Make Your Voice Count! My response to the League of Conservation Voters mailer
Submitted by mouselander on Tue, 11/01/2016 - 4:40pm
In the immortal words of General Anthony McAuliffe, when asked to surrender the Army's 101st Airborne Division to the Germans in December, 1944:
Nuts!
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And just to add an extra exclamation point:
Isn't it rather fascinating that the mailer implies it's okay to vote for Donald Trump because he is, quote unquote "viable"? Somehow the above image totally encapsulated for me the true moral bankruptcy of the Lesser Evil crowd. Apparently voting for Stalin or Hitler in preference to Jesus Christ would be defensible so long as the polls showed that only the first two had a realistic chance of winning.
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Nice find! As events are unfoldng today, the English language
will need a new word to compare Trump and Clinton and say the latter is better than the former and must be voted for.
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
Ask Lizzy what she thinks about it.
After all, they are Warren's tenth largest contributor.
Even chump change controls the puppets.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Please remind me how voting as someone else
wants/orders me to vote makes MY voice heard. Because it seems to me that voting as someone else wants/orders me to vote is the one way to ensure that my voice will not be heard.
More Duopoly reinforcement.
Of course they can't win if you and others don't vote for them.
Take a leap of faith sheeple!
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Only one person wins.
Every election, about half the people who vote vote for someone who loses. So, Hillary or Donald is going to lose. Don't take the chance that yougo against your conscience to vote for one of them and still end up voting for the loser!
In the simplistic world of lesser evilists...
your voice can only "count" if you employ your vote to help push a candidate over the finish line who is already close enough to that line for your input to potentially affect the outcome.
Eugene Debs and John Q. Adams had a slightly different take:
"It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it." -Eugene V. Debs
"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." -John Quincy Adams
To which I would add: Politics, just like everything else in life, is not static. What seems set in stone today may crumble into nothingness tomorrow. As Chris Hedges and others have pointed out, a few years ago the ruling Syriza party in Greece was hardly more than a blip on the electoral radar screen.
Were the people who voted for the Syriza candidates five or ten years ago wasting their votes? No, they were helping to lay the groundwork for a badly needed reordering of the political landscape. Even though the US system makes it much more difficult for non-establishment parties to gain a foothold, the experience of the Republican Party in the 1850's suggests that it is not impossible.
In the 1850's slavery was the overriding issue that ultimately proved the Whig Party's undoing. Today, there are basically three issues that rise to that level of urgency and importance. One, the ongoing and increasing threat of nuclear annihilation. Two, the obscene and growing levels of wealth disparity, and all the political and economic instability, suffering, exploitation and oppression that goes with it. And finally, the disastrous and irreversible harm being done to the natural environment, with all that implies regarding the future viability of human civilization.
If, in the best judgement of the League of Conservation Voters, now is not the time to take a bold and unequivocal stand against a prescription of more of the same, I can only wonder what further disasters must befall us before its directors are finally ready to get off the duopoly bandwagon.
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Thanks! There is never a guaranty of voting for the
winner, though, only of letting yourself be brainwashed, browbeaten and sheepled, or not.
Dont sign your kid up for little league
unless the team can win the Little League World Series, don't root for your home team unless they are winners. Don't start a company unless it will be bigger than its competitors. Don't play any game you cannot win on the first try. Don't advocate for any position that doesn't have majority public opinion. Don't take any job other than CEO, ever, even when just starting out. Don't paint unless you its for a one man (woman) show. Dont have children unless they will the the smartest, most athletic, and best looking of their peers. Don't invest in a stock that could possibly go down.
Why the fascination with having to be on the winning ticket? What prize are you given to concur with the majority of the country?
Voting is the only thing we all (at least theoretically ) have equally, and they want it to be based on popularity or more successful marketing and skullduggery?
Everyone vote your conscience and let the chips fall. Simple
Argumentum ad populum is a terrible campaign idea.
only go with winners
"Take me out to the Cub-bies....."
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
... and the Cubbies ARE winning tonite --
... and tomorrow, the beloved Chicago home team will play a one-game winner-take-all showdown against Donald Trump (no, wait -- the Cleveland Indians -- whew!! glad I cleared that up).
Anyway, Go Cubbies!! lovable losers that you are, you always show up to play within the lines, and by the rules --
When Cicero had finished speaking, the people said “How well he spoke”.
When Demosthenes had finished speaking, the people said “Let us march”.
I watched that game (6)!
I watched Game 6 myself! Cubbies forced there to be a Game 7! Go Cubbies!
Tomorrow's Game 7 promises to be a very Bumpy Night indeed!
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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
...Apparently voting for
And they've come as close as they can in the corporate party candidates to whom you refer.
Add a little spittle and Hitlery is a match - as she would be in global military/industrial hostile take-over effects.
Come to that, there was a certain Jewish ex-carpenter wishing to see the poor fed and the children educated running at one point, prior to his cruci-fiction via media and other propaganda now extending even into once-respected left-wing publications... that analogy is close enough to be damn scary.
http://www.globaljustice.org.uk/blog/2016/nov/1/bangladesh-brazil-how-do...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Ellen's citation leads to a simple conclusion:
From Bangladesh to Brazil
If you support either The Mad Bomber or the Hairball, you should not dare to call yourself an environmentalist.
Vote for the winner because
losers do not deserve to win, and if you vote for them, and they win, it is all on YOU, babe!
I just want to leave. If I win the lottery, you won't see me around!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
You wouldn't leave us behind, would you?
Where would you go?
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A beach home on Prince Edward Island.
From where I'd lead a revolution against the Crown. Or spend a lot of time on the beach.
Winters in in Montreal, Toronto and/or Quebec. Plus, travel, but travel can happen from anywhere.
If I win big, Vienna, with winters
spent in the bush of South Africa.
If the lotto is modest, Chile.
If my winnings are nominal, Panama,.
If I do not win, a HUD housing apartment in Shepherd, Texas.
Guess where having a dog or cat is almost impossible?
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
What? No Cthulhu?
I know how they will be "conserved". In his digestive tract!
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
They're so threatened by Jill they feel the need to publish
her image and name and attack her. That's excellent progress.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Agreed
Reminds me of that famous "Anonymous" quote (often wrongly attributed to Mahatma Gandhi):
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
Jill has now officially made it at least to Stage 2. Last time around, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have bothered.
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Way to look on the bright side! Good!
Usually, elections are close because so many people like each candidate better. This time, voters are having trouble deciding who they hate more.
Guess Hillary finally got her historic election.