Again the Democratic Party Rejects progressives. Chooses DWS.

Well, the primary election has completed here in Florida last night, and as suspected, every progressive candidate in the state that was challenging the Corpocratic Party incumbents were soundly defeated.

This makes my #DemExit now completely justified (as if it wasn't before).

Those "Liberals" in the democratic party will have no ability to shame me for not supporting their candidate because I am no longer in their corrupt little social club as of today. (Decided to wait for filing my party switch to after the Florida primary, but now realized I may as well of not even bothered to wait.)

Progressives, real Progressives, have no more business caucusing with the Democrats than they do the Republicans.

Neither party gives a flaming bag of dog poo about progressivisim outside of paying enough lip service to it to keep the dirty hippies in line...

The Democratic Party is Anti-Democratic, Anti-Progressive and Anti-99%.

I have seen it's evil, and will in no way at all be complicit in it anymore.

Here is a link to the Florida Primary Results if you are interested.

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Shahryar's picture

then I can't be bothered to believe in "Our Revolution".

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and it starts, "My preferred candidate lost last night, by a country mile. Or did he?"

I simply do not trust elections in this country, especially in Florida.

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hellinahandcart's picture

for "especially in Florida." I don't trust Ohio as far as I can throw it, either.
And So. Carolina? They stay on permanently rigged status.

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reorganized itself as a 501 (c) (3), is that right?, just at the time when Canova was asking for help with his campaign. They just couldn't wait for two weeks or so. A number of people at Our Revolution quit in protest; I think they were interviewed at Democracy Now.

Ms. "I don't get protested" will be back in Congress, and Our Revolution is tainted before it even gets off the ground. At least now we know who were the likely corporate Dem. plants in the Sanders campaign.

Add Canova and Greyson to the list of good and capable people who have been disrespected this year by the Democratic Party. Adm. Joe Sestack. Rep. Donna Edwards. An so on.

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Mary Bennett

TheOtherMaven's picture

The differences are subtle, but real.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

That is a district that was jerrymandered for Shultz. Bernie never did well there, either. I didn't get my hopes up over Canova.

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Shahryar's picture

the sequence of events went like this:
emails confirm Debbie was cheating for Hillary
Debbie ousted as head of DNC to avoid howls at the convention
Debbie immediately hired by Hillary for campaign

this put Debbie under Hillary's protection, a la the mob. Bernie, for whatever reason, going all "fear Trump! Never mind what I said about Hillary who, by the way, agrees with me about everything that's important", knowing that Debbie is protected, can't go all in for Canova because that would imply Hillary is something less than perfect.

As we've all seen, there are places where you can't suggest that Hillary has any flaws. Bernie became part of that, to where he's become irrelevant.

Short version: Bernie would seem to be anti-Hillary and that's just not allowed!

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Amanda Matthews's picture

'safe' district' and that Canova couldn't win anyway. And Grayson and his 'divorce' didn't help any. Personally I began to think of him as quite the creep.

I gotta laugh. People are blaming Sanders when the only people responsible are in Florida. If the vote was rigged, that's the DNC in Florida. If he lost fair and square, Canova lost because he didn't draw enough voters. That's on him. NO ONE ELSE.

FROM THE MIAMI NEW TIMES BACK IN THE MIDDLE OF APRIL:

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Dear Bernie Bros: Trying to Defeat Debbie Wasserman Schultz Is Just Plain Stupid

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This argument is about the fact that Canova has very little shot of beating Wasserman Schutz, and given the enormous number of other, more realistic opportunities for progressives to make a statement in Florida during this election cycle, spending time and money on Canova's windmill chase seems pointless.

This is about the kind of electoral common sense anyone with half a poli-sci degree could give you.

Let's look at the facts:

1. Hillary Clinton won 72 percent of the primary vote in Broward and almost 75 percent of the primary vote in Miami-Dade. There aren't exactly a lot of people down here who were feeling the Bern, and it's unlikely that a candidate who has so closely aligned himself with Sanders will catch on in the district.

2. DWS is an expert fundraiser with lots of favors to call in and deep connections in her district. She has a solid record on the issues that people in her district care about most and has already been endorsed by President Obama. There's been no public polling of the race so far (and likely won't be much), but there's not much indication Democrats in her districts are particularly itching to kick her out. Everyone hates Congress but loves their congresswoman after all.

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The targeting of Wasserman Schultz seems petty. It seems more about payback than political reality. It seems, at times, misogynistic. It seems, frankly, like something the Tea Party would pull. It seems like the kind of thing a mature netroots movement should be above.

If you're serious about sending a strong progressive message that could truly shake up politics in Florida, there are much better ways to do it.

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/dear-bernie-bros-trying-to-defeat-debb...

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

condescending jackass. Neither his arguments nor his conclusions are of interest to me, given that:

A. I disagree with him fundamentally

and

B. I don't like being condescended to by people who haven't got the necessary intellectual firepower.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

which is an HRC 2016 invention/talking point, needn't bother giving me advice.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Right at the top.

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Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

or, perhaps more pertinently, who are they actually writing to? Because it's not us.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

lunachickie's picture

The targeting of Wasserman Schultz seems petty.

This statement drips with irony. Not to mention arrogance and cluelessness. ...

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

Citizen Of Earth's picture

Perfect concession . Hahahaha.

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Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.

hellinahandcart's picture

I like him even more than I did before. Wish I could've voted for him.

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About this today.

Not good sportsmanship, but I can't disagree with Tim's assessment.

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Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Citizen Of Earth's picture

People will interpret this differently depending on what you think happened to Bernie. But there it is...

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Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.

Benny's picture

I donated via Bernie then another time via Canova's website. My e-mail became a spiggot for constant begging for money, sometimes 2-3 times a day. I finally had to tell the campaign's digital outreach (via an e-mail) they needed a message, not just money. It's not the way to run a campaign. I don't want to hear they need a lot of money, especially as he sent Bernie's professionals home after 2 weeks.

Bernie's wife, Jane, tweeted on Canova's behalf and a few others. He had more money than most candidates running who were virtually unknown. Jordan and Canova can't blame it on Bernie.

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One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will. To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.--Tennyson

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

Maybe it didn't resonate with that district, maybe he ran out of money, maybe it was rigged. I can't say, although it's hard to imagine Hillary's BFF's job being left to something as chancy as the voters' will.

His message was an anti-corruption message. Which resonates really well in most places, but might not resonate so well in a place filled with upper middle class. Most of the people in my class don't appear to understand that we're next. Dumbasses.

As for Bernie, his no-show is not helpful. But much less helpful is how his campaign proved that primary challenges to the Clinton machine can't work because of unchallenged election fraud. The fraud was so blatant most people could see it. Good luck trying to convince a majority of them to go to the polls and try to unseat Clintonites through primaries now.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

been propagandized that liberals lose general elections to Republicans. So, if voters in Democratic primaries hope to defeat Republicans in the general, they'd best defeat liberals in primaries. Early on in the primary, when I approached people about Sanders, I heard "I love Bernie, but...McGovern..." again and again. (And Democrats accuse Republican voters of voting against what they really want and need!)

In addition, the DNC and Democratic stumping stars support incumbents (who are almost all centrists now) and centrists in primaries and Democratic officeholders endorse centrists, too. Finally, we can't discount "irregularities" at the polls in at least some towns and cities.

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... has worked particularly well among the older folk who remember McGovern. It's a hard argument to knock down. At a time when we need to be more courageous to reverse the trendline started in 1972 with Nixxon, then Raygun, too many people think they can escape riding the status quo.

I wish I knew how to reach these people with a series of short, targeted messages that essentially say "status quo is unsustainable".

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Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

so they had to spin spin spin Obama's win, emphasizing the fact that he actually is a centrist (true) while ignoring the fact that he ran left of Clinton as well as left of McCain.

The people who don't know at this point are the people who don't want to know.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Factually, it's bs. However, any message that has been drummed in over 40 years with little to no push back is hard to dislodge. Fortunately, I had prepared and did manage to swing some of those people to Sanders with facts.

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Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

it's really REALLY annoying to have my political future controlled by a trauma that happened to my parents' generation when I was 4 years old.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

... up to now, it's been the reliability of the older vote vs the unreliability of the younger vote. I'm really, really hoping that younger people stay woke now that we boomers are shuffling off stage.

I will say the Vietnam-Nixon trauma of that generation was pretty deep. Probably even deeper than what's going on right now, if you can believe it.

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Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

Sorry, fred, my response to you turned into a rant, which wasn't really directed at you! Apparently I've been frustrated for some time, and didn't realize it. I've removed it from here, because it would be better as a diary.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

looking forward to the redux.

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lotlizard's picture

And at least half the country and media voices backing the government and saying we had it coming?

That was traumatic and radicalized many people who up till then might have trusted the government and/or considered themselves apolitical.

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... and over the PA comes ...

tin soldiers and Nixon's coming
we're finally on our own
this summer i hear the drumming
four dead in o-hi-o

it never really ends.

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