Update: Julian struck a nerve BREAKING: Murdered DNC staffer Seth Rich was Wikileaks’ source, Assange admits in interview
UPDATE: The Russians are at it again. NYT sure know how to spin a yarn.
WikiLeaks, the group that put out the D.N.C. emails publicly last month, interjected itself into the hacking case again this week when it offered a $20,000 reward for information on the shooting death last month of a former D.N.C. staff member, Seth Rich, outside his Washington home. His killing fueled speculation on the internet that he was somehow tied to the hacked emails, but the police have not given any credence to that speculation.
The WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange, has made it clear that he would like to hurt Mrs. Clinton’s bid for the White House, opposing her candidacy on policy and personal grounds. He has hinted that he has more material about the presidential campaign that he could release.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/11/us/politics/democratic-party-russia-ha...
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I just posted this, but feel that the title of the video is far beyond speculation. As for the material, I think, after watching the video that "admits" it way too strong. Implies, suggests, maybe. To me, this video is not surprising, with the Wikileaks reward for information about this particular murder. I guess, stay tuned. I hope that Equadorian embassy is well-guarded. The interview is said to be from the Dutch program Nieuwsuur.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJtZcFmUtvo
This video comes from here:
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Embedded it for you...
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It's that pesky Clinton Body Count again...
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
He as much as tacitly admitted Rich was a source
Jesus Fucking Christ is all I have to say.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
Thank you.
Now we know the reason for that "The Russians did it" claim.
The way the Clinton campaign officially pushed the "Russians did it" claim made no sense unless it was to inoculate against a story even more damaging than the emails themselves.
And less than a week after the attorney that filed the DNC suit
also died under unknown circumstances...
At what point does it go from being a coincidence to serial murder?
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Kill one man, it's a murder...
Kill all your political opponents, and it becomes a statistic.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Or TV fiction. Frank and Claire Clinton. Or is it...
Bill and Hillary Underwood?
I have long contended that
House of Cards is a documentary, not fiction.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Facts please!
Process server featured prominently in a viral video.
So, even if he wasn't the lead attorney, he embarrassed Hillary in a big way, or at least was the face of that embarrassment.
Cause of death has still not been released, and staffers responding to inquiries have been described as "Rattled".
Enough for me to be suspicious.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Posted here
http://caucus99percent.com/content/snopes-confirms-internet-rumor-shawn-...
thnx
I take a day off from c99, and look at the news I miss!
Shilling Much?
I'm just saying...
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
You could do a little digging of your own
instead of expecting everything to be spoon fed to you.
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
How about Assange's lawyer?
He died last week too. "Committed Suicide" by jumping in front of train.
Seems like there's an "unhealthy" connection between the DNC and WikiLeaks.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Link? /nt
Only connect. - E.M. Forster
http://www.camdennewjournal.com/johnjones-tributes
Thanks and to zoebear below, too.
I had missed this. When I lived in Manhattan, pushing people - known or unknown as a "prank" - off the platform before incoming subway trains was a thing. Suicide by train was actually pretty rare . . .
Only connect. - E.M. Forster
https://www.thesun.co.uk
https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/1138414/britains-top-human-rights...
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
cctv surveillance should verify circumstance
doesn't London have cameras everywhere? at train platforms?
bygorry
Good point
I hadn't thought of that. Maybe they did and didn't find anything? Who knows. It's all just so outlandish and disgusting.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Or ON the train?? n/t
“He may not have gotten the words out but the thoughts were great.”
Not the lawyer
He was a process server. He served the complaint on the DNC.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
I'm sure Hillary only said something innocent...
You know, like:
Will no one rid me of this troublesome traitor?
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
...enough is enough...
Wow, that is sickening. I saw that WIKI is offering a reward for info about him, too. Why would they care if he wasn't their source?
Will be interesting to see how this plays out in the news.
...Makes me wonder what Bill really said on the tarmac to Lynch...
"We talked about the grandkids"
"Nice family you got there..."
"Polls don't tell us how well a candidate is doing; Polls tell us how well the media is doing." ~ Me
WikiLeaks is offering a reward for information regarding his
death: http://www.businessinsider.com/wikileaks-20000-seth-rich-dnc-2016-8
I would take out the quotes around his name. There is no question about his name really being Seth Rich. I know that's how they had it in the video, but there's no reason to use quotes around his name as if it may or may not be what he is really called.
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Quotes gone
Thank you.
Thanks! That looks better to me.
My first thought when reading the headline was, "Do we not know who this guy is?" but I googled him and we do.
Very interesting. I hope they find out what happened.
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Just found this link
Looks like it has been out for several hours.
http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/murdered-staffer-was-wikileaks-...
That's a nice site too, from what I can see, another group
of lefties. They were more partisan for Bernie than we were, per their About info. They haven't changed their About info, don't know if that's just outdated or that means something. Anyway, thanks for the link!
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Blood on the Hacks
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Is that your image?
According to Snopes, almost every section of it has something inaccurate about it. I think it would be more powerful if it was fixed.
Per Snopes, who appear to have verified facts with multiple sources: Seth Rich was on his way home, not to meet the FBI at 4 AM when he was shot. John Ashe was scheduled for pretrial motions in his own corruption trial that had nothing to do with Clinton (although he did know her). Victor Thorn was a Holocaust denier whose books were not that influential, who committed suicide. And Shawn Lucas was a process server, not an attorney. I saw the video of the service; in it, he says the name of the process serving company he works for.
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Not my image...
and thanks for clearing up some of flaws in the captioning.
Posted basically because it summarizes the Clinton connected people who have suspiciously died recently. If new information changes the details, so be it.
However, I would caution you as well on blanket statements like this:
Not sure how you make that statement with such certainty.
Or this:
The DA denied a direct connection, but there are many reasons he would have an incentive to do so, including the possibility that the defendant was looking to plea bargain his own case by providing info on Hillary in matters not directly related to that specific corruption allegation.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
That paragraph starts with "Per Snopes". I meant that to apply
to the entire paragraph (now edited to change my punctuation to better reflect that), although the Google search that took me to Snopes showed no reliable evidence to the contrary. I did happen to have independent evidence that Shawn Lucas was just the process server from an earlier posted video. But the rest is Snopes.
Again per Snopes, they spoke with both family and friends of Victor Thorn, all of whom verified that it was suicide. That a man who wrote hateful screeds about others might also hate himself does not surprise me.
As for John Ashe, there is a right-wing video circulating that claims he was going to testify against a foreign national with ties to Clinton. So perhaps there is an indirect link, although if I wanted to state that with assurance I would find more sources. When it comes to right-wing media, my motto is "Distrust and multiply verify".
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Sure but...
Snopes isn't exactly authoritative either.
Perfectly reasonable that Ashe would both know a lot about Clintonian shenanigans and have a good reason to want to divulge them. Whether there is actually a proven connection at this stage doesn't mean the speculation is unwarranted.
Smoking guns are rarely found on a website.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Nobody's perfect, but Snopes usually multiply verifies their
information. Factcheck.org checked them out, http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/snopescom/
As they note, never take one source as gospel. But when they provide the source of their claims, you can backtrack as desired. From factcheck:
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@elenacarlena: A lot of their sources...
tend to be mainstream media outlets, which are no more authoritative these days than anybody else.
Here's a good example about the Seddique Mateen incident.
They cite Mateen's non-denial denial and NPR's reporting of a statement from the Clinton campaign denying that he had been invited.
They then throw in a couple of 'we found no evidence' claims, which are not probative of anything, as padding and call it a day.
(Makes you wonder how hard they really looked.)
Wikileaks notwithstanding, if you are looking for hard evidence of a conspiracy, you probably won't find it published on a website like Snopes. But that doesn't mean you should discount the connections merely because they are not spelled out in black and white.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Like I said, Snopes is just one source among many, but I
usually find them reliable. If you don't, it's no skin off my nose. I own no Snopes stock.
But if you're believing what you read on right-wing conspiracy sites, I think you will eventually find that most of that information is untrue. They may have a little better info at present because of the Clinton misinformation campaign. Just, like I said, multiply verify.
And I'm not discounting anything "merely because they're not spelled out in black and white". I don't find conspiracy theories all that interesting, frankly, to spend a lot of time on them. I attributed my comments to Snopes to provide that info FWIW, and admit that later info on John Ashe suggests there may be more to his trial than Snopes asserted.
As for the "terrorist's father" article, I would like to know how people are chosen to sit behind Clinton. It seems extremely reckless with her safety if they truly do not know who those people are. It's good that they went to the father and the DNC. But they could have done a better job there, explaining how it happened, I think. Maybe they or someone will update after the DNC and/or Secret Service completes their own investigation.
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Not Henry Kissinger ...
Where did you get this disinfo, or did you just make it up yourself?
Either way, why post it at c99p?
Only connect. - E.M. Forster
I think it's OK to post as the four people who have died
recently with some connection with Clinton. But it needs editing. All the statements below the photos were claimed at some point but have since been modified.
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Give me a break.
Save the self-important "you're hurting the blog" claptrap for Agent Orange.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Inquisitr has odd videos on the topic
http://www.inquisitr.com/3400412/was-seth-rich-assassinated-wikileaks-po...
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
...interesting...
The Common Sense TV video in the middle of that Inquisitr story had the body count up to 6.
I did find the story picked
I did find the story picked up on a few media sites:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/9/wikileaks-offers-20000-in...
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/WikiLeaks-Offers-20K-Reward-for-...
Here's a 10 min video going around
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb_N02-vh8M
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It is bizarre to find myself looking at RW posts, but they are the only ones looking critically at the Clintons.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Just distrust and verify.
Verify everything twice over. We have seen right wingers repeatedly have a loose association with the truth.
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unfortunately almost all media is loose with the truth
I think we've made it to 1984 and double speak propaganda. The MSM is so obviously in the tank with the Clintons, and turned their attack team out on T-rump. Kinda makes me think he's the less dangerous one...unless they are in league - which not beyond the pale of believable.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”