Could this cause panic in the Hillary Campaign?
Kelly Ayotte, a senator in New Hampshire locked in a tough re-election battle, said in a statement posted to Twitter that as “a mom and an American” she “cannot and will not support a candidate for president who brags about degrading and assaulting women”. She would, she said, write Indiana governor Mike Pence’s name on the ballot.
Ben Sasse, a freshman senator from Nebraska and a leading Trump critic, tweeted: “Character matters. [Donald Trump] is obviously not going to win. But he can still make an honorable move: step aside & let Mike Pence try.”
Idaho senator Mike Crapo said Trump’s “pattern of behavior” had left him no choice but to follow suit.
Conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt, a longtime and influential supporter of Trump, said: “For the benefit of the country, the party and his family, and for his own good, [Donald Trump] should withdraw. More and worse oppo coming.”
Mike Pence, be interesting if the hair has a total meltdown in the debate tomorrow, and from evidence from the last few days that is more than possible. Would he stand aside, even less likely, but for once he was forced to apologize so you never know.
Be interesting to see what the reaction would be, Pence is also pretty toxic but very much of the Party.
Just a thought.
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I don't see what the problem is here.
Trump's private life is private.
It's no different from what JFK did.
Women who know him vouch for him.
The women were stalking him!
the women were looney toons!
I'm sure you all remember these as defenses of Bill Clinton by his wife, his White House (remember all his female cabinet secretaries lining up in the White House lawn to defend him?), and dems in congress during the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
Funny, I'm no defender of JFK or Bill.
Private is private, well that is Hillary's argument about her Wall St speeches as well, they were not in the public domain so it goes.
What Hill says to Wall St has a direct impact
on policies that affect my life, and the lives of everybody in this country, and perhaps everybody in the world.
Seriously. That's the prospective CEO talking to the Board of Directors.
None of that should be private, if we can help it.
I really don't care too much who has sex with whom; if it's rape, that's definitely a problem, but as always, both candidates seem equally grimy; I'm not idiot enough to treat Hillary and Bill like they AREN'T one united political force. And it ain't because they're married either.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
So the words he said don't matter? Sorry but
I cannot agree that that is not important and should not be of interest to the public, I found them to be merely a confirmation of what he has said less bluntly in public.
Bill and Hillary are joined at the hip, it profits them both no matter what goes on elsewhere.
Anyway it is not me calling for Trump to quit, I couldn't care less, it's members of his Party that are s doing. I'm more interested in what reaction would come from the Hillary Campaign if it happened.
anti-establishment vs. establishment
Trump is anti-establishment. The GOP establishment does not want him in DC at any cost. The tax returns, the women, all this scandal stuff is to promote their end.
There is also a very strong anti-establishment sentiment among voters of all political persuasions. If they were to ever all coalesce on one candidate, the establishment choices would be toast. The establishment can't take that risk so they must discredit, discredit, discredit.
Rape and sexual harassment are always of importance.
So if Trump actually raped someone or committed sexual harassment--the latter of which is pretty likely, I'd say--yeah, that matters; but as I said, there's little to choose, for my money, between Donald and Bill, and given the way Hill has joined herself politically at the hip, as you say, to Bill, I don't let her off the hook for that. It all kind of becomes a wash to me.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
But hasn't Bill been accused
But hasn't Bill been accused of rape more than once in his long and seamy life?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Yes.
Yes, according to book The Clintons War on Women. First occurrence was date rape when he was student at Oxford, for which he was kicked out. Several more when he was in Arkansas. He apparently had the habit of biting the victim's lip during the rape--more than one woman tells the same story.
The book goes into some accounts of how the women were intimidated and threatened, and were terrified of coming forward.
The reading of the book requires a strong stomach.
Making someone good or evil in the public's eye
Making someone good or evil in the public's eye is the job of a propagandist. That's why we were given stories of Iraqi troops throwing babies out of incubators. That's why Ghadafy had to be hated. That's why Assad is now public enemy #1 with Putin closing fast. This goes back at least to when I was a kid and wore a Castro mask for Halloween. The CIA demonizes the enemy.
