What Powell Said To Clinton in 2009 Now Public
From POLITICO
Powell advice to Clinton about email goes public
Email exchange from 2009 released by Elijah Cummings
Clinton has asked him how she can use her Blackberry in the executive suite. Powell responds:
"DS [diplomatic security] would not allow them into the secure spaces, especially up your way," Powell wrote. "When I asked why not they gave me all kinds of nonsense about how they gave out signals and could be read by spies, etc....I had numerous meetings with them. We even opened one up for them to try to explain to me why it was more dangerous than say, a remote control for one of the many tvs in the suite. Or something embedded in my shoe heel. They never satisfied me and NSA/CIA wouldn't back off. So, we just went about our business and stopped asking."
"I had an ancient version of a PDA and used it," Powell added. "In general, the suite was so sealed that it is hard to get signals in or out wirelessly."
The release also has Powell warning that messages from her Blackberry could be considered official and made public.
"There is a real danger," Powell wrote, apparently referring to the possibility of the messages becoming public. "Be very careful. I got around it all by not saying much and not using systems that captured the data."
Cummings purpose apparently was to show that Powell really did do it first and told her to do it... I don't see a neener, neener, neener, but I think I smell one.
Powell also bragged that he was adroit at slipping his security detail (no worry of that for Clinton - she hasn't driven a vehicle since the 90s).
He signed off, 'Love, Colin." Nice touch. `
Colin Powell defends personal email use
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Corruption, fabrication and lying
are now a natural fabric of our government.
Just remember, "We have to look forward".
To what I'm not sure.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Medusa got nailed by Powell
The first in her political coffin, I hope.
Powell did not have his own server.
Hillary's camp wants to focus the public on email accounts and devices, so that it seems that Hillary conducted her business much as Powell conducted his. However, the server is the far larger issue. That, and Hillary's taking two years to produce documents, handing over only what she wanted to hand over.
Some excerpts from the Thompson Timeline, http://www.thompsontimeline.com/category/clinton-email-server/timeline-l... :
Bingo!
The release of the Powell memo to Clinton is simply another way of trying to derail the public away from the issue of the private server.
In addition, Powell purposely told Clinton that everything she had on her personal device was subject to public record. IMO, he warned her NOT to do it, but she proceeded to do so anyway and further used her personal private server for government business. Once she did, everything on that server became the property of the State Department. Anything that was removed from any of her devices and from her server was the destruction of public records. I still fail to see how she and her subordinates have not been charged with the destruction of public records at the very least.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
State has not declared that ALL the emails were theirs
As to charging people, I don't know how long the statute is...
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
It was my opinion
But how could the State know which emails were subject to the State Dept. record keeping if they were unable to review them first? When Clinton mixed public business with private business on her private server, she should have lost the right to those private emails until after the State Dept. determined which emails were part of their records. It has already been shown that Clinton via her surrogates deleted emails that were subject to the State Dept.'s records keeping. It was not up to Clinton to make that determination, but it was up to the State Dept to do so.
If Clinton was the average State Dept employee, she would have already been charged under the Espionage Act. Jeffrey Sterling is sitting in prison without any proof of wrongdoing for less than what she did.
I may be misspeaking, but I am angered by our two tiered system of injustice when people like Petraeus and Clinton walk while Sterling and Kiriakou went to jail.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
I suggest 'desperate interference'
if Cummings had to release this on behalf of the Clinton Campaign.
A home-brew server is at question, not a gmail account.
And I'm sure Powell is going to be really happy, given his recent statements.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
And Powell didn't use the private email
For all his email.
And he warned her that Obama's new rules re blackberries probably made it less useful.
(I can't remember if he sent/received classified on it. But certainly not 100 pieces, including 7 top secret chains)
How the hell did Cummings get it?
The only interesting question in the whole story.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Exactly!!
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Is it me, or did things get weird
a little while ago?
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Wow!
CNN has someone from politifact on right now discussing their rating of Hillary's statement on the emails. The woman from politifact said very carefully worded, but mostly true & cuomo pressed her on it!
Double wow! They have another segment where they have David Brock on, and he's spouting the nothing burger talking points. And the guy they have on is Correcting Brock, saying no the server wasn't completely searched, no all the emails weren't turned over, the FBI found another 15,000, etc.
And then they just showed a clip of Hillary answering a question about the troops (was there a VFW or something event yesterday?) The words are OK, but there is no inflection in her voice, so she just comes across as one of those dolls where you pull the string & she says something. If you can't have some life, some passion In your voice when talking about the troops and your responsibility as CIC, then I at least interpret your words as insincere and worthless.
And we have a Powell/Bernstein interview coming up.
Who did Hillary tick off?
More: the "VFW thing" must have been the CIC forum. And the hillbots have their nose out of joint because Matt Lauer dared to start of by asking Hillary a question about the emails. Geez, Hillary could have avoided it if she'd only gave a press conference. http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/this-forum-is-a-joke-matt-lauer-ripped-o...
This shit
hurts my head. I feel like I'm privy to the secret lives of 5th graders. This is not directed at the author or anyone here. I don't give a fuck what Powell did nor should any American. If he did something illegal it should be investigated and if found guilty, prosecuted. For clinton and her minions to hide behind Powell's crooked skirt is pale beyond belief. Her defense of "Powell told me to do it" should not excuse her from investigation and public opinion. This is the sorriest excuse for a supposed leader than I could ever imagine. How anyone can defend this kind of childish, dangerous behavior is beyond me. As for this email exchange? They both ought to be in jail. They were in arguably the 2nd most powerful job in our government and were scheming on ways to hide stuff from us, the government. They were our public servants. They knew the rules and yet they schemed ways to get around them for selfish reasons. Her minions, followers, worshipers and especially the MSM need to grow the fuck up. This ain't a playground and this ain't recess.....
PS. Thank you MsGrin for all you do in bringing this corruption to light
Trusting Colin Powell... Ain't That Quaint... What is This 1999?
Powell should be completely discredited after his dog and pony show that let loose the concept of Perpetual War as American Peace.
WTF?
Powell is not a credible actor. He is a liar who, personally, delivered his own Gulf of Tonkin Resolution on the planet, and did so on his reputation as a "straight shooter". We have been at war ever since.
The idea of a Democrat relying on his reputation is something to behold.
Love the 5th grader analogy, fugwb. I totally agree. What's next?
My dog ate
my homeworkthe emails?“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
For me
it's difficult to put into words how juvenile this whole thing is. She held up her hand and said "I want to be SOS". As did powell. Once sworn in everything they do should be captured. Weddings, vacations, everything. Then when their tenure is over let unbiased heads slog through it and decide what to keep and what not to. This all goes along with holding up your hand. If you don't like it don't hold up your hand. Even if somehow her private "wedding" emails were leaked to the public what could be so damning in them if that's what they truly were?
Powell, clinton and people like them disgust me. They are lower than slime. The only ones lower than them are the ones that let them off the hook. I'm looking at you comey and lynch. How dare they think they can create their own rules when our national security and lives are at stake. And use these same rules to prosecute Americans that did far far less than what these "public servants" did....
Party like it's....
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Prince's politics were sharper than people thought.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Powell also states in that email that
security set up a personal computer for him to use for personal emails. From previous reports, HRC declined to have one set up.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
The most critical part of this distinction is he had encryption
because the system was run by folks with sufficient security training and they were able to monitor for breeches.
Pagliano looked at logs once a month if he remembered. How does ANYONE think this is in the same universe as appropriate?!
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
He still didn't have his own separate EMAIL SERVER
set up.
Fucking bullshit and lies.
TV remote != Blackberry
I don't know what Powell was smoking, but this is why you hire people who understand stuff that you don't.
The remote is just sending control signals to a tv. Probably IR (infrared). There is no EM signal to track and no information on the signal even if you could. Well voice vibrations maybe, but the IR control signal is only on for seconds at most' and trying to pick up IR signals from inside a secure internal room seems hopeless.
But the blackberry is sending out an information rich EM (electromagnetic) signal, and you could conceivably glean stuff from it if the shielding was imperfect. Sounds unlikely? There are people who have managed to remove enough randomness from the hardware noise used to generate random Internet encryption keys on servers by simply knowing the hardware configuration to break said keys. Unless you are a serious Infosec nerd, you will not understand this. The idea that you could open up the blackberry and see the problem borders on cargo-cult mysticism.
Just because you are a manager doesn't mean you understand everything.
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg