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The Color is Green

Coretta Scott King is credited with the comment, "The color isn't white or black, the color is green" (meaning money). Last week we looked at food and discussed using leafy greens as the base of the diet. This week let's look at small and large greens producers. I can imagine small farmers in every region growing food for their community. This is a way to ensure everyone has access to fresh greens. I also want to look at the nature of money (the other green) and how we might transition toward socialism with worker coops.

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Let's get growing....
Steven Cornett of Nature's Always Right. His farm, located in his 1/4 acre backyard, is a well-thought out and beautifully run market garden in San Diego, CA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpn1oGkQrrg (20 min)

Curtis Stone explains the key steps to running a successful market farm (almost) wherever you are. He is in BC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqmoZhnzfBA (20 min)

Scott Hebert's 1/4 acre solo farm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OmxdXyLk70 (20 min)

Nice urban gardener video from the UK. In the small town of Oxford, Kane and Fiona Hogan have transformed their urban 1/2-acre property into abundant veggie gardens. The aim of Urban Gardener is to build resilience and food security in their local community – both by growing food for people to purchase and by helping people to grow food in their own backyards. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BSSB2zf2CI (6 min)

You can easily grow your own greens. Here's some good tips for growing salad greens in a single bed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUE6qFgYtXo (10 min)

Tips for growing lettuce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz_P2hZyQl0 (8 min)

Even if you don't have a garden you can grow greens in containers...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZJD4lu9vOY (12 min)

...and you can even grow greens in a cardboard box
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUiUMwIDPrM (4 min)

So you can support your local small farmers and buy their greens, or as we have seen you can easily grow your own. Either way eating fresh greens is great for your health
https://blog.kulikulifoods.com/2015/03/26/green-machines-why-are-greens-...

What about greens from a tree? Have you heard of the Moringa tree?
https://www.ucdavis.edu/food/news/moringa-next-superfood
https://www.strongharvest.org/growing-and-using-moringa/

You can still plant veggies and greens. We'll be getting some our fall crops seeded next month. Here's a suggestion from Missouri...
Top 10 varieties to plant in late July:
1. Basil (Dark Purple Opal Basil)
2. Beans (Dragon Tongue Bean)
3. Cauliflower (Amazing Cauliflower)
4. Cilantro (Slo Bolt Cilantro)
5. Cucumber (Beit Alpha Cucumber)
6. Squash (Red Kuri Squash)
7. Corn (Golden Bantam Corn)
8. Swiss Chard (Five Colored Silverbeet)
9. Zinnia (Scabiosa mix Zinnia)
10. Sunflower (Mongolian Giant)
11. Watermelon (Sugar Baby Bush Watermelon)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9UtK-bVpsg (13 min)

Here's a few other suggestions from down under on the best crops for the hot summer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4CSSXcj9EI (11 min)

As a final growing story for today an inspiring tale of greening the Earth...
Fools & Dreamers: Regenerating a Native Forest is a 30-minute documentary about Hinewai Nature Reserve, on New Zealand’s Banks Peninsula, and its kaitiaki/manager of 30 years, botanist Hugh Wilson. When, in 1987, Hugh let the local community know of his plans to allow the introduced ‘weed’ gorse to grow as a nurse canopy to regenerate farmland into native forest, people were not only skeptical but outright angry – the plan was the sort to be expected only of “fools and dreamers”. https://happenfilms.com/fools-and-dreamers

Now considered a hero locally and across the country, Hugh oversees 1500 hectares resplendent in native forest, where birds and other wildlife are abundant and 47 known waterfalls are in permanent flow. He has proven without doubt that nature knows best – and that he is no fool.

