Mystery swirls around Assange’s status at Ecuadorean Embassy
Submitted by ZimInSeattle on Tue, 10/18/2016 - 8:54am
Perhaps the Clinton Crime Family (CCF) has managed to borrow some polonium from Putin and slipped it into Assange's tea.
Midway through releasing a series of damaging disclosures about U.S. presidential contender Hillary Clinton, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange says his hosts at the Ecuadorean Embassy in London abruptly cut him off from the internet. The news adds another layer of intrigue to an extraordinary campaign.
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Looks like added pressure on the government of Ecuador
form our peace-loving State Department.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
Wikileaks still functioning
Wikileaks Releases Another 1,894 Podesta Emails In Part 11 Of Data Dump; Total Is Now 17,150
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-18/wikileaks-releases-another-1894...
The daily dump continues. In the now traditional daily routine, one which forces the Clinton campaign to resort to ever more stark sexual scandals involving Trump to provide a media distraction, moments ago Wikileaks released yet another 1,894 emails in Part 11 of its ongoing Podesta Email dump, which brings the total number of released emails to 17,150.
Decent background piece from the Christian Science Monitor
http://www.csmonitor.com/Technology/2016/1017/Julian-Assange-s-internet-...
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Yes, he has not been silenced.
Also, posted this morning:
Good.
Both Assange, and apparently Ecuador, not backing down.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
As if FARQ has anything remotely to do with
Hellery's corruption revealed in the emails. Kerry is such an idiot. He couldn't negotiate a peace deal with Gandhi.
Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.
Yeah, but it sounds Officially Official
and like serious and risky and allathat, because Kerry said so!
Gah, he's such a toady. It's a good thing for him that he married up, it must save his ass regularly...
To coin a phrase:
You can't stop the signal.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
One nice excerpt:
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
I have come to the conclusion that Assange is pro-Trump
It's the only rational explanation for why he waited until it was much too late to affect the Democratic primary. If he really, really wanted to roadblock La Strega in every possible way, he would have started the leaking process back in March.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
That's the same accusation that keeps being levelled
at me...that I am pro-Trump, because I point out bad things about Hillary.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
It's the timing factor. We waited and waited and waited
for even the tiniest little dribble to come out of Wikileaks, but by the time the dribbling started, the primaries were effectively OVER.
What did Assange really want - to let La Strega be Selected as the Dim candidate and then to shame her before the world? Very, very dangerous game with an extremely high probability of backfiring (including on him).
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
The problem with that is that
The problem with that is that WikiLeaks does push things through a vetting process internally. So it's entirely plausible that the delays were just that - vetting delays. There are also technical aspects of processing large volumes of content into a web database. So there are alternative explanations for not releasing them sooner. Though we don't know at all what is true since, for good reasons, Wikileaks largely operates in secret.
It may be that.
Timing was certainly part of it. You and I and the rest here were totally involved during the Primaries, but the vast majority of Americans just ignored that whole drama. Anything he released then would be in the category of, "oh, that...we heard all about that months ago," by now. Forgotten and ignored. He always kept saying he would release closer to the election...and there are more people paying attention.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
A lot of these emails...
are dated late in the primary season. It's not clear when Wikileaks got them, but it's a safe bet it was probably nearer to the end of Bernie's run.
Also, Assange always makes a point of saying how carefully they vet the authenticity of docs before releasing, while the sheer volume of stuff suggests they had quite a job on their hands.
So I don't think this is a matter of Assange favoring Trump over Bernie. Just that he favors anybody over Hillary.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
I suppose Assange might assume
that Hillary poses a greater threat to his person and project than Trump does. It would not be illogical for him to assume that.
native
As a lifelong Democrat
I will say that Hillary is a much greater existential threat than is Trump. However, I'll vote for neither of them.
He has revelatory documents on Hillary but not Trump
With the DNC and the media going after Trump already, there would be nothing that Wikileaks could add to any effect.
And then there is this:
http://www.inquisitr.com/3602103/why-are-we-still-talking-about-trump-li...
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
Does Caitlin Johnstone have a blog somewhere?
Hers is some of the best commentary on this election I have seen, but the only time I can ever read it is when people here link to her articles. Google search didn't help at all...hm. Wonder why that is.
Mary Bennett
I found this:
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
Nutz.
Facebook hates me. So does Paypal, but that is another story
I will ask my grandbaby, the youngest person I know, to explain twitter..
