Pneumonia, heat and the "hot wobble"

As Dirty Harry was fond of saying: "Make my day".

This may seem ghoulish, Right Wing, conspiratorial (or whatever adverse terms you wish to apply) but I think HRC's ship is sinking so fast, it is going to disappear before November 8. With my defunct crystal ball, I predicted this would happen six weeks ago. Things appear to be going according to schedule.

First of all, several commentators here have said, "well, she's still sharp mentally". Then what type of political genius condemns half of her opponent's supporters, instead of the opponent himself? Brilliant! Sharp mentally? If that's proof, then some readers have set a low bar for intelligence.

Now to the stuff that really stirs my interest. In 79˚ weather, FS Clinton collapses of heat exhaustion and has to be dragged into her car, falling on her face as she enters. Then she goes to Chelsea's apartment in order to cool off. Let's take that story at face value: if she was having heat intolerance issues, why didn't she remove her jacket like most normal people would? Why didn't any of her retinue give her water to drink or fan her as they made their way to the waiting vehicle? Why didn't anybody else, including old, fat, outta shape Orangehead get heat exhaustion? Now if she had heat exhaustion, the stage preceding heat stroke, she would have been sweating profusely. Sweating stops during heat stroke. So she emerges from Chelsea's apartment looking just fit as a fiddle in neatly pressed clothing. She must have her tailor accompany her in her motorcade.

But wait, she didn't have heat exhaustion, she has pneumonia (cough, cough, wheeze) according to the Spin Club. Lo, and behold, her Doctor Bardack confirmed that just two days before FS Clinton had pneumonia and "antibiotics" were prescribed. Please Dr. Bardack tell me what organism caused the pneumonia and which antibiotic was prescribed? At the earliest a bacterial culture and antibiotic sensitivity test takes 24 hours--which would make this Saturday before the results are known. Of course, one could treat empirically, based on the evidence at hand, while awaiting the culture results--this is an acceptable practice.

Let's suppose that FS Clinton had viral pneumonia--antibiotics do not work for the vast majority of viral infections. Viral pneumonias, like bacterial pneumonias, do not resolve in 48 hours--for clarity, in case the spin doctors didn't get the message:
bacterial pneumonias, do not resolve in 48 hours

What is the usual treatment for pneumonia, whether viral or bacterial besides antibiotics? It includes hydration and rest. It does not include campaigning at Ground Zero. Now, if Dr. Bardack advised FS Clinton that she needed a period of rest (which would certainly be longer than 48 hours) and Clinton refused, would that make her "smart"?

Now, if FS Clinton did not have pneumonia, then the Medical Board of New York State should audit Dr. Bardack for unethical behavior or medical malpractice. Why unethical behavior? If Clinton had no pneumonia, then Dr. Bardack should not have said Hillary has pneumonia. Misrepresentation of a patient's health which is knowingly false is unethical.

What about HIPAA? Since Dr. Bardack was allowed by Her Heinous to speak about Hillary's health issues, HIPAA restrictions do not apply to that particular, authorized release of information.

But, to re-iterate, if Dr. Bardack REALLY thought Clinton had pneumonia and told Hillary, "it's okay to go traipsing around on your presidential campaign as much as you want to" then Bardack is guilty of Medical malpractice.

Now I will retreat back into my ghoulish, right wing, conspiratorial laboratory, waiting for the next exciting morsel of medical truth to fall off (cough, cough) Hiding Hillary.

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Shockwave's picture

Maybe Trump's doctor should examine her.

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The political revolution continues

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They will not do the correct move and slide in Sanders.

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It's either terrible bad health for Her Heinous or millions of deaths for innocent people. The Establishment party and media will push and cheat her into power otherwise.

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The two were picked because they deny a degenerative chronic condition. Everything about HRC is fabricated, from being a progressive, to working for women and minorities (where were the bills when she was a Senator?), to being wise in foreign affairs (it was 3 AM and Benghazi called and she went back to sleep), taking fire on the tarmac when she deplaned, to having this great long term love affair with The Clenis? She is a completely fabricated cartoon character.

Time for a discussion at c99, Bernie v Tim v Joe v John(Kerry)?

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Citizen Of Earth's picture

Hellery's got pneumonia and will risk spreading it to anyone because 'Ambition'. Hahaha.

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to steady her?

Looks really bad. I don't think it will fly in the age of TV and the internet.

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We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass

Is Her Heiniousness the only 68 year old woman who has not gotten the newest (for those over age 65) pneumonia vaccination, which has been around for a few years, or at least the older version.

Seriously - how long will her sycophants play this game - she won't make it to the election.

thanks Alligator Ed - prescient and almost polite -the former being the MOST important Smile

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The Alligator will correct me if I am wrong. Aspiration is another way to get it, and one cannot be inoculated from that method, I do not believe.

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WaterLily's picture

The stories about rampant pneumonia among her staff (and even poor Chuckie Schumer) are patently false.

Because she of all people should have been advised about (and received) the (infectious) pneumonia vaccine. Which means if she *has* pneumonia, it's not the infectious kind.

TPTB really do think we're stupid, don't they?

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blue lenses are commonly used to treat photosensitive epilepsy.

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But, connecting some dots: epilepsy may, in fact, be the real reason HRC hasn't driven a car in these so many years ...

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Nah Pneumonia is an excuse, just like the soviet leaders of the past who died of Pneumonia as they were "retired" from office. So many videos showing her seizures and now this excuse yet if true, she should have been to a hospital, not her daughter's apartment.

They fear the truth getting leaked by some staff at a hospital that is why they went to Chelseas' apartment, likely had Hillary's private medical doctor handle things.

For her health issues, alone she should bow out. Like a dictator, she will stay as propped up until it kills her so she can have the egotistical pleasure of hearing herself addressed as Madame President.

At the way things are going, I would prefer to refer to Dr. Jill Stein as "Madame President"

But the Clintonian ego0trip overrides legalities and democratic ideals so long as she gets "her turn".

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So long, and thanks for all the fish

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If I was on her airplane, I'd be in my doctors office, like today.

At least half a dozen senior staff members in Clinton's Brooklyn headquarters battled the illness before the Democratic presidential nominee was diagnosed with the illness on Sunday, People reported Monday.

“Everyone’s been sick,” a campaign source told the publication.

The source said pneumonia cases began popping up among Clinton's staff in late August, two weeks before the former first lady’s diagnosis. Among those affected were campaign aides who travel closely with Clinton.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/295392-clintons-p...

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No real reason except that it smacks of a desperate attempt to fabricate legitimacy for the belated excuse of "pneumonia."

See, this has always been Clinton's problem: you can't believe a fucking thing she says. If she actually does have pneumonia, she could have nipped this whole thing in the bud by announcing it up front.

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they say now. You would think an outlet like The Hill will check the facts? Of course, who would they call to verify except the crooks at Hellery HQ. So yeah, it's the Official Story, not necessarily the Official Truth.

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magazine.

Read earlier that at least one of the staffers was taken by ambulance to an ER (with the same diagnosis). Before I'd believe it, they'd have to at least have a hospital spokesperson confirm this claim. (Which may not be possible, due to privacy laws/issues.)

Yeah--just a bit 'too pat,' considering this story was trotted out a day after her collapse. Especially, since (contagious) pneumonia has supposedly been an ongoing saga amongst her Brooklyn staffers, since sometime in August.

Just heard an interview of CNN with one of her senior staffers. The story is that Robby Mook is 'still recovering himself;' the interview was ridiculous. IMO, it could only hurt her, if the Dude continues with such a lame defense of her decision not to be up front with her diagnosis on Friday.

It didn't sound like any more medical records addressing her 'overall health' would be forthcoming. Sounds as though they think they can get away with furnishing updates on her current medical episode.

I think they're grossly miscalculating.

If reports are accurate, Trump had a medical exam last week. He's supposed to release details later this week on a Fox program. (with a doctor of dubious reputation--according to the MSM) It would make more sense (IMO) to do it in a serious environment. But, I suppose he thinks it will gin up his Base, or something.

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so they had to go with something credible sounding. She may ALSO have pneumonia, but watching her body, it looked neurological.

But since they named something which could actually kill a person, I'm wondering what they are hiding which is non-medical. Just a thought. Whenever there's a distraction, it's a tell something is being hidden. Not always clear what, however. Could be more than one thing.

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about Legionnaire's disease. Again a disease that is no joke that can kill people.

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It would mean Pneumonia has been known to be racing through her campaign HQ for at least 3 weeks. Yet they continued to mingle with large crowds of people, never telling anyone of the exposure risk.

If I ended up with Pneumonia, I would sue their asses.

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and no one was hospitalized. How was it even Dxed?

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this "The office had it too" stuff. Total BS, from top to bottom.

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If multiple people around her had pneumonia, and one went to the ER and was diagnosed, then wouldn't they have realized with her coughing last Monday that she was likely also infected? Instead of claiming she was having allergies and upping her antihistamine dose, wouldn't they have said, hey, H has fallen ill with the same infectious condition that has already affected several campaign staffers. Her doctor confirmed it and she's taking antibiotics and resting for a few days." Right? Even if they didn't want to tell the public she had pneumonia, why the hell didn't they get her diagnosed and start treatment as soon as she started coughing?

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I can't say for sure, but one would think in our largest city, that health officials would be on the look out for clusters of "medical events" such as a number of people in the same location getting pneumonia. It seems like pneumonia is being treated like it is no more dangerous than the flu. Nobody thought of making or taking more precautions about the spread?

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It's not that infectious except in the elderly. really.

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She, of the "I've spent my whole life caring for women and children" claim, exposed her own grandchildren to a serious infectious disease. The youngest is only two months. So who's the worse mother? Hillary or Chelsea?

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Now to the stuff that really stirs my interest. In 79˚ weather, FS Clinton collapses of heat exhaustion and has to be dragged into her car, falling on her face as she enters.

That's hyperbole. You can see very clearly in the video her leaping into the vehicle head first to avoid the sniper fire that was raining down on them...

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sorry i still can't help it...

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHVEDq6RVXc]

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I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."

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on Sunday, who ran up to Hill and gave her a hug, modeling the little Bosnian girl on the tarmac who gave madame secretary a bouquet (under sniper fire) so many years ago. It's a pity the terrific photo op was wasted due to the seizure.

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Fun facts: Hillary Clinton (assuming she survives that long) will turn 69 on October 26. If she wins, she will become the second oldest person ever elected President. The oldest was Ronald Reagan, and Hillary would be the same age in years that Reagan was on inauguration day, though younger by roughly 8 1/2 months.

What's ironic is that in comparison to Hillary, Reagan seemed like a healthy and robust individual during his run for President in 1980. It was only after winning re-election at age 73 that the onset of dementia started to become noticeable. While it's debatable how much decision-making power he exercised even during his first term, by his second term it was obvious that Reagan had been reduced to the status of a mere figurehead.

Despite being very slightly younger, it's quite clear Hillary Clinton is much further down the path of suffering the maladies of old age than was Reagan at a comparable point in his career. Given that there was never any serious discussion about Reagan stepping aside after a single term, history shows that he was clearly not up to the job that he put himself forward for. I have zero doubt in my mind that this holds true, in spades, for Hillary Clinton as well.

#StandDownHillary

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Hillbilly Dem's picture

how about this recent clip of Bernie Sanders running to catch a train: (6 second vid)

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP_J6gmJYiU]

Just sayin'

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Then what type of political genius condemns half of her opponent's supporters, instead of the opponent himself?

Let's not forget that she pretty much declared that trump was an anomaly instead of a creation of the republican party's own making, and that the rest of the republicans are alright guys (even though they're her enemies), seriously damaging the electoral chances of down ballot democrats.

Can't say it any better than Jimmy Dore though
[video:https://youtu.be/BuTvu8rfiVg]

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Then what type of political genius condemns half of her opponent's supporters, instead of the opponent himself?

Although I guess Mitt didn't intentionally make his 47% comment public. I'm not up to date on whether Hillary's comment was intentionally made public.

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Clinton, speaking Friday night at an LGBT for Hillary gala, made the comments that Trump and his campaign slammed the next day as "insulting.”

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"To just be grossly generalistic, you can put half of Trump supporters into what I call, 'the basket of deplorables.' Right?" Clinton said to donors at the event. "Racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic, you name it. And, unfortunately, there are people like that and he has lifted them up."

She went on to say, "Now some of those folks, they are irredeemable. But they are not America."

Trump argued today that people shouldn’t run for president if they have “contempt in your heart for the American voter" or "lead this nation if you have such a low opinion for its citizens."

Edit to add: I bolded another part of her comment that is equally bad if not worse.

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Mitt comes in second

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Clinton "was alert the whole time" in the van.

AH-Hahahahahaha! Right. My favorite:

She had felt hot which a lot of other attendees also described; "as she was getting into the vehicle, she got a bit dizzy"

You mean, "as she was being shoved, unconscious and head-first, into the vehicle?"

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Umm. Her campaign guy clearly has not seen the video of her collapsing like a sack of potatoes.

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claims that she "keeps a breakneck pace."

LOL!

Maybe they should find a different adjective...

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A turtle can break it's neck, although it's not likely. Reptiles are built to be very resilient! Source

HRC has often stated that resilience is the most important trait to have. Not that anyone is comparing her to a reptile, of course.

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We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass

Hey, that schedule filled with press conferences and huge rallies sharing the stage with down ticket candidates takes a toll.

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shortly after Trump releases his records on Thursday, unless there is a concerted effort to keep it alive.

I say this because [as several folks here are pointing out] the MSM appears to be studiously 'sanitizing' the circumstances surrounding her collapse at the 9-11 Ceremony, from what I've heard today.

Almost all the pieces that I've read use adjective clarifiers--such as seemingly tripped, or almost stumbled.

And none of them acknowledge that she collapsed almost head first into the van. IOW, their words totally downplay the possible seriousness of her diagnosed medical condition.

We'll see.

Mollie


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1M people were discussing Hillary Clinton's event on Facebook.

This afternoon? Not even on the list of trending topics.

The gaslighting has indeed begun.

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Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.

No one gave her water.

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of asking for water, asking for help with her jacket. I do not understand why she is occasionally treated as a child. She is running for POTUS, she should be able to act like it. Unless, of course, she is extremely unwell. And should not be POTUS.

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Looks to me like Clinton could have mitigated this whole issue if she merely told the truth about her condition and assured people she was managing it. I read huffpost headlines saying what she has is just minor, no hey problema. But after the video of her falling, this is no problema???? Like collapsing due to an infection is no big deal? My doctor would probably have told me to check myself into a hospital immediately.

The shifting campaign explanations are creating more FUD for itself. The campaign either is a victim of its own secrecy and control issues, or they are in fact trying to hide that Clinton may have some other serious issue(s).

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WaterLily's picture

WABC News out of New York reports Hillary Clinton's death.

New essay about this up now.

I watched the clip; looks authentic, though I have no way of telling.

What the ever-loving fuck is going on?

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Add that to all the other weirdness that's been happening lately....

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This book was written in 2015 and published a year ago in Sept, 2015. That is to say before many of the symptoms H. Clinton had been noticed publicly. The information is sourced as: Interview with a close Clinton source who requested anonymity, Interview with a close Clinton friend who requested anonymity and Interview with a cardiologist who requested anonymity etc. I realize that the Clinton Gang hate Klein and do everything they can to discredit his books... but nevertheless most of the following symptoms have subsequently been confirmed as true... wherein much of H. Clinton's spin on her health has been proven to be false. Who is lying? Who is a quack?

I offer the following quotes from CHAPTER 4: INTIMATIONS OF MORTALITY

Unlikeable: The Problem with Hillary
by Edward Klein

"Blinding headaches frequently plagued her, and she constantly worried that she was developing another blood clot on her brain. There were incidents on the campaign trail when she felt faint and nearly swooned. Those incidents were kept secret."

"The last time she fainted, in 2012, she was rushed to the hospital, where doctors told her that she had a right transverse venous thrombosis, or blood clot, between her brain and skull. Her doctors informed Hillary that she had an intrinsic tendency to form blood clots, and that she had to take an anticoagulant and be carefully monitored for the rest of her life."

"Another thing that concerned her was the trembling in her hands. This had been going on for some time, but the condition seemed to be getting worse."

"Hillary was having trouble sleeping. She woke up frequently and found it hard to get back to sleep. Her insomnia worried her because it sapped her energy just when she needed it the most for the campaign."

“She is exhausted and depressed a lot of the time,” one of her friends said. “She has been offered Ambien and Lunesta by her doctors. She had taken those medications in the past, but she said they made her less sharp the next day.”

"Hillary’s uncertain health had forced her to cancel several meetings and cut back on her campaign schedule. She swore to friends that her doctors couldn’t find any definitive problem, but Bill believed she was in denial and was ignoring what could be life-threatening symptoms."

"After looking over her cardiograms and X-rays and other records, the cardiologist recommended that Hillary travel with a full-time physician who would keep her under constant observation."

"In Hillary’s case, it is very important that she be monitored on a daily basis. Her symptoms—the fainting—are very worrisome, especially for someone of her age."

"Hillary admitted to one of her best friends that she often got “dizzy” and “woozy.”

"Bill’s worst fear was that Hillary would stumble physically or fall at a critical moment in the campaign and reveal that she wasn’t up to handling the job of commander in chief."
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Today on CNN H. Clinton Hillary Clinton confirmed her husband's claim Monday that she is no stranger to dizzy spells and dehydration, but said she could recall only TWO such incidents in the past five years. CAUGHT LYING AGAIN!

Bill said today, "Former President Bill Clinton told CBS News' Charlie Rose Monday evening that the fainting episode was really not that remarkable."

The overheating was another LIE!

"Weather Underground said it was 75 degrees at the time, a day after it reached 94 when it was also extremely muggy in downtown New York City. Sunday, however, was much cooler and breezy with little of the humidity of the whole summer." (Washington Examiner and my own previously posted observations)

Whatever! At Web MD is everything you need to know about dehydration, including the simple fact that, "The foremost treatment for dehydration is prevention. Anticipate the need for increased fluid intake. Plan ahead and take extra water to all outdoor events and work where increased sweating, activity, and heat stress will increase fluid losses." and, "Ensure that older people and infants and children have adequate drinking water or fluids available." and Wear light-colored and loose-fitting clothing if you must be outdoors when it is hot outside. Carry a personal fan or mister to cool yourself.

So, WTF does she have millions of dollars, dozens of handlers and secret service personnel and access to the finest medical care in the country, and doesn't have some bottled water, wears heavy black clothing and has nothing of a personal fan... even if it was only 75 F. with low humidity.

Either her doctor is a liar or a quack... or both.

http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/dehydration-adults

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I don't know about Mr. Kleins' medical background nor his sources of information. Interesting. But I have never seen any video evidence of an upper extremity tremor. The dehydration story is of course horse droppings. She had pneumonia? Oh sure, I'll bite--NOT. She fell into her van limp as a bag of potatoes. Where was there no coughing earlier in the day from someone so indisposed by that alleged malady to have to be emergently transported to the Dr. Chelsea Clinton Hospital for Decrepit Presidential Candidates?

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Klein doesn't have a medical background. He is someone who talks anonymously (like Woodward) to anonymous sources within Hillaryland and then writes scathing books which are considered by the mainstream press to be lies, fantasy, conspiracy theories and... well you know.

So here he is reporting on conversations he had with sources... and, because they are anonymous, we have to take them with a grain of salt until they are independently confirmed.

I have heard on one of the you-tube videos that she masks tremors by taking certain simple actions. This is like one of my child relatives who has photosensitive seizures and controls them by closing one eye.

If she has dehydration episodes they would be "chronic dehydration" and any doctor worth her weight in mouse turds would make sure that she has cold water (or hydration salts like we give kids here in the poor countries)in her purse instead of hot sauce. Not to mention an AC personal fan and a remote body temperature sensor.

The pneumonia can be "true" but they just cover-up the underlying cause by not mentioning "aspiration" before the word pneumonia.

"Dehydration" like "pneumonia" could be true as far as the Ohio fit goes, but probably as a (half-truth) symptom of a hidden, underlying medical condition. Here is a link that explains aspiration pneumonia and the risk factors:

http://patient.info/doctor/aspiration-pneumonia

Risk factors for aspiration pneumonia

In the absence of a tracheo-oesophageal fistula, significant aspiration usually occurs only during periods of impaired consciousness, with reflux oesophagitis with an oesophageal stricture, or in bulbar palsy.

Impaired consciousness: drug or alcohol abuse, general anaesthesia, seizures, sedation, acute stroke, central nervous system lesions, head injury.

Poor mobility, nil by mouth, increasing age, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), male gender and increasing number of medications.

Swallowing disorders: oesophageal stricture, dysphagia, stroke, bulbar palsy, pharyngeal disease (eg, malignancy), neuromuscular disorders (eg, multiple sclerosis).

Other: tracheo-oesophageal fistula, ventilator-associated pneumonia, nasogastric feeding tube,[3] periodontal disease, gastro-oesophageal reflux,[4] post-gastrectomy, tracheostomy.

Reading further one sees that aspiration pneumonia is often treated with antibiotics. So that could also be true. Which also tells us nothing about the underlying infirmity. For example, aspiration pneumonia (which Clinton has chronically) is the leading cause of death of the poor souls who have Parkinsons.

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NEWS EXCLUSIVE
Clinton team avoided ER to conceal details of her medical treatment
By Yoav Gonen, Shawn Cohen, Tina Moore and Bruce Golding

http://nypost.com/2016/09/12/clinton-skips-out-on-emergency-room-during-...

clinton symptoms.jpg

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Does there have to be a separate Clinton version of everything?

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Alligator Ed's picture

But sometimes reality comes up and bites her in the ass.

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ThoughtfulVoter's picture

This is only my speculation...the chain of events on Sunday point to an UNEXPECTED medical episode. If indeed pneumonia was her only issue, she knew about it and could have avoided a non-critical public event. She would never have gone out in public if she was sick, because her meme is to show "perfect" health.

Because her collapse was unexpected, one has to assume it was of another etiology. She appeared to be slumped against the concrete pillar and that woman (medical personnel??), appeared to have the head bobbing as lifted into the van, and appeared to be deadweight which the guy on her right didn't realize when he sort of dropped her.

My speculation is that she has some sort of intermittent and unpredictable problem that comes up, and this is what she is trying to hid from the American voter. Hiding it under the guise of heat or pneumonia or whatever.

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