Now on to the other green...the greenback dollar -

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Richard Wolff explains why he thinks we're in a recession.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEcCM0uBlsA (7 min)

Rick Wolff discusses Socialism & Worker Co-Ops...
20th century socialism is now behind us. Socialists continued to evaluate both its achievements and failures via extensive self-criticism. A changed socialism has emerged, focused on a transition of workplaces from top-down hierarchical capitalist structures into democratic worker cooperatives. The powerful appeal of worker co-ops as grounding a new 21st century socialism is presented.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOqqRD1t47Y (29 min)

More on the rise of worker coops with Rick Wolff. At 15 mins Prof. Wolff interviews John Duda from the Democracy Collaborative and one of the founders of Red Emma's Book store Coffeehouse, a 30-member worker cooperative in Baltimore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2oDSEbiAZE (30 min)

In this episode of the Keiser Report, Max and Stacy discuss the stupidity of negative interest rates as $13 trillion in negative yielding debts get forced onto pension funds which are guaranteed losses on their investment. They also discuss why Alan Turing should be on the £50 note, it’s very fitting that the man most responsible for setting in motion the demise of fiat should grace the last of the fiat notes. In the second half, Max talks to Chris Martenson of PeakProsperity.com about the choice between ‘greatness and oblivion’ in our environmental and economic policies going forward. They also discuss whether or not the U.S. can go negative on their sovereign debt yields and still retain its reserve currency status. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT2YzKb6p5A (26 min)

More from Stacy and Max. A full 25% of global sovereign debt is now negative yielding with a whopping 85% of German debt negative. This means that the time value of money has disappeared, hence a fundamental law of monetary physics has been broken. So, what is next? They look at the historical break from gold which had provided an anchor to time value, and how that hurtled us over the debt event horizon and into a negative yielding world. They also look at a recent exchange between a CNBC host and the treasury secretary on bitcoin and the dollar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3ojPk8CQns (26 min)

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The history of fiat money, to put it kindly, has been one of failure. In fact, EVERY fiat currency since the Romans first began the practice in the first century has ended in devaluation and eventual collapse, of not only the currency, but of the economy that housed the fiat currency as well.
https://dailyreckoning.com/fiat-currency/

Anya Parampil sits down with Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov at the meeting of the Non-Aligned Movement in Venezuela. They discuss the emerging multipolar world and efforts to establish a financial system independent of the US dollar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YTwSCVSm_w (18 min)

Mark Blyth in a not so brief explanation of how we got here. This lecture sets out a brief history of two versions of capitalist software. The first drove the capitalist hardware during the period known as the Great Compression—1945 to 1980. The second did the same for the period many refer to as the era of neoliberalism—1980 to 2008. This lecture describes the bug in the system that crashed the first version of the capitalist software and the subsequent design of the neoliberal software. It also describes the bug that led to the 2008 Great Recession, landing us in the current transitional period that we might describe as the era of neonationalism or Global Trumpism. A key idea is that the emergence of contemporary populist politics, both left-wing and right-wing Trumpist variants, are attempts to rewrite the software of capitalism once again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJoe_daP0DE (1.5 hours)

To understand the US dollar, you have to understand the nature of our federal reserve system and what a rigged game we have from the moment we create money. This is another deep dive and is a full length (1.5 hour) documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5IyUFqUN88


But when you love the green backed dollar, sorrow always bound to follow
and Reno's dreams fade into neon amber

http://www.songlyrics.com/merle-haggard/kentucky-gambler-lyrics/

And I don't give a damn about a greenback dollar, spend it as fast as I can.
For a wailin' song and a good guitar, the only things that I understand, poor boy, the only things that I understand.

Kingston trio (3 min) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG8rRNjpd8s

People are obsessed with the greenback dollar tying it to their own value as a human. I'm lucky it was never my objective nor addiction. My teaching career paid enough to finance our little farm and that was my goal since my teenage years. Now in retirement with the place paid off, I value the greens we grow and eat, seeing them as healthy, and I watch as the US fiat currency continues at present to be the standard world currency. The dollar provides the US with the economic club to beat other countries into submission. We use the IMF to force indebtedness on to countries we wish to dominate and require payment in dollars. However it seems more and more likely that this dominance of the US dollar is beginning to wane.

I would hypothesize that both the Iraq and Libya regime change wars were motivated by the need to maintain the dollar's sovereignty.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2013/03/22/the-usa-attacked-iraq-because-sa...
https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/01/06/new-hillary-emails-revea...
What other wars will the US perpetrate to prop up the greenback? Only time will tell.

In the meantime, I suggest planting a bed or two of greens to nurture your health and escape some of the corporate food system. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/worry-and-panic/201505/petal-pow...
This week we've been making tomato sauce, but next month we'll be planting fall greens. I hope you feel inspired to grow your own too. Wishing you all good health and great gardens....

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smiley7's picture

Another outstanding Watch; thank you.

High flying goal-keeper:

Have a great one.

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@smiley7

Thanks for dropping by this morning. Bet y'all have been almost cold because we've had a very cool moderate week. 60's right now....

Have a good one!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout
I marvel how this year often Chicago is hotter than Alabama.
But I'm sure you were warmer last winter. We tied the record of -20 actual with -40 windchill. Minus forty! That's ALASKA!

Sorry to derail the thread. Very interesting post, as always.

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

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@The Voice In the Wilderness

The jet stream has lost its oomph as the Arctic has warmed. Lots of wildfires in the arctic circle again this year. Sadly the climate is collapsing much faster than predicted.

We don't get much news about XR in the states, but they've got it going on in the EU, India, and other counties...
https://rebellion.earth/2019/07/25/newsletter-26-ice-cold-sip-of-rebellion/

They did block the entrance to congress this week in DC
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jul/23/extinction-rebellion...

Read Cass' c99 climate deadline piece this AM. Deadline or not, the changes needed are massive and the dims will fight against them too IMO.
“Leave fossil fuels in the ground and learn to live without them” is a simple principle that can guide us out of the current maze where we keep making the climate crisis worse and worse. http://leave-it-in-the-ground.org/
Can't see the dims pushing that...too much lobbyist $.

Try to stay cool!

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@Lookout
glorious, in the sixties and clear Carolina blue skies with northern sunlit landscapes, reminds me of why i've loved these old mountains for a lifetime.

Love the Parton song, btw.

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@smiley7 One very agile feline. Rec'd!!

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Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.

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your linked stories, just by the headlines. Will enjoy reading them during the weekend.
As I am walking on crutches for the next eights weeks, I thought I order some high planting beds
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and start growing vegetables and salads and herbs. Our 83 year old neighbor has a big one on his patio. I wonder if beneath of that thingie (how do you call that in English?) I could try growing some mushrooms.

Anyhow, thanks for everything. I am still knocked out through too much medication the doctors in the know like to feed you at the most inconvenient times of the day.

I also plan to completely change my dietary habits. More abouth that when I actually do it. Wink

Have a beautiful, cool Sunday, all you friendly folks.

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@mimi

for lettuce and greens. We've talked about building one up here by the house, but we're pretty shady.

Be careful on those crutches. I'll look forward to your diet report.

Heal quickly and well!

edit: to add this link about mushrooms...
https://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/vegetables/growing-mus...

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for your installment? Lettuce play! Tomatoes are popping out here, with bell peppers and a few yellow squash. Bunnies got to the cukes, but coming back. Doing battle with vines and a couple of dead chestnut trees. Spotted a scarlet tanager feeding her young by the feeders on the deck at dawn.
Ain't nature cool?

BTW, greedbacks are hardly worth the value the rulers imply. On another note, thinking of starting up a community garden here in this little town on donated land. In my free time. Wink

Whatever happened to the resilience thread? Was that you? Memory fails me.

Namaste

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@QMS

We're covered up with scarlet and summer tanagers this year! We hear them all day up in the canopy.

The Resilience library was created by Gerrit? who left c99. I think his library remains. I started this garden theme because I felt the need to focus on things we could do, instead of just analyzing the mess we're in.

Love your concept of the community garden. Best of luck with that project.

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Although I was not in a garden when I was bitten, in the past, I have had close encounters in every garden I guess I ever tended.
Apparently, this is a peak cycle for copper heads. My dr. said he has treated 3 bites in the last 10 days. I was the only one to avoid hospitalization.
My time in the er, which also had some other copper head bite victims in the rooms, was a disappointment. They ruled out anti-venom infusion, but discharged me without giving me any antibiotics. Luckily, my dr. started me on out patient IV immediately. I head out momentarily to the clinic for my final dose of Vancomycin. It is working, the infection has almost gone.

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@on the cusp

So sorry to hear of your encounter. The weekly music session is along a creek. We had a copperhead come into the outside area around the picking shed last Friday. It was shot.

Luckily we've not had an issue with snakes in the garden (yet). Last summer had a rattler right outside our porch steps. I shot it also. I don't like doing that but to catch and release is beyond my skill and confidence level.

Really those snakes are our friends...they control rodents, but as you say they can cause great harm. Thanks for the heads up and the reminder to be aware!

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@Lookout
Sending healing thoughts.

May i add an extra caution, according to grandma, copperheads travel in pairs.

Gives me goosebumps thinking of your ordeal, OtC.

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@smiley7 @smiley7 It is the least venomous of the various poisonous snakes in my area, so I won the snake bite lotto.
It was huge. I didn't see it in the grass. The sun was almost down, just enough light for me to walk without a flashlight.
Old snakes emit small venom doses, little snakes empty out their stash.
Despite all the plusses, the pain was extreme. A dose of morphine, later fentanyl, did not touch it. My bp rose to 198/128.
I prefer not to kill snakes, and will scoop them up in a shovel, toss them over a fence.
However, my heart did harden just a tad this week, so I will not go out of my way to save a snake henceforth.
I guess the most important step after getting bitten is to identify what kind of snake bit you. It might take hours for the er to make the determination, and those hours might be the difference in losing a limb or not.

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@on the cusp

Always make sure about your ID before killing a snake...

https://urbanreptiles.com/corn-snake-vs-copperhead/
The Red Cornsnake also known as the red ratsnake is usually more brightly colored and and has a more reddish hue than that of the copperhead. The pattern of the Red Cornsnake is a blotch that does not extend down the sides to the ground.

Other snakes with similar markings....
https://www.virginiaherpetologicalsociety.com/venomous-look-a-likes/copp...

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@on the cusp
in my ear's memory, i can just hear Grandma or Aunt Rosie yelling it when they heard the screen door shut during my upbringing on the farm giving me a lifelong fear, respect for them and have had many close encounters fishing, but in this area, count myself lucky; used to carry a 22 pistol loaded with ratshot when in the wilderness alone.

Again, so glad you are safe, regards to Lucky.

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@smiley7 Lucky didn't make it, unfortunately.
My theory is that 2 large feral cats that recently showed up chased him away. He was run over. I happened to see him in the road, verified it was little Lucky.

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@on the cusp
Please at least take a walking stick and work it like a visually impaired person next time you're out in the grass at that time. Hell, all the time if you're in the grass.

I have a video on my phone of something I couldn't see at first due to its size and camouflage, but that my cat was tormenting, off in the grass. As I got closer, I realized it was a baby copperhead. I made her leave it alone, but am now tempted to wear my big, heavy, uncomfortable mud boots when outside.

Please take care of yourself!

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@Deja That said, one of the 3 victims my dr. has treated recently was a little girl, maybe 8 yrs old. She was spending the night with friends, got up during the night to go to the bathroom. The copperhead was in the house.
Seems they love cicadas, and we are in peak cicada cycle.

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@on the cusp

...by an unseen copperhead laying at the foot of a step. She had a bad reaction to the antivenom, and that was what nearly killed her.

Here's some snake bite stories for what they are worth...
https://www.quora.com/What-happens-when-you-are-bitten-by-a-copperhead

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@on the cusp
Holy hell!

When my daughter and niece were 3-5, they were leaving my mom's front door. My niece exited, but my daughter saw the copperhead slithering in and slammed the door shut. Both girls screaming to high heaven, one outside, one inside, and a snake flailing, half in, half out. My stepdad wouldn't go near it, so my mom cut off its head. My niece stepped right over it!

When I saw the coral snake off my porch, I froze. It was gorgeous! And so stealth, but I kept repeating, "Red and yellow, kill a fellow." Someone killed it the next day across the road. I estimated 3 ft, but they said 4 ft. Didn't know they could get that big! Had it not been for my dog, and her single bark, that was different from her normal "get off my lawn" or "SQUIRREL! Mom it's a SQUIRREL!" barks, I could have stepped off the porch right onto it.

We gotta stay alert!

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"Her eyes are Wilson green."
[video:https://youtu.be/tfjraLge1gk]

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@Deja

Here's one back atcha
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOf92afI5LI]

all the best...have a good one.

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@Lookout
It just clouded over here. Maybe we'll get a shower! You have a good one too!

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@Deja

Although we had 0.3 inches this week. August in Alabama can be brutal hot and dry. It takes a good rain to get through our 4-6 inches of mulch and into soil for the garden crops. Currently we're irrigating. Fortunately we still have water in the cisterns.

Bet TX is similar (I think I'm remembering correctly that's where you are).

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Bobby Nelson Cheese Shop closing after 70 years
https://www.kenoshanews.com/news/business/bobby-nelson-cheese-shop-closi...

For 70 years, Bobby Nelson’s, the little cheese shop “just off the highway” at 2924 120th Ave., has been a beloved iconic destination for generations of customers.
[snip]
There’s only a few days left. The shop that was established and opened by Nelson on July 4, 1949, will close at the end of the month.
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Phyllis and Richard Giovanelli are retiring after more than 40 years of ownership. Nelson, the wrestler who created the nelson and half-nelson wrestling maneuvers, ran the shop until 1978.
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The customer service sometimes went beyond the counter.

“Many times customers that were unable to make it to our shop during business hours would request a mailbox pickup, meaning we would put their order together, put it in our large mailbox with an envelope,” explained Schaefer.

“Later in the evening, they would pick up their goodies, put the cash in the envelop and in the morning we would pick up the envelope. All about customer service and trust,” she added.
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“A 92-year-old customer from Michigan traveled on the ferry across Lake Michigan just to visit our shop and pick up products for the last time,” Schaefer said. “His first visit to the shop was in 1952. That’s a longtime customer.”

I'm gonna miss that place.

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@GreatLakeSailor

Perhaps the community can fill the void in another way?

We had a Jersey dairy on the mt. much of the 3 decades we've lived here, but the dairy business is hard....7 days a week. It sold out and closed down, so no local fresh cheese, butter, and ice cream like they once provided. Change is the only constant.

Now a new generation is into other schemes...fermentation, fresh veggies, pasture raised beef and pork as well as eggs are available. It really is a win and lose world....

hope all is well in your corner of the world.

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viruses -- in particular, retroviruses, which are responsible for all sorts of nasty human diseases (including AIDS, Hepatitis, and miscellaneous cancers).

This particular scientist -- one of the world's leaders in studying retroviruses -- insisted that AIDS was not caused by HIV. He was one of those far-seeing guys who knew what all the other scientists did not. AIDS, he insisted, was more than anything else a moral disease. Gay men and junkies got it because of their filthy and microbially promiscuous behaviors, which exposed them to all sorts of pathogens and led to a general implosion of their immune systems.

Or something like that. The details are unimportant, because he was completely, pathetically, stupidly wrong.

Occasionally, there is a scientist who confronts a 97% consensus with some remarkable hypothesis or insight that contradicts what everyone else thinks. Very rarely, the individual is right -- though the acknowledgment often comes too late to salvage a career. The Prion hypothesis, for example, resulted in a Nobel prize for its proposer; whereas the insight that whatever the hell caused assorted forms of spongiform encephalopathy could be transmitted across disparate species by consuming affected tissue ... well, that didn't go so well for a different fellow's career.

Usually, though, the contrarian is just wandering off into epistemological left field, having become emotionally attached to a hypothesis that simply does not stand up to the data. There was a guy in these parts who insisted that evolution was statistically impossible in the time frames required. He self-published books promoting an hypothesis that ... well ... that different species of complex multicellular organisms more or less came into being in one-shot random events. He was, to say the least, out of his mind.

Sadly, the hypothesis often garners the attention and support of a lay audience that simply doesn't know enough to understand why the hypothesis is ... well, crankism.

But what can you do, right?

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd

...you follow where the evidence leads...but when the results challenge the results you've pushed for 30+ years you balk. The carbohydrate rich diet is a good example. This discussion relates to our topic here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEAJW8gR-zI (19 min)

As I suggest we should go green....

Hope you're doing well and things are going your way!

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@Lookout
i do fear that too many folk are putting too much faith in an inaccurate (or at least, not well-founded) model of what constitutes our "natural" diet.

most of the diseases that we associate with diet are things that afflict us fairly late in life -- late 40s and onwards. the thing is ... through 100s of millions of years of vertebrate evolution, none of our ancestors lived that long. it's probably only in the last 40 or 50 thousand years that somewhere, some primate made it to 40 years of age. maybe even the last 20 thousand years. the implication is that whatever the hell we were eating back then (and for the previous 200 thousand years), there was no particular evolutionary pressure linking our diet and our biology so as to protect us from coronary disease, cancer, and other such stuff, as long as we just ate right.

somewhat famously, Richard Feynman, who was a pretty smart guy, persuaded himself that oral hygiene was unnecessary -- after all, what did "people" (and their forbears) do before toothbrushes were invented? the answer, of course, is that they died young, before their teeth all rotted out. Murray Gell-Mann asserts that Feynman in fact ended up with all sorts of dental problems later in his life.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd
Madison 85, Franklin 84, Adams 91, Jefferson 83.
It was death of the young that drove the life expectancy values down.

Lots of new research on longevity...
https://valterlongo.com/daily-longevity-diet/

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@Lookout
20000 years ago, or 40000 years ago, or more to the point 200000 years ago, when we were scarcely distinct from other wild animals.

most animals live 2 to 4 times longer in captivity than in the wild. civilization has its advantages. we're not much different from chimps, and even in captivity their median age (excluding infant mortality) is low to high 30s. the oldest recorded captive chimp made it to 72. there was apparently a wild female whose age at death was "estimated" to be 63, whatever the fuck "estimated" means, but i seriously have my doubts. i wonder just how "wild" that animal actually was, or for that matter, how reasonable the estimates were.

and i note that the diet prescribed in your link is nothing at all like the diet prescribed by the "keto" folks, which is often promoted (a la the "paleo" diet) as being somehow better for at least some of us, because our ancestors went through some sort of bottleneck in the last glaciation, where they'd have been almost entirely reliant on meat. i'm not exactly clear on what it was that the animals providing the meat were eating. i'll also note that the keto diet looks nothing at all like a chimpanzee diet -- and again, chimps are a lot like people. i wouldn't be surprised if you could successfully produce a hybrid, though it would almost certainly be sterile, since we have one less chromosome (somewhere along the line, 2 of the great apes' chromosomes joined together in some human ancestor).

in any case, the whole science of nutrition is so messed up right now that it's almost impossible to figure out what really is or is not good for you, at least in the long run.

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The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd

You have to figure out what works for you, and if it just so happens to be one of these newfangled diets, just go with it.

One Size Does Not Fit All.

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the high grain/carb diet rec in '77 is coincidental with the rise in obesity and diabetes and heart disease and strokes, and ....

You are a scientist and know how to deal with data.

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it's pretty clear that too many "empty carbs" are probably not good for you. on the other hand, don't underestimate the enormous amount of straight sugar that has been pouring into our food stream since the scientists figured out how to efficiently transform the starch in corn into HFCS. "cereals" that are 35% sugar, soda in 20oz bottles (supposedly 2 "servings"), white bread that is loaded with HFCS, apple sauce that is so sweet it's practically pie filling, etc ... BLECH.

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@UntimelyRippd @UntimelyRippd Not allowed here. If needed, sugar is cane sugar. Lots of desserts especially with fruit are not sweet. Cakes the same.

However, in very small quantities, the French adore teeth-melting sweets. Too much for us.

We notice especially in more rural communities, teens walking out of stores with big multi-litre bottles of Coke and Pepsi. They are often over weight unlike the majority of French who walk for almost everything and are thin.

Many are taking up bicycling and electric scooters. We saw a well-dressed older lady come roaring down a hill in Paris with her foot on the back wheel brake. She must have been 80.

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Thanks for the continued flow of information. Bookmarked for reference. Just curious what you think the timing/characteristics of the eventual breakdown will be. I feel like it is moving so much faster than so much faster. Worst case scenario? Take a guess if you feel up to it. Crazy question? Even the best case scenario is not good bc it is not looking like much drawdown will happen given the political gaming and the profit obsession.

So, I am practicing seeing what is breaking down and all the ramifications (bc I cannot not see it) and then affirming the beauty of where I am at the moment. And there is so much beauty.

Green is also a healing color. Be well...

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...from my point of view. I feel wedded to this little piece of the ecosystem.

I think the climate collapse is accelerating in ways we do not comprehend. It all seems to be dissolving at an increasing rate. The next decade will tell the story, and I don't think it will end well. People don't react well to adversity...and from economic to environment it does not bode well.

So enjoy what you have while you have it!

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Almost every evening, at the place where I sail, people gather from a nearby outdoor venue, down at the water's edge or out on the little piers, to photograph the midwestern sunsets, with the brilliant red/orange/magentas of the filtered sunlight reflecting off the waters of the west end of the lake.

Something about it amuses me. Are sunsets so rare in their lives that they need to try to capture one, this one of the so many that I witness down at the lakeside every year? I'm happy to simply sit on the wooden decks where we rig our windsurfers, play ukulele, and enjoy the moment. Maybe like buddhists and their impermanent mandalas. But then, one of my sailing acquaintances said to me tonight, "I don't know, I'm thinking about putting together an album of them."

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before. Bottom line: if they eat their historical diet, they live until their 90's. Sometimes over 100. It they our foods, including cooking oils, they might make it to their 70's.
Not just that tribe, but tribes I cannot identify by name, because the Masai are the ones that tourists want to see. I have seen them, but cannot identify them.
I have had that lecture in S. Africa, Kenya, and Tanzania.

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They drink milk and blood... depending on cattle.
http://sciencenordic.com/maasai-keep-healthy-despite-high-fat-diet

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@Lookout And in certain seasons, they will eat fruit from some trees.

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modified 'Paleo' diet. Meat is definitely not the dominate ingredient.
The Perfect Health Diet

We started on this several years ago. Really liked not having to calorie count or portion control. Both of us lost weight without trying. We find if we start eating wheat or other gluten foods, we quickly want more. Somehow they are addictive. But can cause inflammation.

We quibble with a couple of things: no legumes. Many societies from the ME and the Indian sub continent include loads of legumes with apparently no ill effects. As a half Sicilian, sometimes I simply cannot eat dairy as in milk, ice cream, fresh cheese. But when I'm balanced, I can revert to my German/Alsatian side and yum away.

Otherwise, for us this works well. Make our own Kefir, using a jar of commercial organic to start in whole milk. The fermentation eats the milk sugars, so no lactose problem. We add roasted nuts, and dark berries. So good.

Trying Anja's Curtido recipe and will try Kimchee soon. We crave these foods, so we must need them.

We too think things are accelerating faster and faster. I take note each season of what seems normal and what has changed. The synchronization of weather with insects, bird mating and babies, bees and flowers, has been a smooth complex but mostly reliable set of interdependent events. Each year I wonder what I will not see the next.

Setting up block-built raised beds, with polycarbonate teepees on top which can be opened and closed. Unpredictable heat and cool, wet weather, means we need to stay on top of garden tending.

Lookout, thank you for your comprehensive compilations. It's always more than I can digest at one go. But very, very informative and interesting if discouraging. Thank you so much.

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work, so for now i'll just say this real quick: Don't eat the brain of anything. Ever.

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@UntimelyRippd @UntimelyRippd Grocery stores have little rabbit brains all in row/or butcher shops. What they do with them I haven't bothered to look up.

Now liver is interesting: it has trace minerals like Selenium, B vitamins, iron and other things. I don't much care for where ever it comes from. But liver paste here called fois gras (not the duck or goose kind) is a good substitute on rice crackers.

There are a lot of amino acid chains and essential trace minerals bioavailable in meats, especially the free range types as we have here in Burgundy. I think from reading the Jaminet book, a lot of the marrow and organ meats are used in long soaking meat broths. For people with compromised immune systems it can really help restore health. Bone broth is an essential base for Phò which I make at home as well.

In NY they had 'drip parlours' or rather IV clinics for non meat eaters so they could get their essential minerals via IV once a week. It was an eye opener for me.

I'm not making a meat versus vegan argument, so please just take it as information.

Edited to add information on Bone Broth.

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I just can't do it.

As for kimchee, I can eat it straight up as a snack if I find myself at the fridge wanting something small and quick to chew on. If you'd told me back when I was 10-12, and had a half Korean classmate, whose whole kitchen and farther into the house would stink to high heaven after simply opening the fridge door, that I would come to love kimchee, I'd have fallen on the floor in a fit of laughter, but it's true. It's spicy, and delicious. If you can handle spice, and sauerkraut, you can handle that. I've added it to all sorts of things, but mostly stir fries. Love it straight up mostly, though.

Hope you try it, and love it!

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