Good. I'll rub this in the faces of all my friends
who said, "...but? Trump!" I told a lot of people Trump will not win CA and we have the opportunity to give the green party 5% from our state's voters alone. 5%, that magic moment when the cover charge is waived and the greens can spend their money on something other than basic access to the ballot.
And I want to give Jill Stein a "Well Done You" for holding the most adult campaign of the entire election.
Trump: I'm not her.
Clinton: I'm not him.
Stein: We're all human and this is what I want to see changed.
Johnson: I'm sorry. I didn't understand the question.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
Cali went for Clinton?
oops, there goes the upset
I pity the next secret service guy...
Who breathes wrong in Hillary's presence.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
HI and CA for Clinton - changes the situation ... ? /nt
https://www.euronews.com/live
HI and CA for Clinton - changes the situation ... ? /nt
https://www.euronews.com/live
I have to believe that Obamas legacy
legacy didn't go over that well.
Can they steal this yet?
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Nate Silver--After NC win, DT has 61% chance to win election. NT
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Nate Silver--After NC win, DT has 61% chance to win election. NT
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Nate Silver--After NC win, DT has 61% chance to win election. NT
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Nate Silver--After NC win, DT has 61% chance to win election. NT
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Nate Silver--After NC win, DT has 61% chance to win election. NT
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Nate Silver--After NC win, DT has 61% chance to win election. NT
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Nate Silver--After NC win, DT has 61% chance to win election. NT
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Nate Silver--After NC win, DT has 61% chance to win election. NT
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Nate Silver--After NC win, DT has 61% chance to win election. NT
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Good heavens! What are you doing with your comment
button there?
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Hey, EC! I was getting a bunch of error codes/messages,
and all I could see was buffering as I attempted to post the comment.
IOW, I didn't think it was transmitting, so I kept re-submitting it.
Sorry!
Mollie
“I believe in the redemptive powers of a dog’s love. It is in recognition of each dog’s potential to lift the human spirit and therefore– to change society for the better, that I fight to make sure every street dog has its day.”
--Stasha Wong, Secretary, Save Our Street Dogs (SOSD)
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Heh. There was a lot of that tonight,
although you may win the record for number of identical posts! But not by much, from what I saw. The whole thing even went down briefly. Those Russians, I'm sure!
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Good news to my friends in CA! You are now one of the states
leading the wave of the future!
Congrats on passing the Prop to legalize recreational cannabis!!!
As goes California, so goes the nation.
I give it 6 years before this gross error against freedom is rectified at the national level.
My brothers and sisters in California and the rest of the states that have been fighting to end this ludicrous laws please take a bow.
You sure have earned it.
Soon we will see a day where we stop throwing people in cages over a goddamned plant....
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
More importantly.
All those who are in prison for nothing more than pot charges will be released and their records cleared!!!!!
The people, united, will never be defeated.
Great news. Drug war takes major hit. Prison state takes hit.
I hope other four states come in also on legalization.
and a progressive democratic party could have ridden
this entirely forseeable, inevitable cultural wave to legislative majorities all over the country.
but, noooooooooooo!
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
I stopped watching TYT and
I stopped watching TYT and Cenk shortly after the primaries when they jumped on the Hillary is the best we can do bandwagon. Tuned in tonight and Cenk went on a righteous rant. If nothing else, maybe this will mean we get our progressive fire breathers back.
Had to turn off TYT, Democracy Now is having amazing roundtables
all night.
Really dissecting the confluence of money in politics and the role of media in creating Trump because he was "good for business."
Good to hear Cenk, who is a great proponent of getting money out of politics but bought The Fear, was revved up enough to deliver a righteous rant. Seemed more and more he was pissed off at how lame the Clinton campaign truly was and was finding his indignation from when Bernie was ripped off.
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
Alan Nairn on Democracy Noa - first time I really
listened to him consciously - he and Nichols make excellent comments on Amy's live show.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Sorry for the duplicates! Is there a glitch in the system? I'm
having difficulty (on my end) processing comments--they appear to buffer and buffer in an endless loop, and/or I get a 503 Error Message.
(I will attempt to transmit this once. So, not sure it will show up.)
Mollie
“I believe in the redemptive powers of a dog’s love. It is in recognition of each dog’s potential to lift the human spirit and therefore– to change society for the better, that I fight to make sure every street dog has its day.”
--Stasha Wong, Secretary, Save Our Street Dogs (SOSD)
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
So it doesn't look like
So it doesn't look like either will reach 270. Does that mean it goes to congress or something??
If neither reaches 270
It goes to the House of Representatives. We know how that would go.
" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "
Do we? I can see either the Repugs sticking together,
or the corporatists sticking together.
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Nate was castrated.
Mr. Silver has been not only dropped under the wheels of all major websites, he also had the temerity to say he wasn't sure about his predictions as in it might be too close to call.
Trump has a 77% chance of winning as of 11:34pm eastern time.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Trump just took Florida. Unreal. EOM
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
We must look weird from the outside!
Heh--I'm in Florida and so are a couple others--I think it was GulfGal who first noted that if Clinton didn't nail down the I-4 corridor (Daytona Beach/Orlando/Tampa), Trump would take Florida, and I was definitely inclined to agree with her. I'm betting that was the swing area again and it went solid as can be to the red this time. Solid. Scary solid.
Speaking of "red", I read that one of the counties I used to live in (Flagler) voted out every single Democrat in state and local offices. All of them. Gone. I think there are some "non-party affiliated" folks in local offices, but Dems are history.
Actually I was wrong about I-4
What I found amazing about Florida is Hillary won all the most populous counties except Pinellas and Duval (Jacksonville). She won Hillsborough, Orange, and Osceola along the I-4 corridor. She also won Palm Beach, Broward, and Miami-Dade in the SE, all of which are usually blue counties. In addition she won Alachua (University of Florida) and Leon (FSU and FAMU) in the north along with the most blue county in the state, Gadsden. Trump won all the other counties.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Sorry, guys, I think we broke the damn site again!
The duplicate post monster is out in full force and the lag time for when I try to post is really bad.
I apologize on behalf of C99P for any inconvenience and I am sure JTC and crew are working on fixing the problem.
In the meantime, all I can say is wow. Just look at this.
Fox just called WI for Trump, and looking at the numbers, opinion of them aside, I gotta say I think they are right.
IF they are right, I think my earlier call will hold and that is the nail in the coffin of the Clinton Candidacy.
Barring any major electoral college chicanery that is.
We do have to remember that they are NOT obligated to vote the way of their state and only face a $1000 fine for doing so.
But looking at the number Trump is a LOT closer to that magic 270 even with CA already in Hillary's corner.
WI, MN, NV and MI are gonna be the deciding states in this election but PA is still in play too. (However I expect despite Pennsyltucky PA will go Clinton.)
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
But but but the Dems said the Russians /s
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
kos now supports Bernie
for minority leader.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
WTF?!
ooops, my bad,
DNC pooh bah.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
ashes, ashes ...
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
TOP must be crapping
their Carters! Midnight here in the East and this hasn't been called for Her Highness?! wow! I hate to tell TOP that I told them so - becuz I did - but... I prolly will.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
Do you hear that?
That's the sound of thousands of head exploding simultaneously.
The people, united, will never be defeated.
Either people are wrong that Clinton was the best
candidate the Dems could have run.
OR the best candidate the Dems could run lost to the worst candidate since WW2.
Gore - Kerry - Clinton - they were warned each time.
Well, with the reminder
that the DNC and Team Hillary stole the Primary.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
While true, it gives them something to rail against and ignore
your fork.
I think keep it clean, keep it simple, either they were wrong or the Dems are wrong.
Michigan, the new swingier state.
Looks like it's all going to come down to Michigan.
Michigan, the new swingier state.
Looks like it's all going to come down to Michigan.
NH and Michigan are going to be the Battleground states
Looking at Real Clear Politics No Tossup Map Hellery was projected to win 272-266...
However NH with 4 EC Votes and Michigan with 16 EC Votes were projected to be Hellery wins...
