News Dump Monday: Deutsche Bank Failing Edition

Deutsche Bank collapsing

Shares in Germany's biggest bank haven't been this cheap for more than 20 years.
Deutsche Bank stock slumped as much as 6.5% on Monday. The trigger appeared to be reports over the weekend that the German government has ruled out state assistance for the troubled bank.
Monday's losses pile on the pain for investors, who have seen the bank's market value collapse by 52% this year.
Deutsche Bank (DB) has been hit by a series of body blows that have weakened its finances.
It spent billions settling charges that it conspired to manipulate global interest rates and colluded with other banks to rig foreign exchange rates; its margins have disappeared due to record low interest rates and the cost of new regulations; and it has just been slammed with a $14 billion demand from the U.S. Justice Department over its role in the global financial crisis.

The L Word

Despite German Chancellor Angela Merkel reportedly stating otherwise, "it's not necessarily a Lehman moment," said Boockvar, "because we have to assume that the German government in some way will bail them out."

If Deutsche Bank goes down

And yet it has become increasingly hard to ignore the slow-motion car crash that is Deutsche Bank, or to avoid the conclusion that something very nasty is developing at what was once seen as Europe’s strongest financial institution. Its shares have been in free-fall for a year, touching a new low of 10.7 euros on Monday, down from 27 euros a year ago. Over the weekend, the German Chancellor Angela Merkel waded into the mess, briefing that there could be no government bail-out of the bank.
But hold on. Surely that is an extra-ordinary decision? If the German government does not stand behind the bank, then inevitably all its counter-parties – the other banks and institutions it deals with – are going to start feeling very nervous about trading with it. As we know from 2008, once confidence starts to evaporate, a bank is in big, big trouble. In fact, if Deutsche does go down, it is looking increasingly likely that it will take Merkel with it – and quite possibly the euro as well.

Asia doesn't want our Treasuries anymore

Overseas creditors have played a key role in financing America’s debt as the U.S. borrowed heavily in the aftermath of the financial crisis to revive the economy. Since 2008, foreigners have more than doubled their investments in Treasuries and now own about $6.25 trillion.
Central banks have led the way. China, the biggest foreign holder of Treasuries, funneled hundreds of billions of dollars back into the U.S. as its export-based economy boomed.
Now, that’s all starting to change. The amount of U.S. government debt held in custody at the Fed has decreased by $78 billion this quarter, following a decline of almost $100 billion over the first six months of the year. The drop is the biggest on a year-to-date basis since at least 2002 and quadruple the amount of any full year on record, Fed data show.
Big holders of Treasuries are selling for a variety of reasons, but they’re all tied to each country’s economic woes. In China, the central bank has been selling U.S. government debt to defend the yuan as slumping growth leads to more capital outflows. Japan, the second-biggest foreign holder, has swapped Treasuries for cash and T-bills as prolonged negative rates in the Asian nation pushed up dollar demand at local banks.

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Losing in Afghanistan

By a variety of indicators, ISAF and the Afghan government it supports are losing the war. According to data recently released by the Pentagon to one of the authors, violence in Afghanistan following Obama’s 2009 troop surge has remained at levels vastly exceeding those observed during the initial years of the war. Meanwhile, measures of insurgent activity, from kidnappings to weapons sales, have remained at levels at or above those observed when the United States “surged” troops into the country. Perhaps most alarmingly, since 2010, when ISAF began tracking combat outcomes on a consistent basis, the number of insurgent attacks resulting in the deaths of Afghan police officers and soldiers have continued to steadily climb.
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First, it is unlikely that the Taliban’s spread in Afghanistan can be thwarted. Despite the United States’ current and continued presence in Afghanistan, the Taliban is challenging the Afghan government’s control of entire provinces, including Kandahar and Uruzgan. Meanwhile, the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan’s Reconstruction recently reported that, since January of this year, the Afghan government has lost control of an additional five percent of its districts. It now controls only 65.6 percent of them. Another source estimates that a full one-fifth of Afghan territory is “controlled or contested” by the Taliban.

IS returns to Afghanistan

Officials and witnesses in Afghanistan say fighters linked to Islamic State have regained control of most of the militant group's former strongholds in the country, weeks after retreating to remote mountain hideouts in the face of major Afghan security operations.
The troubled areas are located in Achin, Naziyan, Kot and Haska Meena districts of the eastern Nangarhar province, which borders Pakistan.

al-Qaeda returns to Afghanistan

The military is now hunting al-Qaida leaders in seven different provinces, indicating a high level of growth since the U.S. invasion in 2001, Commander of all U.S. forces in Afghanistan Army Gen. John Nicholson admitted to reporters yesterday.
Al-Qaida operations have increased throughout Afghanistan since the end of U.S. combat missions in 2014. The U.S. assisted an Afghan-led operation in 2015 that destroyed the largest al-Qaida training camp seen in the history of the Afghan war. U.S.-backed Afghan forces raided another al-Qaida training base Sept. 19. The base was well stocked with weapons, suicide vests, and fake identification.

U.S. taxpayer funded corruption in Afghanistan

Out of 168 nations ranked, Afghanistan clocks in just two shy of last place at 166. Six in 10 Afghans reported having to pay bribes to facilitate government transactions, and as many agreed their country became more corrupt from 2007 to 2010—a bad situation made worse.
Now it turns out this isn’t just the expected corruption of an impoverished, undeveloped, war-torn nation. It’s corruption on steroids, and the United States government is supplying the juice.
“Our report points out that while corruption in Afghanistan pre-dates 2001, it has become far more serious and widespread since then,” SIGAR head John Sopko summarized in a recent speech, adding, “The result [of U.S. nation-building attempts] for Afghanistan was systemic corruption—pervasive and entrenched, affecting the courts, the army and police, banking, and other critical sectors.”
In fact, corruption has become such a pervasive part of Afghan life since 2001 that cultural attitudes about paying bribes have dramatically shifted in just a decade and a half. Where once bribery was shameful, now it is met with tacit acceptance as a necessary evil.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse's picture

scary. All the neo-con and neo-lib chickens coming home and fighting for roosting space at the same time.

I would imagine this will depress the spirits of the Masters Of The Universe at the dancing naked around the giant oak while wearing a goat head event this year.

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" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "

Shockwave's picture

...according to the White House. Or worse;

Heroin Dealer in Chief. Afghanistan, Source of 90% of The World’s Heroin

Afghanistan became the #1 worldwide producer of opium and heroin by 1995. The CIA created Taliban government exported opium and heroin to Iran, Russia and China addicting millions, causing enormous economic damages, heroin-fueled crime waves plus deadly epidemics (AIDS, Hepatitis C).

The Real Afghanistan Surge is in Heroin Production and Tripled Opium Cultivation since the US military arrived/ UN and US Government documents

CIA and drugs, who could have guessed...

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The political revolution continues

to have developed Stealth Donkeys and Stealth Scooters, in their mile-long opium-carrying caravans bringing the stuff to Europe and North America, and able to evade ALL our satellites and air surveillance. A true miracle of engineering, that.

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Orwell: Where's the omelette?

shaharazade's picture

have had centuries of experience 'engineering' how to cope with and evade invading empires. Humans are smarter then any smart bomb. I remember way back when the war on terra started that a lot people including me thought it was cowardly to rain bombs and then unleash drones on people and countries we decided were against our vested 'interests'. .' How anyone can turn their backs on this bloody endless war or worse justify it is beyond me. Where's the anti-war movement? 'It belongs to them.Let's give it back'.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

Economists blame victims

First, everything about the crisis caught the country's leading economists by surprise. Somehow, the country's leading economists both could not see an $8 trillion housing bubble, nor could they understand how its collapse would seriously damage the economy...
The record of failure continued into the recovery. Most economists believed that we would see a quick bounce back from the crash, even without any exceptional amounts of government stimulus. This was the excuse for the austerity that was imposed across the world in 2011. As a result, we have seen an incredibly slow recovery in the United States, and an even slower one in Europe....
While the unemployment rate is relatively low, those of us who are opposed to Fed rate hikes point out that millions of prime-age workers (ages 25-54) have dropped out of the labor force and are not counted as unemployed. These people likely would be working if the economy created the jobs.
But the rate hike crew decided the problem is that millions of men are no longer suited for the labor market. One economist even argued that these men have opted for internet porn and video games over work.
It's touching to see economists talking about the problems of men without jobs....
In other words, our leading economists had no clue about what was going on in the economy at the time of the crash, they got the recovery completely wrong, and they still don't seem to have a clue today. But they are good at making up stories about the lack of marketable skills of less-educated workers.

Yes, they could have been prosecuted

I believe, as discussed previously, there were 10 areas where fraud and abuse took place. These were the Mortgage Electronic Registration Systems; mortgage pools; securitization; “misplaced” mortgage notes; force-placed insurance; servicing fees; fake documents; false affidavits, perjury and robo-signing; foreclosure mills; and active military members losing homes while on duty.

I am convinced that these cases were easy to prosecute, that a first-year law student would have a 90 percent conviction rate, that the documentary evidence was overwhelming, especially of mortgage and foreclosure fraud. As we know, there were no prosecutions of any significance -- not at the state level, not at a federal level.

After much research, I have come to believe that at the highest levels of government, the financial industry managed to convince prosecutors that it was against societal interests to bust bankers. The revolving door between government and the private sector, between regulators and regulated, figures in this. If you’re a prosecutor, but you might like a big payday from business, do you really want to go hard on the companies that might offer you a job one day?

The bigger problem has been the normalization of fraud. We found out in 2008 that Department of Justice prosecutions and Securities and Exchange Commission enforcement actions against Wall Street had fallen 87 percent. Before you blame the George W. Bush administration, that same lack of prosecutorial zeal continued under the administration of Barack Obama.

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enhydra lutris's picture

it was a symptom was obvious to anybody paying attention. It should have been especially obvious to anybody familiar with US banking history.

Penn Square Bank, NA, of Oklahomie, a small, strip mall bank in the midwest started lending to just about anybody with a drilling rig and then upstreaming the loans to other larger banks. The drillers were going after extremely highly pressurized deep deep gas, they failed, and so did the upstream banks. You can find the history by looking into the failure of Continental Illinois National Bank & Trust Co., the largest bank failure in the history of the US until WaMu went down in 2008. There was a great article or series thereof in the New Yorker, of all places, back in the seventies.

Here's a wikipedia intro summary on that:

In May 1984,[5] Continental Illinois became insolvent due, in part, to bad loans purchased from the failed Penn Square Bank N.A. of Oklahoma—loans for oil & gas producers and service companies and investors in the Oklahoma and Texas oil & gas boom of the late 1970s and early 1980s. Due diligence was not properly conducted by John Lytle, an executive in the Mid-Continent Division of oil lending, and other leading officers of the bank. Lytle later pleaded guilty to a count of defrauding Continental of $2.25 million and receiving $585,000 in kickbacks for approving risky loan applications. Lytle was sentenced to three and a half years in a federal prison. The Penn Square failure eventually caused a substantial run on the bank's deposits once it became clear Continental Illinois was headed for failure. Large depositors withdrew over $10 billion of deposits in early May 1984.[6]

Hello?
Penn Square didn't do due diligence because they didn't need to because they didn't plan on holding and servicing the loans. Make the loan, go through the motions, upstream it, and voila!, instant casharoonie from the purchasing upstream banks, no risk, no worries. Certainly no concern about whether the collateral or potential earnings were real, worth the value of the loan, etc.

Does that sound at all familiar?

One day a buddy of mine gave up his regular job to become a mortgage broker. "A what?" said I.
"A Mortgage Broker", quoth he. He would find a client the best deal on a mortgage and get a fee from the customer and the lender too. "Bird dog fees?" said I. "No, these are banks and S&Ls, not some sleazy car dealers", quoth he. Once aware that these "firms" existed, I began to notice that:
1) There were huge numbers of them
2) They were everywhere
3) They were proliferating like rabbits in heat in a predator free environment
4) They were pretty much unregulated.
5) Any real understanding of much of anything was pretty much optional.

I began to get scared right about there and then. Lemme see, person x "sells" indebtedness. No, no, no, no, no. People sell assets, not indebtedness. (Yah, I know, if it's way tons below market, blah, blah, not relevant.) Person x is a salesman, paid a commission by the successful lender, to place their loan with a patsy. After all, it is placed upon the patsy, who now is indebted to said lender, at the best available, but still financially ridiculous terms, secured by a chunk of turf that is no longer a home, but an investment. The terms are invariably such that massive appreciation in the investment or the debtor's income must occur or else the borrower will default.

Joe and Jill mortgage brokers have no reason to engage in due diligence. It ain't their money and it ain't their debt. In fact, they have quite an incentive to sell the biggest debt that they can fabricate a tissue thin dossier of laughably transparent paperwork to support.

Ah, but Lender Inc will reign them in, except, not, because mortgage backed securities. Lender Inc won't service or hold this, but will, in effect, upstream it to fucking Penn Central Bank middleman/patsies in the form of the myriad buyers just drooling after the high yields that tranches of junk-bonds secured by these bullshit loans are touted as guaranteed to bring. The patsies don't get first shot at the hot potatoes, however, they are upstreamed through middlemen, brokers, bankers, insurance companies and other crony crooks. Somebody held a couple of potatoes too long and the whole stinking house of cards came down.

We are given to understand that the top economics wallahs didn't see this coming. That is believable, because they are stupid and have bought into the myths and illusions that they propagate, but, really? They're that dumb? This and similar scenarios are not essay questions on the CPA exam because even the worst and least knowledgeable candidate would get them.

NB: Mortgage backed securities, along with LBOs made us what we are today. I should do a larger rant, but, for your own good, assume that the net worth of anything you plan on investing in is largely fictitious.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Yes Obama that includes you. I will never forgive you for letting 100% of the bankers off the hook and let them keep their ill gotten gains, shame on you

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The backlash against Trump isn’t really about his lying. It’s that he is lying too clumsily, too openly, and in the service of the wrong causes. Earlier this month, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence released a summary of their report on Edward Snowden’s disclosures. They wrote that Snowden washed out of the Army because of “shin splints,” “doctored his performance evaluations,” and never received a high school degree. All three of these claims are lies, as spelled out by Barton Gellman. These lies came from 24 sitting members of Congress who are charged with overseeing the intelligence community. But there has been little outcry, no correction, and no demands that these assertions be backed up by evidence. This may be because our political culture has come to accept certain abuses of the truth as normal, and the lack of accountability for those officials behind the Bush-era deceptions has not improved matters.

Today, if you want to use your official position to slander Edward Snowden, or to claim that only three men were waterboarded at Guantánamo, or to argue against the release of 28 pages of a publicly funded report on the 9/11 attacks, the worst that most newspapers will do is quote someone who disagrees with you. Senior official says X, some critics say Y. This is stenography, and for those interested in figuring out how we came to inhabit a post-fact world, this might be one place to begin.

Trump’s lies are an essential part of his candidacy. Debunking them is crucial. But the attention given to logging Trump’s lies often comes at the expense of addressing the deeper truths that run through his “rigged system” rhetoric. Trump, more than Clinton, has played to the growing sense that the country is run by an elite network of self-dealing oligarchs. Economic frustration is what allows Trump to convincingly set himself up as a worthy outsider, the champion of the people, the guy who can fix the broken system because he was so skilled at exploiting it for his own benefit. This is an almost messianic image. It has and will continue to survive barrages of fact-checking.

In a Monday editorial, the Times convincingly shot down Trump’s claims to be a financial genius, a “straight talker,” and an “expert negotiator.” But the paper grudgingly admitted that Trump was “a change agent for the nation and the world.” As much as Clinton might wish that the burden is on Trump to back up his outlandish statements, apologize for his slurs, and fill out his hollow, privileged résumé, Trump’s lack of respect for the truth may not matter, not unless Clinton can differentiate herself from the status quo.

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Trump's only positive contribution to this campaign was in telling Jeb Bush that his brother did not keep us safe, thereby ending the pervasive blatant lie that Bush kept us safe.

In calling out that lie and telling the simple truth, Trump eliminated the Bush machine's favored candidate, not a small thing. But you have to ask the question, was it really that difficult to tell the truth about that simple reality?

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We may yet experience what it felt like to live in the Weimar Republic.

Question on Deutschebank: Does Germany have nationalization laws like the US that state that if a bank goes defunct, then it can be nationalized?

And... It looks like Winston Churchill is right - Afghanistan is were Empires go to die.

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Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?

Germany recently passed nationalization legislation:

https://www.welt.de/english-news/article3226119/Germany-approves-law-on-...

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Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?

just reading this passage about Afghanistan, for a moment there I thought we were talking about the United States.

“The result [of U.S. nation-building attempts] for Afghanistan was systemic corruption—pervasive and entrenched, affecting the courts, the army and police, banking, and other critical sectors.
In fact, corruption has become such a pervasive part of Afghan life since 2001 that cultural attitudes about paying bribes have dramatically shifted in just a decade and a half. Where once bribery was shameful, now it is met with tacit acceptance as a necessary evil."

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In the US, bribery isn't available for the retail citizen. Not yet, anyway.

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Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?

In the US, maybe the retail citizen can't afford to pay bribes...

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

k9disc's picture

fight them for us.

Scary shit across the planet.

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

I just watched the Big Short for the first time. Great movie. Fuck Obama and the Democrats. Vote for the Democrats because they're better than Trump my @ss. This goes back to Phoebe's essay earlier. No justice, no peace. I'll never vote for another Democrat.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

Hawkfish's picture

I never seem to get tired of it. Especially my .sig quote!

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We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg

shaharazade's picture

and heartless but I sincerely want both this globalized disaster capitalistic system to crash and burn and begone. When Obama used to talk about how we could not let it fail or else we would go over cliffs of mass destruction I would think let it rip. It's nothing but a house of cards a casino for the greedy death dealing assholes who want to, and do at this point, rule the world to begin with.

It's a psychotic global system that is so disconnected from reality and cause and effect it makes your head spin. Corporations especially the trans-national ones have no business running the world. They are almost worse then 'automated intelligence' in that their only principle is winning the race to the top and unimpeded growth. What for? dominance, wealth for the already wealthy? So nut's! Robotics that's the answer. How about a new app? How will we live and thrive? Forget about it. we need more and more power and wealth as it's some kind of manifest destiny that the psycho fuckers will inherit and wreck the earth. Believe it.

What ever it is that makes them think they are inevitable and the only way forward? They need to be stopped or else get so unwieldy and top heavy that they do go over those cliffs they say we need to avoid. Man just drive over the cliffs you fuckers created and begone. People will figure out how to carry on without your madness. Would be a boon to humanity if they and the MIC horse they rode in on went over the cliff. It would allow humans and the planet recover and build societies that were not dedicated to making a profit by killing life itself.

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statement, shaharazade. I salute you.

This is the very same argument slaveholders made about the end of slavery, that it would result in disaster, in the unraveling of the economy, in vengeance-taking on a massive scale.

Lincoln thought otherwise, that labor was the source of all capital, and that free labor could support itself.

Jefferson, on the other hand, made his famous remark that slavery was like holding a wolf by the ears, that you didn't like it, but you didn't dare let go. He said, "Justice is in one scale, and self-preservation in the other."

So it may be that persons in positions of power through injustice know better than we do how vulnerable they are to our vengeance-seeking. It may be that if the Saudi government, for example, is found culpable for the support of the attack on the United States in 2001, it might not just mean that the Saudi dictatorship would end, but that their U.S. lawyers, money launderers, and hit men would end, which would be a catastrophe for them personally.

For us it would be a win-win-win-win situation, of course, economically, spiritually, environmentally, and security-wise. But for the fascists, disaster.

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Alligator Ed's picture

Follow the logic. 50% of GDP feeds the military (hence the Mic). How do we justify this massive military? Threats. Who defines a threat? The people whose economic interests would be harmed by letting other countries act independently. Bananas--very dangerous. You might slip on one and die--ok, lets invade Honduras). Oil, verrrry dangerous. If it gets into the wrong hands it just might make struggling countries more economically successful. You know, that not "keeping the oil" for ourselves will just enhance terror groups like Al-Qaeda or ISIS--or, is Al-Qaeda now a good ally in Syria, fighting those ISIS demons created by Obama and Killary? Hard to keep track any more. See, we have to keep fighting these pesky folks who essentially just wanted to be left alone in the first place--but now have a mad-on against us for who-knows-what reasons (?!). Now, in an economy just inches away from crashing, we need a government spending program. How should we best spend our dollars? Fight the enemy du jour. That will pump up the military industrial fellas. But because our economy is just so fragile, the MIC has to economize on wages--you know, having these $1B fighters chews into military budgets fairly quickly. So the workers in the industry (to be distinguished from the mucky-mucks) will take a financial hit, else the U.S. "self-defense" industry be off-shored--that really enhances our security! The workers become wage slaves.

But what about those countries to whom we off-shore our domestic military production--the solution is simple. We must become their "protectors", whether they like it or not. Hence we need to expand our military further to protect our protectorate as well as our enemies.

Without re-inventing the past (because the oligarchs don't seem to learn from history), some of those protected countries are going to rebel. Then they will breed more enemies for us to subdue--just as we have successfully subdued the Taliban, ISIS, and Al-Qaeda.

So, if you think Syria is a screwed up mess, wait long enough, and we'll have a world full of frenemies. Ok, Hillary will solve this with another brilliant foreign policy initiative. Don't lose hope--we're screwed anyway.

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Again I'm asking for a bingo card to keep track of our allies and enemies.
First there's Al Quada who we created in the 80's to fight the USSR.
Then they supposedly attacked us on 9/11 so we invaded Afghanistan in order to fight them even though we knew that Bin Laden and his merry men had fled to Pakistan.
And then for some reason we started fighting the Taliban and not only was the military protecting the poppy fields so that the CIA could get their hands on the opium but the military was also paying the Taliban protection money so that our convoys bringing military equipment to fight them could safely travel through Taliban country.
Next we had to invade Iraq because Saddam had WMDs that we gave him to use against the Iranian troops during the Iraq/Iran war along with the coordinates of where the Iranian troops were.
Plus he was said to have met with 2-3 Al Quada members.
So after we bombed the hell out of Iraq, suddenly floods of Al Quada fighters came into Iraq and we had to fight one group of them while paying the other group to not fight our troops.
After we destroyed Libya and killed a bunch of people in order to protect them because Gaddafi was killing them, we armed, trained and funded some moderate terrorists in Syria, including Al Quada and their offsprings because Assad used sarin nerve gas on his own people. And again we had to bomb the people in Syria and destroy their country in order to protect them from Assad.
Except he actually didn't use the sarin gas on his own people, it was our moderate Syrian rebels that used the gas after the CIA gave it to them after they smuggled it out of the embassy in Benghazi. And we did that so Obama could have an excuse to overthrow Assad. Assad invited Russia to help him fight a bunch of countries and the terrorists that we and them armed and funded. Then during a cease fire between all the parties who were bombing the Syrian people or trying to protect them, we bombed the Syrian troops, killing 63 of them and wounding about 100, that gave ISIL the opportunity to take back the territory that the Syrian army was protecting. And we blamed it on Russia because Susan Powers and Kerry said so.
So while our troops are fighting alongside Al Quada in Syria to help us overthrow Assad because Saud Arabia, Qatar and other countries want to put in their own pipelines that Russia has permission to use,to our troops are going to be fighting against Al Quada again since they have returned to Afghanistan.
Is this correct or have I missed something?
Now do you understand why I need a bingo card to keep track of who the hell is the good and bad guys?
I'm thinking that the 50% of our GDP isn't really for protecting our country or our freedoms, but spending it on our military so that they can help the corporations steal other country's resources just like Smedley Butler told us in 1930 when he said that he had spent 33 years being muscle for hire for the corporations.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.

travelerxxx's picture

I want one of your BINGO cards so I can keep this as straight as you have done, snoopydawg!

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RLG Partner, Court Rich, tweets from the Deutsche Bank Leveraged Finance Conference where Clinton and Bush spoke – fascinating interaction!
Posted by Melissa / October 11, 2012 / No Comments

At Deutsche Bank Leveraged Finance Conference just heard from Presidents Clinton and George W. together.

Follow @RoseLawGroup and @Court_Rich on Twitter!

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