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It appears the worm has turned
Savchenko was only used as a pawn in a prisoner exchange between Ukraine and Russia.
It is interesting that she has now exposed the truth about the Maidan
I expect she may run against Tymoshenko in a bid to replace Poroshenko in the coming elections. This would be a game changer in Ukraine. The west may have to stage another 'intervention'.
you may be right;
and aren't the elections slated for early 2019? but my stars, that link indicates she's all over map, notably on the crimea. i'll read again it later, maybe take your link to the café. thanks, CB. as i read it, yulia's full-on banderist; that your take?
i'd been taken aback by RFE, but at the bottom is: "RFE/RL's Ukrainian Service; The quality and independence of Ukraine's media as a whole are still limited, and RFE/RL's Radio Svoboda is the country's most popular and trusted international broadcaster. Radio Svoboda celebrated its 60th anniversary in 2014.
i'd just been popping in between chores to add this:
It's funny how much you can learn
...in the first 36 hours after such an event. If you pay close attention, you have the whole plot, the aim of the covert operation, the front group, the shooters, the physical evidence, a timeline of the action, the set up, and the nationality of the conspirators.
I specifically recall this in Benghazi, Libya, Russo-Georgian-Osettia attack, Syria's 2013 chemical attack, and Syria's 2017 Chemical attack.
Then, by the 48 hour mark, the facts are forgotten and the news-talkers start making it up. By 72 hours, an entire new narrative is in place, completely devoid of any reality, whatsoever. It's destined for chaos. And because everybody knows what really went down, they are never solved.
There are other incidents that are not obvious in that first 36 hours, for example, cyber attacks or the Skripal attack in the UK. Those require dedicated independent non-state forensics. Similarly, investigations into Flight MH17 and MH370 started strong and then became significantly clueless over time.
Ukraine has always been an open book. Within the first 12 hours we knew who the snipers were, had their photos, knew their nationalities, where they were trained, and when. The propaganda that came out of that event as well as the referendum and reunification of Crimea, I believe, changed America forever. It never let up to this day and has resulted in wide-spread insanity across the land.
The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
Savchenko is not a Banderist
She is a stout Ukrainian nationalist who is willing to use the Banderists who are also ultra nationalists as tools to effect her aims. She had finally realized the western engineered coup only changed the masters to whom Ukraine would serve in the future.
Putin played the Savenchenko affair like a Jujitsu Grand Master. Every time the US thinks they have the upper hand on him, he slips their grip and puts them to the mat - winning in Chechnya, Serbia, Ukraine, Syria and reclaiming the historical Russian jewel, Crimea, as well as turning the sanctions into absolute positives for Russia plus banning all GMO's and drugs in Russia's entire food production. All the west can do is respond with lies and coverups to save face. No wonder the neolibracons have been going apoplectic.
i’d meant that yulia,
the braided one is a banderist. as i’d been reading a lot of phil butler recently, and the open neo-nazi mrches, more rumbles in the rada, etc. but it will say that i’d read your ‘War Hero’ link at rfe again, and it still sounds like standard reuter’s batting against the russians who stole crimea, ‘met with pro-russian separatists’ etc. in fact, just below it was ‘the many faces of savachenko, which was written by christopher miller of the kyiv post (not that it said that). you may remember that amy goodman had outrageously begun having miller and his ilk on her show....
but it does look as though tretyakov was prescient with his insider knowledge and spidey senses, doesn’t it? but he did say:
“Every month this headache will get bigger. She will no longer be sticking her middle finger to a Russian court but to Ukrainian politicians. And she’ll denounce them not to nameless journalists, but to the respected European media. And she’ll spout her nationalistic ideas and slogans a la Bandera, not in a tiny courtroom, but to the members of the European Parliament, causing the number of her distant fans to suddenly drop. “
Savchenko’s extradition will instantly transform her from a problem for Russia to a problem for the Ukraine and the West, which is why it should happen as soon as possible.”
but as you note, she’s kinda playing both ends against each other. now the kyiv post ukraine tab still has any number of “See christine lagarde? we’re really cracking down on corruption so when you get here in sept. you’ll give us enough moolah to be able to join NATO officially!” and ‘a million and a half people have fled the donbass for ukraine!”
but this deserves accolades for being such a stellar analysis:
“Putin played the Savenchenko affair like a Jujitsu Grand Master. Every time the US thinks they have the upper hand on him, he slips their grip and puts them to the mat - winning in Chechnya, Serbia, Ukraine, Syria and reclaiming the historical Russian jewel, Crimea, as well as turning the sanctions into absolute positives for Russia plus banning all GMO's and drugs in Russia's entire food production. All the west can do is respond with lies and coverups to save face. No wonder the neolibracons have been going apoplectic.”
and the people love that nasty thug diktator for giving the finger to....Babylon.
"nasty thug diktator"
You haven't been drinking the koolaide have you?
did i really need to include
a snark tag? i was feting your putin formulation final paragraph . see how easy it is to get cross-wise?
I beg your forgiveness. The anti Putin/Russia propaganda is now so pervasive in the western world it makes me somewhat defensive.
maybe i should have told you
that i'm putin's niece? mother? er...second cousin once-removed? i admit i was taken aback, given my long history of blogging on ukraine since firedoglake days. and yes, i took some heavy grief over it from far too many.
and i believe he and lavrov are exceptional diplomats. but you're utterly forgiven, and i'll even give you tonight's closing song to prove it, ya old black cat, you. sleep well.
1'd also been celebrating your
'ya want nadia? take her!' russia-insider link, cuz my cousin vlad was that prescient in that he knew what she was about.
also, when i'd said this: "and the people love that nasty thug diktator for giving the finger to....Babylon." we hear often that even though some (many?) russians are suffering from the many cruel sanctions the west has laid on them, most of them are still glad that putin is resisting and trying to create a multi-polar world, as is china. and 'giving the finger to Babylon'...babylon is the rasta's name for the capitalist whore amerikan hegemon. hence, 'Café Babylon'.
Babylon system is the vampire, yea! (vampire)
Suckin' the children day by day, yeah!
Me say de Babylon system is the vampire, falling empire,
Suckin' the blood of the sufferers, yeah!
Building church and university, wooh, yeah!
Deceiving the people continually, yeah!
Me say them graduatin' thieves and murderers
Look out now they suckin' the blood of the sufferers
it's also notable that on this tenth anniversary of
john mcCain's war on georgia, The Bear is being trounced again for starting the war. and the bad penny saakasvilli, georgia, ukraine...keeps coming aback, and where he'll stop nobody knows. reminds me of ahmed chalabi in a way: in, out, arrested, freed, in power, out...arrested as a spy for iran or something? well, he'd dead now, i just discovered. the guardian did a puff-piece hagiography for him, sheesh.
‘Too Big to Fail’:
Russia-gate One Year After VIPS Showed a Leak, Not a Hack’, Patrick Lawrence, Special to Consortium News, aug. 13
a few bits:
“None of this has altered the basic case. VIPS and forensic scientists working with it have continued their investigations. New facts, some of which alter conclusions drawn last year, have come to light, and these are to be addressed. But the basic evidence that Russia-gate is a false narrative concocted by various constituents of national power stands, difficult as this is to discern. Scrape back all that is ethically unacceptable and unscrupulously conveyed into the public sphere and you find that nothing has changed: No one “hacked” the Democratic party’s mail in the summer of 2016. It was leaked locally, from what one can make out, to expose the party leadership’s corrupt efforts to sink Bernie Sanders’ insurgent campaign to win the Democratic nomination.” [snip]
“To my knowledge, no one with an understanding of the science involved, including various former skeptics, any longer questions the validity of the specific finding based on the observed transfer rate. That remains the bedrock evidence of the case VIPS and others advance without qualification. “No one—including the FBI, the CIA, and the NSA—has come out against this finding,” Binney said Monday. “Anyone who says the speed we demonstrated can be achieved remotely, our position is ‘Let’s see it. We’ll help any way we can.’ There hasn’t been anyone yet.”
There is also the question of where and when leaks were executed. Research into this has turned out differently.
Evidence last year, based on analysis of the available metadata, showed that the copy operation date-stamped July 5, 2016, took place in the Eastern U.S. time zone. But Forensicator, one of the chief forensic investigators working on the mail-theft case anonymously, published evidence in May that, while there was activity in the Eastern zone at the time of that copy, here was also a copy operation in the Pacific time zone, where clocks run three hours earlier that EST. In an earlier publication he had also reported activity in the Central time zone.
Plainly, more was awaiting discovery as to the when and where of the copy operations. The identity of Guccifer 2.0, who claimed to be a Romanian hacker but which the latest Mueller indictment claims is a construct of the GRU, Russian military intelligence, has never been proven. The question is what G–2.0 did with or to the data in question. It turns out that both more, and less, is known about G–2.0 than was thought to have been previously demonstrated. This work has been completed only recently. It was done by Binney in collaboration with Duncan Campbell, a British journalist who has followed the Russia-gate question closely.”
[the duncan campbell whose 'analyis' was promoted by the queen of the mueller investigation/russiagate marcy wheeler.
"Campbell’s is an important and successful effort to push back against disinformation (and to get Bill Binney and Ray McGovern to back off their support for it). It does the following:' etc.
they ran simulations, looked at file sizes, etc., then:
“But they discovered something else of significance, too. At some point G–2.0 had merged two sets of data, one dated July 5, 2016, which had been known, and another dated the following September 1, which had not been known. In essence, Campbell reverse-engineered G–2.0’s work: He took the sets of data G–2.0 presented as two and combined them back into one. “G–2.0 used an algorithm to make a downloaded file look like two files,” Binney explained. “Those two shuffled back together like a deck of cards.”
“This throws various things into question. The conclusions initially drawn on time and location in VIPS50 are now subject to these recent discoveries. “In retrospect, giving ‘equal importance’ status to data pertaining to the locale was mistaken,” Ray McGovern, a prominent VIPS member, wrote in a recent note. “The key finding on transfer speed always dwarfed it in importance.”
but i guess that's what i'd meant about facts being sometimes movable feasts: sometimes collaboration yields different ways of assessing data, metadata. so i'm glad binney met with the author of the Hit Job/VIPs detractor in good faith; good on him, good on campbell.
From your link
This reminds me of the shit that went down at DKos when it gradually became apparent that we had been hoodwinked by Obama and the rest of the Dims. We were repeatedly told to have faith - we peons simply did not have the intellectual prowess to understand his '11th dimensional chess' moves. "Don't Worry, He's Got it."
yes, ‘russia/putin did it!’
has become a religion to most, derangement syndrome as it is. now we might posit that this empire has always needed an enemy or many enemies to advance itself as both ‘exceptional’ and representing ‘a true democracy’ (which can only be exported by cia/ned/usaid putsches or resource wars by R2P, (wm. blum’s long list). he has a separate list for assassinations.
but yes, NATO was re-purposed to fight the ‘revanchist putin red menace 2.0’, and as we just saw ‘novickok, novichok!’ narratives depend on pre-determined guilt, hence, yes: religious fervor’. and so far the UK's spun so many tales they can't even keep them strait! so far vlad hasn’t taken the bait as countries on the border join Nato, are ‘under Nato’s umbrealla’, etc., but as the world realigns over trade and military alliances, the Dems are increasingly nervous, sensing this may be the Empire in its death throes, lashing out incoherently (w/ the Orange One’s tweeting help).
but i'd add that the reason that the Nato think tank, the atlantic council, is now acting as an advisor to social networking and youtube is directly related. anyone caught 'not promoting the faith' will be ejected without recourse!', but okay, then there's google, too.