They are leaning Trump so we shall see Looks like the urban areas in both have already reported...
On a lighter note I made my symbolic vote for Jill Stein and went Green across the board then with a va fungool to Hellery and her New Democrats any spaces left without a Green voted Republican...
Yea Hellery has this in the bag... LOL
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
Had to vote d for gov
Right to work for less is a given otherwise. Other than that g when it was available.
Solidarity forever
PBS noted that the immigration website for Canada crashed
(implying that a lot of US citizens are looking for the exits.)
I wonder how much it's going to cost us...
when Canada makes us build the wall?
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush
Anyone near or at retirement age: Prepare to surrender >$100K
to buy into Canada. Otherwise, you can only stay 6 months/year. I am in the process of getting out of Canada.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
I'm going to hell for certain!!
I've been watching CBS for election results and they just showed video of the people in Clinton campaign headquarters. No one speaking a word, heads hanging down and people wiping tears from their eyes. They looked like they just watched a plane crash that had their entire families on board. And I'm laughing my ass off! They are simply stunned!!
I've been using Fox News page for the internet results and they currently have it 209 Clinton, 254 Trump after calling Wisconsin and Georgia for Trump. He only needs 16 more and 11 of those will come from Arizona. Just about any other state and he wins the election!! I'm calling it for Trump. It's over!!! You can stick a fork in her. But use a very long fork. It's going to be messy!!!
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush
"Bernie woulda won" is top of rec list at TOP
This would be funny if it wasn't so tragically true.
O.k. When is the next meeting for the revolution?
-FuturePassed on Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:22 p.m.
Good Lord
This is surreal. I really thought she'd win. I really thought she'd steal it. I wonder if she'll concede?
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Thank you! We told them!
Makes me so mad, but I too may be going to hell for watching CNN and the Guardian with pix of Dems crying and laughing away. I'm worried to see Rump win, I admit, but I'm not panicked and this isn't our fault. WE TOLD THEM! They blew us off and showed us nothing but contempt. This may be the revenge of the Bags I've always thought would happen. They'll blame the brown people, but they also know it isn't only the brown people. Some do. F*ck OBama for trying to shove her down our throats. And now maybe they let that market crash happen, perfect excuse for it when its been coming anyway.
I'm shocked I'm still watching it, but not really. I am enjoying seeing Shillary sweat. I still think she pulls this out, come hook or crook, hah hah, but ya never know.
Grand Marnier for a bit for me, ran out of that so a little vodka. And I'm in WA so have been enjoying other legal substances too. Good thing I ran out of Grand Marnier, it is my candy and I can go through half a bottle when really into it. Not so fun the next morning! But hey, whoopee, we're all gonna die anyway, right?!
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
Bernie woulda won
Booker woulda won.
Klobuchar would have won.
Brian Schweitzer would have won. Sharrod Brown could have won.
I hate to see the demise of the party of Jefferson and FDR, but the time has come to put this disease ridden organization out of its misery.
Mary Bennett
Allan Lictman might be right after all!
He predicted a Trump win 7 weeks ago. He doesn't rely on polls, this is from an interview with him:
The whole story here:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/23/trump-is-heade...
Thanks, Thoughful. The Professor was
interviewed barely a week ago (on XM Radio), saying that he was standing by his prediction.
Here's a piece about his methodology.
I've seen him on C-Span for years, but had never heard him speak of his 'keys to the White House' methodology.
Mollie
“I believe in the redemptive powers of a dog’s love. It is in recognition of each dog’s potential to lift the human spirit and therefore– to change society for the better, that I fight to make sure every street dog has its day.”
--Stasha Wong, Secretary, Save Our Street Dogs (SOSD)
The SOSD Fantastic Four
Available For Adoption, Save Our Street Dogs, SOSD
Taro
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Interesting conversation on Democracy Now
With I believe Wayne Bartlett author of biography on Trump. He brought up Trump's ties with FBI and Louis Frei's dislike of the Clintons. I read about a soft coup within the FBI to stop her from becoming President on reddit. I have to wonder if perhaps Comey's acts did impact this.