It was a little different with JFK. The CIA's problem was that after it murdered JFK people still like him. So he had to be assassinated again. This is an important article which demonstrates why you might presume, accept that JFK was a lousy womanizer:
http://www.ctka.net/pr997-jfk.html
Or the job of the pollsters.
An internal memo leaked from a control agency to the Monmouth Polling Group at Monmouth University ordering them to "change the narrative." Obtained by RealTrueNews.org
https://www.scribd.com/document/324776022/Monmouth
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Is it still private
Is it still private when the President of the United States calls members of the cabinet to the White House and lies to them, and asks them to speak up in his defense, saying "he didn't have sexual relations with that woman."
Is it private when the President of the United States has phone sex with a young intern, without considering the possible consequences of black mail, if the phone is tapped?
expect many millennials will be busy googling this weekend!
The difference: what she says in private to her backers
contradicts what she says in public to voters on subjects of major potential impact to voters. That makes her private comments relevant. She's now on record stating (privately) why it's important to have a public position and a private position. For that same reason, it's important for voters to know both positions.
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." --Jiddu Krishnamurti
public official vs. private life
What is so concerning about what Hillary said in private paid speeches as a public figure, is that it is in direct conflict to what she said in public to voters as a public figure.
When you're in public office, you serve everyone. You can't have one agenda for the voter and another behind closed doors to those whose policies you favor.
Trump's private sex life was on his own time. Bill Clinton's sex life was on our taxpayer time, and occurred in the oval office. The women he victimized were public employees for the most part, and he had access to them only because of their jobs.
We have a responsibility to keep our government and civil servant employees free from sexual harassment and assault in the workplace. Even when the danger comes from the President himself.
That's an excellent point
When Bill was doing it he was the boss doing it to employees. A very bad version of sexual harassment.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
His life is private. His remarks were PUBLIC. He's a horrific
person and a horrific candidate.
So is the 'other' one.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Based on his record, I think Pence is worse than Trump.
Mix fundy religion with reactionary hate-filled politics and you get Pence. I think he's as odious as Cruz because he believes that crap. I don't think Trump believes in anything except Trump.
Pense probably can get the Repub donor class to write checks too.
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
He is indeed, but mainstream as far as the donors and
MSM are concerned
All of that is true, but I can't imagine Trump stepping aside
he simply does not have the humility for it (unless he were getting something bigger/better in return).
Hillary would insist they run her corpse even if she didn't not have the stamina to persist until the election. I cannot imagine rumblings for Trump to step aside would give any of them pause for ANY reason. She's already won - that's been true in their minds since March 2015 at least.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Oh I agree and said so, but it would be amusing to see
the reaction and this campaign has lacked humour in any shape or form to date.
... Hillary would insist they
How would we tell? By glitches and jerky Frankenstein movements and moments?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Why would an enemy of Clinton
Why would an enemy of Clinton release (partial) speeches on Friday night?
If, as NPR would have you believe, this a personal war between Hillary the Good and Putin the Evil, would the Russians release these speeches at a time when the weekend news will be Trump's latest? Why not wait until Monday and use the information to both take people's minds off Trump's behavior and to make fresh wounds against Hilz?
Better question: If the Clinton campaign wanted to blunt the impact of her speeches, when would be the perfect time to release selected snippets of them?
This way Clinton's admission that she has "public" and "private" views of governing, that she doesn't relate to the middle class (forget the poor) will disappear.
The long short, the same people who've been affecting elections and their results all over the world for the last seventy years (the CIA) are still at it, controlling the public dialogue on the Mighty Wurlitzer.
Enjoy the mouth-foaming Clinton supporters for the next 48 hours.
I stopped reading the pro-Hillary crowd months ago, it was like
peering into the workings of a cult.
It WAS peering into the workings of a cult.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Peter Levenda
has done some remarkable work about cultism, especially in the US and Nazi Germany (there's a continuum).
Each year no more than 15 young men at Yale are chosen to join the secret cult Skull and Bones. When considering that we have over 300 million people in the US, 15 a year is a mighty thin slice of the population.
In 2004 both major party candidates for President were Bonesmen. What a coincidence!
The Clinton campaign has asserted
that not only did Putin hack the Podesta's e-mails but the Russians most likely altered them to make Hillary look bad. Who believes this Putin did it crap?
This one freaks me right out. Cat Food Commission was right. Social Security cuts will be back so quick it will make your head spin. There is no need to alter these speeches that speak for themselves. It's interesting hearing the Clinton supporter's suddenly go conservative and defend the banksters and 1%. This is The Third Way in a nutshell. On there web site they describe themselves as 'Radical Maoderates'. Isn't that an oxymoron? The Keystone Pipeline part was chilling also. The hillbots are already doing the same dance that they did with Obasma. We already knew her positions so what's the big deal.
In case anyone hasn't seen this
Hillary Clinton, In Paid Speeches To Wall Street, Promoted Commission That Pushed Social Security Cuts
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Lol, as if anyone could
Lol, as if anyone could possibly make Hillary look worse than Hillary does!
Especially with this bizarre 'Putin-did-everything!' scapegoating toward Mutual Assured Destruction. I wonder if it was actually Putin in disguise who pushed fracking and the TPP around the world; sold Russia 20% of America's already inadequate strategic uranium resources, wore the 'Potholder Hillary' fashions, ran the Clinton Foundation for funds and profit while pretending to help the vulnerable, some of whom were poisoned with adulterated and useless (if toxic) AIDS drugs or ripped off of disaster aid going to benefit the wealthy; who and served/promised to profitably serve Wall St., Monsanto and toxic others as a public servant/Presidential candidate and to the great cost of the people all of these years? Wondering a little now if Nancy Reagan (think it was she, pretty sleepy, though) was possibly involved in gains from some of that misplaced contributed aid, and if that's why Hillary thought she was associated with AIDS charity work? They seem to be capable of anything, don't they?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Josh Marshall: "It's Too Late to Drop Trump"
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a-few-thoughts-on-the-video
I've already voted, his name was there, way too
late to change the ballot papers.
An interview (?) or something on PBS today
Trump says "zero chance" he will resign. Also interesting is a Podesta plan for elevating the visibility of three Rep candidates he termed "Pied Piper" candidates, Cruz, Trump and Carson, two months before Trump announced his candidacy. So Trump was likely a plant. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209217428409375&set=gm.1251124...
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
We've been receiving ballots at the County from absentees
They won't be counted immediately, but votes are being cast. We start early in-person voting on 10/24.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
I wondered where all the dirt was
Trump has been on TV more than any presidential candidate ever. That means the oppo researchers have a wealth of material at their disposal. Nobody used it during the Tea-GOP primaries because the other candidates didn't want to alienate Trump’s supporters. But there has to be more where this video came from.
"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."
Of course you are correct.
There's a whole SuperPAC which has been warehousing information on him. We shall continue to see more of it as things look worse for her.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
I guess Ted Cruz is out even though he had the second most votes
They don't have anybody who's not despicable. The Democrats have Bernie Sanders.
Beware the bullshit factories.
that Pence, not Cruz, is being mentioned is a clue
there would never be a Bernie candidacy if something even worse came out about Hills. They'd go with Kaine.
There would be a fight should she pull out
And the Dems have the same issue as the GOP with needing the candidate to pull out in order to be replaced based on their bylaws.
Bernie specifically had his votes entered into the record at the convention - ahead of an election, he has grounds to demand that spot if it becomes open.
I'm not saying that he would win that fight, but he has grounds to fight.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Yeah, they've got something
Yeah, they've got something on (edit: Kaine) - I hear he killed his brother, who was far more Able than he, although this was apparently rather a long time back now and I expect that the statute of limitations has expired, so we can't throw the book at him anyway.
(Yup, overtired and giggly, crawling off to bed with a book before I get any sillier.)
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I'm sure Hillary wants Trump out
Trump has the one thing she doesn't have: enthusiastic support. That's what wins elections. Why do you think they put so much effort into trying to make people enthusiastic about Hillary?
I hope Hillary loses big time. At least then we can avoid having a Republican majority at all levels of the nation's government come 2018.
same ol' tactics here
Remember when Bernie's tidal wave of support was really building? What did we read repeatedly in the MSM and Clinton propaganda? Right, about when Sanders would be dropping out. They haven't changed their tactics and pyschops toward voters.
Go look at Huffpost and AlterNet
Practically every story is about how awful Trump is, how everyone is abandoning him, how he must drop out NOW. AlterNet has a couple on how awful it is that Greens and Bernie voters aren't lining up behind Her.
Is there nothing else going on in the world that needs to be covered? No hurricane on the East Coast? No talk of establishing a no-fly zone in Syria that will lead to war with Russia (who are the only ones flying there)? Nothing about the hot blob reestablishing itself off the West Coast which will plunge the West back into drought? Nothing? Every damned story about how awful Trump is?
Could there be some ulterior motive?
From RealClearPolitics:
Saturday - Gravis (possibly the worst pollster out there) has Colorado tied. LA Times tracking poll has Trump up 3.
Friday - six general election polls, 2-way and 4-way, one has Trump +2, the others have Clinton up 1,2,4,5,6. Gravis (again) has Clinton ahead in FL by only 2.
Thursday - PPP has Clinton up by +1 in Ohio. Ohio. Let me say that again. Ohio. One of the better pollsters has Ohio within the margin of error.
Everyone is in a full court press against Trump, but the race is still too close to call. If Trump carries Colorado (as I maintain he will), he'll also win Pennsylvania and NV and maybe OH.
Clinton is the worst candidate in history. No amount of propaganda can save her.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
You're so right.
I can bear to read only Inquistr now.
Funny how the Trump video comes out
on the heels of the Wikileaks dump of the Clinton speeches to Wall Street. The Clinton campaign is going as far into the muck as they can to discourage Trump voters. The Clinton campaign's internals must be pretty bad. The thing is that most people voting for Trump are voting for him because they do not want an establishment candidate and to them Trump represents anti-establishment. I suspect Clinton is bleeding far more support to Stein and Johnson than public polling would have us believe. They cannot win on policy because Clinton has yet to clearly articulate any believable policies to benefit the public and the public does not trust her.
IMHO, this Trump story is an attempt to misdirect public attention away from the Wikileaks of Clinton's Wall Street speeches. If the main street media was practicing actual journalism, the Clinton speeches would be front page and Trump's crassness of speech would be a side show. But then if we had a real media practicing real journalism, Bernie would have gotten the nomination and there would be investigations into election rigging.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Good point, gulfgal
I agree that the video was dumped the same day that the wilileaks came out in order to obfuscate what she said during her speeches.
But wilileaks said that there is more to come out and if that's true, is there going to be something else coming out about Trump at the same time again?
As others have mentioned, Bill actually did more to sexually harassed women.
Jones, Flowers and Lewinsky.
And he was the president at the time when he was involved with Monica and she was an intern. He had a lot of power over her, but some of the comments I've read today is that she was the one who threw herself at him implying that he didn't do anything wrong.
Plus he perjured himself when he said that he didn't have sex with her and he was disbarred.
I remember all the democrats outside of the capital standing up for him and thought how weird it was that they were supporting a sexual predator.
And the horrible things that Hillary said about the women who made the accusations against Bill doesn't show her in a good light either.
What Trump said was disgusting and there are accusations that he raped someone, but has that been proven?
Good lord, can this election get any more hideous?
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Sometime, I feel
like we are living in an alternative universe and that cannot be real. But then I realize it is.
Just because this fits our times.
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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Watching one of those right wing
media clips that are sometimes referenced here, the announcers during the commander in chief town hall made comments to the effect that it is common knowledge that whatever Clinton is guilty of, she accuses Trump of. They talked about it like it was so obvious.
Makes me wonder if Hillary's mudslinging isn't getting too much traction anymore? If no one is believing her?
Well, she always does use the
Well, she always does use the old polluting industry tactic of accusing others of what they do themselves - Trump gets accused of saying that he uses his wealth and power as intimidation in grabbing women by the pussy and kissing them just as ABC unreleased footage appears of Bill Clinton actually attempting to grab a young lady by the pussy during an interview, unaware that cameras were running.
This was posted about in comments right here on C-9:
http://caucus99percent.com/content/wikileaks-actual-october-small-surpri...
But my personal theory is that Trump is the Greater Evil foil intended to stampede panicked voters to Hillary before they realize that even if just the Indies - the largest voting group in America - voted Green, a non-corporate, non-war-mongering, non TPP corporate coup-supporting President could be had, enabling us all to both actually survive and have better lives.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Good point about Bill caught on tape being released now. /nt
“Clinton has yet to clearly articulate any believable policies”
Indeed.
Some of Clinton’s pledges sound great. Until you remember who’s president
Actually it was "Help is on the way"
but the point stands.
As for Hillary, she never intended to win an election on hope. She thrives on despair.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Hell, Hillary is building an
Hell, Hillary is building an entire industry of despair, on the road to hell-on-Earth-ageddon, now with more nukes!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Hillary is in big trouble if Trump drops out
her campaign has never been about what she can accomplish for the country. It's all been "I'm not Trump".
If Trump were replaced what would she do? Scream that Pence (or whoever) is the most dangerous candidate since Hitler?
The "war machine" will do everthing possible
to anoint her heinous, while degrading the donald. Here is a piece I found from the Guardian.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2008/sep/02/women.johnmccain
The joke that should have sunk McCain
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Imagine the stink that would erupt were David Cameron to stand up in front of a dinner of rich Conservative backers and make a "joke" that implied that Sarah Brown had had a lesbian affair with Jacqui Smith and produced a love child (and an ugly one to boot). Can you imagine British papers deciding to downplay the story because it was in such bad taste, allowing Cameron to carry on with his assault on Downing Street?
Cross the pond and that is exactly what happened to John McCain at a fundraising dinner in Arizona a decade ago. "Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly?" he told a handful of big Republican funders. "Because Janet Reno is her father."
The remark packed into its 15 words several layers of misogyny. It disparaged the looks of Chelsea, then 18 and barely out of high school; it portrayed Reno as a man at a time when she was serving as the first female US attorney general; and it implied that Hillary Clinton was engaged in a lesbian affair while the Monica Lewinsky scandal was blazing. Not bad going, Senator McCain.
Any one of those elements would seem potentially terminal for a public figure. Yet here he is 10 years later presenting himself as a champion of feminism by appointing Sarah Palin as his running mate.
The puzzle is explained partly by the US press, which barely reported the story. The Washington Post broke it in June 1998 but declined to relate the joke on the grounds it was "too vile to repeat". Such coyness has long been ingrained in the US media, which has an annoying tendency to regard its readers as wayward children in need of moral protection. That's one important reason, incidentally, that blogs are doing so well in the US - they have no such scruples and behave in ways more akin to the British than the mainstream American media.
Think of presidential candidate John Edwards' affair and alleged love child. The refusal of most newspapers to touch the story was ridiculed in the blogosphere for weeks before Edwards himself "legitimised" it by confessing.
After his misogynist joke, McCain said sorry to Bill Clinton (though he made no direct apology to the three women involved) and the incident was all but forgotten. Should he win on November 4, his friends in the press might have some answering to do.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
I am at a Johnson rally
about to be interviewed for an ad. Cant wait to tell them my thoughts.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
It would be interesting to hear your impressions of Johnson n/t
Beware the bullshit factories.
Johnson supports the TPP
Johnson supports the TPP corporate coup, off-shored law and all - if he even understands about that part. That's enough to leave deep impressions of doom, right there.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
At least we can smoke pot with Johnson
While he sends us to our doom.
Beware the bullshit factories.
Good point. Comfortably numb
Good point. Comfortably numb in the radioactive dark is better than nothing.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
how to earn $1000, even $5000, a la InfoWars
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbNCGQIgKxc]
Hillary needs Trump to win
As Pence showed in the recent VP 'debate', any semi-competent Rethug would be able to match the lies and obfuscations that Her Royal Clintonness spouts.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.