This Clinton mystery is getting out of hand

This is interesting. Some are saying that Hillary's rally in Greensboro was a fake, done on a green screen. The most extensive analysis is here (long, 30 mins)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzFglNq0Thc
Though he gets some stuff wrong. For instance he questions the placement and size of the flag on one shot, but it's from an angle and the flag seen is not the large on on the wall, it is one that is in the corner of the room. The same explanation for the small group of supporters. The guy who casts a shadow on the flag could possibly be 40 feet behind Mrs. Clinton if the camera was at the back of the room, he wouldn't seem that much smaller than someone in the 'foreground' (but still a long way away from the camera) of the shot.

Now with the criticisms out of the way, something does seem hincky here, as best illustrated in this 3 min video where dozens of cameras held aloft don't show any flags in the background.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCP3HIhQgLI
Neither do they show Hillary as she walks past them.

But what I find really interesting, and it pops the tinfoil off my head with a puff of smoke, is this still image of the video stream, where some artifacts appeared in the video. We expect artifacts in web video, but what I would like someone to please explain to me is how you could get artifacts of the background showing through FSC?
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Bollox Ref's picture

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Please let it stop. Jared Polis wrote on Medium that Springfield, Simpson-land would vote for Hillary. That was morning queasy reading. Can she go there? And drag Trump with her?

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Zero Hedge had an article on it. Also embedded with that article is a video of Hillary speaking last night in Philadelphia. In it, you can clearly see there is something wrong with her eyes sparking questions as to her neurological state. I noticed it in pictures of her on her airplane too. Something is not right with her healthwise.

For some reason the video will not embed here. Edited to remove video link. The video is still in the article but I wonder how long it will remain there too.

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Something about her eyes while on the airplane seemed awry. Couldn't put my finger on it. Now that I know what to look for, whoa.

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“He may not have gotten the words out but the thoughts were great.”

not focusing with the right eye
definitely a neurological problem

can't see how she can make it until November..

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Hillary had a documented 6th cranial nerve (abducens nerve) injury secondary to the concussion in 2012. The effect of this is to prevent the right eye from fully abducting (look away from the midline). 6th nerve paresis can occur without brain jury in a head injury (note the distinction). It also occurs with brain injury. Approximately 50% of all cases are cause unknown (idiopathic) and most of the idiopathic ones resolve completely. Hillary's is definitely post-traumatic. Even after apparent recovery, during conditions of fatigue, there may be transient abducens nerve decompensation resulting in temporary recurrence of the abduction problem.

Droopy eyelids, or in her case, right eye only, are not the result of 6th nerve issues. If any of you observers of HRC notice a video with a droopy eye, let me know. I have seen two pictures of this droopy right eye. I would like to see at least one more before offering a medical opinion.

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I don't wish her sickness. However, as much as I am not fan of Kaine, I would rather Kaine v. Trump than Clinton v. Trump.

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They were moving weird there.

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she is not using her prism glasses and is suffering double vision.

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Hillary Clinton is taking the day off again, she needs the rest. Sleep well Hillary - see you at the debate!

10:23 AM - 20 Sep 2016

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This is a sequence showing the repetitive eye patterns of H. Clinton at the NC speech. I promise I have not photo-shopped or otherwise retouched the photos. Time sequence marked. Unlike the crappy compositing by an AE jockey, this video shows no sign of fakery.

Video from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x72oBpk9WPI and downloaded.

Could this sequence be tweeted to interested parties (I am banned) who might diagnose the problems. Note" You may need to zoom in, the poster shrank on C99.

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http://www-sfc.healthline.com/symptom/crossed-eyes

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maybe it is really her clone or her body double...huh? huh?

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Well done is better than well said-Ben Franklin

is much more difficult to control when you are tired, and often becomes more difficult to control with age generally.

My son has strabismus. Most people don't know because he can control it easily - unless he's very tired.

But who knows?

Strabismus is not a result of anything wrong with the eyes - it's in the brain, where the brain has a difficult time making the eyes track together.

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of what we can see in the sequence. I think we can safely hypothesize ocular motility disorder as a visible symptom. It is up to medical personnel to inform the public of the underlying cause and prognosis which could conceivably be, "brain disorder, brain tumor, stroke, brain injury and/or diabetes or simply vision deterioration."

Added in edit:

In adults, strabismus is usually caused by:
diabetes
head trauma
stroke
brain tumor
other diseases affecting nerves that control eye muscles

The most obvious symptom of strabismus is an eye that isn't always straight. The deviation can vary from day to day or during the day. People who have strabismus often squint in bright sunlight or tilt their heads to focus their eyes.

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/traumatic+strabismus

Prism glasses are one treatment btw

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strabismus ; )

Hillary could have always had strabismus.

Some say prism glasses work. Others say they don't. My son had surgery at 2 years. It corrected about 60%, but he still has strabismus, though most of the time no one would ever notice.

From what I understand, most folks who have the surgery can look forward to the strabismus getting worse again at some point in their life as they age.

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to see straight. (yes, i speak from direct experience.)

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Whenever her eyes go cross, she looks to the side. She ends up looking side to side a whole lot, which she can get away with at a rally, but I wonder what she'll do at the debate. I don't think she can be so animated without looking uncontrolled, and if she tries a steady gaze it will really be apparent. It's ironic, that this is the least of her problems, but it could very well be the one that changes people's minds the most.

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“He may not have gotten the words out but the thoughts were great.”

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EDIT: I realized this is photoshopped (different size irises) but I'm leaving it up b/c it's funny.

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“He may not have gotten the words out but the thoughts were great.”

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For some reason, the link to the 3 minute video is not working. ..
Peace -
Murph

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it does, in fact look green-screened to me. (I could be wrong, but...)

If you look at the cell phone camera image, the flags in the background are missing. But what can we do about it? Not sure, except jail the 1%.

[video:https://youtu.be/xzFglNq0Thc align:center]

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http://rense.com/general96/doublefnl.htm

There is no doubt that the noses are different and the phony Hillary (which one is that?) is at least 10 years young and 10 lbs lighter.

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It is incredible if they really tried this trick. Healthy Hillary=not Hillary.

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Not as much gum line showing above teeth
so weird, must be the photo -
just can't believe they'd go so far as to do a switch-er-roo!
BUT, BUT, BUT the close up of her face before going into Chelsea's apartment, and the one of her leaving are so different, unless she had botox while there, no other explanation!

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I'm not convinced the 3 min video proves his green screen theory.

1. The cell phone cams that don't show the flags could be pointed at the crowd on the bleachers behind the podium.
2. When she waves at the end, she's probably waving at the the crowd on the bleachers to the left.

To see larger size, right click and pick View Image.

Here are links to the replays (NC Rally + Press Conf)

Just for completeness in case one of our C99 Sherlocks get motivated.

NC Rally speech (Full) (len 23:45)
https://youtu.be/eXZp2LZucP0

Press conf NC (len 10:08)
https://youtu.be/0FJ2mOcr7to

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There must be... dozens of people! LOL!

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are also in the audience. The actual crowd does run into the dozens. Hahaha.

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Everyone assumes it was a failure to draw a crowd, but I disagree. I'll bet everyone in that crowd was vetted beyond belief. If the green screen theory is right, they could all be plants.

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“He may not have gotten the words out but the thoughts were great.”

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But that's still a reasonably large number who have to stay quiet.

Like I say, the mind boggles.

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have a cup of coffee when I read you post!

RR Drinks

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I haven't followed any of the links, but I've watched the video. The most convincing thing I noticed is when Hillary "disappears," that the stripes of the flag, which should have not ever shown (since Hillary is in front of them at all times) are now visible in their entirety. That's says green screen to me.

I dunno. Right now, I would tend to believe my lying eyes, but with the Hillary campaign anything is possible.

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Body doubles and green screens? Are we that far down the rabbit hole that a candidate, or the candidate's campaign, would pursue such avenues.

?????

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Why would faked appearances be an ethical dilemma?

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No ethics, no dilemma. No problem.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

actors filling spots vacated by Bernie supporters, backing out the lights of Oregon at the convention, monkeyed voter rolls and machines.

Is there anything too low for them? No, body doubles and green screens are part of a larger pattern.

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There are multiple (wars,anyone?) to deflect and distract or something. I have always been Eeyore, there are more of you out there!

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1. If you make a layer of the flag, turn the opacity to 50%, then place the flag layer over Clinton, you would get that effect. If this is only one frame, that is the most likely, especially as the flag stripes are cantered to the left.

2. A cell phone is about the easiest thing in the world to mask and overlay with a video within the original video. Use After Effects and Mocha. Its a lot of work for multiple cell phones. But frankly, this would be a piece of cake for an After Effects jockey.

3. I've done it through window frames from videos shot indoors where I wanted to show someone peeking in the window and, in another showing a tsunami sea surge kind of thing. And I am a rank amateur.

4. The eye movements seem only a tad crazy, I will watch again without sound.

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From the Light House.

have a record of hiring less than stellar computer support.

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This YouTube user also touts that Hillary has syphillis. Laugh fucking out loud.

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sign of syphilis.
Shopkeeper2, you must keep up.
Ask for a raise.

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how transparent and ineffective you are.

I know times are tough, though. I hope you can find something with a bit more dignity in the future. I want you to do well, be happy and prosper.

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Hillary could have been exposed to many STDs over the course of their marriage. I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand, particularly common ones like Chlamydia and genital warts.

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NT TIMES (video): Hillary Clinton's news conference in "White Plains"

Hillary walking to the podium where the airplane is a good distance away...

STL-HTC-White Plains-01xxx.jpg

Compared to screen Capture from the video...

STL-HTC-White Plains-02.jpg

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But I notice she was capable of wearing thin heels that day. Was this the double, or the other double? Are the doubles stronger together?

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“I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought it was hell.”
― Harry Truman

When "Hillary" stepped out of Chelsea's apartment, people around this country felt that it wasn't Hillary & took to Twitter.

I myself had the thought that she looked like she'd lost weight & wondered why those expensive pants of hers didn't fit (not weight but body shape). Imagine my surprise when I found out that other people had a similar reaction.

Since then, there has been comparisons of noses etc (I myself think they should look at ears. I understand that they are very unique).

There was so much talk on the internet that one of the msm outlets (don't remember which) covered it, including a bit about a woman who is a professional look-alike, noting that she was on the west coast. I wondered why it wasn't the usual but about Internet loons & figure it was an attempt to distract.

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Hillarydouble1.jpg
Hillarydoubles4.jpg

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“He may not have gotten the words out but the thoughts were great.”

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“I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought it was hell.”
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The pics in pink and royal blue are not from 9/11.

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and it appears much WORSE than that.

Putting aside the most staggering possibility, namely, the "Hillary was arrested on 9/11" allegation, which I just posted about in my comment here. From my review, here are my findings, and I have to tell you, my mind is fucking reeling right now at the implications. I am gonna share my assessments, and please by all means, everyone give me your honest candid feedback/consensus.

Hillary at 9/11 memorial, so I will assume this is the real Hillary, because she looks old and haggard, and why use a body double that looks old and haggard?

STL-HRC-911-ONE.jpg

STL-HRC-911-ONE-SIDE.jpg

Fake "Hillary #1" vs Real Hillary:

STL-HRC-911-COMPARE.jpg

The real Hillary:
STL-HRC-REAL-OLDER.jpg

This is fake Hillary #2, a good 10 to 15 years younger:
STL-HRC-NOT01_0.jpg

For comparison, a side view:
STL-HILL-FAKE-COMP-SIDE.jpg

And this is fake Hillary #2, from the DNC Convention, if I am not mistaken:
STL-HRC-NOT02.jpg

And this is fake Hillary #2, from Bernie's endorsement rally
STL-HRC-FAKE-DNC.jpg
Bernie just had to know, but he also had to keep silent, or else...

Close up Fake Hillary #2:
STL-HRC-BERN-ENDORSE.jpg

Fake Hillary #2, from speech several days ago:
STL-HRC-NOT-33333.jpg

Fake Hillary #2, June 2015 - Roosevelt Island "Campaign Kick-Off" Speech:
STL-HRC-NOT03.jpg

Fake Hillary #2, several weeks ago at the Military Forum:
STL-HRC-FAKE-MIL_FORUM.jpg

And what about the Benghazi Hearing, is that Fake Hillary #2, as well?
STL-HRC-FAKE-BENGHAZI-COMP.jpg
I am sorry, folks, but that lady at the Benghazi Hearing looks 10 to 15 years younger than the Real Hillary.

Here's the real Hillary, not someone anyone would vote for:
STL-HRC-REAL-COLOR.jpg

I am floored. I honestly don't know what to think, folks. I think maybe we've all been duped, far more than we realize. What if the real Hillary is seriously so "foggy" and so "old" that they have been using a very well trained and very well prepped actress since Day #1 of the campaign?

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Does Hillary seem to also have smaller teeth whenever she looks older, or is that just me?

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The "Double #2" (Greensboro) has notably larger front teeth.

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“He may not have gotten the words out but the thoughts were great.”

Thanks.

If they have multiple doubles, kinda wondering why they don't just stick to them - unless they're being kept under a manhole cover somewhere and keep catching cold? Or just can't match Hillary's arrogance and ignorance, no matter how hard they try...

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Looks like she fixed her face at Chelsea's apartment, but didn't style her hair.

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but for the life of me I can't come up with one right now.

My improv skills must be getting rusty. Wink

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she's three mints in one! Haven't you been keeping up?

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(Yeah, well it sounded better in my head, lol!)

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as they say, "It's the thought that counts" Wink

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Spearmint, Peppermint & Dissapointmint,,,

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Derangement (original), Apartment (double #1), and Figment (#2)?

Entrapment, Indictment, and Imprisonment??

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Worked for me, gave me a giggle. So, thanks, I needed that! (Also better than a slap in the face like, with a wet cloth?)

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Who is that woman? When has she ever worn pants with such close fitting legs and not coming down over where her cankles should be? No matter how much weight a person loses, she can't lose the cankles, unless liposuction...eeeeuuuuuuuwwwwww...that's gotta hurt!
Seriously - when did she suddenly lose 20 or more pounds? But still wearing a COAT which comes down to her knees - in this HOT HOT HOT weather?

Almost as weird as the picture of her before she goes into Chelsea's apartment, and when she comes out of Chelsea's apartment.

Strange, all so very strange.

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I was checking pics from the debates, and the hems varied, and she alternated between kitten heels & flats.

But look at the video of her giving her speech at the convention; She walked around for quite awhile. Kitten heels, hem comes down to start of heel. But the biggy: look at how hippy she is. And that is consistent from her heavier days during bills admin.

That's what struck me about Hillary outside of Chelsea's apartment. Where were the saddlebags?

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They must be making them out of steel especially for her!

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Actually, swollen lower legs/ankles can occur because of fluid or poor blood circulation 'stocking up' the legs, and those can both disappear fairly quickly with variations in the condition(s) causing it. The feet would also be swollen, of course.

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whole scene was magnified. Oh, wait ...

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one thing I noticed about her delivery is that Hillary doesn't seem to be at all in touch with the audience. She sort of rambles over the applause lines (mostly the stuff cribbed from Bernie) without really ever acknowledging the reactions.

At first I just chalked up the disconnect to her lame speaking style, but now that you mention the green screen...

Also, can there be any better metaphor for Hillary's campaign than a virtual candidate slowly fading away?

One positive for her: at least she's becoming more transparent.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

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Gëzuar!!
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Bet it broke his heart to have to give up the Presidency and leave the White House.

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Nice ectoplasm ya got there, Dems.

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Did you see this ("Lunghazi") on Colbert?

Unexpectedly funny.

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I love cartoon Hillary. Sounds just like her with a little congestion.

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I was surprised that Colbert went there.

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In the video showing multiple camera phones wth "Hillary" walking past directly in front of them and no HRC appearing on the phones--and affecting all the phones simultaneously--how could this be done?

Let's say the green screen conspiracy theory is NOT true, then when Medusa is standing in front of the flag, issuing it's not faked, she turns directly behind her--not obliquely, but 180˚--and is waving and talking. Thus if this is not some after-effect magic, then Hillary is more demented and possibly blind than a lot of us (well, me at any rate) think: she likes to talk to walls, even if they are flag-draped.

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No idea what happens in iPhone eyes.

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of El Cid/Charlton Heston/HRC dead on a horse, coming forth from Valencia, CA, to inspire the troops to destroy the Mooks.

In Technicolor. Around November Ist.

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Younger (no wrinkles), less hippy, not as stiff or bloated, and different facial features. Good lord, did Bill off her and get himself a Stepford wife for a third term?

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