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A copy of The Imperial Cruise by author James Bradley was gifted to me last year by an 80+ year old Marine who lived close enough by to be considered a neighbor. Never met an ex-marine or a retired marine, the ones I a have met, at any age, consider themselves a Marine. We had many discussions over the years on our beliefs regarding politics, foreign interventions and military service. This was the book that convinced him to discourage his Grandson from following the family tradition of military service. I just found out he has passed, it seems appropriate to recognize the evolution of peoples beliefs and values as they become aware of greater scope of information.

The last question from the audience in the video below is regarding how the American public was kept uninformed of the foreign policy implications of the voyage.

The question is you know back in 1905 what was the coverage? In 1905 this was front page news, the President's daughter was off to Asia. But the reporters new very little about Asia. When this Imperial Cruise landed in China there were huge demonstrations. There were anti-American posters all over the walls. There were posters mocking Alice Roosevelt. The New York Times wrote there were disgusting placards. They never filled the American public in. So all they wrote about were sumo matches, successful trips and lunches. They detailed about what Alice Roosevelt wore, how many trunks of clothes she had, she changed at 3 pm for this reception, she put on a dress and blah, blah blah.

Then they replayed Taft's speeches. You know the Manila Chamber of Commerce told Taft it is on the brink of economic collapse. Taft got up and made a speech about how we are going to build railroads in the Philippines. The Philippines are a nation of 7,000 islands. The press just portrayed the administrations line. Which was how the press worked in 1905, was not exactly investigative journalism.

[video:https://youtu.be/D0AJ59vqzzg?t=246]
(starts at 4.06 mark total length 51 min)

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Geographical implication of island of Formosa (Taiwan) for Japan and United States.

As tensions rise between Japan and China, is Tokyo backing a loser in Taiwan? July 13, 2021

This specific region is the centre stage of where any war involving China will take place and its fate is likely to indicate who will win, and who will lose. Recently declassified documents concerning the US ‘Indo-Pacific strategy’ set out by Donald Trump’s administration imagined a war scenario and indicated that preventing China from ‘dominating’ this island chain was a key objective.

If China reunifies with Taiwan, it automatically controls this region and as a result, immediately assumes military hegemony over Japan. This is why Tokyo is becoming increasingly vocal on the issue.

In some ways, history is repeating itself. Japan annexed Taiwan from the Qing Dynasty following the Sino Japanese war in 1895, an occupation which lasted 50 years. Seizing Taiwan was the first objective in Tokyo’s broader aggression against Beijing.

However, this time round Japan is the weaker, defensive power, even though it’s important to acknowledge that a conflict between the US, China, Taiwan and Japan is highly unlikely, not least because of the scale of economic integration between them. Japan thrives on the Chinese market and there’s no getting away from this.

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Unites State track record of intervention in the Chinese Civil War has not been filled with outstanding successes. Gary Brecher in his April 12, 2021 article The War Nerd: Taiwan — The Thucydides Trapper Who Cried Woof cover many past attempts and future possibilities.

It’s a full-time job, keeping track of the US/NATO campaign to start a fire somewhere on China’s borders. It’s like tracking an inept arsonist by satellite image: “Oh, there he goes again…the idiot started a trash fire next to a concrete wall.”

Of course, no one who matters in the defense business wants total war with China. They just want to keep those trash fires burning, hoping one of them will blaze up big, like a gender-reveal wildfire. And even if none of them do, it’s good for business, because most war scares are about funding. The US Navy always, always wants more ships. What’s scarce is plausible reasons to buy them.
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Only Taiwan offers any hope to US military planners. And even that hope isn’t much. Back in the 1950s, US intel had high hopes that the remnants of the Kuomintang in Taiwan could be used to stage a Pacific D-Day, storming the beaches of Fujian and overthrowing the Communists. US rightists even had a slogan, “Unleash Chiang Kai-Shek,” which was kind of like threatening to unleash your Papillon-Shih-Tzu cross on the Lion Safari Park next door.

Truman listened to his saner generals and announced in 1950 that the US wouldn’t intervene in China/Taiwan disputes over the Formosa Straits. But the US elite was deeply factionalized even then, at the height of American power, and powerful elements of the DoD weren’t willing to let China alone.

MacArthur’s open 1951 revolt in Korea showed that elite commanders were willing to use nukes (34 of them, to be exact) to get rid of the CCP.

A real war with China was off the table, once the US military lost its 1950s infatuation with nukes, for the simple reason that nukes were the only possible way the US could win a war with China. The USSR came to the same conclusion during its 1969 border war with China, and may even have sounded out the US for permission to use these taboo weapons against Mao.

The only real scenario which offers US forces a chance to accomplish anything in military terms depends on China invading Taiwan. That’s the only reason you see so many articles in the Anglo media asking hopefully, “Will China Invade Taiwan?” I swear, they’re like kids on Christmas Eve, dreaming that Chinese fleets will swarm the Formosa Straits, making the Americans’ obsolete naval and air assets meaningful again.
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Very few of these articles bother much with what’s going on in China itself. China is just The Enemy, the red force in some Fort-Irwin scenario that gives aspiring officers a chance to shine. The thing is, and it’s weird you even have to say this: China is a big strong country coming out of an era of deep national humiliation and suffering, proud of its new prosperity. China’s success in lifting a desperately poor population into something like prosperity will likely be the biggest story from this era, when the canonical histories get distilled.

A nation hitting this stage is likely to include a lot of people, especially young men, who are itching to show what their country can do. Their patriotic eagerness is no doubt as gullible as most, but it’s real, and if you pay any attention in the online world, you can’t help seeing it.
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If you know any recent Chinese history, any at all, then the PRC’s desire to reintegrate Taiwan doesn’t seem a very aggressive or frightening development, for the simple reason that the US used to be the most fierce advocate of Taiwan/Mainland China unity, to the point of madness. Until Nixon and Kissinger abandoned Taiwan for Beijing, the US was, to use a newspaper word, “adamant” that there was only one China.

And even after the big visit, years passed before the US acknowledged publicly that the PRC existed. Until 1979 — 1979! — the US insisted with a straight face that Chiang Kai-Shek’s exiled elite in Taiwan were the only legitimate government of China, all China, from Xinjiang to Taipei. The PRC did not exist. There was no US diplomatic representation in Beijing, no official contact. Everything had to be done by a farcical go-between, usually some European country willing to concede that Taiwan did not actually rule in Beijing.

At this point, the US/NATO elite believed more strongly than the PRC elite does now that there is only one China — that the mainland and Taiwan were part of the same country. That was the whole basis for ignoring the PRC.

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The Australian 60 minutes propaganda video provided by CB had an odd segment. First time I had seen the idea of a Democratic Commonwealth proposal for Taiwan with potentially Japan and South Korea. The discussion even included an invitation for America, Australia and Canada. Grant Newsham featured in the program is a regular contributor in Asia Times pushing for greater Japanese participation in military action on behalf of Taiwan.

[video:https://youtu.be/kA2KaEKs1LA?t=873]

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What is on your mind today? (Responses to Covid questions and dialog to be conducted at The Dose diary)

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That it is ever harder to keep a handle on the facts or what is true.
With that in mind I will post a link this news article from the BBC with no further comment.
link to article from BBC about false reporting in science

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@jbob I little late in getting the other Open Thread posted. - Thanks

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action. The ambitious cleaning and greening of China..

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In 2018, China, for the first time, incorporated ecological advancement into its Constitution.

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2021-10-09/Beautiful-China-Promoting-eco-civi...

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Taiwan marks October 10, when the anti-imperial revolution began in China, as its national day, and President Tsai Ing-wen will give a keynote address in Taipei on Sunday.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/9/xi-vows-taiwan-reunification-bu...

Thanks for the OT!

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@QMS through the ADIZ zone. Many of stories imply warnings for the island of the flights, yet most flights are performed in the southeast corner of the zone not noticeable to citizens on Taiwan.

A glance at the graphics released by Taipei’s MOD, and at a map, shows that the majority of the flights stayed well over 160 kilometers south of Taiwan. Even so, and even at this distant range, the Chinese flights were “intruding” into Taiwan’s Air Defense Identification Zone, or ADIZ.

According to the Convention on International Aviation, a state “has complete and exclusive sovereignty over the airspace above its territory.” That means airspace directly above its land and its territorial waters, which extend 12 nautical miles (22 kilometers) from its coastline.

An ADIZ is an entirely different matter. Declared unilaterally, an ADIZ, in which a state requires aircraft to identify themselves, is not governed or enforced by any international law. Taiwan’s ADIZ covers far more than the air space above its land or even its outlying islands: It overlays the entire Taiwan Strait and large chunks of southern China.

“There is a substantial difference,” between an ADIZ and air space said Newsham. “Flying down towards the southern end of ADIZ is not the same as flying closer to Formosa (Taiwan). And that’s why I tend to see this particular incident as a ‘demonstration.’

“Taiwan’s ADIZ is enormous – its stretches over 1000 miles of sea space – so there is an element of hyperbole in the statements from the Taiwan MOD,” added Neill. “Most of these patrols show patterns – they are patrolling across key strategic air corridors which would be part of a campaign to deter the US from intervening.”

I am encouraged environmental issues are now being included in the 5 year plans. thanks for the graphics highlighting the issue.

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Seeing that China can update their constitution to adapt to real time changes.
Would that it were we could do the same.
Thanks soe.
Cheers

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The proper participle is "given". "gifted" is an adjective. "gift" is a noun. "give" is the verb.

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

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@The Voice In the Wilderness where students may once again are not required to prove they can read, write, or do math.

SB 744 did not alter or remove the existing and continued requirement, in state law, that Oregonian high school students must obtain at least 24 credits, including in English, mathematics and science classes, in order to get a high school diploma

The same standards used for decades in Oregon schools obtaining credits for a diploma. In many parts of Oregon it simply became push the students to the next grade level until they have a diploma. Multiple choice and True/False tests do not require the ability to compose a sentence or knowledge of grammar. Auditory memorization of class lectures is adequate to pass.

My Mother graduated from the same High School as myself. She credited her reading nursery rhymes and children's books to her us for her ability to read. I taught my sister to read after doing some Teacher's Aide work grading tests in my Senior year. First time I became aware many of my classmates could not compose a sentence. The AP English class was primarily a refresher on sentence structure and grammar. Passing with an A did provide me a pass from taking any writing or reading comprehension course at Oregon State.

My Webster's dictionary is old. Gifted is still described as a past tense of the verb gift or along with its use as an adjective.

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Hope you are all having a lovely day. It is beautiful here after a week of rain. Time to harvest the first bed of sweet potatoes...test dig looked very good yesterday. Bought a little hand scythe from the antique tool vendor at trade day this AM. I've just pulled the vines in the past, thinking cutting them will ease the harvest. How did your taters turn out? Didn't turn out at all, we had to dig 'em.

Wish we had some livestock to feed the sweet tater vines instead of just composting them, but at least they will be cycled.

The US uses war to stimulate a failed economy. My fear is the aggression against China is a last ditch effort to prevent total economic collapse in the central banking system. My hope (though it will be painful) is the banking system will crumble prior to attacking China.

Smedley is a good example of a marine that came to see US aggression for what it is..."a racket".

Thanks for the OT. Hope all is well on your homestead!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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@Lookout I am waiting for the frost to melt before heading out to continue the winterizing the irrigation system.

Those vines would be a treat. My critters have been enjoying the season end clearing of the vegetable garden.

China, US and banks none of the options are pain free for us.

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https://www.the-sun.com/news/3824729/lebanon-blackout-no-power-light/

How much longer will the world tolerate the US Blockade and Sanctioning of Lebanon? Syria? Iran? Venezuela? Cuba? etc. Siege tactics. Deaths and suffering as the GOAL.

How long? Not much longer. At least that is my hope.

Russia/China BRI will ease suffering.

Clogged US and UK ports may demonstrate what deprivation feels like to the people being deprived. Will that understanding be extended to the USA, that in its endless quest for Power and Profit, is the cause of our own destruction? Very doubtful.

Propaganda may lead us to all out war and away from an understanding that What WE Do is being done to us. "Turn about is fair play," unlikely to be observed.

Added for LOL value. Headline today "US 'Committed' To Open-Ended Occupation Of Syria As Countries Begin Normalization With Assad."

Hahaha. Russia has 2 giant military bases on the coast of Syria and we lost all credibility there and power of any kind at all, long ago. pathetic losers, time to bring every American out of Syria.

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@NYCVG is intolerable. It is so ironic we are hoping "our enemies" assist in improving Lebanese citizen's lives.
from the referenced article.

Several measures have been launched in a desperate bid to keep the lights on.

Lebanon has reached an agreement towards bringing Jordanian electricity and Egyptian gas into the country via war-torn Syria, while Shiite movement Hezbollah has separately started hydrocarbon deliveries from Iran.

The state is also bringing in some oil fuel for power stations in exchange for medical services under a swap deal with Iraq.

a little further research
Syrian oil supplies controlled by Monopolies and Sanctions.
Fuel Paralysis: How 14 Private Companies Control Lebanon’s Oil Supply And Set Its Prices

Today, 14 companies in Lebanon control both the import of oil derivatives and the distribution market. They also own half of the 3,100 gas stations in Lebanon and control the daily price of fuel.

These companies control 70 percent of local market production, while just two Lebanese state facilities take the remaining 30 percent.

Given this set up, the Ministry of Energy is highly compromised in exercising its role as an impartial watchdog over the quantities of oil that the companies claim to import. Quite incredibly, it is the companies that set and regulate oil prices – without the intervention of the state – while the state absorbs the annual national oil bill, estimated at nearly $6.5 billion.

The oil cartel in Lebanon, consolidated and protected under the country’s nefarious monopoly law, is an agreement between companies to share the market and organize competition to protect their shared interests. Consequently, when there is risk of losing profits gained over the decades of this corrupt system, they withhold supplies of oil derivatives from the Lebanese market, causing the crippling shortages witnessed on a regular basis in Lebanon.

Historically, the only recorded attempt to combat the monopoly structure came during the 1998-2007 tenure of former President Emile Lahoud, who opened up the records of the oil cartels.
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Can Iranian fuel break the monopoly?

It sounds like a trick question, but when a monopoly of a prized commodity is controlled by a well-entrenched, highly functional mafia whose members also happen to be the people running state affairs, who then has the power to protect the state from crimes committed against its critical resources? And what event might conceivably shake the foundations of this system and crack it open?

The recent move by Hezbollah to import Iranian oil through Syrian territory may be the first signs of a fracture in Lebanon’s notorious energy monopoly.

Hezbollah did not want to embarrass its ally, Lebanese President Michel Aoun of the Free Patriotic Movement [FPM], so it chose to bring in Iranian fuel through smuggling routes on the Lebanon-Syria border to avoid US sanction threats.
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Ironically, US sanctions on Lebanon are the biggest fear of the oil companies controlling the country’s energy market. Some of the companies were forced to submit reports to the American embassy in Beirut, disclosing the real quantities of imported fuel and the areas of distribution. How much, then, does the US embassy know about the covert oil operations and the real state of Lebanon’s energy shortages? And how much leverage does it have over these companies? Enough to dictate the amount of fuel distributed to the Lebanese people?

There is no doubt that the US embassy has played a role in exacerbating the fuel crisis - especially in areas that contain a large base of support for Hezbollah.

The roots of Lebanon’s failure

Viewing the world through the lens of tribal honor, whatever such a subjective concept means, instead of thinking of concrete and measurable interests, is the problem that has already aborted two Lebanese movements for change.
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To fix their country, Lebanese must revise their social contract, the constitution, and rewrite it in such a way that connects the state to its citizens, individually, instead of the current arrangement that links the state to sectarian middlemen.

Populism and cults are not unique to Lebanon, of course. In the US, both Donald Trump and leaders of the leftist “woke” movement enjoy a cult following.

The difference between the US and Lebanon, however, is that whereas the cult of Trump makes up a third of Republicans, who are in turn less than half the population, and the woke generation make up a small fraction of the electorate, tribal voters in Lebanon are the majority. As long as the majority of voters take orders from their tribal chiefs, instead of holding them accountable, Lebanon will not change.

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Blues yesterday is time well spent. Great recap of several non-military issues and importance related to the rest of the world.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj25dL0I4nY]

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https://soundcloud.com/going_rogue/anyone-whod-support-going-to-war-over...

A recent poll says that now more than half of Americans would support sending US troops to defend Taiwan from an invasion by the mainland, plainly the result of the aggressive propaganda campaign that has greatly escalated public hysteria about China. In Australia the mass media are cranking out unbelievably insane 60 Minutes episodes ridiculously pushing the idea that China may attack Australia and that Australians should be willing to go to war to protect Taiwan. I've been having many disturbing interactions with people online who emphatically support the idea of the US and its allies going to war with China over Taiwanese independence.

This is clearly nuts, and anyone who buys into this line of thinking is a brainwashed fool.

Reading by Tim Foley.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

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by the Western media as an “independent” “people’s tribunal.” In reality, the main organizations initiating it, funding it, and facilitating it are funded by the US government primarily through the National Endowment for Democracy. Those “testifying” come from a regular troupe of “activists” paraded around by the US government for years.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt9G0p0dqYU]

https://newatlas.report/2021/10/01/the-uyghur-tribunal-us-funded-theater...

October 2, 2021 (The New Atlas) – Because of the immense amount of references connected to the Uyghur Tribunal video published by The New Atlas they could not be included in the video description below the video. Instead, they have been provided below along with some notes to help serve as a guide.
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