Looks like the DNC really did pick a winner after all!
That is, if you want the winner to be Donald Trump. (which I would accept over Clinton to be honest.)
Take a look at this map of the most recent poll results from RealClear Politics.
So, looking at where she is at now and coupling that with the ever present "Clinton Slide" (My term for the phenomenon of how the the more she is exposed to the public the less they like her.) and it does not paint a pretty picture for the Clintons.
I see a few "Toss up" states that I am pretty certain will not go to Clinton, Florida, Georgia and NC have a stronger chance of going to Trump and I wouldn't rule out the significant possibility of Michigan and even Wisconsin also going to him.
PA may be more of a toss up, but there is even a chance she could lose that one, particularly if Trump comes out hard against Fracking there.
Arizona and Ohio could go either way but I would be surprised if AZ ended up going Clinton.
As far as the "Leans" states go, does anyone think Texas is going to go anywhere but Red this cycle? I don't. So there is another 38 votes for Trump.
The only leans state for Trump that I could see flipping to Clinton is Utah and maybe, just maybe Indiana.
Looking at the Leans Clinton states I see only 1 or two that may go the other way. Oregon and Colorado. Both have Liberal holdouts but also a large portion of those states are rural and tend towards the Republicans. If Trump were to embrace FULL legalization (Something he has come out favorably for in the past but has hedged a bit recently on probably to woo the more conservative voters in the Primary) he stands a STRONG chance of upending those as Hillary has been completely against doing anything about Cannabis reform until the polls forced her to take a somewhat tepid stance towards medical applications only.
I would suggest those of us that intended to do so should start working on their, "Hey, we warned you..." diaries for TOP. 
Comments
Don't vote for evil - vote
Don't vote for evil - vote non-corporate, vote Green! If enough people do that, guess what happens?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Frightening
It's frightening to think that Trump could be our next president. What's even more frightening is that politics in the US has even made it a possibility that someone like him could be.
Like it or not, right now he's the populist in the game.
Thanks to the idiocy of the Dems.
I would say exactly the same
with regard to Clinton
“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” -Voltaire
Dumb and Dumber. I never could figure out which was which.
chuck utzman
TULSI 2020
A Trump Presidency
would completely destroy the existing Democratic Party. In the fog of that defeat we can steal the name back from them . Maybe rename it the Democratic Party 2.0.
This event alone would make a four year Trump Presidency tolerable.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Or rename it the Actually
Or rename it the Actually Democratic Party?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Phooey on Clinton, phooey on the Dems, phooey on Trump.
I'm older than dirt and refuse to waste my time and effort on expediency or political chess games. I'm going to try to leave the world in a better way than it seems to be heading right now.
Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.
Nah
Not buying this.
Surveying who?
How about Nixon's silent majority?
ToP is orgasming. They should not.
When your candidate comes out and says she's gonna kill coal and fracking and and.
Guess what? Those ne and mid western states have saved their budgets and services and pensions and employment because they've done exactly that.
This will not end well.
Don't make climate change, where everyone loses, the center of your congaing.
Pry their hands off their bibles and guns. Go ahead.
I dare you.
Prof: Nancy! I’m going to Greece!
Nancy: And swim the English Channel?
Prof: No. No. To ancient Greece where burning Sapho stood beside the wine dark sea. Wa de do da! Nancy, I’ve invented a time machine!
Firesign Theater
Stop the War!
I'm not sure I understand this comment, Ed
Are you saying climate change should not be a focus?
Bernie did far better in W Va. by being honest with them that coal was going to have to go away, and he'd work to bring new clean energy jobs to the state. Clinton pandered and said she mispoke about ending coal. Bernie won the state handily.
I think honesty goes a long way though. People, rational people anyway, can handle change when they are told the truth.
It's OK; Those Who Matter
It's OK; Those Who Matter knew she was lying and will do whatever polluters want. She owes billions to self-interests and they expect the world for their investment.
http://freebeacon.com/politics/clinton-says-pledge-eliminate-coal-jobs-m...
She really doesn't seem to notice that framing herself as not actually a liar attempting to deceive others while intending to serve her various corporate/billionaire paymasters at everyone and everything else's expense but merely incompetent, prone to 'errors' and as having more flip-flops than Imelda Markos might also appear non-Presidential ...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2207353/Imelda-Marcos-legendary-...
Maybe Hill has termites in her tele-prompter?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Damn...campaign. Auto speller strikes again
Prof: Nancy! I’m going to Greece!
Nancy: And swim the English Channel?
Prof: No. No. To ancient Greece where burning Sapho stood beside the wine dark sea. Wa de do da! Nancy, I’ve invented a time machine!
Firesign Theater
Stop the War!
I am actually a bit surprised...
It isn't worse. I really don't think Clinton has a chance in Colorado, but the polls say otherwise. Still, these state polls tend to lag by a couple of weeks. The recent national polling is just brutal for Clinton.
Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?
One might unskew the polls
by comparing the actual and expected results of Clinton vs Sanders, then picking a percentage of those 'unpolled' voters who will go to Trump and Clinton.
IMO, Florida and Georgia
will go to Trump. We have to remember that Florida elected Rick Scott governor twice. Georgia is far more conservative than Florida.
I am Floridiot, but I will not be exercising the idiot part because I will be voting for Dr. Jill Stein.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
How you vote isn't the whole picture
A vote for anyone but Trump or Johnson is a vote for Bernie, I think. That is, a vote for anyone but a right-winger. Bernie's plans are long-term actions, he laid them out pretty well in that teleconference with his delegates two days ago. Why can't the fight (our fight)continue on (at least) two fronts--one or more fronts from outside the dem party and one from inside the awful machine? Bernie knows politics and knows what ya can and can't get out of current political configurations. He's not giving up, and neither should we.
Back to voting--there may be something to be said for "strategic voting," along the lines of what recently happened in Canadian elections. People in states that will reliably go dem can vote green, socialist, or other progressive tickets. But if you live in a swing state such as Florida, (wow! Florida!), Ohio or PA you have to go with the dems to ensure that Trump is out.
It would help if Bernie could do some reliable polling closer to November and disseminate the results.
Glaciers move slowly but they alter everything in their way. . . .
"polling closer to November "
If Clinton's polling vs Trump continues to plummet, at some point the delegates and superdelegates will have to face the prospect of utter defeat and dump Hillary.
Bernie is still in this. All the way to the GE.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Never gonna happen:
The party elites won't change course even if Hillary is getting trounced. To their way of thinking a loss to Trump is nearly equal to a Bernie win. They will stick with HRC regardless of how improbable her winning becomes. Besides the mechanism to dump HRC after the convention doesn't exist. Trying to do it at the convention is unthinkable to the elites. You think we're upset at Bernie's loss due to the DNC and friends rat fucking his campaign? Consider the violent PUMA uprising in the Hillary camp if she is denied at the last moment. The only sure positive effect of dumping HRC is a complete fracturing and disintegration of the Democratic Party.
"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."
It's over dude.
The elites are going to ride the SS Clinton right into the iceberg.
Amen.
If the elites were given an absolute guarentee that Bernie would win the general and Hillary would lose, they would still nominate Hillary. They would rather Hillary the nominee lose, than to have Bernie the nominee win. Their power and position depend upon it.
"Just call me Hillbilly Dem(exit)."
-H/T to Wavey Davey
Too bad the proletariat
Too bad the proletariat workers huddled in the hold are going down with them...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
But this supposition is based on a foundation that many of us do
not feel is necessarily correct.
There are VERY solid arguments that can be made that at least as far as the long term big picture goes (particularly the 2018/20 cycles.) Trump may indeed be the proper choice for those progressives that subscribe to LEV strategies.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Um, no
A vote for Jill Stein is the equivalent to a vote for Bernie, but not a vote for Clinton. Voting for the most corrupt candidate in modern times only perpetuates the corruption of our political system. Even in a swing state.
Besides, Clinton will eke out her victory drawing votes from well off Republicans. They are a better fit for her domestic policy and her neocon foreign policy anyway.
I have to give Trump credit (or someone on his staff, anyway) for the tweet: Bernie endorsing Clinton is like Occupy Wall Street endorsing Goldman Sachs. That says it all.
Even the smallest person can change the course of the future
Exactly, elmo
We should vote for who we support. That's the only way democracy can work. I've been guilty of this "strategic" voting idea myself in the past, but it's pointless. First of all, in this election, the evils are so closely matched, who can predict who would actually turn out to be worse? We really don't know.
But beyond that - if we all actually voted for our preferred candidates, we wouldn't be stuck with this two-party system. Who knows how many people didn't vote for Nadar out of fear of Bush. How'd that work out? I didn't myself, I voted for Gore because LESSER EVIL.
Your vote, always presuming it's counted, is the only voice you are given. You should use it to communicate your beliefs, not triangulate and "strategize." The system will never change itself, it will only change when we change.
Don't get me wrong, I am not advocating that anyone LEV
(Lesser Evil Vote) but for those that think it is a viable strategy it can indeed be argued that Trump is the Lessor in many areas as well as for strategic reasons.
Personally I am still planning to vote for Stein in Florida but I keep hemming and hawing both ways regarding Trump if it looks like Clinton has a chance.
I don't fear Trump, Clinton on the other hand absolutely terrifies me.
She has already proven herself capable of inflicting long term damage on a global scale.
He is just an obnoxious escapee from the chocolate factory without the musical talent.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Per the NYT, Hillary is now more unfavorable than Trump.
New numbers from the NYT/CBS poll:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/15/us/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-tru...
-The race is tied, 40-40
-Favorability: Trump -24, Clinton -26
-Trump beats Hillary on the economy and jobs: 52-41
-Trump beats Hillary on trade: 47-46
-They are tied on national security and terrorism at 46
-Hillary beats Trump on illegal immigration: 48-45
-Hillary beats Trump at race relations: 60-29
-50% view Hillary as qualified, down 9 points
-46% say her use of a private email server was illegal
-46% of voters say they are unenthusiastic about the election, 6 in 10 say they do not look forward to the next few months
Ouch...
It is not just us venomous lambs here on our little corner of the Intertubes that see here as untrustworthy and a disaster.
Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?
And...
If this keeps up, I may have to change my signature.
Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?
This election should not be close
Donald Trump is a phony candidate running a phony campaign. He is not doing most of the things everyone says you have to do to win a presidential election. Many of his promises don't even make sense, e.g. a physical wall almost 2,000 miles long on the Mexican border.
Why is Hillary tied with and sometimes losing to this guy in the polls? Do the Dems really want such a weak standard bearer?
It's weird that the presumptive nominees are tied 35%-35% here in Utah. This state hasn't gone to the Dems in a presidential election since 1964.
"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."
Thinking out loud
My personal goal is to STOP HILLARY -
So, playing public defender, here are Donald Trump's
PROS:
1. Donald Trump's background has been pretty well examined, and what you see is pretty much what you get, so he isn't an unknown commodity at this point and we probably have seen most of his worst attributes already -- granted, those negative attributes can seem bad, but notice that in any presidential election you could probably make a laundry list of the worst attributes of any candidate and come up with lots of negatives equal to or worse than Trump's;
2. Trump's business experience involves negotiations with business leaders and even governments around the world, and he likely has connections behind the scenes that surpass those of simply purely political candidates -- this gives him keen, realistic insights into economics in different parts of the world, as well as additional avenues to pursue trade agreements, and even perhaps some nuanced awareness of particular financial weaknesses of possible global competitors, not to mention experience and insight into the partnerships and/or antagonism between different industries and particular governments;
3. Trump has a confidence and powerful personality that, like it or not, tend to work well in politics, and make it far less likely he would become too strongly beholden to this or that external influencer -- we complain often about our elected officials being in the pocket of lobbyists and special interests, but Trump is his own special interest and he seems unlikely to let his own sense of personal power and rightness become manipulated or dominated by outside forces;
4. Trump is undeniably a great negotiator, and despite his bombastic public statements he has also mastered the fine art of navigating complex deals and convincing a wide variety of governments, industries, businesses, and investors to do what he wants and to work with him to achieve his goals -- while some might dislike this or that particular goal toward which Trump worked in those instances, as president a large portion of his negotiating would by necessity be in favor of very standard U.S. positions on international issues, and Trump would be applying his skills to push a lot of policies that came through/earned support from a Congress that represents the voters and that has created compromise deals and policies, rather than Trump just out there still negotiating his personal business deals that the public and our representatives weren't involved in;
5. Trump definitely supports free enterprise and favors less regulation of the market, so those who favor more libertarian economic policies might find Trump's views on these matters to be highly positive.
My CONS:
1. Despite being well-educated on finance, Trump often seems extremely prone to embrace uninformed positions that turn into major embarrassments for him -- his promotion of the "Obama isn't a U.S. citizen" myth, his promotion of the anti-vaccination myths, and repeated comments that give the appearance (correct or not) that he doesn't check facts or stay informed about serious issues;
2. He's repeatedly made comments that many people felt had racial undertones -- including messages on Twitter asserting that black and Latino citizens commit most violent crimes in major cities, his aforementioned statements questioning Obama's birth and whether he's a Muslim, and other remarks;
3. Trump has been repeatedly accused of being untrustworthy, by investors and buyers as well as others, and some of the accusations include allegations of fraud -- lack of trust and concern about corruption are major problems for a presidential candidate;
4. Trump's leadership in business has allowed him to push his demands through and he's not been surrounded with people who might disagree and even try to oppose him, so he doesn't have experience building a team designed for purposes other than promoting his own narrow agenda and providing information that might be in contrast to his own position and goals -- a president has to compromise, and cannot expect to just do whatever they want while threatening to fire anyone who displeases them;
5. Trump seems impulsive and more interested in self-promotion than necessarily accomplishing significant goals -- even his finances are geared heavily toward promoting his personal brand and making him more money in order to further self-promote, with much of his behavior in public seeming largely motivated by garnering attention;
6. Trump's financial behavior has not always been successful, and in fact he's been through bankruptcy and openly admits manipulating bankruptcy laws to enrich himself at the expense of society and other people, so that he protects himself from risk by getting governments and banks to shoulder more of the burden and let him off the hook more cheaply -- lack of adequate responsibility, coupled with repeated failures on a large scale, plus actual broad lack of experience on Wall Street and with stocks, adds up to undermine his reputation as bringing good financial experience and expertise to the presidency.
There are of course more pros and cons to consider, but these are the primary ones as I see them... and I agree with those who have noted it would be easier to remove him in 2020.
Great summation!
We could probably write a whole book on the Cons of those two candidates.
The pro's? Not so much....
Thanks for taking the time to share that with us!
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
yep
I have a feeling most people particularly democrats or other left leaning have only gotten an impression of Trump through what others including MSM have written or said about him rather than just listening to what he has said in his speeches or rallies. I have also noticed explicit cherry picking of things by 'media' he said in a speech which really skewed what he actually said and then go on blathering about it as if their snippet actually defines what Trump is.
I know damn well that many here think I may am nuts that I don't fear trump... it doesn't matter I was never particularly well received at kos either as free trade is your epitaph. But there is one thing I have learned in the last 10 years or so is that listening to media is a really bad idea as they stopped talking or writing about what is truly important a long time ago and trumpet issues that affect less than 3% of the population as if it is the biggest issue facing the nation and it is simply nuts to make it dominate headlines.
Trump blew Jeb Bush off the stage in a way no Democrat-in-name-only would ever do. No one deserves to be blown out politically more than any bush family member. I believe that entire previous administration belongs on trial at the Hague for war crimes and crimes against humanity. The direction of the nation has been a complete catastrophe since 9/11 and TRUMP called the bushes out on it ... Not fucking clintons, not any other so-called democrat ... Trump. I give him a lot of credit for doing so and I know he made some enemies in the right wing establishment by doing so ... possibly endangering himself in the future. Clinton, as has Obama, have continued the aimless no possible way to 'win' global war on terror ... has everybody forgotten about that? this country has been bankrupted by this war on a tactic... does that mean anything to anyone? Additionally many PNAC doctrine bloviators responsible for that piece of shit global hegemony insanity have come out in favor of Hillary... people like Henry Kissinger, Robert Kovak and Bill Kristol... holy shit!!! Is this fact lost on people?
Additionally, Trump has repeatedly said he is sick of our having a 1,000 bases around the world and we are paying for other nations' 'security' ... any democrats calling for reducing those bases which are constant sources of political turmoil in those countries? Nope... not a one. I for one don't think we should any outside of our borders but a handful.
The greatest benefit to Trump's ascendancy to the GOP nomination has been Obama's presidency. He has continued relentlessly the same policies as bush and the globalist clintons and the multitudes a globalist minions who support these insane policies that even if successfully implemented will ultimately fail because nations want to control their own destinies and not be dictated to by corporate interests. Eventually massive wars will start to get rid of foreign corporate interests will piss off citizenry. Syria and Libya, Yemen (by SA proxy) all have been torn apart by US military invasion or funding of proxies. Those were all on the PNAC list ... does that mean anything to anyone?
I agree with most about Trump's dickheaded type remarks but he doesn't go by a script like 99.9% of other candidates who carefully craft their words to appeal to their target demographic (marketing bullshit). If anyone thinks these candidates don't say dickheaded things about others in private or behind closed doors they are plain stupid. Almost everything dickheaded/assholish thing Trump has said I hear almost everyday and I work with a hell of a lot of people.
Part of the EU 'doctrine' for member nations' is they HAVE to accept immigrant populations as it is supposed to be an open borders thing. Well, that is a huge problem and a perfect way to destroy national identities ... it CAUSES civil unrest as economic or political or war refugees flood into a nation and the nation's social safety nets are BROKEn by this. It bankrupts city, regional and state budgets.... it is not a natural order of things but an artificial construct by globalists or similar minded (leftist ... really... diversity to the point of utter dilution that no national culture exists anymore is a 'good' thing .. really?). Sorry, I would rather go to France and see a french culture, good or bad, than a nation torn apart by multiculturalism gone wild with its inevitable civil unrest and ultimately lots of violence. I work with people from France and they don't like it there anymore... they have military patrolling their parks because things are so unstable. People get attacked by roaming hoardes of refugees while stuck in traffic getting to the airport in the rural areas. No thanks.
Trump is a woman hater because he criticized and made snide remarks about Megan Kelly a fox news talking head or Carly Fiorni's face. Two multimillionaire right wing gas bags .. Carly destroyed HP and the careers of 30,000 employees... oh but he criticized her... Megan Kelly (net worth ~$15 million) oh so sad ... such a well paid fox news bullshit spewer... so sad he insulted her. Rosie O'Donnel was called a fat slob.... those words hurt so much ... Get over it... its words... its not the same thing as Hillary laughing about Libya's president Gaddafi's getting his bowels ripped out by a bayonet and the nation turned into a total anarchy mess.
I couldn't stand Trump saying he'd support torture... I think that is insane... but saying so isn't the same thing as Bush doing it because some war criminal Berkeley law professor (John Yoo) wrote a memo saying its okay... and then Obama letting Bush and his cadre of war criminals walking off into the sunset laughing all the way to the bank... and Obama is some kind of 'Constitutional Law Professor'... has Obama ever heard of the International Criminal Code or the domestic criminal code of military justice? Guess not... some fucking lawyer he is. My father's best friend was a Nuremburg prosecutor in WWII and was giving speeches to federal judges in the US regarding bush's policies before he passed away in 2009. To say the least he wasn't a fan of bush's policies when I spoke with him ... but with Obama... its all cool.
To be fair I'm not sure about Trump but at least I actually listened to him and most of his rants have been about shitty trade agreements and he feels the entire nation has been ripped off by them. He was also very kind to Bernie Sanders because Trump, for all his purported evilness, recognizes that Bernie was spot on about trade policy and was non-corrupt while the Clinton machine stomped Bernie into the ground through hook or by crook. Bernie certainly hasn't been as kind back to Trump and given him credit for being correct about trade policy being shit policy... Bernie should have at least acknowledged it but instead threw in the towel for Hillary, made it all anything-but-trump, and he lost a ton of respect with me for it. No one in the democratic party has given credit to Trump for blowing out Jeb and the Bushes for their war crime escapade and that their utter failure at 'keeping us safe' on 9/11... the democrats have no courage and it takes some balls to go against the corporate owned political establishment (it is a dangerous path) and Hillary literally and figuratively does not have what it takes... in fact has no intention of doing so EVER.
I'm not a fan of political correctness, perhaps the worm has turned with me and I went to the 'dark side'. I still loathe the republican party but I don't know if I loathe them more than the democrats. Who supposedly "know better". What I do know that almost every article out there about trump bashes him and many republicans have as well but when you listen to what he actually says ... its not nearly as doom and gloom as it has been made to be by people who simply write about him.... I consider that a sign that maybe we can turn this political shitshow around called the two party system which is more like a snake cult than a representative democracy (or in right wing parlance 'republic'). Whatever it is I haven't liked where it has gone for well over 25 years and it needs to change badly. I don't see it happening with Hillary and believe Bernie will be put into a closet and the door locked. Trump... meh ... his message has been pretty consistent about policy and if one can step aside from dwelling on non PC lanaguage.. his policy objectives seem more democratic like than the democratic party embodies. As far as the SCOTUS goes... that I don't know about ... Mike Pence is a wing nut but if they selected judges that only made trimester abortions illegal .. that isn't the worst thing to happen and isn't unreasonable ... maybe it would get the right wing religious nuts out of trying to take over our fucking government.
One thing-third trimester abortions being illegal is a bad thing
The right-wing myth that there are women out there who just couldn't fit the abortion into their schedule until the 8th month is just that - a myth.
The only people who have third trimester abortions are those whose health is at risk if they don't or whose fetus is so damaged it won't survive or is already dead or dying.
They create this ridiculous boogeyman that women are sitting around for 8 months, then suddenly deciding, you know what - I don't want this child after all. It's complete BS. The only person who should decide if a woman can have a third-trimester abortion is her doctor.
As article below notes, only 1.4% of abortions occur in third trimester, and most if not all are for legitimate medical reasons.
See this: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/07/late-term-abortion-29-weeks-dana-weinstein
or this:
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/archaic-texas-abortion-law-forced-couple-carry-dying-fetus-deliver-stillborn-baby/
These laws are cruel, and they don't protect fetuses or women.
ETA: Every right wing religious nut victory only empowers them and brings them further into our government. Appeasement doesn't work with fanatics.
I believe
you ... I just had a friends' wife visit and she is the one that is abortion is horrible nuts like a brother of mine. Speaking for myself I am not interested in women not having a choice whatever the situation is. I have seen what men do to women to control them ... one boyfriend murdered my step daughter and are other daughter has had her life run and financially destroyed by men wanting to control her.
Why vote for any evil, when
Why vote for any evil, when you could vote for a non-corporate Green President AND have your first President who pees sitting down. (Since Hillary supporters find this so essential, regardless of suitability of the individual candidates.)
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
My guess is that half the time Grant was either
too drunk or too sick to pee standing up, but that's pure speculation on my part.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Based on the latest W video, I think he might have been
too drunk to pee standing up most of the time in office!
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88jEBKNKHFA]
you don't have any
argument from me about Jill ... however I do feel it actually will benefit trump when all the chips are counted if they ever do get counted.
yep
whether the president pees sitting down was always so important to me ... kos was so effective in convincing me that hillary was the right choice I fled the site after 10 years in February and since then have spent 5 minutes perusing the gibberish which was 5 minutes too long. BTW in my long career in engineering the two best managers I ever had were women without a doubt ... but they were good people, not corrupt, very competent and ... believe it or not .... NICE. When they got replaced by cronies of executive management the department went downhill very fast and I left shortly thereafter there was no future there any longer
Thanks for this
I don't see any way that Arizona would be for Hillary though. Despite our large Hispanic population, AZ is still Trump central. The retirement communities like Sun City vote at over 80% turnout, by some counts, and so despite our electorate being about 20% Hispanic, the retirees (who overwhelmingly vote Repug and love Trumps stupid fucking wall and anti-immigrant drivel) negate us with their turnout.
That map is very scary
I can work several different ways where neither side gets to 270 and the whole mess lands (is supposed to land) in the House. The question is, will they do their Constitutional duty, or will they find yet another way to fink out of it?
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Indiana will go to Trump.
I guaran fucking tee it.
Word through the grapevine was that at least some of my RW family members there were leaning Bernie over Trump. Who would have ultimately won is anyone's guess, but with Pence now the running mate, against Hillary? No way Trump loses Indiana now. Landslide Hairball Victory.
Had the DNC encouraged Bernie's run rather than shutting him out, rather than disenfranchising his voters, they could have avoided this. Gee, it's almost as if they're trying to lose...
Change is the end result of all true learning. ~ Leo Buscaglia
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