julian assange's 'google is not what it seems' a prime example. the photos are priceless, literally. yes he loves 'crushing the bastards'.
funny he’d brought up ‘the pope’, though. the church jettisoned the 'false doctrine?) of fideism as the per the several popes’ beliefs that the existence of gawd can ‘indeed be demonstrated by reason (logos).
addenda from the twittesphere:
“So Facebook donates millions to the Atlantic Council, NATO's propaganda arm, which, in turn, gives Facebook its marching orders as to which accounts to terminate. There's no question: The time has come for a mass exodus from Facebook.” https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-cyber/u-s-think-tanks-tiny-l... …
Our #Facebook page has been removed for the second time this year! @Facebook hasn't provided any actual reason.
@venanalysis venezuelanalysis.com Retweeted teleSUR English
“Outragous! We at @venanalysis offer all our solidarity & cries of rebellion against this repressive action from FB Only days ago, we ourselves were randomly removed from FB, only to be reinstated after popular pressure on social media Enough is enough!”
Israel, Saudis, even Mexico are the big meddlers, not Russia
Imagine how big a deal it would be if people and institutions were actively helping millions of undocumented Russians to enter, and take up residence in, the United States in defiance of the letter of the law.
Imagine cities and even whole states declaring themselves official places of sanctuary for Russians on American soil without proper documents.
Imagine laws being passed making it illegal for state and local employees to assist federal efforts to deal with Russian infiltration in any way.
thanks for turning it around,
but as to your last sentence: isn't congress doing just that? and states making BDS moves illegal as well? although i may be missing your meaning of course in your inside-out world imaginings.
please try not to mind how jumbled this may be, as i just received some fucked up bureaucratic news by email, and am discombobulated, but:
‘The Empire Reads History or Rationalizing the End of Empire’, deena stryker, aug. 11, 2018, journalneo.org:
(her critique of a recent Brooking Institute thesis) oh lawd, i just bingled for and got the link: it’s robert kagan (mr. victorin nuland), thomas wright and comrades: ‘Trump and the crumbling of the US-led world order’ a podcast; she listened to that we don’t have to... i’ll try to include a few pithy bits, but stryker is as verbose as ever. (she used to post at the FDL readers diaries, as i had) she’s no fan of vlad as in: ‘anti-democratic at home’ or close. but onward:
“The postwar task of the US was to “maintain general peace through multi-polar competition”. Brookings’ use of that term is surprising, given that the US is currently pushing back with everything it has against Russia over its implementation of a multi-polar world — but more about that later. Apparently, here’s where the US went wrong: “Having US forces keep the peace by occupying Japan/Germany was too narrow a view of our interests, and when [the first Gulf War] undermined the international order, we realized we had to expand NATO to keep the peace.”
Failing to note that the US uses all of these methods to pushes back against Russia and its ‘authoritarian threat’, Wright explains that: “Putin and Xi fear that liberal democracy could win out over authoritarian rule.” Although NATO has 14,000 troops lined up on Russia’s eastern border, from the Baltic to the Black Sea, Wright claims that: “The military threat to Russia has declined massively. What it fears are a free press and a market economy, which are existential threats to authoritarian regimes”.
Wright’s contribution to political science is to have identified a ‘constant struggle between competing elements of human nature’. Humans are tempted to choose protection and security over freedom, thus democracy is not a natural state, and the enlightened few must constantly struggle to impose it!
In the name of that struggle, the US has the honor of steering things toward “a liberal world order, in which free trade all but guarantees that nations will not go to war” (a theory that also goes back to the days of FDR). Only neo-liberalism (one man, one vote combined with freedom to act) is democratic, even if it results in most benefits going to the 1%. Authoritarians, most of whom in the current age make sure their people are taken care of, are to be condemned for limiting the 1%’s ability to rig the system.” [snip]
“Having snidely critiqued Russia for allowing the Russian majority in Crimea to vote to return to Russia (while failing to note that Crimea had been part of Ukraine only since 1954), Wright does admit that “the US emerged from the Cold War as an unrivaled super-power that sought to maintain and extend its military primacy so that the gap with potential rivals was so large that it would be futile to challenge it”. This policy was enshrined under President Clinton in what came to be known as the Wolfowitz Doctrine, after the name of its author, Paul Wolfowitz, and by removing its bellicose language in December, 2017, Donald Trump set the deep state resolutely against him.
In the Neo-conservative playbook, the US was forced to be the world cop ‘because if we don’t lead, no one else will’, in the words of Clinton’s bellicose Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. (This claim gave rise to the now ubiquitous phrase ‘stepping up to the plate’, a reference to the batter’s position in the all-American sport of baseball..) In a new take on the benevolent hegemon...”
“In case the reader is not convinced: “The survival of the U.S.-led order would eventually become decoupled from American primacy because once non-Western powers had converged with it, they would not go back. A democratic Russia and China would carry forward the neoliberal mantle inherited from the US.”
well you get the gist of it.
for posterity re: the VIPS
and the Intercept's yellow journalism:
‘RussiaGate Redux Part Three: Smears & Distortions’, Adam Carter - November 14th, 2017
The Intercept, by James Risen & Duncan Campell (with contributions from Sam Biddle) co-authored an article published in The Intercept on 7th November, 2017, titled: "CIA Director Met Advocate of Disputed DNC Hack Theory — at Trump’s Request"
“While you can't see it in the article, if you look at the source code of the page, you can see the description given for the article for social media sites, which states:
Mike Pompeo sought “facts” from NSA whistleblower William Binney, who says the 2016 theft of DNC emails was an inside job, not a Russian hack.
What Binney had to share were literal facts, so the entire point of writing "facts" as a quotation like this only serves to unduly undermine things and degrade perceptions of the meeting, even without people needing to click on the link to the article.
The article itself, fortunately starts out on a more promising tone. It covers some of the details of the meeting. However, it isn't long before they give themselves a reason to insinuate that Binney may have allegiance with Fox News (mostly because he has made 10 appearances in a 14 month period).” [large snip]
‘Binney’s claim that the email theft was committed by an insider at the DNC also helps fuel one of the more bizarre conspiracy theories that has gained traction on the right: that the murder of a young DNC staffer last year was somehow connected to the data theft. Binney said he mentioned the case of Seth Rich to Pompeo during their meeting.’
"I think after all this time, the amount of fuel it would add to the conspiracy theory would be minimal. As time has gone on and more has been discovered, the premise that Seth Rich could have been murdered for reasons relating to him being a whistle-blower has actually become less bizarre than the premise that Guccifer 2.0 was a genuine Russian hacker.
The theory that Seth was killed for such a reason is far from exclusively held by the right-wing. Many progressives also want answers on this topic.
Escalating the spin further...
‘The meeting raises questions about Pompeo’s willingness to act as an honest broker between the intelligence community and the White House, and his apparent refusal to push back against efforts by the president to bend the intelligence process to suit his political purposes.’
‘Instead of acting as a filter between Trump and the intelligence community, Pompeo’s decision to meet with Binney raises the possibility that right-wing theories aired on Fox News and in other conservative media can now move not just from conservative pundits to Trump, but also from Trump to Pompeo and into the bloodstream of the intelligence community.’
"This paragraph tries to suggest that Pompeo's capacity to act as a filter between Trump's influence and the intelligence community completely falls apart if Trump suggests that Pompeo speak with US intelligence veterans about research, evidence, test results, etc.
It then tries to insinuate that Binney peddles "right-wing theories", drags in Fox News and "conservative media" and attempts to fear-monger using this inexcusable, melodramatic misrepresentation of circumstances.”
later, Newsweek and the WSJ... but carter’s correct that some commenters at the Intercept called the site for its yellow journalism. who needs Marcy Wheeler @ Emptywheel when the Intercept can publish this mess?