O.k. When is the next meeting for the revolution?
-FuturePassed on Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:22 p.m.
Wow, sorry guys, I don't know what happened but C99P
decided to go all hater on me. (I blame the DNC and the Clintons! LoL!)
This is the first post I have been able to make.
I will go and grab a quick update, talk some shit and then grab another beer. (Negra 9 down, but I have yet to touch the wine. The other stuff? All I can say is, "Ohhhh Yeah!")
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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Yep! The Bloody Mary's are done...
time to move on to the Margaritas! I'll probably be passed out by 4:00 this afternoon!
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush
I was thinking
I might have to throw the empty bottle through the monitor screen during Herself's victory speech.
Mary Bennett
People came out for Trump that did not come out for Romney
Here in PA
http://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/ENR_NEW#
with 92.96% of the vote in,
Clinton 47.85%
Trump 48.65%
Stein 0.82%
Johnson 2.33%
If this is anywhere close to the final tally, brace yourselves for decades of Stein's impact in PA being equated to Nader's in FL in 2000.
It continues in the important Senate race, with
McGinty 47.52%
Toomey 48.50%
Tomorrow will be one long, noisy day.
David Sirota is a Great Pundit. Thank God for Democracy Now. nt
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
I can't help but wonder what Jon Stwart and Colbert are thinking
right now.
O.k. When is the next meeting for the revolution?
-FuturePassed on Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:22 p.m.
Stewart & Colbert are part of the problem.
They're cush multi-millionaires who have made their living basically getting middle class Neoliberal white folks pacified into feeling a self-satisfied superiority over their RW counterparts. They've occasionally walked up to the line but have never been about biting the hand that feeds, as real radical Left comedians in the past such as George Carlin, Bill Hicks, Lenny Bruce, Richard Pryor or even Mark Twain had.
What they've succeeded in doing, more than anything else, is supplanting any notion of real civic engagement, participation in a movement and real subversion of the status quo (how ridiculous was that "rally" in Washington?) for coy mockery.
Lee Camp and Jimmy Dore are the only comics out today who have shown the fortitude and temerity to take on the entire system.
We need to begin clearly identifying our true allies. And in this election cycle so many have been bitten by the dogs of Fear that the ones who haven't deserve our great respect and fealty. Took a lot of balls for Camp and Dore to stand tall and immovable, righteous and fearless. Colbert & Stewart have proven to be just two more Clinton Neoliberals.
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
True dat.
O.k. When is the next meeting for the revolution?
-FuturePassed on Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:22 p.m.
"Here we go again"
The people, united, will never be defeated.
Dow futures currently down 840 points!!!
Looks like Wall Street isn't very happy that their candidate is losing! They thought they had another 4 years. Oooops!!
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush
How the hell
can the markets fall when they aren't even OPEN right now?! I don't get it....
This shit is bananas.
Well, it looks like the Pied Piper was
able to charm more of the rats into voting for him. Hillary and the DNC have only themselves to blame. Between Hillary's ego and ambition and the smug superiority of the DNC, they set themselves up for this and really didn't see it coming. The working class has been forgotten about and ignored for too long, now I guess they have their revenge.
Unfortunately, things aren't going to work out like they hoped.
I'll say it again:
Worst Election. Ever.
"The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to those who think they've found it."
Terry Pratchett, Monstrous Regiment
Well, it looks like the Pied Piper was
able to charm more of the rats into voting for him. Hillary and the DNC have only themselves to blame. Between Hillary's ego and ambition and the smug superiority of the DNC, they set themselves up for this and really didn't see it coming. The working class has been forgotten about and ignored for too long, now I guess they have their revenge.
Unfortunately, things aren't going to work out like they hoped.
I'll say it again:
Worst Election. Ever.
"The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to those who think they've found it."
Terry Pratchett, Monstrous Regiment
PA
are these switching - I thought they gave PA to Clinton?
What about MI and WI?
Still too close!
PA and MI are less than a percentage point apart!
Nothing from Alaska yet, Adak votes until 9p AST (1am EST). Here is local newspaper: https://www.adn.com/
Hey, I can get in again!
So ... Trump ... uh ... yippee????
I've been watching TYT. Cenk has been on fire. "We're done with the DNC, we're going to fight!" He gave a great, passionate speech that HE SHOULD HAVE MADE A YEAR AGO.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
Poor Cenk
Loosing influence, is he?
Just like the Kossaks, he bought the Clinton train wreck, he freaking owns it. When the emails began coming out, did it never occur to him to admit he might have been wrong, maybe a bit naïve? He never thought to encourage people to vote third party so neither of these jerks could claim a mandate?
Mary Bennett
MSNBC is talking about how it appears voters wanted change
no mention of him-who-shall-not-be-named
Trump is showing a commanding Electoral College lead.
I am somewhat surprised by the map to be honest.
There are many states that I expected to go to Trump, but I didn't expect it to be that close in PA.
WI and MI, I thought had a strong chance of going Trump, but they are closer than I thought, whereas others that I thought would be close are actually much tighter than I suspected even if they did ultimately go to Trump or look to be going to Clinton that I thought would go to Trump (such as Nevada, and, while still early, possibly MN.) may end up going to Clinton.
But at the end of the day (For FSM's sake I hate that fucking phrase) people, we called it.
We wrote calmly, with facts and logic behind us and got called "dreamers".
We argued math, saying that their numbers were wrong, that they were based on inaccurate data and outdated models and got called subscribers to misogyny, idealists, people that wanted Unicorns and Ponies, or RWNJ trolls.
All we did was point out, "Look, you got two choices, one has a considerably better chance of defeating Trump than the other by every test."
We got mocked and shat upon.
So when they try to call you Naderites (They will) or worse, I am gonna what some would call a misogynistic thing here, but screw it. Grow a pair of balls.
Tell them that they are the ones that wouldn't listen to logic or reasoned argument.
Tell them that we told them time and time again that there is no way in hell you can shit upon a significant portion of your "Party" and then expect them to come back to the fold time and time again like some kind of frigging battered spouse.
Like or hate the left, the Democratic party has taken advantage of it's majority left leaning voters, as was shown time and time again in the last 6 election cycles.
Yet, even when they won a majority they lost, because they could have one a REAL majority if they would have embraced the policies that EVERY study or survey shows that over 70% of Americans support and said, "Screw the stuff we disagree with for now, lets work on the shit that we do."
If they REALLY wanted to insure that a Trump victory would never occur they wouldn't have fixed the Primary election against the best candidate to do so in favor of the one with the vagina (or whatever screwed up reason a so called "progressive" could come up with for supporting the likes of the Clinton's)
They own this.
Not us,
Be it a Trump victory or a narrow Clinton win with no mandate and endless investigations, the Clinton's, the DNC and their enablers own the next four years.
End of 10 Negra Modelo and countless "green power" fueled rant
(I am not gonna bother proof reading this because I doubt it would make a difference, so if it looks terrible I will blush and apologize in the morning. )
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
I just realized I spent quite some time writing this and turned
off TYT, etc. while doing so, so if what I said is outdated I apologize in advance, lol!
Off to catch up on what is going on in the real world an not just in my head now.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Fox called Wisconsin for Trump over an hour ago
They currently have it 215 Clinton, 254 Trump. Nevada called for Hillary.
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush
I'm not going to rant, just calmly tell them "You chose a
crappy candidate and a crappy way to campaign. You should have been able to hold the ridiculous orange combover to less than 10%. If you had, the third party vote wouldn't have mattered."
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I feel compelled to thank President Obama
he saved us from President Palin.
Where's Jill?
At long last it looks like we can send Bill & Hill off to the Big House, but where's Jill?
So much for the Green party. I really thought this might be their year, but nope.
If it helps any I voted for the Green candidate running against Chucky Schumer, just to toss them a bone. The Greens got a long way to go.
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Amy Goodman keeps talking about the markets
website for emigration to Canada has crashed...
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
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