For some reason, I cannot get it to open. I am wondering if any one else is having this problem.

How can he be a traitor when he is not a US citizen, and has never been allied with us?

Clinton cut off any attempts by the Gaddafil to negotiate some settlements even those by the Pentagon. She basically ensured that the country would be bombed and left in ruins by stopping any attempt by Gaddafil to talk. When you think about this, she actions are insane. She was supposed to be lead person in our government in negotiating and talking deals with states. Rather she acted more as the director of the CIA and head of the Pentagon.

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/02/even_critics_understate_how_catastrophic...

Little-discussed secret audio recordings released in early 2015 reveal how top Pentagon officials, and even one of the most progressive Democrats in Congress, were so wary of Clinton’s warmongering that they corresponded with the regime of Libyan dictator Muammar Qaddafi in hopes of pursuing some form of diplomacy.

Qaddafi’s son Seif wanted to negotiate a ceasefire with the U.S. government, opening up communications with the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Clinton later intervened and asked the Pentagon to stop talking to the Qaddafi regime.

Rep. Dennis Kucinich wrote a letter to Clinton and Obama in August 2011, warning against the war. “I have been contacted by an intermediary in Libya who has indicated that President Muammar Gadhafi is willing to negotiate an end to the conflict under conditions which would seem to favor Administration policy,” the Democratic lawmaker said. His plea was ignored.

A Pentagon intelligence official told Seif Qaddafi that his messages were falling on deaf ears. “Everything I am getting from the State Department is that they do not care about being part of this,” he explained.

“Secretary Clinton does not want to negotiate at all,” the U.S. intelligence official added.

Recced and agree with part of your post - but how often do Americans actually get what they vote for? Would elections be rigged if people actually did want psychopaths wrecking everything?

The argument that "the people always get exactly what they vote for" is an outrageous statement in the face of, among other things, blatant election fraud.

You and others keep basically asserting that the problem here is primarily one of cultural identity (aka "America is genocidal"), rather than of a takeover by a group of very wealthy individuals who were horribly taken aback in the late 60s and early 70s to see that America was not what they wanted it to be:

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/powell_memo_lewis/

Interestingly, that puts you in agreement with Lewis Powell: you both think that "the American system" is the system Powell served: a racist corporatocracy.

But the entire existence of the Powell memo and the subsequent counter-revolution its adherents engineered here proves that this isn't about "America" "American culture" or "Americans." If it were, Powell wouldn't have needed a fucking memo--the whole reason it was written is that the guys at the Chamber of Commerce were shocked to their core that too much of "America" was refusing to support their policy positions. And the politicians were, in many cases, listening to the people because they feared losing their jobs--and back then, voters could actually end a politician's career.

The fact that representative democracy was working even in a limited fashion to oppose the will of the rich and powerful so shocked and horrified them that they decided to trash democracy. As Powell himself put it, "What I don't understand is why we put up with all this." "We" being the wealthiest few and their public servants, "all this" being the people's movements that were inconveniencing them.

So they engineered a fantastic counter-revolution, which was extremely well-planned and well-funded, and which the American people alternately either fell for (Reagan supporters) or had no idea how to fight (almost everybody else). Well, there were also the people who were just tired of looking at the pile of garbage and decided to do coke or engage in psychological or spiritual navel-gazing because politics are so yesterday.

This history, which culminated in the election fraud of 2000 and 2004, mainly because even a good propaganda plan can't work forever, gets completely lost every time somebody makes the argument "Well, America's always been a cesspool." That argument survives because, of course, there was always plenty of evil here. The existence of evil: racist evil, genocidal evil--does not automatically lead to ignoring specific history, just as knowing about the Powell memo and the counter-revolution does not automatically lead to ignoring racist genocide. It's a false binary. One bit of evidence that it's false: guess what one of the things spurring the panic at the Chamber of Commerce was? The Civil Rights Act. The idea that they might have to start paying Black people equally to whites. The other, apparently, was the new environmental legislation, and the idea that they might have to pay to clean up their messes. Where did this legislation come from? Politicians feeling they had to (in many cases, grudgingly) kowtow to a bunch of angry, organized people, offering at least enough reforms to temporarily shut them up.

So K street needed to be invented, and after that, a police state and the concurrent state of endless war.

"America" is many, many things.

If it were simple, like I said, Lewis Powell and his cronies (and their descendants) would never have bothered spending millions--by now billions--on corrupting the government.