Mary Bennett
Twitter
is very useful for following the latest news. Often news and article links are posted on Twitter before they appear anywhere else. Who decide to follow will dictate what you see in your feed.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
I follow wkikleaks
I just joined Twitter last week. It was easy signing up.. I don't think I'll tweet but it's a good way to find breaking news that real news. The weirdest thing is the mix of trump supporters and lefties. Strange bedfellows that's for sure.
Bisbonian,
thank you for that research. This election, the two commentators who consistently make the most sense to me are Glen Ford at the Black Agenda Report and Ms. Johnstone.
Mary Bennett
I agree, have for a long time.
If Caitlin is actually a woman, that makes her, with me, one of the comparatively rare female wrestling fans!
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Sure didn't I know loads of female wrestling fans in NC!
Yer far from alone.
That's great! Though I guess at this point I'm more of a
former fan. I'm done w/Vince, at this point.
That Edward Snowden thing he did as part of Alexander Rusev's heel push (courtesy of Lana, his manager) was unforgivable.
Of course, if I'd been watching during the "Lyta got raped by Kane but then fell in love with him later b/c he had impregnated her" storyline, Vince would have lost me already. I don't expect pro wrestling to not be sexist, but there's a couple places I just don't want to go--and that's one of them.
The Edward Snowden thing was absolutely a bridge too far.
So I still love wrestling, but I'm too pissed at the WWE to watch.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Wrestling was never my thing but knowing people
that I really liked who enjoyed it gave me a perspective on it I never had before.
Humans do have that tendency to humanise things.
Oh, I don't know
while I agree with your theory--obviously the man isn't a Sanders fan, for example--but he could be taking into consideration the way-too-short attention span of many people in this country. Despite so many protestations before and after, a lot of people truly do not Remember in November. I don't think any of that makes him a Trump fan at all--I've long thought he's had it in for her personally, and his waiting until the GE makes sense if his only goal is to stop voters from voting for her.
I have come to *almost* the same conclusion, but...
it could rather just be that the SOURCE for his dumps is PRO TRUMP, and has been timing his feeding stuff to Assange to help Trump, but it is without a doubt clear that if the timing had been different, it might could have helped Bernie, and I say "might" because the DNC could still have just rigged the primary elections anyway, and also still rigged the convention with the super delegates anyway, and also still threatened Bernie (which I have to assume they did) anyway, to get Bernie to endorse Hillary. So, without the money, power, influence and support that Trump wields, I am not sure Hillary can be stopped or that they can ensure an honest election, and to be honest, even with Trump's money, power, influence, and support, I am still not sure that Hillary can be stopped. I pray that she can be stopped and that they do, I've been praying for this every day.
“I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought it was hell.”
― Harry Truman
Is there any information on
what the sources are?
Didn't Guccifer hack the DNC and turn the data over to Wikileaks?
Other stuff sounds governmental - was the state dept hacked and if so, when? I'd love to see what Hillary's unsecured servers contain. It also seems possible the FBI was hacked, since the releases seem to exonerate them from complicity with state.
Wiki says "multiple sources" reveal that Kerry pressured Ecuador.
Assange NEVER reveals his sources, so that would be a
Assange NEVER reveals his sources, so that would be a resounding categorical no.
“I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought it was hell.”
― Harry Truman
She has
She has to be - all of this corporate/military take-over has to be stopped now.
Bending to and thereby supporting blind, mindless nationalism/'patriotism' in a 'my country, right or very, very horribly wrong' NewThink demanded is how the Nazis indoctrinated the young and damn near took over the world - and this is what's happening again, being enforced against children protesting the state-authorized murder of their own targeted group and their parents, as though peaceful protest is a crime for any children who happen to be Black and for the parents who raised them to be moral and courageous human beings.
German citizens of the time have been much criticized for thinking that this couldn't really happen to their democracy and for failing to fight for it - and Americans have the advantage of having read of the blueprint currently being re-enacted in their own country.
I need to stop checking my inbox before going to bed... sickened, swearing and sure to be sleepless again...
Please, anyone seeing this, sign if you haven't yet?
(This part of the link seems to work without leading to the one in my inbox. I hope.)
http://act.colorofchange.org/sign/black-children-punished-anthem-protests/
My comment on this petition:
This is the one of the most disgusting displays of fascism within America I've seem today, and there's waaaay too much competition. Change the targeted and abused group to 'Jewish' and the country name to Nazi Germany and see what this is!
Something that must be protested and eradicated now at every level.
Edited because I managed to click 'block-quotes' instead of 'bold' on a word, and FSM knows what else I've missed; I certainly don't... Apparently I lost a space between words as well; lucky I'm not including the verbal swearing as there was little space left between words there. And missed a couple of words. I will now go quietly to bed to hit my pillow. Repeatedly.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Trump publishes his own Damaging Leaks
every time he logs onto The Tweeter. No need for wikileaks to publish anything further.
Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.
The more they try to shut him up.
The more corrupt they look.
Party loyalty is one thing, but holding longstanding international negotiations (like FARC) hostage to the Hillary campaign's fortunes simply feeds the narrative that the Dems place their own selfish needs ahead of those of the nation.
It is a longstanding maxim the US politics is supposed to end at the shores. Of course it isn't often true, but to see that convenient fiction so terribly abused is not very helpful in persuading those who still believe in it to vote for Hillary.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
You're pretty good at getting right to the point
...for a damned dirty ape.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
"dirty ape!"- Don't forget that King Kong died for your sins
: )
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
Been a long time since I last heard that one :-)
It used to be a popular science fiction convention button slogan.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Yep!
Underneath that smelly, gruff exterior and behind that cigar smoking, banana eating grin there's a really sharp cookie in there!!
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush
Cheers Guys!
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Good Srecko Horvat article at counterpunch.
The whole article is here: http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/10/18/the-cyber-war-on-wikileaks/
Here's another good point from the article (I highlighted in bold):
Well apparently he's also a pedophile now
I'm not going to link it, but the old site is now piling on, calling Aassange a pedophile and claiming he was going for 8 year olds.
Kos and his basket of deplorables over there have truly become disgusting. Those are Democrats. That's what the party is now. Gross. They're not even Republican-lite. They are Republicans.
it's worse
Actually, they're worse.
Republicans don't claim to be progressives and represent the interests of the little guy. When they act in a predictably neocon/neolib manner, they're honestly functioning as advertised. When today's "Democrats" (completely mislabeled as they're no democrats!) do the same and worse, they're lying traitors. And Mr. Moulitsas doesn't care. He's got his already.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Little Napoleon does NOT deserve any respect
enough to refer to him as Mister anything. He's a suckup and a liar and that's as polite as I can muster...
A distillation of everything I despise
About the Democratic party.
What we see there isn't election season over-zealousness, it's the stink of a corpse. The sooner the corpse is buried, the better.
“If there is no justice for the people, may there be no peace for the government.”
the corpse
Suitable burial siting for that radioactive, festering you-know-what is an issue.
Is WIPP accepting private-sector wastes yet? And we'll need a few yards of concrete, too.
And some waterproofing materials.
And a stake.
/snark?
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
What the hell people?!?!?!
What the hell people?!?!?!
Mr. Podesta's emails are private communications. They don't belong in the public domain. People rooting this on should be ashamed. Get it together.
What am I doing here?
I am so ashamed
I am posting every lie, every unethical breach of trust with the public, every criminal act perpetrated by the Clintons and their sycophantic surrogates that #WikiLeaks has EXPOSED on every social media platform where I have a large following.
My only regret is that I can't THANK Julian Assange personally for his dedicated work in the interest of every fucking person affected by the mendacious propaganda put out there courtesy of TPTB.
Thanks for your "input". It's been duly noted.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
For real?
These people deserve no privacy. They forfeited their right to privacy when they appointed themselves the masters of the universe and conspired to fuck over the common man.
I hope they all burn.
Everyone deserves privacy. Or
Everyone deserves privacy. Or are the words "civil liberties" only words to you? Try to tamp down your facist instincts a little.
What am I doing here?
You can't even spell "fascist" correctly, stronz'
And if it weren't for Wikileaks et al, we would be in a far bigger world of hurt. You babble about "civil liberties" - how much "civil liberty" do you think you would have if The Powers That Be were completely free to ride roughshod over you and nobody had any way of knowing about it?
If She hadn't been so terminally STUPID as to store her emails on an unsecured private server, they couldn't have been copied and disseminated (which is not the same thing as "stolen", so shove that noise too).
Go. reread. Jefferson. Slowly.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Don't bother...
he's gone. Two comments, insults in both, buh-bye.
I'm quite familiar with this user from over yonder and was just waiting for him to show himself and to give me a reason. There are a few more sleepers on the list.
Everyone deserves privacy?
Do terrorists deserve privacy?
Do criminals deserve privacy?
Do politicians and political bodies, funded with tax dollars, deserve privacy?
Do political parties, who receive funds paid for with your tax dollars, deserve privacy?
Are you opposed to sunshine laws?
Advocating the cover up of government corruption under the auspices of civil liberties is about as asinine as defending Citizen's United on free speech grounds.
Nice try.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Do the letters C, T, & R mean
Do the letters C, T, & R mean anything to you?
It's called "journalism."
I'm not surprised you don't recognize it.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver