an example of what a non-Clinton dem would be up against in the primaries.
Remember: the media keeps telling us that Trump is polling at 2% with African-American voters. 2%! His Hispanic numbers aren't nearly as bad, but from what I've seen, Hillary has a significant lead. Just found: Hillary has a 50 point lead with people of color.
Yet, we find this headline in the Washington Post: Pro-Clinton Super Pac to invest in ground operations to mobilize people of color.
The article starts out OK, setting aside our opposition to Super Pacs:
Priorities USA Action, the super PAC that has helped Hillary Clinton dominate the airwaves with political ads, will put up money to bolster the work of some grass-roots political groups to mobilize Latino, Asian American and black voters in several swing states.
priorities USA is one of the Hillary campaign's super pacs. For 2016 it has raised over $100M and spent over $70M. We know that as a Super Pac it isn't supposed to coordinate with the Hillary campaign, but when you have Jennifer Granholm, former gov. Of Michigan and noted Hillary supporter/surrogate, Ann Caprara from Emily's list, we know who they supported, and Paul Bagala, from Bill's White House, on the board and/or advising, who needs coordinating.
The super PAC has pledged $3.5 million to the Center for Community Change Action and Immigrant Voters Win, which is focused on boosting turnout among Latino and Asian Americans in Florida, Nevada and Colorado. A third group, BlackPAC, will focus on millennials and hopes to maintain the historically high level of turnout among African American voters during the past two presidential elections.
Wow! priorities USA isn't doing the work. they're contracting it out. Who's going to benefit from that?
Center for Community Change Action executives, etc. http://www.cccaction.org/our-story/people/staff/#team3
Can't find a web page for Immigrant Voters Win, but hey! Here's a ny times article saying that it's a $15M organization specifically formed for this election and funded by our good buddy, George Soros. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/10/us/politics/george-soros-and-other-lib...
I can't find Anything on Black Pac, but it's executive director is quoted in the article:
[Adrienne] Shropshire said BlackPAC, a new group, will initially focus on voters in Florida, with plans to expand to other battleground states, using both face-to-face contact and a national digital strategy.
Looks to me like one hell of a lot of political patronage jobs. Compare it to what we know of Bernie's campaign organization & volunteers.
You have to wonder, with all the money that Hillary's campaign committee spent on the primaries and now the general, what priorities USA is spending, what ctr is spending, and I'm sure there are more entities out there, exactly what is each vote for Hillary costing her? And as I once commented, Hillary has a payroll to meet, just like SMU football. And just like SMU football, that payroll is expected to produce.
WaPost article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/08/29/pro-clin...
more on priorities USA:
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00495861
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/08/29/pro-clin...
Comments
Back to pro football. At least, it is precisely what it is.
Fantasy BS w/a little territorial violence thrown in. A free valium. Works for me.
Just thinking about the 2 POTUS pieces of garbage running makes me want to retch. REC'D!!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
Here's a troubling story
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/30/86203/
As the dots start connecting the worse it looks
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Good Example Of Why Our Revolution Is A Scam
It's just another Dem money vacuum but lulling progressives into a false sense of affinity. Good link.
Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.
looks like "our revolution" is an effort to
raise money for candidates the "revolutionary's leaders" have accepted as their future representatives ...
https://www.euronews.com/live
I thought part of the reason
Claire sandberg et al left our revolution was because the way it is structured it can't raise money for candidates. (Although that hasn't stopped them from sending fund raising emails where the link goes to another fund.)
What troubles me about the negative comments re bernie, our revolution, etc is what else are the complainers doing? Hopefully something more constructive than bitching on the Internet.
For example, don't like or? Have you considered bnc? Are you independently supporting other candidates, of whatever party, that you prefer?
I have no intentions to donate more to OR until I know more. The board members were announced yesterday, which is a start. But that won't stop me from taking part in the anti TPP events it has planned, such as the call your rep day on 9/14. I won't donate to any of the 4 senatorial candidates Bernie sent an email about tomorrow, but I have donated directly to Tim canova (fingers crossed for today) & zephyr teachout (whose latest poll has her training 46-41. That's doable, especially with phone banking help). I never would have known or gotten involved with these 2 campaigns but for getting involved with Bernie's campaign. That's a positive , and Bernie deserves credit for it.
Thanks
Not to go all CT and such, it definitely appears as if the whole country
has been hijacked into the DLC, while Bernie was the man, again like
with BHO it was all a hoax, a very well scripted hoax.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
seems you go all CT ...
it's BS and I have the feeling some people here want to tease out who of the readers here are falling for it.
I start to not like it here anymore. Sigh. Here goes the neighborhood?
https://www.euronews.com/live
Is this the village you speak of?
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/it_takes_a_ruling-class_village_to_s...
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Forget about it, I am just mad and don't know
exactly why.
What I can't understand is why we get already money begging emails from Bernie Sanders. I guess he is speaking for "Our Revolution" to support some candidates. I see nothing "revolutionary" in that approach.
I think the team there underestimates the people's disappointment and sometimes disgust about what has happened during the primaries and the democratic convention. The transition from the Sanders presidential primary campaign to this "our revolution.com" fundraising is just too much for me to swallow.
Never mind what other candidates do, like HRC.
I feel disengaged and estranged from Sanders activities right now. I am feel like "Enough is enough".
https://www.euronews.com/live
No worries
It's been a long frustrating journey for most of us.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
I don't at all agree that Bernie was a Trojan Horse.
I agree with you about OR, and Bernie post-, say, mid-June.
We know what a Trojan horse looks like. Watch the media and how they react. That's the easiest way to tell how a given political undertaking relates to the powers that be.
Compare the way the media reacted to Barack Obama--whom we now know to have been a Trojan horse--to how they reacted to Bernie.
Now compare the way the media reacted to the Occupy movement--whom we know NOT to have been a Trojan horse--to how they reacted to Bernie.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I agree that OR is, at best,
an ill-advised waste of time, but I'd like to put a word in here for doublechecking data--because it looks like the counterpunch article was wrong. Still digging, but haven't yet found any evidence that OR sponsored that event. It appears, so far, to be an event sponsored by a different group of Bernie supporters who apparently have confused the word "progressive" with the word "Democrat."
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I wouldn't put too much faith in that little hit piece
I know people that live in that district that are definitely not pretend progressives, and would vote Green, but they think that Funiciello is a pompous fake.
It probably doesn't help that he didn't commit to running until almost April of this year. That's pretty half-assed, and doesn't help with his image as being half-assed.
Half ass here and there
But regardless shouldn't his voice be heard and having that turncoat
republican be accepted should be more of warning shot across the
progressive bow.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Not really a question of his qualifications/personality.
The problem is inviting Derrick, or hosting an event for him, if that was actually done. I haven't been able to find any confirmation that OR actually ran this event. Still looking. (No offense intended to Eye of Round, but I'd like to do some digging, so I am.)
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
"No offense intended... '
and none taken! (See my comment upthread)
Hmmm.
A bit of Googling discredits your comment. Funiciello first announced he would run in 2016 on election night 2014 -- two years ago. He formalized that announcement in conjunction with a Green Gala on March 12, 2016.
discredits...hardly
That mouth full of gibberish he uttered is why so many don't take him seriously.
He was certainly less committal in the months leading up to his 'official' announcement, and that's well documented both in local press and among people I know that live in that community.
I believe the word used should be 'political gadfly'.
If he was serious about winning, he wouldn't let the opposition have a 6 month head start.
Beat me to it. Our Revolution my ass.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK | "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine." - G. B. Shaw Bernie/Tulsi 2020
Her heinous isn't helping downstream either
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-08-29/clinton-tries-to-s...
In a speech on Aug. 25 that flayed the Republican nominee as an outlier channeling the views of white supremacists and courting the "fringe element" of his party, Clinton invoked the names of former President George W. Bush, House Speaker Paul Ryan, Arizona Senator John McCain and former Senator Bob Dole, the 1996 Republican nominee, to set up the contrast with Trump.
Republicans who've already voiced their opposition to Trump welcomed having the Democratic presidential nominee make their argument—that he doesn't represent the party or mainstream conservatism.
"I'm glad that even Hillary Clinton recognizes that this isn't our whole party," Katie Packer, a former adviser to Mitt Romney's 2012 campaign, wrote on Twitter. "This is strong," Republican strategist Ana Navarro said of Clinton's praise for past Republican nominees. "It's easily the best speech of any candidate this year," Tony Fratto, a former spokesman for Bush, tweeted.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
I'm still digging, but it looks like OR
did not sponsor or run that event. That was another group of Bernie supporters who apparently can't tell a progressive from a Democrat. So far, it looks like the Counterpunch article was wrong.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
OK, some research needs to be done
to verify that story, because, if true, it basically answers all questions about Our Revolution.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Here's some research to start with
http://www.derrickforcongress.com/ncpr_ny21_derrick_s_foreign_policy_vie...
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
That link is weird.
Check it out.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
mea culpa
Looks like I got it wrong.
Counterpunch had always been pretty good before this, I guess my
guard needs to set higher.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
This was not an Our Revolution event
it was sponsored by a group called Progressive Revolution who define themselves as Bernie followers.
The Counterpunch article repeatedly and incorrectly calls the sponsor "Our Revolution" and links it to Bernie
This is misrepresentation, intended to smear Bernie's Our Revolution and, I guess, to support Funiciello. It's counterproductive on both counts, imo.
I live in NY 21 and I will vote for Matt Funiciello, despite differences, because the other 2 candidates--one a Koch brothers funded Repub and the other a corporate Dem--are so awful.
That's the sort of thing I wanted to do research on.
Now that we don't have a press, and people are filling in as they can, more or less without training, it's a good idea to doublecheck things.
Too often, I don't.
So this time, I will.
Because this one is important.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
++
Go for it, CStS!
Hmmph. Are we going to have to have a fact check/
debunking squad here at C99? Because I agree, in general, that OR is a wash and that Bernie is basically compromised (which makes me sad rather than angry). So I'd be totally inclined to agree with the Counterpunch article--but it looks like it's not actually true.
It doesn't look to me like a "hit piece," but rather a careless effort by somebody who had my same ideas about OR, and a much worse opinion of Bernie than I do, who saw something that appeared to confirm those ideas, and grabbed it without checking to see if it really was what they thought it was.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
.
I called it a 'hit piece' because the effect of the piece was to discredit OR based on false assertions/implications.
If people distrust OR, I get that, but that piece stinks of the type of well-timed smear that's so effective when people are angry and hurt and willing to accept information that supports their feelings.
I've become used to reading shit like that, usually on facebook, and usually with the strong suspicion of Brockian meddling.
Sorry I got it wrong then
I've always had good luck with counterpunch up until this.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Truly, no need to apologize,
gg. I've read good stuff at counterpunch, too, and what with all of the stuff available on the intertubes--good as well as bad--, we're all on a learning curve!
I'm pretty sure this story isn't accurate--
I'll let you know when I've finished digging around, but so far, no evidence that OR was involved.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Just like the good ol' days at Tammany Hall. Well oiled
machinery makes for greasy palms.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Either it's straight up nepotism/patronage/money game
and the goals are incidental (like it is with the Clinton Foundation), or they really are concerned about turnout.
They need to be able to show crowds of POC on TV, going to the polls.
Whatever--if Obama puts our national elections under the control of the Department of Homeland Security, all of this will be permanently moot.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Actually, I take it back--
optics are always going to be important for the PTB, and they need voter turnout for good optics.
Though I suppose once they've got some good footage, they could just recycle it, the way they used Hollywood stock footage to advertise the first Gulf War.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
If you want to know what a non-Clinton Dem would be
up against in a primary, just watch Grayson's campaign. A million-dollar ad buy taken out against him by the DNC. Which reminds me, gotta go vote for him today. Possibly my last vote as a Democrat!
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver