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Azazello's picture

here: TYT, YouTube
naked capitalism is doing a live blog starting at 9 Eastern, try this link: nakedcapitalism.com
I watch this one, the Arizona Secretary of State: azsos.gov/elections
Arizona results will be posted there first, starting in about 2 hours at 8 PM local.

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As I'm only watching what happens in Michigan I get real results from https://mielections.us/election/results/2018GEN_CENR.html

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@Pricknick @Pricknick
Secretary of state will only post completed results for each county.
My bad.
All three proposals are currently winning.
Legalize Marijuana
Citizen Redistricting
Enhanced Voter Registration

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Went and voted because of some shady ballot initiatives that needed to be defeated but I didn't have a single person or thing to vote for.

Not one.

I've been tapping out for a while now because I've just been so disgusted and discouraged by my lack of any real choice. (but I missed you guys so bad to pop in at least today!)

I'm tired of choosing between a throat punch and a kick in the nads.

Other than that hows everyone been? Smile

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@Alphalop

It's good to see you again. Hope things are going well for ya.

I don't watch the returns anymore. Just don't see the point. Read a tweet about a democrat running on helping Bush with the Iraq war plans. Yay! Vote for me,

Another tweet was Barbra Streisand saying that Bush really wasn't that bad of a president after all.

I'm not making this up.

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@snoopydawg @snoopydawg @snoopydawg

How deeply the Regan Republicans have infiltrated the democratic party.

I gave up any hope for change when they stole the primary from the progressives and nobody did anything.

Until there is a third party or some paradigm altering event I don't so the point in even participating in this farce anymore.

My sole litmus test for candidates in this cycle was if they were an incumbent I was voting against them regardless of party.

The sole exception being the Scott/Nelson race.

Nelson may be useless but I'm positive Scott is a reptilian... Smile

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@Alphalop

Guess his vote for Kavanaugh* helped swing the election for him. /s

"Good! He may not be my sort of Democrat but he’s a Democrat — and that’s all that counts at this point!"

Yep. He's a democrat so it's all good. Even though he votes with republicans most of the time, but he lives in a deep red state so this is what we can expect from those types of democrats right?

I cannot wrap my brain around this type of thinking.

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@snoopydawg it's like they are all asleep.

We really need Rowdy Roddy Piper to go around one at a time, kick thier assess and make them put on the glasses... Smile

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@Alphalop
An Alphalop live election thread.

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Gëzuar!!
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@Bollox Ref

I thought about it but I honestly could care less if the democrats take the house and senate (and doubt it will happen, I didn't think they'd have their blue wave).

I decided if I did one my lack of passion and excitement would show and it wouldn't be worth reading. Heh...

I'm glad af surprised someone actually remembered them. Smile

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@Alphalop

https://old.reddit.com/live/11wqe9peddka8

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@Alphalop
GOP holds Ryan's seat, and Grothman gets re-elected.

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@Alphalop

I’m not following the election coverage tonight either.

Our next door neighbors had a large diamondback rattlesnake on their back patio last night, right by their back door. Their new puppy was nearly bitten when she opened the door to let him out, but she saw the snake in time and got the pup back in the door and quickly closed it.

The snake was then all riled up, and began striking at the glass door and rattling like mad. It was quite agitated. Usually when I’ve seen them they are lying stretched out or hiding under a bush. This guy was really upset and angry. She videoed the thing and texted it to us while waiting for the emergency snake removal guy to get there. Scary as hell.

I’ve spent today wondering if we should sell this house and move farther into town. We won’t. But my feelings of safety at our home have been shaken with this reminder. I worry about our dogs. We have “snakeproofed” the back yard, but it’s not completely secure and never will be. Sigh.

It’s a silly problem I suppose. But it somehow feels more real and significant than the elections.

How have you been? What’s new?

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@CS in AZ

I have a black racer that lives on my property which helps keep away other poisonous snakes (they eat other snakes and reptiles).

I keep a little 22 pistol with snake loads on it just in case though, had a much bigger problem with them in Nevada but if I move into the county that could change.

Not a lot new here, just been doing a bit of woodworking and still fighting to get the cops to do something about a contractor that stole an $8k deposit from me.

Thay and thinking I may need to sell my home.

The city decided we needed city water and sewer in our neighborhood (even though nobody wanted it) and they are charging us about $28k for the privilege. (plus 3 more bills that I didn't have for water, sewer and irrigation.)

This translates out to an additional $330/mo to my housing expenses which I simply can't afford on my pension.

It's bad enough that they make you assume a service you neither want nor need, but to have to pay for the construction of it via special property tax assessment is just weak.

It's like if Dominos showed up at my house with one of thier shitty pizzas that I didn't order and expected me to pay not only for it but the car they drove it over in.

Not sure what to do other than sell.

Sucks too because all my fruit trees I planted when I bought the home are now nice and mature and really cranking out the fruit, lol!

I think I need to find a new planet, this one's broken.

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@Alphalop
I'm sure it's occurred to you already, but couldn't that be a galvanizing issue for you to coalesce your community around in solidarity against the local government (assuming it's neighborhood-wide)?

If everyone's in the same boat maybe there's a movement waiting to be coalesced.

Just galls me to see how little power we have in these instances.

I should talk. I've been incensed for years about how arbitrary it seems Con Edison, the monopoly power company for NYC, tallies up our monthly bills. I live on the top floor of a 3 story building which gets ample sunlight all day, that I hardly ever turn on a light during the daytime. Yet my bills are still ridiculous. Have a friend who used to be abroad for half the year, but still her bills would be not inconsiderable.

It's organized crime. The fucking CEO of ConEd makes something like $15 million a year! Is that what we're paying for? Just another clear reminder that any sector of which we all rely upon should be a publicly-owned non-profit. Not to mention if we didn't waste trillions (TRILLIONS!) of dollars on the Defense Budget/Pentagon imperialism, AND, started collecting all the Wall St and Corporate America criminal money laundered offshore in tax havens, we could pay for all this shit, including free healthcare and college, many times over.

"The table's tilted; the game's rigged. And nobody seems to care," as St. George Carlin said.

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FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
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@Mark from Queens oh, there was lots of opposition.

We fought them for almost 10 years but they finally expanded everywhere else.

Their biggest claim was they had to expand it to make it "cost effective".

Not very cost effective for me or my one neighbor of almost 10 years ago just had to sell his house.

They had a new baby 2 years ago and couldn't afford it either.

This was an amazing neighborhood built around a school with shopping in walking distance while still feeling secluded, a rarity for a solid blue collar neighborhood.

That's problem most likely.

Was too nice of a place for the poors, better price them out...

Meh, I'm becoming a conspiracy wacko....

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@Alphalop
a 100% Michigan legal volcano bag for you.
Soon as it's official I'll share the vibes long distance.

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@Pricknick it's looking good!

I'm already puffing away in support! Smile

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@Alphalop

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@Alphalop
"shoot on" -- also variously called "three and you're in" or "five and you're in".

one person played goalie, and the rest of the kids took turns shooting on the goalie -- usually, a rubber ball or tennis ball, shot with a hockey stick. whoever scored three (or five) goals switched places with the goalie, and the counts were reset. the only protective gear the goalie had was a stick (rarely a goalie stick) and a baseball mitt.

needless to say, the shot to the nads was the ever-present and always-feared outcome. once, however, i took a tennis ball right on the adam's apple. that was an eye-opener, literally. my eyes went wide, but for a few seconds i could not see -- or at least, i couldn't see what was in front of me. instead, i saw pastel spirals, just like in the cartoons.

one of the most frightening moments of my life, as waited those few seconds for my vision to switch back on.

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The Majority Report
Chapo Trap House on Twitch
TYT
#ElectionNight on Twitter

With quick drop-ins to CNN, MSNBC, and Hellworld (Fox News).

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@cybrestrike

The big blue wave looks like a yellow puddle. Biggrin

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@cybrestrike
the only place I'd probably go to watch coverage (having Jimmy Dore on would have sealed the deal, otherwise not so sure, especially if they've got that superlame Neoliberal douche with the beard, Michael Shure maybe?). Amy with Scahill and Greenwald (presumably, or Lee Fang, or maybe Brihanna Gray even?) would also be good.

But I really do, for the maybe the first time I can remember ever since first starting to really follow politics intensely, not have any interest in following it tonight. It's like facing an addiction. Or getting word that coffee, spicy/acidic food and alcohol are bad for you. I've had to cut some of that stuff out (acid reflux) but haven'e been able to do all of it, so gave up at least one of the vices and sharply cut down the others. Gave up politics on this Midterm Election Night. Not even tempted to pull up those incredible NY Times up-to-the-minute poll results. It's all pro sports-style coverage now.

So I'm glad in a way for those who are, so you can filter out all the BS for us.

But cyberstrike, you still dig Sam Seder? He and the other guy David Packman lost me, when they went on the attack against Dore. Nope. Liked 'em both. But it's been building for a while. Their Neoliberal colors have being shining through much too bright these past couple of years, and they fell for the $hilling when the chips were down. Done with them both.

Best Of The Left podcast leans a little too much on Packman. Really like BOTL, but haven't listened in some time. Wonder if he's still heavy on Packman and Seder. Or is he bringing in more progressive, radical voices like Kyle Kulinski, the Rational National, Tim Black, Lee Camp, and of course, Jimmy Dore, who is still my go-to guy? Citations Needed, with Adam Johnson, who writes for FAIR among others, is excellent too.

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THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"

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@Mark from Queens
We watched that earlier for a second or two. Both of us said, at the same time, "He looks like Trotsky." Doesn't he ?

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@Mark from Queens

It's like facing an addiction. Or getting word that coffee, spicy/acidic food and alcohol are bad for you. I've had to cut some of that stuff out (acid reflux) but haven'e been able to do all of it, so gave up at least one of the vices and sharply cut down the others. Gave up politics on this Midterm Election Night. Not even tempted to pull up those incredible NY Times up-to-the-minute poll results. It's all pro sports-style coverage now.

I can relate to every part of this. But I have to say, I’m finding it far easier to give up political team sports than spicy foods or alcohol. I don’t like the taste of coffee but I did enjoy caffeine in other vehicles. That was the one I pretty much gave up. So far.

Quitting politics... well, that would be a lot more difficult without c99%. But for me it is not so hard really because I don’t like team sports anyway so it wasn’t a big leap once I realized what is going on. Which took awhile. I really do regret right now every dollar and minute of my time that I devoted to electing mr hope n change. I was so filled with happiness and excitement about politics and the future on election night 2008. Ten years after... and I’m just done. 2016 was the end of the line for me, I saw behind the curtain and now it just doesn’t work anymore.

Grateful for c99 and a place to say freely that I don’t give a shit about this election or if “we” vote “them” out or not. I’m not part of the “we” in that sentence. I’m just looking forward to a reprieve from the relentless harassment and political advertising.

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@CS in AZ
Republican Rodney Glassman is leading the race for Arizona corporation commission.
Why do these fools keep electing Republicans to the ACC ?
Did you notice your gas bill went up last month ? Mine did.
Southwest Gas got a rate increase. Those rates have to be approved by the ACC.
Put Republicans in there and what do think is gonna' happen ?
All rate increases approved! That's what.

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@Azazello

I said I expected he would win, now that he’s openly republican. Don’t ask me to explain it. He’s a smarmy shit bag.

How’s Kyrsten doing against McSally? Are we going to have a new independent-republican maverick senator? Or a RWNJ?

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@CS in AZ
six of one ...

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I'm trying to watch coverage on TV - boring. Think I will put in my buds and turn on TYT.

On TV, Dems are losing their asses. Talking heads are crediting Trump for campaigning for them. Guess the big blue wave is trickling down on them....

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@dkmich I actually hope they manage to lose the house.

I don't want the neolibs to have even an inch of credibility.

They need to go far, far away.

Hades would suffice...

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DWS projected to win. FL going to GOP.

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@dkmich

I soo wanted to see DWS Go Away. She apparently cheated again during the primary with Tim. I hope he looks into the results.

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Not.

$Romney is the projected winner for Borin Orrin's seat. 49-46 over Jenny Wilson.

Medical marijuana is winning big time. Whohoo! The Mormon church came out against it of course. They want a pharmacist to dispense it at local medical examiners offices. Yeah right. Like any one could legally do that without losing their license. Let's wait and see if the guv will sign it into law or the legislature will change it to their 'compromise' legislation. 37-62%

Another whohoo. Mia Love (R-Koch) is losing to Ben McAdams (D) big time. Mia did stand up to Trump over immigration. Her parents came from Haiti.

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@snoopydawg I'm really surprised to hear Love losing!

I have not checked any of our results yet.

'Sup Alphalop?

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This shit is bananas.

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@Daenerys

Here's the link to KSL if you're interested. Not much movement on medical marijuana but it's still up by a good margin.

Oh FFS! This fcuking state.

Regardless of the final outcome of the vote, however, state lawmakers are expected to convene soon in an effort to pass a compromise bill agreed to by major supporters and opponents of Proposition 2, effectively replacing the ballot initiative.

Opposition to the initiative intensified in late summer. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in August urged the state's voters to reject Proposition 2 and emailed its Utah members with the same message.

At that time, the church joined a broad coalition that included state lawmakers, business leaders, the Utah Medical Association and the Utah Sheriff's Association to say that while there is a recognizable benefit to medical marijuana, Proposition 2 did not include enough safeguards to protect against troublesome youth access and unfettered recreational use.

Beginning in September, Utah House Speaker Greg Hughes convened private talks between the initiative campaign, the Utah Medical Association, the church and others to see whether a compromise could be reached.

So much for the will of the voters. Who the hell made this decision? I certainly didn't and don't want it made. Why the hell vote then if they can do whatever they want? The Moran church should have no say in this. Whatever. My pain doc is okay with it. Safeguards so Troublesome Youth can't get access to it. Hello? Young people have been smoking it since like forever and know where to get it. Read the article and see how stupid this is.

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@Daenerys

You know, just living the dream down here in America's Dong.. Smile

Was really hoping Schultz and Scott would lose.

How do people keep voting for these openly corrupt scum?!?

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I'm just hoping Wardlow loses also

Minnesota

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

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All Dems winning except a couple of House races. Governor is the one I really cared about so I'm happy with it.

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This shit is bananas.

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@Daenerys

Thank goodness. Johnson was a libertarian asshole.

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Gëzuar!!
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Another Dem politician whose loss I won't mourn.

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The drama of the deep state in full factional meltdown makes Mario Puzo look like a dime store hack.

@Not Henry Kissinger
"i'm not one of those crazy democrats"

yeah, i'm sure that won her a lot of votes from right-wing independents. except of course that anyone with even the teensiest bit of sense (e.g., your average right-wing independent) could see the craven disloyalty in that remark and would presumably view the utterer with the contempt so entirely deserved.

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@Not Henry Kissinger

as did gilligan and I think Kasich . Haven't heard if Nelson beat Scott or not. Some choice.

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Here's a little something to make you laugh.

Couple pics of me at Burning Man getting ready to go on a midnight walkabout through a dust storm.

Let's play a game.

How many substances was this guy on? Lol!

Couldn't get them to embed from my phone

http://imgur.com/a/8C5lHyI

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@Alphalop

Ready for anything.

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The 1%. They always win.

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@JtC

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the primary to challenge Scott Walker, is going to lose.

He's down by a couple of thousand votes, and the remaining uncounted precincts are almost all red.

Poor Dane County finds itself again, leading the charge, with no support from behind. Turnout was extraordinary -- looks like about 290K, compared with about 255K in 2014. Milwaukee County, on the other hand, saw a drop (though a much bigger drop for Walker than for the Dem).

8 long years we've been at the mercy of this gangster, and it's going to go on for another 4. pardon me while i puke.

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@UntimelyRippd

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The drama of the deep state in full factional meltdown makes Mario Puzo look like a dime store hack.

@Not Henry Kissinger
I don't know how evers pulled it out at the end, i went to bed rather than watch the last numbers trickle in. Since I didn't take a snapshot before going to bed, I don't know where those votes came from. There are one or two southwestern counties that turned blue to red later in the evening. When I hit the sack, the blue/red map looked almost identical to 2014, except for two counties -- Kenosha (near the Foxconn plant) and one of the southwest counties. This morning, looks like Evers ended up almost sweeping the southwest, which implies to me that the outstanding precincts there must have been mostly urban (including two UW college towns, Platteville and Lacrosse).

Still, it was an enormous comeback for him across a sea of outstanding red precincts in the rural north. I think Evers was down 1,000 votes with the two of them sitting at around 1,150,000 each. The final tally is 1,324,648 to 1,293,799, so Evers took the last 300K votes with a very large margin -- 175K to 125K. When I hit the sack, I didn't think there were still 300K votes out there, and I'm actually a bit mystified as to where they all came from.

Hmm, okay, so I just checked and they're reporting 394K votes cast in Milwaukee county. However, when I tuned out last night, Milwaukee was showing 100% of precincts counted, and fewer votes cast than in 2014 (which was 368K). So I don't know what the hell happened, but that explains almost everything. I remember that when I checked, Evers had about 8K fewer Milwaukee votes than Mary Burke won in 2014, while Walker had 16K fewer -- so, a net gain for the Dems, but not nearly enough to bridge the 136K vote gap from 2014. This morning, they're showing Evers with 32K more votes than Burke, and Walker with 8K fewer. That's the whole difference, right there. Evers gained 32K votes on Walker in Milwaukee after I thought the county was done. Which happens to be, BTW, almost exactly the margin by which he won.

So, i don't know. I was driving to work thinking how tired I am of living in this political prison that Wisconsin voters have built for all of us, cinder block by cinder block, out of their hatred, ignorance, selfishness, fear, and general contempt for humanity. Now, we've got a divided government. In fact, the Republicans gained seats in the state senate, and will probably hold steady or gain in the assembly. Just to give you a sense of how egregiously gerrymandered this state is, consider that the "outgoing" assembly, elected in 2016, had a 64-35 Republican majority despite the fact that the state's electorate is just about as evenly split across the duopoly as one can imagine. The loss of the Senate seats (staggered 4 year terms) almost guarantees that, even in the face of an actual Blue wave in 2020, the GOP will have control of the redistricting process after the 2020 census. Oh, joy.

Similarly, our congressional representation is 5-3 GOP, despite Baldwin's handy Senate victory. (Nobody even bothered to run against Democrat Mark Pocan, who won 300K+ votes, while Gwen Moore took the District 1 seat with 208K versus 60K GOP, 7K "other".)

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https://www.rt.com/on-air/

Lee Camp talks about the situation of truth-telling only being allowed outside the U.S. mainstream media.
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/were-in-a-new-age-of-mccarthyism/

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@lotlizard

fixing the economy getting Trump's taxes! Yay and whooopie! Go democrats! Great to see you back with the gavel Nancy.

Snotty beat Nelson so all of the old folks in Florida can look forward to having their SS and Medicare gutted. Great job. No seriously. What the hell were you thinking Well done.

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@snoopydawg

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@snoopydawg he who counts the votes always win

it's all one big hollywood script written by
dhs

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In 2008 $27tril was created outta air, where did it go
not for infrastructure, not for schools, not for student
debt, not for universal healthcare, 8 mil foreclosed on.
Nope it went to those that committed the massive fraud

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@mimi  
versions the other day, I had occasion to ponder the amount of cash — 140 marks — Emil Tischbein’s mom was having him take to grandma.

One hundred and forty Reichsmark (RM 140) in 1931 — what would that be worth in today’s dollars? It depends heavily on what one uses as a measure of constant value.

One inflation-tracking website using conventional exchange rates pegs the amount at a bit more than $740.

This website, on the other hand, uses historical precious-metal prices and Swedish statistics re purchasing power and hourly wages to come up with answers ranging from around $480 to as high as $2800:
http://www.historicalstatistics.org/Currencyconverter.html

No matter which figure one takes, that’s a lot of money for a kid as innocent and inexperienced as Emil to be carrying around in cash!

It’s about the Benjamins — about those pinholes in the Benjamins, to be precise. Too bad for Mister “Grundeis.”

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@lotlizard @lotlizard

What's a Benjamin?

I don't understand the meaning of your last sentence. Sigh. I never learn.

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@mimi

Wikipedia:

The United States one hundred-dollar bill ($100) is a denomination of United States currency. Statesman, inventor, diplomat, and American founding father Benjamin Franklin is featured on the obverse of the bill.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

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@TheOtherMaven

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With regards to Sam Seder...i do have issues with him being a bit too center left for my liking, but he actually does have a good read into what conventional liberals are thinking at the moment.

Michael Brooks and Jamie Peck are also a good reason why I listen to the show. The Antifada podcast and the Michael Brooks Show are pretty decent, imo.

I ignore the Jimmy Dore/Sam Seder beef. It's a fight over tactics. And I see fights like that to be administrative minutia in regards to the struggle against fascism and neoliberalism.

I haven't watched David Pakman since he made some very questionable statements about Bernie Sanders and leftism in general.

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