Open Thread 9-1-16: The History of Western Music
As we all know, the history of music began in 1956. However there was music before then. We've been able to figure out what it sounded like, thanks to rock carvings.
Today we'll talk about some of this pre-historic music... the Western Civ kind.
A lute, a flute and ...
There once was a man named Praetorius
Whose music was joyous and glorious
He said with a grin....no, wait, that's not right.
Well, never mind that.
Michael Praetorius was born in 1571 in Germany, in an area where the Greens are popular now. So much for political references!
He started out knowing nothing, then went to school and learned something. Divinity, philosophy, music. That's good stuff to know. And then we have the stories about music he wrote, using only a lute, a flute and some pots and pans from the kitchen with instructions to make a big banging noise.
This was around the time Shakespeare was writing "The Tempest".
Here's another fellow from the same time, Claudio Monteverdi
That art in the video looks like the Venus on the Halfshell guy did it. Yep, Botticelli, who died about 100 years before Praetorius and Monteverdi were doing their thing.
Anyway, Monteverdi was this hipster who wrote madrigals, which were a certain type of non-Churchy song. When Monteverdi got old (my age) he became a priest so I guess that was it for his hipsterism. Here's a picture of him shortly before he played Dr. Gillespie on the TV show "Dr. Kildare".
Oh, here's some lute music from before and also around the same time.
This material is nice and all but it shows why Little Richard had to invent music in the 1950s.
You probably know the 17th century dudes wrote for the pleasure of the church and the nobility. It was like the corporations of today. I saw this Adam Sandler documentary where he was doing his comic routine at a major company meeting, with James Taylor doing the music. Disgusting as it seems to us, that's what the norm was for this stuff way back then. There were the troubadors going from town to town playing their ballads for the 99%, or "the people" as they used to be called, but they didn't get recorded as much as Praetorius or Monteverdi...probably because the recording studios back then were really expensive.
Which reminds me, I recommend "1066 And All That" if you want some good European history.
Back to the tunes...sixty years later we come to Arky Corelli. I assume that means he was from Arkansas. That's a common nickname for someone from there.
Now we're getting to that Baroque sound that was so popular. Check out his picture.
What a hippie! It's funny that some good music came out of the South from hippies or beat groups. You've got this hippie, Corelli, from Arkansas and the Gants, from Mississippi (mid-1960s).
Corelli was born in the middle of the 17th century and came into his prime in the 1680s, a time that will be the focus of the next history treatise. 1685, when three of the greatest were born. That's really where we'll start, simply because I know something about it (unlike the three composers I've spotlighted here!).
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The news is not news, it's propaganda and distraction. These, the c99 OTs, coming to you daily, are the real thing, the real reality.
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My mTBI and added SAD are doing multiple head-tricks to me. I am actually nearly praying that the hurricane tracks more inland into NY giving us rain this last long gasp weekend of the summer. We are in severe drought here, farmers who bought crop insurance get a payoff. Not much, but it buffers.
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Old time music
Better than it sounds!
Here's some early American musicians.
From 1893
Thanks for the Eurocentric music history.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Great shots Lookout. Would give anything to hear what music
was coming out his instrument. Imagine it would be something like the Chinese play, the lovely one-stringed instrument also bowed. Have heard it in Chinatown, and in Central Park, and always stop mesmerized. Ethereal, note-bending beauty - on one string.
Wonder if there actually was, at the location at which those frontiersmen made their cabin, played music and enjoyed the wild woodland.
Without hesitation, "After The Goldrush" would be a desert island disc for me.
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
I can imagine what that sounded like!
It's difficult, I found in the last couple of days, to find good examples of older music other than the usual.
Well, the top instrument appears to be a Native American
instrument that has a close cousin in the African American musical armory known as the diddley bow. Some have made and played them and recorded the output in modern times, or one can simply skip ahead to the Bo Diddley and enjoy that instead.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
And here I thought music dated from 1953 when Crazy Man Crazy
became the first RocknRoll song to make the national Top 20...good old Bill Haley...
Or maybe music began in the early 1940s when Thelonious Monk and Dizzy Gillespie and Kenny Clark and Charlie Parker laid the foundations of Bebop. (klook-a-mop)
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
or even earlier with Louis Armstrong et al
the real jazz, when it was dance music, not a mish-mash of notes.
I'm feeling a little screwed up today.
I need to try to get a clinician again. Unfortunately, I live miles outside of town. There are no buses to the facility I live in, so the only way into town is by taxi. The only taxi company in Pueblo gets mobbed by people on the first of the month, which is when a lot of people get checks.
I once waited on the phone just to get a guy from the cab company to respond to me, and tell me that a cab was coming. Not only was the cab very late, after I went into town, I had to call in for another cab ride back, and I waited an hour and a half.
I guess I'll call health solutions again and try to set something up. I've had 16 clinicians now, I think. That number might be off, but its close.
I desperately need a clinician now. Part of the problem is that I don't have a phone. There is one phone that residents in this assisted living facility use, and people can't easily contact me. If someone calls the front office looking for me, they don't get me. They can only leave a message.
Its getting harder and harder for me to connect with anybody in authority. Sometimes I just do without things because I can't deal with the mess anymore.
Posting information like that kind of gets me shunned over at kos. I hope its ok here.
martianexp: go right ahead and post. That's one of the
good/21st century deals about this social technology and its blogs. People can reach out to each other for help and help out. Back to the diary....a lot of great Russian classical music like Tchaikovsky's was written cos he got paid for it. He was a gay guy who had to stay in the closet BIG-TIME, and suffered greatly for it. REC'D!!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
I thought you meant a different kind of western music
Fun, breezy jaunt thru lutes and madrigals. Little Richard...
Heh. So many of us (musicians and rock fans) think along these lines I'm seeing. That when it comes down to it, King Richard probably doesn't get the kind of exultation he deserves for just what he means as the singular force at the advent of rock n roll, imo our single greatest export to the world. Good golly...
Bass player I play with says every town should have a statue of Little Richard in it. I think he's right. Doesn't it bug you too to see in almost every small town in this country the ubiquitous hunk of granite dedicated to some Armed Forces venture somewhere (I have a friend in Berlin, NY where the pop. is 2800, yet they have a war monument...)? As I always say, when you go to Europe the names of scientists, poets, musicians and authors grace their town squares, street names, etc. The two political parties we are told we can vote for had their conventions in places called the Wells Fargo Arena and the Quicken Loans Arena. WtFF? Are we really entering a reality satirized in Idiocracy? Seems too bizarrely true right now.
Will check out the music later. Just finished cleaning the place while the baby slept. The Ipod shuffle has been fun in the background. Loaded it up with 26k songs (160 gigs, an Ipod Classic I'm told - whatever), which was possible from the days when I worked at Billboard Magazine and cd's were the new big thing. I have a ton, and made that mistake encouraged by that melted industry, to pursue digital instead of analog vinyl. Still have a good bit of records, though the heart of my collection was stolen. I've been replacing the classics here and there. Just having vinyl around the house imbues the place with the right kind of vibe, like the aroma of good home cooking. Have a wall of cd's. Not sure, if I should just pack up and put in books with the covers, or what. Just seems so weird, where the world of music, radio, record collections have gone today. Young folks seem to just be on Spotify and Pandora, hardly buying any music at all and listening to it on their phones. After 30 years nobody buys cd's anymore, and vinyl albums are now going for double the price of them, which was the opposite back then. Strange days indeed, most peculiar mama.
One of the tunes that came up was by a Brazilian artist Seu George doing a Portuguese version of Bowie's "Starman." Which got me thinking of the difference in how the candidates have been couched in music. While I don't think Bernie is a Bowie fan (recall someone asking him if he had a comment on his death and he claimed not to know much about him) the tune, I thought, really captured the zeitgeist of the movement. The other two are so fucking cheesy and like you find with wealthy spoiled people, they don't have an artistic bone to speak of. They may have collections of incredible art, libations, etc, but none of it of their own accord. Hire lackeys to locate it and bring it back to be hoarded so they can brag to their criminal financial terrorist friends that they've got the best this and that. $hills is a soulless, stilted Stepford Disney cornball who aligns with Katy Perry, while the Goon is that typical slimeball promoter who doesn't pay bands but takes their music (hey, whatayagunnado? Sue me) and predictably clips the most played out of classic rock, with some more suited to a pole dance at a strip club.
Thanks as always for the humor, history and good vibes. One of these days we've got to organize a national C99 Meetup. And jam too!
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
26,000 tunes on your iPod! Wow!
I've only got about 450 on mine. Nice to know the possibilities are so great. We're going to load up shaz' new iPod. I think she'll like it.
Somewhere I have an antique MP3 player by Sandisk, a refurb
with a ton of memory and several tons of songs but a sadly limited battery life. However, I just upgraded my android phone and have the old one laying around, de-activated, with all that memory *and* battery ...
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Ahh, as my music professor from engineering school
would say, "Western Art Music"...
Rock on, Professor Shickele!
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Thanks for the music, art and
history. I like the classic old masters in music and visual art all the way back to the Greeks. I wish we could hear the ancient music that Pan played but unlike stone, murals and clay the tunes of that day are somewhere in the air.
My parents had some classical music but it was cornball American 'classical' like the Grand Canyon suite. I was in my twenties when I first heard the big time old masters of western music. What came before the biggies like Bach, Mozart or the long haired famous guys is floating somewhere in the air also. I bet that the dirges and chants from the early Church are so heavy they never left the ground. Glad you started your history with secular music that people must have danced to.
Here's a secular pop composer musician from the 1200's. It figures he was from Mediterranean France as they were not as Gothic and Dark.
Le Jeu de Robin et Marion
Marion's song
Here's a pop tune by Yanus Emre from the 13 century that is not western but Turkish. I don't think it's secular but it's catchy and lively.
Written by Yunus Emre, he is the first mystical popular poet of Turkish tradition. He was born in Central Anatolia in the mid-13th century and died in the first half of the 14th. The use of Turkish indicates his rural origin; at a time where in the cities of Anatolia Arabic and Persian were current languages of literature and science. Yunus Emre was the first important poet to make literary use of his mother tongue.
this is very
informative. And I have a question that I know you can probably answer.
You know how in the English, originally, there were no spaces between the words, or any punctuation at all, and so all the letters just all flowed together, and you were left to puzzle it out as best you could?
Well, in the music, isn't it true that, before "Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On," all the notes of all the songs, they all ran together, too?
yes, that's true
before, all notes ran together, as you mention. Haha...I almost said "as you noted"! whooo!
to prevent the constant collisions, musicians of yore created boxes to keep the notes separated
do the notes
want to be in the boxes? Or would they rather be Free?
Has there ever been a Vote, of the notes, about the boxes?
do fish want to be in tanks?
I imagine them thinking, as they swim, "where am I-eeeeeee???"
But perhaps there are different strokes for different fish that might rhyme with "strokes". Maybe some like it. I think it could be like that for musical notes. Some like those collisions, like in free-form jazz. Some probably like being in boxes.
Back in the 30s (?) people sat on telephone poles. If you picture a city street full of people on the tops of all the different poles you can understand why the sitters wouldn't want more than one on a pole. I think some musical notes are like that.
most of the fish
are in oceans and seas and rivers and lakes and ponds and streams.
Some of the notes I know, they feel oppressed by the numbers. They don't like to be boxed in as just fifths, or sevenths, or whatnot.
Then there are the notes that want to be in the key of, say, M.
If a note on one of those phone poles, it fell off, and hit on the head a person walking by, what sort of sound would it make?
Also, would it have to go to the Jail?
you raise many excellent points here
in a future essay in this series I'll be talking about how JS Bach drank a lot of coffee which allowed him to invent modulation. This technique allowed 6ths to be 2nds and confused many listeners back in the day. "How can this be? Gadzooks!" (or perhaps "Gadzuchens!") The notes themselves, I would think, enjoyed this.
i would like
to read about 6ths being 2nds.
Also, didn't Bach have, like, 113 children?
Where did he find the time? Did he have the sex, and the music, simultaneously? Maybe that's how he could get the 6ths, to be 2nds.
Maybe you could also write about the notes who ran off and hid in the Caves, so they wouldn't be murdered by Ethel Merman.
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"Fish are animalized water"...Gregory Corso
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
Best thoughts for those in the path of Hurricane Hermine /nt
Beware the bullshit factories.
here is the music
the sun makes.
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That music the sun plays is
impressive and much more entertaining and alive then the dead dead electronica that keeps coming through the air waves we have created in it's image.
Well, I finally got here to this most exquisite essay, and find
not only a great essay but a rec for some Will Cuppy. Sadly, it is an inadequate rec, since it only mentions 1066 and All That instead of telling people to also read The Decline & Fall of Practically Everybody. Fabulous work all the same.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
edited as it was incomplete had to locate my video
EL, I have not read either
of these books but if you and Shah both recommend them I need to read. We have 1066 downstairs in the book case but I have avoided it as I thought it drive me to more despair. I agree a gem of an OT as our yours.
Another musical blast from the past. Ou est le gateau?