Hillary Clinton's Neuropathology--Hillary IS LOSING HER MIND--literally

Wow! Wow! The release of Dr. Bardack's medical assessment of Clinton is devastating to her. There is no way she can weasel her way out of this. Medically, this is "Put Up or Shut Up"

First, I will repeat my disclaimers from the Right Frontal Lobe Epilepsy essay.
1. I am no fan Of Medusa
2. I admitted to some speculation
3. Since the speculation was necessitated by lack of verifiable medical records, I urged that it was necessary for her medical records to be released.
4. I couldn't help myself: "I told ya so!"

Next, I shall enter the contents of Dr. Bardack's February 5, 2014 medical record, which is not comprehensive but is certainly helpful, after which I will translate from medicalese into English.

Present complaint: blacking out for short periods of time, uncontrollable twitching, memory loss, fatigue.

Interim Medical History:
Patient returns stating that she is still having complications following a concussion in December of 2012. She states the blacking out, uncontrollable twitching and memory loss have become worse over the last few months. Patient has been diagnosed with having complex partial seizures in early 2013 and was diagnosed with having early onset Subcortical vascular Dementia in mind 2013.

Medical Examination:
Patient shows signs of advancing Subcortical Vascular dementia after a MMSE was performed. The patient scored significantly worse than when tested in 2013. Patient is also showing signs of having more frequent complex partial seizures.

Diagnoses:
Complex partial seizures
Subcortical vascular dementia

Impression/Plan:
I discussed with the patient at length about the alternatives and we elected to maintain her on the present medications with only increasing her medication for the seizures. I have ordered another MRI to be performed and will schedule another office visit after the test is performed.

Lisa R. Bardack, M.D.

Translation:
1. Blacking out for short periods of time could represent:
A. amnesia during complex partial seizure (CPS)
B. sensory overload due to excessive attentional demands
C. both of the above

2. Uncontrollable twitching could represent:
A. sequelae of mTBI-induced upper brainstem injury
B. manifestation of CPS
C. medication side-effects
D. all of the above

3. Memory loss in her case is most likely multifactorial
A. Concussion-induced memory deficit (e.g., temporal lobe)
B. Subcortical Vascular dementia (SVD), also known as Binswanger's disease
C. Sensory overload, which is a common affection after mTBI
D. Medication effect

4. Complex Partial Seizures (CPS)
A form of epilepsy about which I wrote extensively in the first of the series concerning Hillary's neuropathology. For those who may not recall, "partial" means no loss of consciousness--which is different than loss of appropriate environmental responses. "Complex" means the involvement of more than one isolated neurological sign.

5. MMSE
Known as Folstein's MiniMental Status examination. This test has high validity, meaning replicability. It has bee widely used (I have performed thousands of these). The problem is that the test is relatively insensitive to executive tasks (frontal lobe functions). Because it is relatively insensitive, a large drop in MMSE score (whatever that means) is indicative of fairly rapid neurological deterioration.

Dr. Bardack mentioned medications plural. The medications which Dr. Bardack alluded to in press-release like medical report of 2015 do not include anticonvulsants, movement control agents, psychotropic drugs. I pointed this discrepancy out in my prior essay.

I have spent the past 9 days researching dural sinus thrombosis, PCS and advanced imaging of neuropathology. Needless to say, I did not suspect SVD. As such, I have not collected any literature concerning that diagnosis.
What I can tell you now (unfortunately without the supporting literature) is that SVD:
1. irreversible
2. progressive
3. treated only symptomatically.

If her MMSE is falling significantly, that is a very bad sign--it means that before her four year term in office is completed, she will be medically incompetent due to severely diminished cognitive functions--sustained attention, working memory, multi-tasking, sensory overload, increasing physical fatigue secondary to attempted cognitive effort.

Some other points of interest:
1. PCS is due to cortical disease, not due to SVD. Therefore there are at least two anatomical loci of pathology: gray matter AND white matter.
2. Chronic use of anti-convulsants, especially at high dose has been known to cause Major Depressive Disorder (MDD)
3. The head-bobbing about which I commented in the first essay could be: upper-brainstem related or PCS related.
4. Psuedobulbar affect is most often due to midbrain pathology, although other loci of disease may responsible.
5. Let's not forget the laughter: she could have gelastic epilepsy which is a form of PCS.
6. Somewhere I remember seeing a video of HRC, reading from a teleprompter. On the teleprompter was the direction: "sigh"
At first I took this as a measure of her literal-mindedness; but now, on further reflection, I think the verbalization of the word sigh was due to diminished set-shifting. Impaired set-shifting is a cardinal manifestation of microneuropathology in people who have significant post-concussion syndrome. Somewhere along the line, Bill Clinton admitted that it took 6 months for her to come back to baseline. Even if that is true, though it probably is an underestimate, that signifies a more severe injury that the average mTBI in which symptomatic recovery occurs within 3 months.

A few words of explanation of commonly used medical terms:
1. Concussion: although very frequently accompanied by loss of consciousness, said loss of consciousness is not a necessary component of concussion.
2. MRI = Magnetic Resonance Imaging. MRI is a painless non-invasive procedure (unless IV injection of paramagnetic contrast is used). MRIs typically done for screening purposes contain only 5 (out of more than a dozen available) pulse sequences. The major pulse sequences are useful, but somewhat insensitive to determining macromolecular pathology. Macromolecular means fairly large anatomic clusters of tissue. Even if the MRI is positive for macromolecular lesions, it does not tells us about the functionality of the neural networks involved.
Macromolecular pathology has three components, but requires use of non-routine pulse sequences. The three domains of pathology detected are: structural (but on a much finer scale than on routine MRI), functional, and biochemical.
MRI is an extremely interesting modality and is becoming simultaneously more complex and more useful rapidly. For those of you that wish, I can reference a very good historical review of neuroimaging, starting from the skull x-ray to today's forays into magnetic resonance spectroscopy, diffusion tense imaging, and even more lately sodium ionic locations.

Let me conclude with this: I was preparing to write at least two more essays about Hillary's neuropathology including neuroanatomic concomitants of mTBI, especially when associated with post-concussion syndrome. The other contemplated essay was about the pathophysiology of Cerebral Dural Sinus Thrombosis.

One more note: CVD is not due to trauma. It is subcortical and involves white matter tracts. It is progressive--and in fact manifestations of Clinton's various neuropathologist (there is more than one) seem to be occurring at an accelerated pace--which is to be expected in view of the high stress levels, increased demand for cognitive functioning, and reduced physical stamina due to post-concussion syndrome.

My educated guess: Hillary will be unable to mask her several neuropathological disorders well before election day.

Once again, I invite your comments. Please refer this essay and the first widely. I don't do social medial. Please do the country a favor and SPREAD THE WORD.

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need a personal bodyguard. As far as a neurologist, sure the Clintons could afford one. They're worth over $100 million bucks. Running an office costs. A neurologist with a private practice has to pay staff, unemployment insurance, rent, phone, utilities, etc. Having one accompany her at her expense would cost a few hundred thou a year. That's what? Two or three speeches at Goldman Sachs? Well worth it, if you have a potentially fatal problem and are looking to be POTUS (I am not saying he is a neurologist; I am saying only that the Clintons could easily afford one.)

But how do we know he's not Secret Service?

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holding an epi-pen, he looks a little...husky here and there. Now, unless they've relaxed the physical requirements of the Secret Service, he's probably not an active agent, because they're pretty strict about tone, weight and fitness.

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Secret Service don't do that. Secret Service also don't walk around with openly carried injector pens, and doubly so not e-vapes (or whatever that mysterious object in his hand in one shot actually is).

IMHO he's adopted "protective coloration" so that people will think he's just another Secret Service person.

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If it was a neurologist, replacing his income would cost how much? $500k? $1MM? The Clintons could pay that out of pocket. But let's not kid ourselves, the Clintons wouldn't be the ones paying for him. How much gets donated to the Clinton Foundation annually? How hard would it be to divert some of that cash?

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is not relevant to her competence. Whether or not the records are real certainly is relevant.

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supporting an assertion is bogus? Do you really mean that? It's very simple, if the evidence is bogus the assertion is unsurpported.

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Thank you for this time offering a semi-factual comment. Because you have done so, I will give you a factual response. Partial seizure does indeed entail no loss of consciousness. Why? Because the brainstem reticular formation subserving wakefulness is not involved. Secondly you are vastly simplifying the issue of the "original insult". The presence of a 6th nerve paresis, which is common after mTBI does not necessarily require damage to the brainstem. The 6th cranial nerve (abducens) is the cranial nerve with the longest intracranial extent, thus it is is the most likely to be directly damaged in mTBI. That6 is not to say, that she didn't experience brainstem damage, which I think she did, but the simple presence of a 6th nerve paresis does not prove location of the lesion.
Regarding SVD, I suggest you re-read the essay in which I clearly state that SVD is not secondary to brain trauma.
Also, if you re-read my essay clearly, please notice that I said the MMSE is insensitive to subtle neuopsychologic effects. The term "validity" simply means that consistent results have been obtained over many years and many nations and multiple administration. Validity is a measure of test accuracy. Validity does not make a test more sensitive than the test is held to be.
One more thing, is that, as you mentioned, partial seizures do not involve the whole brain. They do involve multiple manifestations of abnormal cortical discharge, which are not necessarily limited to one functional cortical area. In the case of the partial seizure, the areas involved include aversive eye movement, aversive head turning, aversive truncal positioning (head-neck rotation) and adverse oral movement. If you want to call a seizure "simple", despite involvement of multiple discrete functional areas fine.

Now you since are difficult to convince, I may just go ahead and write my third essay on Hillary's blatant neuropathology, one detailing objectively verified anatomic brain damage occurring in the setting of a "simple" concussion. Let me know--I'll be happy to oblige.

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What defines level of consciousness is complex vs. simple. Look it up in any neurology textbook (if you have one).
"Partial" is as opposed to generalized. A partial seizure arises from one area of the brain. As a result of the two axes of meaning, you can have complex partial, or simple partial, (depending upon whether or not you lose consciousness), or for example complex partial with secondary generalization.

She had transverse sinus venous thrombosis, that is what you need to focus on. There is no evidence of sub-cortical dementia. If that were true she couldn't participate in a debate or function at this level. This is word salad that you're writing. I've never met a neurosurgeon that didn't get even the basics straight.

So, no, I'm not Napoleon.

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I've never met a neurosurgeon that didn't get even the basics straight.

Great idea!

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Good point! I'm glad I never met the man!

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Sit back, relax, wait for Snopes to find out what they can (or can't, in which case they'll continue to call it "Unconfirmed").

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someone make a mockery of neurology. It's a discipline I love. I am an RN, my spouse is a neurologist.

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from Ben Carson. We can all agree that there is something seriously wrong with Hillary Clinton. Frankly, she's better off having some sort of mental dementia to blame it on. Treatment may be available.

Otherwise, she's just a natural born sociopath who is more evil than Carly Fiorino. . . . or maybe even my ex-wife.

Is that misogynist? If so, I'm perfectly ok with that.

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and Carson and Cruz and Bush and Cheney and so many others...

Then no, it's not misogynist. If you think only women are sociopaths, then yes, that would be misogynist. I suspect, however, that you are not.

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Anja Geitz's picture

To listen to you tediously bang on about this. We get it. You think the OP is a fake. What more could possibly be said about that? You don't need to keep following the OP around grinding your ax about it, do you? You've said your piece, now why don't you and your neurologist husband go somewhere and have a laugh about whole thing and let the rest of us continue with this conversation, ok?

Jesus Fucking Christ already.

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thank you. There's plenty here and elsewhere to disagree with, but if it's that hard to watch, I'd be clicking away to another post, already.

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The writer is trying to speak from an undeserved position of authority. Everyone can have an opinion, but people aren't allowed to pretend to be engineers, doctors, etc.

No physician would speak like Alligator Ed has, or be as reckless.

I hate Hillary as much as anyone, and hope that the heavy weight of scandal brings her down, but this guy is wasting our time and discrediting the site.

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Famous Internet advice.

Earth to dervish: this is not a professional medical site. This is not a professional political site. This is not a professional news site. This is not a professional anything site. It has one and only one rule: Don't Be An Asshole - which you have repeatedly bent into pretzel shapes and are busily trying to do so again.

YOU are not one of the mods here, and YOU don't get to decide what is or is not "wasting our time" or "discrediting the site".

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REPEATEDLY.

and apart from the fact that you have NO PROOF this is true, YOU'VE MADE YOUR POINT.

ENOUGH.

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I've really taken about all I can stand of your nonstop uninformed, uneducated opinion on all things medical. I for one don't believe, for a minute, you're and RN unless RN stands for Registered Newbie Troll for Hillary Clinton. I also don't believe you're married to a neurologist, nor do I believe you're married to anyone at all. I suspect no one familiar with the aspects of marriage would ever consider entering a relationship of that magnitude with a person as obnoxious, overbearing and self aggrandizing as yourself.

Now, I hope that didn't upset you too much, but if it did, then maybe a little introspection on your part would be warranted because it truly needed to be said. Now really, why don't you go find another essay to play in?

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I thought I was the only one here getting annoyed.

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dervish is entitled to an opinion as are you. The problems start when opinions become uncivil.

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I am a bit irritated.
See how this works?

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

think you represent all RN's and Neurologists but as with any profession or trade there are still differences in opinions, as in you can have your taxes done by 10 accountants and get 10 different results.

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Time will tell.

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A.B. Baker; Clinical neurology, volume 1, Chapter 5; 1993:

Partial seizures

The symptoms of epilepsy are protean and depend upon where in the brain the seizure begins and how it spreads. The new classifications defines seizures as those that begin locally. They can be divided into two major subgroups:
1. those that are elementary or simple symptomatology in which consciousness is usually preserved but in which there are motor, sensory, or autonomic symptoms; and
2. those with complex symptomatology in which consciousness is usually impaired and in which there may be behavioral, cognitive, or affective symptoms.
Neurons can be recruited in adjacent but not sequentially related areas of brain, which will result in compound forms (for example, a patient who has clonic movements of the right hand and a transient dysphasia)

Impairment of consciousness does not imply loss of consciousness, but only an impairment of appropriate environmental responsiveness. To qualify for impaired conscious, duration is not specified; so such episodes of reduced environmental responsiveness can be very brief indeed.

One video-recorded episode is interesting, though I must say not yet adequately accounted for. This is an episode of apparent speech arrest. I suspect there were some motor manifestations of that speech arrest, since the presumably non-medically trained people on stage with her seemed to see some motor behavior not visualized in the publicly available video.

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why you didn't understand the distinctions and significance between the terms "simple" and "partial". A first year neurology resident would never confuse the two, or misspeak as you have.

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WE GET IT FOR FUCKS SAKE. YOU ARE THREAD JACKING THE CONVO.

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I think doing so is important. Everything I've said is spot on, and relevant to the conversation.

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We know what the hell you are doing.

You are no RN
Your "husband" is not a "neurologist"
And until I see credentials for either of you, I am going to to FOLLOW YOU around asking for them and calling bullshit on your shilling.

Have a nice fucking day.

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to stop, and anyone else who continues this food fight from here on will be asked to stop also. Everyone.

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WaterLily's picture

I saw this after I posted.

I'll stop and sincerely hope dervish will as well. It's highly annoying.

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and it appears to be ONLY your opinion, and you are boring us all with it.

Alligator Ed is a familiar, very opinionated, personality here. You are doing yourself no favors and making no allies by attacking him personally.

Hammer away at the papers all you want - they're just images, and may very well be fakes. But leave it at that - please.

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STFU already, will you?

We get it. Honestly.

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neurologist and neurosurgeon, who are we not to let him play doctor?

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But weren't you the poster who actually called the OP a liar yesterday? Why are you here?

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until he shuts up and/or gives up and leaves the site.

Behavior highly suggestive of a "Hillary shill", or at least of a fanatic (somebody, as Winston Churchill noted, who can't change their mind and won't change the subject).

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She has absolutely NO proof. Maybe we should ask her for HER nursing credentials along with her famous fucking husbands.

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with calling people that disagree with you shills.

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since said poster seems to be incapable of changing the subject. Blum 3

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am I going to have to ask you to stop?

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were posted on Twitter by by someone posting under the user name of Hills Medical Records. There were several screen shots made before Twitter took the post down.

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To everyone who made it to the end of this thread, you get a cookie!
At least, I feel like I deserve a cookie for making it.

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At this point these are nothing more than pictures of some typed pages from an unknown source, which were posted on the Internet.

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I was so looking forward to this post. I saw the reports today and was curious as to what you think.

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She's not in charge of her own campaign. She's nothing but a willing tool to be used by those who own her.
Do you really think her mental capacities are important? The more feeble she is, the easier she can be manipulated.
That's all that counts.
And ole Billy is rubbing his hands in glee to be Nancy Reagan.

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and Foundation, those are stories with legs.

That scumbag Gilbert Chagoury that she's close to is known money-launderer and has ties to Boko Haram. That story alone should be enough to take her down (but it probably won't be).

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I'll be happy to read your contribution on either.

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To comment on anything.

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civility please.

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I've seen people claim this is a twofer (often, ironically, the same people who claim it's unfair to hold her responsible for his policies). However, judging by appearances, it could end up being 0 for 2.

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If she ever makes it to another presser, it'll be "Must see teevee".

Two dreadful candidates from a population of 320+ million, one of whom might become permanently incapacitated shortly after taking office!!!

What a system!!??

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makes the whole dodging pressers motif make a whole fuckin' lot more sense, don't it?

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No debates, either.

Jesus, what a world.

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How could it?

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Same way DWS is avoiding a debate with Tim Canova.

She'll stall with some lame-ass "we're working out the details" while Trump continues to dangle shiny things in front of the "media" and there will be nothing anyone can do about it while said media incessantly parses exactly what The Hairpiece actually meant when he said [XY] instead of reporting on ... well, anything.

Fuck me.

(Sorry, I'm just really pissy over this farce of a democracy today).

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Came around, they'd already had some debates. I think the level of "outrage" was limited to people in Bernie's camp, rightfully so. But to skirt ANY debates in an election year with this controversial an opponent? I can't imagine how the DNC gets a way with it. There would be push back, even from the media. Think of the ratings loss?

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But the cynical side of me won't shut up today.

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Either he's a real candidate who knows he sounds like an idiot and she sounds smart. If she is healthy, she can wipe the floor with him.

Or he's her planted candidate and he'll cover for her ill health.

He will only agree to debate if he is planted and knows she's healthy; then he'll let her wipe the floor with him.

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to keep up with all the angles of this election. You've brought up an interesting point. Nonetheless, I still can't imagine how long she's going to be able to hide it if she's really this sick. This is outrageous. What a farce for women all over America buying into this "historic" Presidential run. Can you imagine the blowback from the misogynists if she gets elected and all her health issues come out after the fact? Talk about the need for feminist damage control. Smh.

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Depending on where you go to/listen to/read, there's plenty of interest. Hell, in my office there is interest, and we've got a mixed bag employed.

But if all you depend on is commercial American media? Crickets. Not shocking at all...

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on another thread, that alone would be a disqualifier for me. A president should not mock physical issues from which anyone suffers. And that was the best case interpretation of that video, the other interpretation being that she herself was having a seizure.

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The more damaging videos of her blanking out. Why is that?

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A week or 2 old I believe...

I'm sure it's only the start...
You know he isn't going to pull any punches...

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to not address this publicly.

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of being remotely truthful on any level, I have to wonder if it's just about "pathological selfishness".

The whole "desperation" of the Clinton campaign in this cycle has been over the top, even for them--or at least, for the situation they've been in this cycle to date. HRC has always been the most recognized, has the most money, etc. Yet if you looked at the campaign in certain lights, you'd see people stirring up shit in the media that was never necessary for someone with every single advantage going their way.

I never got that up to now. But the idea that she's not well and getting worse? That sheds a whole new light on the unbelievable aggressiveness shown, for example, against Senator Sanders during his campaign.

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And she really is this sick, I wonder if Bernie knows? And I wonder if this is why he never officially conceeded?

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Business as usual, in other words.

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lunachickie's picture

This shit is really starting to scare me. The idea that someone could be as sick as described? Even if those reports are fakes, there needs to be something forthcoming from this candidate's campaign. These are incredibly serious issues and if someone is "covering" for Hillary so that she can skate past this one and assume office, not having disclosed a major neurological condition, that's just frightening.

Which makes my gut instinct--the reports are fakes--all the more imperative to observe. I cannot believe that anyone could cover for something like this, unless this government is already coup'ed and has been since 9/11. And that's been something questionable for quite some time now. There's enough there here to demand real medical clearances. Supposedly Hillary has not been given one from her doctor for over a year now.

A lot can happen in a year. We need to keep pushing on this, IMO.

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The pressure might grow on Jill to give her assessment.

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The pressure might grow on Jill to give her assessment.

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hecate's picture

a pretty good doctor, she's not going to get involved in Fristing, particularly over a steaming pile of horseshit whipped into a froth by Anus Jones.

it's pretty pathetic, that people don't recognize they're dancing as monkeys, to patented organ-grinding from the right-wing noise machine. As, today, right on time, comes the medical-records "poll" from Rasmussen, the GOP house firm.

Anybody remember the release of The Hairball's fabled "medical records"? Apparently not. Below is the sum total of what is known about his health:

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I think it's important that Jill's message wins and that message has nothing to do with Hillary's health.

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elenacarlena's picture

fake. And she will not diagnose without examining the patient.

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Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.

And the Trumpers are going to make a distracting issue out of this. Jill is in a position, if it is obvious to her that these health claims are fake, to bring the conversation back to where it should be.

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and I don't play one on TV. I can see how that would not be professional. If it's fake, I guess that will be proven, it's just a shame that so much distracting time will have been wasted on it.

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ThoughtfulVoter's picture

If we start to see Donald falling on stairs, or being supported to stand upright, then yes his health status report will become even more important than it already is.

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Anja Geitz's picture

Someone on DKos. Can't remember his name. Had an avatar with a smiling kid with a mustache. Anyone?

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hecate's picture

dhonig. Not me.

And you're going to cut that shit out. Right now. Or I'll be more than happy to tell you what you remind me of.

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TheOtherMaven's picture

We have never yet had a candidate actually die prior to being elected, or inaugurated. Yet.

There was William Henry Harrison, who literally didn't have the sense to come in out of the rain and caught pneumonia from cold/wet exposure during his inaugural address, from which (and/or incompetent medical attention) he died a few weeks later.

There was also Horace Greeley in 1872, who died between the time the election was held and the time the electors registered their votes - but he was the loser, so it wound up not mattering.

If Hillary croaks - or is forced by health to withdraw - between now and Election Day, my best guess is Tim Kaine would just be bumped up to the top spot, and possibly have to recruit his own VP candidate. Not a pleasant prospect, but it would at least get the Clintons' grubby, grabby hands off the levers of power.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

bondibox's picture

I thought the purpose of Bernie forcing the delegates to record their votes at the convention was as a contingency in this type of event. By recording the delegates, he stands first in line to replace Hillary on the Democratic ticket.

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