Open Thread: What's the Message, Mr. Gardiner?

An open thread dedicated to discussing books, movies, and tv shows we love. And occasionally some politics.

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Never having hosted an Open Thread, I was unsure what kind of theme I wanted. On the one hand, Open Threads seem like a great venue for mental experimentation, creative brainstorming, and the like (for instance, "Everybody imagine one change they'd like to see in their town!"), but I also felt like the history we're living through is so heavy, dark, and dire that we could all use a bit of a break from trying to think our way through it.

So I thought I'd use this space to share some of my favorite books, movies, and tv shows. Hopefully there are some other detective fiction and science fiction fans out there--and of course, please feel free to chime in with your favorite books, movies, and tv shows, from whatever genre.

I'm not promising I'll NEVER talk about politics here. I think that we've been in the middle of a culture war for quite a while, a war which has recently gone to 11, as one of my favorite movies puts it.

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Not only do I care about that culture war because it often erupts in the pages of books I love, I also happen to think it matters very much on its own account. In many ways, the fight being waged in the world over the past 40 years is a battle over imagination and perception. If you look at the movies, tv shows, and books that have come out since World War II, sooner or later you'll likely encounter the evidence of that battle.

So, in that spirit, I'd like to start with one of my favorite authors, one of the four who stay on my bookshelves even when 90% of my books are packed in boxes and stored in closets, as they are now.

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There was no reason why I shouldn't have been sent for the beer that day, for the last ends of the Fairmont National Bank case had been gathered in the week before and there was nothing for me to do but errands, and Wolfe never hesitated about running me down to Murray Street for a can of shoe-polish if he happened to need one. But it was Fritz who was sent for the beer.

That's the beginning of the first Nero Wolfe novel, Fer-de-Lance, by Rex Stout.

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I loved Rex Stout before I had any idea he was on the board of the ACLU when it was a wet-behind-the-ears little political organization in the 20's, and well before I finally figured out--after years of reading him--that he was using his detective, Nero Wolfe, to teach his readers about the rule of law generally, and the fourth amendment specifically. Again and again, Stout's plots hang on the fact that policemen can't simply barge through Wolfe's front door, and must wait on a warrant--and he's such a good, and more importantly, such a fun writer that for years I didn't even notice that he was making a point.

Stout described himself in 1942 as a “pro-Labor, pro-New Deal, pro-Roosevelt left liberal”. He helped to found Vanguard Press, for the purpose of republishing leftist classics that couldn't get published elsewhere. He's a type that one doesn't see much anymore: imbued with a hatred of tyranny in all its forms, equally condemnatory of both fascism and communism, filled with an enviable, innocent belief that America stands against all that bullying nonsense, yet honest enough to say, through his detective, "If I were a black man in America, I'd have been dead, or in prison, long ago." A man he worked with in British Intelligence during World War II called him "The nicest angry man I've ever known."

His association with the ACLU and a magazine called The Masses brought him the unwelcome attention of the House Committee on Un-American Activities, who accused him of being a Communist. He famously replied to HUAC chairman Martin Dies, “I hate Communists as much as you do, Martin, but there’s one difference between us. I know what a Communist is, and you don’t.” He also had a bit of an ongoing tiff with J Edgar Hoover, who put him on some lists of undesirables; Stout retaliated by writing The Doorbell Rang, in which Nero Wolfe goes up against the FBI itself.

It's impossible for me to pick a favorite Nero Wolf novel. My brain brings up favorite scenes: Archie and Wolfe in Tito's Yugoslavia, looking for the murderer of Wolfe's best friend and realizing, when they find him, they can't simply kill him:

If personal vengeance were the only factor I could, as you suggested, go and stick a knife in him and finish it, but that would be accepting the intolerable doctrine that man's sole responsibility is to his ego. That was the doctrine of Hitler, as it is now of Malenkov and Tito and Franco and Senator McCarthy; masquerading as a basis of freedom, it is the oldest and toughest of the enemies of freedom. I reject it and contemn it. (Stout, The Black Mountain)

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Wolfe finally finding the limits of his respect for the law during a meat shortage:

It was smack in the middle of the Great Meat Shortage, when milllions of pigs and steers, much to the regret of the growers and slaughterers, had sneaked off and hid in order to sell their lives dear, and to Nero Wolfe a meal without meat was an insult. His temper had got so bad that I had offered to let him eat me, and it would be best to skip his retort...

"I am on the whole a respectable and virtuous citizen, but like everyone else I have my smudges. Where is some meat?"
"Oh." Perrit, one of the two biggest gangsters in New York, sounded chilly. "Maybe I've got you lined up wrong. You want a slice of the meat racket?"
"No. I want slices of beef and pork. I want some meat to eat. Lamb. Veal."
So that was it. I gazed at my boss in bitter disgust. He had lost all sense of proportion. For the sake of making a wild grab for a rib roast, he had left his chair, walked clear to the front room, opened a window, and invited the most deadly specimen betwen the Battery and Yonkers into his house.
(Stout, "Before I Die")

And, of course, the end of The Doorbell Rang, in which Stout gets, at the least, literary vengeance upon J Edgar Hoover (guess how).

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I hope if you've never heard of Rex Stout or Nero Wolfe, that I've piqued your interest enough to look him up at the library. His books are a hell of a lot of fun, and they're also on my side of the battle lines.

Please feel free to bring up your own favorites!

EDIT: This week I am away from Monday-Wednesday on vacation with my family, so I won't be here to respond to your comments on Wolfe or Stout, but I hope you will make them nonetheless, because I'd love to see what you all have to say when I get back! There's so much to tell about Stout I might even do a second installment, if people are interested (he was accused at one point of starting a riot).

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Raggedy Ann's picture

I hope you enjoyed your vacation. Stout sounds like a good read - the adventures of Wolfe, intriguing. I love mysteries and puzzles. Smile

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

I am sure she will enjoy all of the comments when she gets back - next week I think.

If you like mysteries, you will enjoy the Nero Wolfe series. Nero Wolfe is big and fat, cerebral, and never leaves house. Archie is his dashing tough guy secretary and legs. Here is a link to a list of Rex Stout books. My favorites are the Nero Wolfe series.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

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and other Sherlock Holmes fans that Nero Wolfe is the extramarital(?) son of Holmes and Irene Adler. Smile

One of the "clues" often cited is his strong physical and behavioral resemblance to Sherlock's brother Mycroft.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

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I was commenting based on her reading it when she returned. Blush

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

A couple of years ago I decided to reread the authors I like best and not bother with new works - the only exceptions being authors I missed over the years - and have winnowed the list down to: Gogol; Chekhov; Proust; Joyce; Beckett; Kerouac; Gaddis; Pynchon; and Corso. (I do read books on the political economy like This Changes Everything and even[gulp] denser books.)

I also reread some works that I like but not the whole output of an author: The Fan Man by Kotzwinkle and some of Ginsberg and McClure and Snyder would be examples.

I like to read some biographical/analytical works of musicians I admire like Thelonious Monk, Dizzy Gillespie, Mark E Smith(The Fall) and Ray Davies(The Kinks) and Captain Beefheart.

As to movies, I don't think there's anything more entertaining than Spinal Tap although I also like Best in Show; Mighty Wind; and Waiting for Guffman also by Christopher Guest. Other movies I'll watch many times are Pull My Diasy(Kerouac & Frank); Repo Man; Buckeroo Banzai and Jabberwocky; and many films by both Eric Rohmer and Francois Truffaut.

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"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"

Cachola's picture

A few years ago, six to be exact, out of the blue I developed the certainty that I only had eleven years left to live. (If I were religious I would say it was a vision but I am not so let's say some neurons misfired, or something.) Since I want to pack the most enjoyment in those few years I deliberated, with my sons, on what to do. The most important decision was that I would spend all the time reading (and buying books) with no guilt whatsoever. No chores, exercise, etc if I didn't feel like it. Smile

Then I started obsessing with my reading list. My sons are very patient and understanding but finally one told me, you know, there will not be a test at the end so you can decide as you go along.

Anyway, a lot of background to say how I came to the conclusion that I did not have time to re-read books, with a few exceptions, Garcia Marquez being one. Wink

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Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.

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And recommend at least some regular physical activity of some sort, if not exercise, to make it more likely you'll outlive your predictions.

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Why wrong? I will have to die sooner or later. There is no getting around that and I don't necessarily want a very long life. Also, it's not like all I do is read. The difference is that now I don't have to feel guilty if there is a sinkful of dishes and I want to read. Or if it's beautiful outside but all I was is to curl up with a good book. Before I would feel guilty. Now it's Hello, sunshine, you look great but I will enjoy you from my couch.

As for the exercise, I was always in perfect health, I am not exaggerating. Perfect. I did have a little bit of extra weight and, following conventional wisdom as to what's healthy, on Spring 2015 started exercising regularly. Nothing too strenous, just walking. My diet has always been very good but at the same time I started walking for exercise, I became very portion conscious. (Living in NYC and not having driven since 1979 I have always walked a lot but at a leisurely-ish pace.) Result: by September 2015 I had lost 35 pounds. I was so proud of myself!! I went to my annual fullly expecting a medal from my doctor.

And that's when I found out I had elevated glucose levels, making me prediabetic. But wait, there's more!!! I had atrial fibrillation.

Fast forward a year, gained all the weight back. Glucose levels back to normal, not even close to being prediabetic. Still have a fib, feel like shit half the time due to med side efects. Wish I had never even started meds because in my longish life I had done very well not paying attention to doctors.

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But if it allows you to reorder your priorities, that's a good thing. You're right, you may be one of the few people for whom exercise doesn't work!

If I were in your position, I would research afib meds on the Internet and see if there are alternatives with fewer side effects. Then consult a cardiologist unaffiliated with the first doctor for a second opinion on the best treatment(s). In hopes of feeling better more often.

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enhydra lutris's picture

T-Shirt, with their logo and motto on the front and "Laugh while you can, monkey boy!" on the back.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

writer[s] decided to make the aliens identifiable because they all applied for Social Security cards the same day!

"Yeah, the time of monkey boy laughter is drawing to a close"....duckpin Smallberries

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"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"

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Too many roll over. But I did get to see a photo, asking for ID, of a large snapping turtle head skeleton that had come ashore. Much discussion ensued, someone saying that was their first husband. Also Vatican announced cremation was fine, but not ash scattering or jewelry-making. Perfect response from one was that they wanted their ashes scattered in St Peter's Square, with boombox accompaniment of Highway to Hell. Chuckle.

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is a favorite of mine.. My favorite Peter Sellers film.

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"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage

Had to go back and apologize to so many friends who said "you'll love Louise Penny" and I always said "sounds too schmaltzy." Wrong. Just finished her most recent A Great Reckoning. Good reading. Unique mysteries. Interesting history of Canada. GENTLE, honest, kind characters. Started with the first book, now, am part of a family I truly respect, laugh with, admire, and cry a little when finish the latest book. Always wish I knew more people like Ruth, and love the title of her book of poetry: FINE. ( I won't give it away.) Happy reading.

Also late to the game, now reading The Boys in the Boat. Wonderful. Absorbing. Really makes me wish I was born in an earlier generation.

What election?

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I own all of the Agatha Christie, Nero Wolfe, and a few other series. I read and reread them all of the time. I got a Kindle, and I am in the process of getting them collected to it.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

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My dog ate the second, a gift from my daughter to allow me to give back to her the first Kindle which I bought for her. Does that make sense? Dog cracked the screen and chewed the plastic. I still have that as a dummy for future dog attacks.

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My dearly departed kitty loved my Kindles. I too had an old one he could "read" so he would stop insterting himself between me and my book.

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Got an email that I have an A/R, took me a moment of mystification to translate that. But I have sent cheques $additional $1500 CDN for new A/R. The news is that the process server finally contacted my effing contractor (after latter avoid two earlier attempts) and he has until Halloween to reply. This shit has been going on since April. An albatross. That might have been my US escape path. No Sheetrock inside. No water or septic connections.

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Attic/Roof? Airconditioner/Refrigeration? Asphalt/Roadway?

