OT WE 27 NOV 24 ~ sandpaper


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In the woodwork finishing art, there is a known a basic formulaic system of
beginning with rough approaches and stepping down to finer finishing materials.
Progressing from a rough surface to a smooth finish. Applying this to the human
or philosophic condition is a small leap of logic.

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There are abrasive people that try to get their way by aggressive means. Think
the PMC, political and military characters.

Others have a much smoother approach to life. Artists, musicians and normal folk.
Imaginary thinkers, writers and poets. Being of a finesse sort perhaps
precludes radical change. Transformations will occur regardless.
Going against the grain gains little. Depending on the finish one wants to achieve.

The sands of time and the winds of change can abrade even the roughest rocks.

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All other things aside, this is an open thread.
Use whatever rasp you have on hand.

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Maurice sculpture by Hans Op de Beeck
https://www.thisiscolossal.com/2024/11/hans-op-de-beeck-whispered-tales/

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Zhai-Liza (Angel).”
Hans Op de Beeck
from his Whispered Tales exhibition

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Got the turkey in the oven to take to B'ham tomorrow. I normally smoke turkey, but my family prefers oven roasted...so it is in the oven.

For a smooth finish it takes coarse, medium and fine grit, and as you speculate perhaps with people too.

At last some good news out of the ME...
Israel-Hezbollah truce takes effect
The US-brokered ceasefire was announced on Tuesday following tense negotiations
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Hezbollah said at the time that it would not end the hostilities until Israel stops the war with Hamas in Gaza.

Thanks for the OT. Hope everyone has a good day!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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Lined the roasting pan with carrots, onion celery and garlic.
After 2 days of marinating the spatchcocked bird, tom is in the oven.
Good luck with your trip to B'ham. And thanks for coming by!

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Yeah that ought to work.

True

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@snoopydawg @snoopydawg @snoopydawg I want to smack the computer screen when I hear some pundit talk about how lazy American workers are, how they don't think the middle class Dems quite understood the implications of Obama's view of his politics. He thought of himself as resembling Reagan than past Democrat Presidents.
Well, that is an apt description of today's Dem party. I want to throw something at the computer screen when I hear tropes about how poor people are lazy. How they demand high wages and get upset because an immigrant will take the job at low wages. A corporation can't be blamed for holding their margin of profit based upon labor costs, which is proof poor people are stupid and have nobody to blame but themselves! Let the illegals in! They came here to work. (What's a few Cartel gangs in the neighborhood such a big damn deal, stupid!) Even Democrats are open to eliminating or greatly diminishing food stamps and Medicaid.
I do not expect to have Medicare or Social Security much longer, either. The Uniparty's wet dream.

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@on the cusp @snoopydawg
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so the demos come right out and say it. No more slide rule maths.
Was aghast on what the 'puter was coughing up early this AM.
Had to C-clean it, re-boot and all that other weird stuff. Helped a bit.

Doing the taters and rice, turkey is roasting away.

Thanks for showing up! Just for fun ..

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@QMS The sand paper grade from hard scrape to polishing touches, is very much the technique I have when dealing with people over politics. I have clients who are movers and shakers of local and state politics from both parties. Careful thought about which sandpaper grade to use is required!
We are in The Hill Country, finally being treated to some fall foliage. Headed to a Dale Watson concert tonight at Luckenbach. There is no a/c or heat in the dance hall. We got lucky. It will not be very cold tonight.
His fun crowd pleaser:

Last year, a woman, probably in her 60s, was first in line to get in the door. She looked like she had just come from the ranch, fringe leather jacket, sparkly cowboy boots, and it was only when she spoke that you realized she was from London. She could do the Texas Two-Step. I wonder if she will come tonight? I might inquire about the restrictions on home heating in England, just out of curiosity.
About that treaty, seems the US and Israel determine if it is breached and the proper retaliation in response. I think of the treaty as more of the same, but hope to be wrong.
Thanks for the OT, dear friend!

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He got the message that voters had rejected everything he stood for when democrats lost seats in congress and governorships across the country.
Then after he abhorrent terms democrats thought that the country would accept Obama 2.0 the Hellabitch, but instead they went with Trump. That’s Obama’s legacy forever.

Don’t forget that Powell admitted that he was raising interest rates to keep wages from rising and he ended up crashing the housing market. Did any dem speak out about it?

And if the uniparty actually wants to help American workers they would start arresting CEOs who hire undocumented immigrants…but of course they would never do that.

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@snoopydawg about hiring illegals. If it had ever, even once, been enforced, we would solve the open border crisis. Nope, it will require bio-metrics, the precursor of of CBDCs. Jamie Diamond and the Waltons are all just fine, thank you.
Capitalism long ago shifted away from local consumers influencing product prices. It is all about Wall Street and foreign investors.

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@on the cusp
wow, everything is going down the drain, it seems. Glad to read you all. Thanks.

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@mimi "Chica" is Spanish for girl or woman. It is a term of endearment, or to flatter an attractive female. You are both!
Things are commode-flush ready here, too, mimi. At least the site offers accurate info, discussion, and true friendship.
Hang in there, chica!

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@on the cusp
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isn't chica a poor spelling error for chicken?
Or is that pollo spelled with a why not.
Gotta get the Turks eye out of the oven thingy.

You have a good one!

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@on the cusp in these days it means a lot. Thanks, to all chicas around here.

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@snoopydawg Don't know whether to laugh or puke. I guess, when in doubt, do both.

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I’m commenting from inside a hyperbaric chamber, during my ride. It’s not a real chamber like I’ve been in before- I wouldn’t have been able to bring my phone, and there’s no way signal would make it out through the steel hull.

This chamber is a light duty double layer neoprene bag, big enough for a comfy chair and yours truly. The bag has a double-seal zipper, not a hatch… They are diving me to only ~40 feet of sea water equivalent, or basically 2 atm absolute- but the higher pressure forces more O2 into the blood. I’m breathing air enriched to 35% O2, not pure O2 like in a real chamber, but it certainly can’t hurt.

At 1.5 atm on the descent, i’m already seeing some stars in the blind area, so it would appear that it might be helping a bit- maybe it isn’t too late to help fix the damage.

If it continues to improve, I’ll go find a place that will pop me into a real tank and do a real Navy Treatment Table 6 dive, which I‘ve had before. That is to 60m (192fsw/7atm) switching between chamber air and pure O2 via mask, with the occasional seizure from O2 toxicity (self correcting, since you can’t help but automatically drop the mask). (;-)

Now, that is a real chamber ride, Still, this ain’t too shabby for retail medicine in a landlocked state! More after they surface me. Gonna take a nap.

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@usefewersyllables
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guess it helps having done the merci bends routine before
hope all those little corpuscles re-invigorate
good luck!

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@usefewersyllables My late husband lasted about 2 minutes in the chamber at a hospital. He was screaming and banging the was with his fists.
Starry eys is a good stort! Prove the reluctant dr. wrong! Make him/her a better dr.!

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@usefewersyllables Your idea of going to the Navy chambers is a good one. If you can, go there.

Mon mari and i both had Tick borne diseases (aka Lyme) and eventually ended up in steel chambers in Chico, California. We dove to 1.5 ata with 95% oxygen. Very careful of sparks even not allowed to wear synthetic fabric. One downside was that an eight seat chamber was ok as long as we all had about the same tolerance to the descent. Ear drums were often a problem, requiring some to have the drum scored so pressure wouldn't build inside.

We ended up with our own chamber, oxygen concentrator and compresssor. It really does help many conditions and healing. We had the benefit of controlling our own dive speed and length of stay. A remarkable device for sick people.

Best of luck to you. We too have lost our home and health over a short period, but we endeavor to perservere and step by step have been on the recovery road. Happy Thanksgiving.

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several places around the Denver area with proper chambers, and my new primary care physician is very receptive to "alternative" techniques. Well, as you know, there's nothing at all "alternative" or off-label about HBO used for soft tissue, neuro, and burn injuries, let alone DCS. So I should be able to make a non-Navy connection or two here. The Table 6 is essentially standard across all the dive medicine people, and I'd imagine that it would be known to the other specialties as well. The Navy did pretty much write the book on the subject...

The chamber at the Kuakini Medical Center on Oahu was downright amazing. Truly, Hawaii was a great place to get bent, if you are just determined to do it for some reason. At the time 20+ years ago, Dr. Robert Overlock at Kuakini was basically the dean of dive medicine worldwide, and I was lucky to be seen by him, and have one of his close associates run the chamber for my rides. At the time, that chamber seated 20 in one sub-hull, had 4 hospital beds in another, and a complete anteroom/separate lockout system for the dive nurses. Those are some cool characters... Completely relieved my symptoms, so I've directly experienced it working.

Pro tip I just learned: never select doctors near your own age. In the last 6 months, my PCP, cardiologist, acupuncturist, and opthalmologist have all friggin' gone and retired on me. And Doc Overlock passed in 2016. And wouldn't you know, now I need 'em, and I have to go find new ones. Only my knee guy remains, but he looks like a 35-year-old Matthew McConaghey- I picked a baby. My wife liked him, anyway... (;-)

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@usefewersyllables
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doctors are now paper pushers
the NP's do most of the heavy lifting
med techs do most of the hands-on stuff
all tied into whatever computer program is
being fed to them - coding and check boxes
is all you can expect now - not health care
something to do with insurance perhaps?

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@usefewersyllables
I had a doc retire on me, and his son took over the practice. A few years later he retired also.
I feel OLD!
Damn.
By now you are probably out of the chamber/bubble. Hope you're seeing more better.
Know that I just finished with your recipe for cranberry sauce. You were right on, it's delicious. Cooling in the fridge now.
Will let you know how it goes down tomorrow at dinner (earthling2 is already a convert).
Get well soon and have a happy Thanksgiving.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

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@earthling1

There’s no better recipe to astonish the cranberry hater. We make a quadruple batch, freeze it in little delis, and that’ll last us to the 4th of July, when we’ll do a midsummer single batch to coast through to the holidays. It is great on ice cream in the dead of summer…

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Tomorrow is bearing down on us at a rapid rate, literally and figuratively. I ws gong to post a T-Day rant, a few hours ago, and here it is already now and I still haven't started and have instead decided to be nice about the whole damn thing. But maybe tomorow, or perhaps next year.

Got to spend a chunk of the day so far trying to deal with some electronics having cartoon based interfaces and "manuals". Bah! To adjust ;-(, ! => I-m so happy Crazy @=> and press ok. Say waht?

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@humphrey
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bing bing bing
where do these idiots reside?
a peace prize for trump may be a bit early

just finished the gravy!
heavenly

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

meat grinder.

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@humphrey It worked for the US. Once.

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and lots of other words in that vein! A crime against humanity too because there is no way they can help win the war.

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@snoopydawg /s. I is inhumane to enlist ANYONE of ANY AGE to prolong a war of attrition when you are on the side that can never win.

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From simplicious

The war is terrible, honestly. It has never been as hard as it is now in all this fucking time. People are leaving in packs, and then they just say the standard phrase: missing. But no. They don't even say it anymore. Everyone understands everything anyway. I really want to believe that Zelensky is just being deceived. Otherwise, if he is really aware of the state of affairs at the front, I cannot call it anything other than the extermination of his own people.

Ukrainian Post

The war was proven to be lost after the Ukraine surge that accomplished nothing. It’s was their Gettysburg.

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as Lindsay would say
it is about resources
and Black Rock will back that up

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@QMS

that Lindsay has been involved in Ukraine long before the Obama coup and the US/CIA has been there since the coup and yet they weren’t interested in taking those minerals out before now. Curious.

Ukraine governments have been selling off the country for years and I sure hope the people know about it so they can confiscate Zelensky's billions before he skeedaddles off to one of his many mansions.

But then our government has done the same and we have just yawned.

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is needed for any number grit though. Not sure which is more important.
Thanks for the OT and have a great turkey day.

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@earthling1
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knocking down the bumps
is a labor of lust love
if there is a passion somewhere
thanks for the well wishes and
much the same for you
giving tanks Wink

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