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That would be accounts, receivable. Thus my momentary pause also in translation. But I have sent them the second $1500 for a second retainer, maybe the turtle died swimming the River? There has been a Canada Post work action for months now...

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I'm a hockey fan, that's why. Smile

And I"m not too shabby with their anthem either. Eh.

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"Love One Another" ~ George Harrison

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Oh, Caaanaadaa, our home and native land.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Dorothy Sayers. My favorite is Gaudy Night.
Love all British mysteries. P.D. James, mostly the earlier ones.
And what I call the "gentle" books: Barbara Pym, Penelope Fitzgerald, Jane Gardam.

All the Iris Murdock novels. When someone asks me who is my favorite author, I always say, "you mean not counting, George Eliot, Jane Austen, Virginia Woolf, and Vita Sackville-West ."

If there are other lovers of British authors, I hope you've read 84 Charing Cross Road. A real treasure.

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...(Why it doesn't matter which puppet is elected):

The Path to Total Dictatorship: America's Shadow Government and Its Silent Coup

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Christine.MI's picture

Police have technology to scan our pockets and contents of my soccer mom van?!? Where's the big middle finger magnetic decal that I can put on my doors? Gawd, what a world we live in...

Thanks, JtC, for all you do here. What you do here is vitally important, as do the essayists, and it is an oasis of truth and comfort, at least for me.

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the best advice I can give is, if you're not prepared, get prepared.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

can't afford to get ready. We're stuck putting our heads between our knees to kiss our ass goodbye.

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There is no such thing as TMI. It can always be held in reserve for extortion.

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if you are ready and waiting and not surprised.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

I lived in Washington DC for almost 20 years, and every time I heard something along these same lines, I tried to ignore it, thinking it just must be CT. I was so, so, so wrong, and it took me years to realize it. Just couldn't get myself to accept it was that bad.
Now I know it's worse. Reading all the Wikileaks confirming what the Clintons and their minions had been doing for years. The money and power accumulated, and used to destroy anyone and anything in their way, tragic for us and even worse for the rest of the world.
Not sure how we can prepare for this.

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as is the amount of preparedness. The first step is awareness. Prepare as you perceive the truth, for your children and grand children.

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for entry to my 900' driveway, Post is in plus hinges. Gave up on the underground alarm system, too many thunderstorms.

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I got my ass handed to me by the NakedCap mod for saying it in a comment once. Oh well, NakedCap is excellent in most other respects, so I forgive the mod for being snow blind to its existence.

Good article JtC.

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Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.

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Favorite book of all time. Worth seeking out- although long out of print, there are PDFs floating around out there.

Written in 1975, it features eerily accurate predictions of the Web, ubiquitous computing, reality TV, and the very real societal issues of pervasive data mining. Not to mention that it is a damned fine read on its own. I liked "The Sheep Look Up" and "Stand on Zanzibar", but this gem was his masterwork. It is sad that it didn't get the recognition it deserved...

And as long as we're at it, a little slice of my favorite movie. I'd still like to know who the uncredited drummer hidden behind that Simmons kit (with the Uzi in the small of his back!) was...

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"INdepth INdependent INmediate INterface" between the reader and "the happening world." cough goog cough

Thanks for the memories. Prescient, yeah that's the word describes Stand on Zanzibar for me. I read it while going though my aunt and uncle's estate in Manhattan, 1988. Surreal, it was on their shelf I still have it. Here's a review: https://www.sfsite.com/04b/sz79.htm

[...] The core of the novel focuses on NYC apartment mates Norman House and Donald Hogan. Like everyone else in this world, although they share living quarters, and sometimes even girlfriends, they really don't know each other. [...]

Brunner sets the story in motion with two seemingly unconnected discoveries. The first is the change of power in the tiny African country of Beninia, (pop. 900,000) where refugees of civil war from three neighbouring countries have settled, all members of tribes hostile to one another -- yet Beninia has known nothing but peace since it was granted independence from British colonial rule. The credit for this has gone to Beninia's president, Zadkiel F. Obomi. But once he retires, who will lead and protect this tiny country with no war, but also no literacy, industry, or technology?

Elihu Masters, the US Ambassador to Beninia as well as Obomi's friend, approaches the board of General Technics with an offer. If GT will help educate the population and build the needed infrastructure, Beninia will allow them sole rights to exploit the vast, untouched mineral and oil reserves offshore for a period of time. Before he knows it, Norman is in Beninia, where murder is practically unknown; where the closest word the language has for anger means "insanity."

But then the second discovery is announced. In a crowded US where reproductive privilege is offered only to those with a clean genotype, babies are a rare and jealously hoarded luxury. But now the Yatakang government announces that famous geneticist Dr. Sugaiguntung has invented a way for everyone, even those with the most undesirable genes, to have perfect children. US citizens being the privileged souls they are, of course they want to know 1) When can we get access to this technology? And 2) Why didn't the US discover it first?
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LOL, yep uh-huh.

Thanks

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exactly what it is.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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any idea about his politics! That's excellent, I'll enjoy him even more next time!

I like escapist entertainment. Probably one of the best is Lincoln Child's Lethal Velocity. Set in the ideal theme park, Utopia, where everything starts to go very wrong.

I also like John Grisham's Gray Mountain because it goes beyond good escapist entertainment into actual real issues (and is set nearby in coal country).

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Harry Shearer sues Vivendi over Spinal Tap profits

Harry Shearer is taking legal action against entertainment group Vivendi, claiming it has denied him and others profits from 1984's This is Spinal Tap.

Shearer alleges that Vivendi, which acquired the film in 1989, engaged in fraud to hide revenues.

The Simpsons actor is seeking $125m (£102m) in compensatory and punitive damages.

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and for the really nice essay that brought us to him, CStS. I love the periods of radical socialism/anarchism and workers rights movements, from the 1870's to 1930's. Will definitely look for Stout next time I'm out.

How I come to discover then read authors is a little like how I exposed myself to music at a young age. I was omnivorous for discovery, insatiable with curiosity. Many times it was reading about the influences of the authors (as in music). And always talking with other obsessed, passionate fans. With authors specifically if I am introduced in the context of his or her writing to another I make a mental note and look into it on a cursory level. If the name then appears again while I'm reading elsewhere I know it is someone I need to investigate and plunge in, sometimes to the exclusion of most else for a period. Happens all the time.

There are some great, inexpensive used books stores in Bklyn that I treasure and can hardly go into without leaving with an armful, sometimes titles I really that I add to the small pile of extras to be given to friends (anybody else do that?). Fairly recently we invested in a shelving system that screws right in the wall, so all the wall space can be used. Even so, the shelves are bulging.

Of course then theres also the digital format, where through the iTunes store and for free are many great old titles that have gone into the public domain. So onto my iPad I've downloaded tons of Charles Dickens, Mark Twain, Thoreau, Victor Hugo, Knut Hamsun, Walt Whitman, Oscar Wilde, Tolstoy, Chekov, Frederick Douglass, Thomas Carlyle, etc. I mostly only use this device to read in bed, especially now that Ibooks has updated the program, so that if you're reading in the dark the backlighting will adjust to an all black screen with white typeset, which gives off much less light.

At the moment in that format one of the handful of books I'm currently reading is by Herbert Spencer from the 1850's on the education system and the radical departures he was introducing against rote learning (even in that day!) and instead advising a more organic approach that dignifies and encourages a child's own intuitive curiosities, as well as stressing an integration with nature and science. I'm cross-referencing that with Pedagogy of the Oppressed by Paolo Friere. Got a baby coming up on his first birthday and have great misgivings about the American public school system, which my preconceptions about are already deep in the negative.

As I sit on the floor and type, the contents of the stack of books closest to me now are these: "The New Class Society: Goodby American Dream?" by Wysong, Petrucci and Wright (which I got a sociology conference I attended by way of invitation by two professor friends); "Catch-22," the Christopher Hitchens memoir, the aforementioned Freire book, "The Power Elite" by C. Wright Mills (which led to a great conversation on a flight a few weeks ago with a like-minded radical psychologist who taught at a co-operative school in San Fransisco in the 70's); "Upside Down" by Eduardo Galeano (who I was introduced to by Democracy Now in a tribute to his life); and "Flyboy" by Greg Tate.

Thanks for the thread!

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THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"

- Kurt Vonnegut

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So.

If you are speaking extra special loudly about politics or such in a long ass line into a sports arena and you are seemingly enjoying the fact that you are making others uneasy with your scare rhetoric and how men are going to be a minority, don't act all surprised when I turn around and tell ya to either "back up your claims or shut the fuck up".

That is all.

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Did I miss the meet up? I finally got the flu slash sinus cold muck. I had to call in and such. I haven't left Portland. Smile

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Sorry you got the yuckies. I hope you'll feel better soon.

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That might be tough. Each kid has plans and activities and work schedules.

We are tripping into Retail Hell season. Gawd I hate this time of year in many ways. I love Fall... HATE the retail shit that goes with it.

Black Friday peeps... I just want to punch them in the greedy gut. Thanksgiving is now so mucked up due to retail scheds in this house due to Black Friday scheduling.

I'll see what I can do up to the minute as I'd love to see folks.

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and Kafka.

Somehow both seem more and more relevant these days.

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"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott

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How there are very few authors I will re-read, Kafka is one. Borges is fine, but I am more interesredcin the man himself. Which brings me to a book I re-read often but in snippets: Seven Voices by Rita Guibert. "In-depth and personal interviews by Rita Guibert of Pablo Neruda, Jorge Luis Borges, Miguel Angel Asturias, Octavio Paz, Julio Cortázar, Gabriel García Márquez and Guillermo Cabrera Infante. The Nobel Prize in Literature was awarded to Pablo Neruda in 1971, Miguel Angel Asturias in 1967, Octavio Paz in 1990 and Gabriel García Márquez in 1982." Amazon link just for info, theyvare on a time out right now.
https://www.amazon.com/Seven-Voices-Rita-Guibert-ebook/dp/B0104EOHSM/ref...

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last one being The Mother Hunt. Somehow that one escaped me until a few months ago. I started reading them in junior high and it took me until recently to be able to say that I had read all of them. I've read many of them than once. For me the writing still holds up and Archie's wise cracks never get stale. And happily I have a attic, basement, and a corner of my bedroom, full of books. I love books. I love to hold a book in my hand and read it. Of all my personal possessions my books are what I love most.

Rex Stout had the perfect touch of humor running through his murders. That's what sets him apart from everyone else. Archie was the perfect wise guy and Fritz Brenner is the perfect foil. I had a copy of Too Many Cooks that had recipes for the dishes that were served to the dinner guests. And I read one time that 'fans of Nero Wolfe are the detective fiction equivalent to Trekkies. There also is the Nero Wolfe Cookbook by Rex Stout which can be downloaded online.

I got into mysteries with Poe. (That's how I learned to do cryptograms - from The Gold Bug.) Next Sherlock Holmes (I am quite a Holmes fanatic) and after that the great Agatha Christie. Erle Stanley Gardner's Perry Mason books are wonderful but they contain very little humor and unlike Stout, the solutions to his crimes are always due to some break in the case (usually thanks to Paul Drake) whereas Stout always put the clues to solve the mystery in his stories, you just had to think (I rarely guessed who the killer was, I almost always had to wait for the big reveal.)

This has been a really pleasant essay. I was crabby before I read it (had to go to traffic court with my son) but this pleasant stroll down memory lane discussing Rex Stout makes me want to go upstairs and dig around in my books and find some Nero Wolfe/Archie Goodwin to read. Thanks!

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Nice OT. As I said, Nero Wolfe series is one of my favorites.

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enhydra lutris's picture

history of binge reading, from subjects, like exploration & explorers, to authors, to characters, including Nero Wolfe. For years now, however, I haven't even been able to keep up with my magazines, which tend to be on the heavy side, like Scientific American and such.

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Love it! She solved a King's (British) death.

Gall bladder has never quieted down, knife pains. Making rice. And calling in a RX to be re-ordered by doctor. Snow by midnight. Sigh.

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wrong extension. A photo of a Petri dish with yellow bacterial colonies: More culture than most humans. Close your eyes and imagine.

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