We knew that Russia Gate was Bullsh*t

Politico Report Says Russiagaters Should Prepare To Kiss My Ass

In a new article titled “Mueller report PSA: Prepare for disappointment“, Politico cites information provided by defense attorneys and “more than 15 former government officials with investigation experience spanning Watergate to the 2016 election case” to warn everyone who’s been lighting candles at their Saint Mueller altars that their hopes of Trump being removed from office are about to be dashed to the floor.

“While [Mueller is] under no deadline to complete his work, several sources tracking the investigation say the special counsel and his team appear eager to wrap up,” Politico reports.

“The public, they say, shouldn’t expect a comprehensive and presidency-wrecking account of Kremlin meddling and alleged obstruction of justice by Trump — not to mention an explanation of the myriad subplots that have bedeviled lawmakers, journalists and amateur Mueller sleuths,” the report also says, adding that details of the investigation may never even see the light of day.

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This is by far the clearest indication yet that the Mueller investigation will end with Trump still in office and zero proof of collusion with the Russian government, which has been obvious since the beginning to everyone who isn’t a complete fucking moron. For two years the idiotic, fact-free, xenophobic Russiagate conspiracy theory has been ripping through mainstream American consciousness with shrieking manic hysteria, sucking all oxygen out of the room for legitimate criticisms of the actual awful things that the US president is doing in real life. Those of us who have been courageous and clear-headed enough to stand against the groupthink have been shouted down, censored, slandered and smeared as assets of the Kremlin on a daily basis by unthinking consumers of mass media propaganda, despite our holding the philosophically unassailable position of demanding the normal amount of proof that would be required in a post-Iraq invasion world.

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None of the investigations arising from the Russiagate conspiracy theory have turned up a single shred of evidence that Donald Trump colluded with the Russian government to rig the 2016 election, or to do anything else for that matter. All that the shrill, demented screeching about Russia has accomplished is manufacturing support for steadily escalating internet censorship, a massively bloated military budget, a hysterical McCarthyite atmosphere wherein anyone who expresses political dissent is painted as an agent of the Kremlin and any dissenting opinions labeled “Russian talking points”, a complete lack of accountability for the Democratic Party’s brazen election rigging, a total marginalization of real problems and progressive agendas, and an overall diminishment in the intelligence of political discourse. The Russiagaters were wrong, and they have done tremendous damage already.

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In a just world, everyone who helped promote this toxic narrative would apologize profusely and spend the rest of their lives being mocked and marginalized. In a world wherein pundits and politicians can sell the public a war which results in the slaughter of a million Iraqis and suffer no consequences of any kind, however, we all know that that isn’t going to happen. Russiagate will end not with a bang, but with a series of carefully crafted diversions. The goalposts will be moved, the news churn will shuffle on, the herd will be guided into supporting the next depraved oligarchic agenda, and almost nobody will have the intellectual honesty and courage to say “Hey! Weren’t these assholes promising us we’ll see Trump dragged off in chains a while back? Whatever happened to that? And why are we all talking about China now?”

I can't wait to see how Rachel explains how she has been lying her rich little ass off to her viewers for two years. Or will she just ignore the Mueller report and start talking about how China is trying to interfere with the election?

h/t moneysmith

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Truth.
Sort of. Redactions cover.
I hope this chastens(utterly destroys)Rachel.

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@on the cusp
I really did.

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@Pricknick

It's not real...it's not real...
Ain't no use in cryin'...stay away from me.

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Mueller report PSA: Prepare for disappointment
And be forewarned that the special counsel’s findings may never be made public.

President Donald Trump's critics have spent the past 17 months anticipating what some expect will be among the most thrilling events of their lives: special counsel Robert Mueller’s final report on Russian 2016 election interference.

They may be in for a disappointment.

That’s the word POLITICO got from defense lawyers working on the Russia probe and more than 15 former government officials with investigation experience spanning Watergate to the 2016 election case. The public, they say, shouldn’t expect a comprehensive and presidency-wrecking account of Kremlin meddling and alleged obstruction of justice by Trump — not to mention an explanation of the myriad subplots that have bedeviled lawmakers, journalists and amateur Mueller sleuths.

Perhaps most unsatisfying: Mueller’s findings may never even see the light of day.

Why am I not surprised that the report will be hidden from the public? Is this because it won't show that any of the people who has been charged had any connection to anyone in Russia? Whenever I say that this has been a huge waste of time and money I'm told that Mueller has charged 35 people already and he's not done. Well, Flynn was charged for lying to the FBI, but did he really? He wasn't aware that he had been wiretapped and so his memory about what he said during it was probably different than what was on tape. This is what a few articles have stated just after he was charged.

Would Manafort have been found guilty for money laundering and not reporting his foreign income if Her had won? Of course not because he had gotten away with it for 3 decades. As have countless others. BTW. Why hasn't Tony Podesta been charged yet? His Clinton connection?

All of this may sound like a buzzkill after two years of intense news coverage depicting a potential conspiracy between the Kremlin and Trump’s campaign, plus the scores of tweets from the White House condemning the Mueller probe as a “witch hunt.”

The rest of the article goes on to give cover for why Mueller didn't find anything after two years and over $20 million. This has been a two year circle jerk played on us and a huge distraction from the dreadful things that congress and Trump's deregulatory chumps has been doing.

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@snoopydawg

...isn't it? The brain damage has been done.

The important thing to me is that the copious physical evidence and expert testimony revealing this obvious hoax has been available and expanding since Day One. Anyone with more than a fifth grade education can easily comprehend what has transpired here. Then and now.

Mueller will be forced to redact the entire investigation, whether he wants to or not. The concurrent investigation into crimes of the FISA Court, the FBI, and the former Obama administration will need to be quashed, stat. The entire Mueller investigation did nothing more than starkly highlight the conspiracy to subvert the outcome of a national election.

It doesn't really matter whether it's prosecuted or not. US "democracy" is going to stink for a long, long time. It will still be stinking after we are dead and gone.

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on Trump and many, many other Americans for decades - as would likely be necessary to prove any such allegation, we will have to settle for alternative charges against smaller fish, such as tax evasion and false statements.

Otherwise, this has just been another exercise in political innuendo without much revealed about how the American system of government really works. That's the pattern with these things, and Mueller is they guy who does it.

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they wrap it up and if they are a little bit considerate, they flush it down the toilet, because shit just smells bad.
Good riddance.
Rachel? A sick puppy.

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then perhaps it's mission accomplished anyway. I wonder what percentage of people even know there's a so called investigation still going on. Probably not much at all, maybe 20%. Of that maybe a one percent or less follow what's happening. It seems to be a show that started and hasn't been able to be stopped because of the Potomac fever inertia that causes humans, yes, even those who claim to be our leaders, to follow an unwritten script like ants scouting for food and returning to their anthill. Like all past Potomac fever episodes, it passes and they move on to the next outbreak.

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so it seems to be a strictly American fata morgana. They come and go. This one is going.

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faithful believe Hillary
@Big Al
was robbed. Big time.
And is an unforgivable crime perpetrated by tRump.
He stole her thunder Election Night, and stole their hearts, and somebody needs to pay for that.

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@Big Al

All that the shrill, demented screeching about Russia has accomplished is manufacturing support for steadily escalating internet censorship, a massively bloated military budget, a hysterical McCarthyite atmosphere wherein anyone who expresses political dissent is painted as an agent of the Kremlin and any dissenting opinions labeled “Russian talking points”, a complete lack of accountability for the Democratic Party’s brazen election rigging, a total marginalization of real problems and progressive agendas, and an overall diminishment in the intelligence of political discourse.

I keep coming back to the fact that Congress voted for a larger defense spending bill than even Trump requested and nearly every Democrat voted for it. The NSA and the DIA fall under the Department of Defense.

Every crisis (most of which are manufactured) in this country is just another excuse for the further militarization of the homeland and for greater erosion of whatever supposed constitutional rights we the people were supposed to have.

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@Big Al People in the U.S. know, unless they work really hard to avoid all mass media.

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@Big Al Many people of my acquaintance are still following this shit-show, waiting -- with 'bated breath -- for Mueller to drop the hammer.

It's mind-boggling, really.

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other than nuclear war.

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@on the cusp That's because you're rational, cusp.

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@on the cusp I'm not sure you can ruin a U.S. election, anyway.

It's kind of like committing arson in the middle of the Blitz. How could you tell?

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election? Please? Maybe??

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@moneysmith

If Hillary hadn't cheated Bernie there's a good chance that he would have won. And if Obama had done jack-shit during his tenure then Hillary might have won. Instead we got the orange turd being everyone's puppet. Probably mostly the Koch brothers and people of their ilk.

The damage from this bogus investigation is going to have lasting effects. Censorship being one of them.

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@snoopydawg ,
he did jack shit?

And if Obama had done jack-shit

He was middle finger deep in the shit that happened in 2016.
He played finger puppet to the biggest farce that was ever not elected to the presidency.
Everybody knew he choomed. Yet he did nothing to stop the incarceration of many.
He done took a big dump on everybody.

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@moneysmith We little people can, here and in a few other places.

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@moneysmith We little people can, here and in a few other places.

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She wants to be right. Nine words, two of them profanity.
It works in person sometimes. Sometimes you get a fat lip.

Saint Mueller far from being crucified will in fact monkey hammer the critics and of course the guilty.

On the other hand politics and petty Trumpian criminals are not our real problems.

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That of Donald Trump being the puppet of organized criminal mobsters. Putin is just one of many with a leash around the Donald's nut sack. Netanyahu is another. (Wake up, slaughter some more in Gaza, pull the Trump leash just to watch him dance.) The Saudis are by far the worst. Once the world weans itself off their oil, the only thing they have left are sand, public head-choppings, and hired assassins. Always seem to send out teams of fifteen, for some reason. They're itching to goad the Donald into a war with Iran while they continue their slaughter in Yemen.

And people wonder how Germany happened . . .

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...and blatent evidence to prove Trump's ongoing collusion with Israel and Saudi Arabia to subvert US foreign policy to benefit these two countries — does not mean you can group Russia in with them.

You have absolutely nothing, not a bit of logic and no evidence of your allegations. The Russian nation has been deeply harmed by the imaginary "collusion" that you somehow believe exists between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin (or some random oligarch who controls Trump and the US government). In contrast to Russia, Saudi Arabia and Israel are the winners of the US Murder and Mayhem Jackpot, scooping up free money. advanced weapons, and diplomatic obedience from the lap-dog US government.

Nice try stirring that turd into this punch bowl, but your entire comment is absurd with the addition of your personal prejudice and Putin punching. Any ridicule that is heaped onto your comment is a result of your intellectual dishonesty. I challenge it in defense of the reputation of this blog. Truth is truth.

I am willing to discuss the evidence you may possess that can prove the veracity of your Russian allegations and I will keep an open mind while I examine it.

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@Pluto's Republic when I write as caustically as you did.

I agree with what you wrote. There are many people who believe that Putin controls Trump, which is just nonsensical. Trump simply doesn't care enough about what is said about him to do anything but mock.

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Anyone in business in New Jersey has a connection. Including Booker.

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@The Voice In the Wilderness We can't talk about the people who actually control our politicians. We have to point at somebody foreign, and scream our heads off.

Although I will say, some foreigners have joined the CIA and the American billionaires at the trough: the foreigners who certainly have gotten to the trough are the ones who have had connections with the CIA over decades. The Saudis. The Brits. The Israelis.

The Russians and the Chinese, as the former enemy and frenemy of the CIA and American billionaires, have a less clear path to the trough.

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@Pluto's Republic Where there's that much smoke, you have a dumpster fire.

A meeting in Trump Tower with Natalia Vladimirovna Veselnitskaya is plenty of evidence. Her name sounds, you know, Russian. Of course now we know the Saudis were in on it. Apparently they were selling shares of Trump. Even little UAE bought one.

I know. Putin is pure as driven snow. That's why his political opponents step off tall buildings or "accidentally" imbibe nerve agents.

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@SancheLlewellyn https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/08/14/rcp_lee_smith_trump_t...

Are you right or are they right?

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@dfarrah One could reasonably infer that the Trump campaign was set up.

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@gulfgal98

exclusive. Let's not forget that the Don's been under illegal surveillance for a long, long time and that to reverse engineer otherwise inadmissible evidence, the Feds often have to set up the target. Unfortunately for the Feds and the CIA, this time, they appear to have actively interfered with a federal election in order to carry out their rather poorly conceived sting operations. And, oh yes, they were in bed with the other candidate, who had committed multiple felonies of her own, and their girl's team jerry-rigged the nomination.

Call it Operation Lose-Lose-Lose, All Around the Table.

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@dfarrah No doubt lots of conspiracy theories get aired on Fox. Considering their audience, they will probably bring up Benghazi again. Interspersed with flat-earthers, anti-vaxxers, and global warming denialist.

Oh yea, and the War on Effing Christmas.

But hey, I don't trust the CIA, and I sure as hell don't trust the former leader of the KGB. Trump is a bought dog, and all of his handlers are rotten. Some more than others but that's like comparing botulism with leprosy. A pox on all their houses.

Of course, now our Stable Genius wants to pull out of our missile treaties with Russia. Putin just might find his dog has an infectious bite.

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@SancheLlewellyn Veselnitskaya had been banned from entering the US until the Obama administration granted her a special visa. This is the only way she could even try to get a meeting with Trump Jr. The day before that meeting (from which nothing transpired) Veselnitskaya had dinner with Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS and they had dinner again the evening following the meeting. Glenn Simpson and Fusion GPS worked for Hillary Clinton through the DNC. Fusion GPS was paid by DNC lawyers from Perkins Coie. If there is any collusion, it was between the Clinton Campaign via the DNC/Glenn Simpson and the Obama administration with the Russian government represented by Veselnitskaya.

I have provided links to show what I wrote has been documented. I have cited only one source for each, but there are multiple sources out there that back up what I have written. I have yet to see any verified information to back up what you are alleging. If you are going to make charges, please provide documentation.

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That meeting was totally set up by the FBI, fusion and, oh hell let's just say the Obama administration shall we?

This information you posted has been posted here numerous times here and elsewhere, yet people still parrot the primary they have been fed. The Papdoplous dude was also set up to say something to the Dutch dude by someone who was working with the FBI. I've posted the article about how the FBI tried to setup the Trump campaign at least 7 times here and they didn't bite. Nothing came from the meeting anyway.

As gjohnsit points out Mueller is still changing people in Russia for "trying to sway the election" and people are buying it. By doing what exactly? Changing votes? Nope. Changing people's voter registration? Nope. Kicking people off the voting rolls? Nope. The Russia phobia has all been manufactured by president. In other words by people being lied to. Again. From the beginning of this madness I've been saying it's the new soft WMDs because no one would believe that that Vlad has WMDs. I guess people can only see through this bullshit when it's a republican president spreading it. The GOP is doing more damage to people's voting rights than Russia could ever dream of. I'm wondering if they are going to buy into China and Iran interfering with the election too? They should at least be able to see through this as an attempt to get people to give their permission for war with them. But we'll see.

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@snoopydawg Now, now. Don't ask how any of this was done. You might reveal how the goalposts have been moved to center field.

Rewriting the dictionary is great.

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@gulfgal98

was setup by the FBI and why he told the Dutch ambassador that Russia had Hillary's emails. Isn't it strange that no one has asked how he came to know about that? I don't recall anyone asking him how he came into that knowledge. Well here's how he came into it.

Joseph Mifsud,
who the FBI used during their investigation into Russian collusion and is now missing "claimed to have learned that the Russian government had Clinton emails" and he passed this information on to Pap who then told the Dutch ambassador about them. No one in Russia passed that information to him so why would he have been under investigation? Because it was one more way that the FBI tried to entrap him. This article mentions Stefan Halper, a University of Cambridge professor with CIA and MI6 contacts was sent to make contact with Papadopoulos. Worth a read and there are links to other articles on this whole ordeal that Hillary used to get information on her opponent. I cannot understand how this could possibly be legal under election laws? How much of our money went to this farce? Hillary should have to repay all of it. And people's heads should roll if they lied to the FISA court to get their bogus warrants on Trump's campaign.

As is this one.

FBI Acknowledges Using Multiple Informants In Investigation Of Trump Campaign Aide

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one of the FBI Informant's referenced in the Motion for Summary Judgement. Steele is Source #1. But, that doesn't tell us anything we didn't know before. There's no question that Page and Papadopoulos were being controlled by operatives working for multiple intelligence agencies in addition to FBI. Obviously, that would have been the CIA and MI6, and as the other DC link shows, Halper was being paid for work he did through the Pentagon's Office of Net Assessment.

Papadopoulos wrote the paper and delivered it in early October. He was paid $3,000 for the work. Days before making that payment, Halper had finalized a contract with the Office of Net Assessment, the Pentagon’s think tank. Federal records show that Halper has been paid $928,800 since 2012 for work on four policy projects for the Pentagon.

As for the revelation in the Motion that one or more of the other informants were being paid for their role in this ooperation out of the FBI purse, that wouldn't be inconsistent with a role working with other agencies unless the informant was F/T Agency or MI6 officer.

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I too would like to see it. Likely, all you'll get are scripted talking points, a la Armando or any of the other shills at dkos who parrot the script. Maybe links to CNN quoting anonymous sources, or even Her Heinous herself, but I'll certainly admit I was wrong if any credible evidence can be produced. (Business deals in Russia, and/or with Russians, prior to running for office, don't count in my book, unless, of course, they include US uranium.)

Edited for clarity after combining 2 thoughts, on my tiny phone screen.

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@Deja a resulting hefty half million dollar speaking fee for Bill Clinton in Moscow afterwards. Is this not evidence of a potential quid pro quo? Wink

FBI agents were 'surprised by the timing and size,' the Hill wrote, of Bill Clinton's half-million dollar speech, which has raised conflict-of-interest questions about Hillary Clinton, as the transaction occurred around the same time she was being asked to sign off on a uranium deal, which gave Russia 20 percent of the U.S.'s deposits.

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I need to edit my comment above, because I did not mean business deals while in office regarding Trump and the Kremlin. I meant anything he, or any of his advisors, etc. did prior to the campaign and his election.

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@Deja @Deja If there's a problem with having business deals (prior to holding office) with the Russians, why isn't there a problem having business deals (prior to holding office) with the Saudis?

While I don't agree with identifying the government of a country with the ordinary people who live there (who often have no power whatsoever over their governments), it's a fact that, in my lifetime, Saudis came to my country and murdered a few thousand ordinary civilians here. It's also a fact that, in my lifetime, Russians haven't murdered any Americans I know of. I'm willing to accept the idea that, during the Cold War, they may have murdered some American spies in the field. I will accept that premise without demanding proof, because that's the way Cold Wars work. It's also quite likely that, at the same time, Americans murdered some Soviet spies in the field. Because that's the way Cold Wars work. But it would be nonsensical to identify those deaths with the deaths of, I don't know, janitorial staff and secretaries and interns and, well, just people walking down the street in Manhattan on a given morning.

Without evidence, I can't (and don't) say that the government of Saudi Arabia committed those murders on 9/11. But if we are going to get worked up into some kind of xenophobic fervor, wouldn't it make more sense to direct our prejudice toward Saudis, given that several of them came over here and murdered us, rather than Russians, who have...well, what have they done? Been imperialists that don't work for us*?

*"Us" in this case should be understood to mean "rich and highly well-connected people born and raised on American soil who are putatively Americans" and thus, are not really "us" at all.

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@gulfgal98

Hillary wasn't the only SOS that signed off on the deal. But I'm pretty sure she was the only one whose husband got paid to give a speech and her's was the only foundation that received a donation. But nah, nothing to see here.

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♪ ♫ Do they know it’s Fitzmas? ♪ ♫

Déjà vu.

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I saw this article come across my Twitter feed and I am so glad that you took the time to do this essay on it.

When we look beyond the partisanship of what has been happening and go to the deeper implications of this bogus Russiagate probe, there has been some lasting damage done, all in the name of partisanship. The damage extends to international relations and to every American here with the increased threat of more war, possibly nuclear, and the further curtailment of what few freedoms we have to speak openly among ourselves using the internet.

This is why I get so upset when people talk about how evil and/or corrupt Trump is. Trump is a reflection of what Obama, Hillary and the Democratic party have done since 2008. They were the ones who created Trump or someone like him to become elected President. Instead of fighting him on a policy basis, they create diversion after diversion in hopes of bringing him down. They have exposed themselves as having nothing to offer to we the people. They never thought she would lose.

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@gulfgal98 These people were just perfectly fine with worldwide evil as long as the dems were in charge.

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@dfarrah they’ll never fight Trump on policy. Theirs wouldn’t have been much different.

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@Dr. John Carpenter would not be much different. During the Obama years, the Democratic party painted themselves into a corner by bowing down to their rich donors and trying to be Republican lite. Now they have no where to go policy wise. This strategy might have worked in good economic times, but it no longer works when 50% of our population is either in poverty or near poverty. In the end, hungry people will vote with their pocket books first.

People want champions to fight for them, not politicians selling them "we're not as bad" bullshit. Pelosi accurately summed up the Democrats' attitude toward their own voters when she said "embrace the suck." That "let them eat cake" arrogance does not win votes, hence over 1,000 seats lost since 2009.

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@gulfgal98 At least we're getting down to the truer version of talking points. "Embrace the suck" is what they've been meaning for forty years when they said "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good."

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The issue is patriotism. You've got to get back to your planet and stop the Commies. All it takes is a few good men.
--Q

Keep pushing the door open. Light the corners till the melt.
--Magiamma

Morire de cara sol.
--Jose Marti

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@gulfgal98

should the democrats be okay with giving him more power to spy on us? Or playing congress-people as if there wasn't a foreign government controlling the president? Wouldn't it be imperative for them to snip the puppet strings and not patiently wait while Mueller looked into it for two years? Why take the time to investigate money laundering from years back? Or look into the money that president paid a porn star? This goes for the GOP too. Many people think that they are being blackmailed by Russia after the RNC computers were hacked. But apparently those people don't have any problem with both parties being controlled by the Koch brothers and countless other rich people and organizations. Just Russia. SMDH! The stupidity of this type of thinking.

Trump is the true face of America and its government. Previous presidents have been able to cover up the true ugliness of what America really is. This is why so many people don't like what Trump is doing. But he's not doing anything new.

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@snoopydawg You are on fire and this is the unvarnished truth! Great comment, snoopy!

Trump is the true face of America and its government. Previous presidents have been able to cover up the true ugliness of what America really is. This is why so many people don't like what Trump is doing. But he's not doing anything new.

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"I don't want to run the empire, I want to bring it down!" ~Dr. Cornel West

"There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare." Sun Tzu

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@snoopydawg Agree with everything up to the last paragraph.

The real reason people hate Trump is not cause he tells them what they already knew, but didn't want to know. The real reason people hate Trump is because if they don't hate him, they might have to know something they don't want to.

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The issue is patriotism. You've got to get back to your planet and stop the Commies. All it takes is a few good men.
--Q

Keep pushing the door open. Light the corners till the melt.
--Magiamma

Morire de cara sol.
--Jose Marti

@gulfgal98
I didn't hear one word about his views on the role of the court or previous decisions or even explanations of his own lower Court opinions! Feinstein poisoned the water with that phony rape allegation. Is she the reincarnation of Roy Cohn?
So the public knows NOTHING about him except he's a Republican and had unproven/unprovable sexual assault allegations thrown against him by the Democrats.

Perhaps Feinstein was colluding with Trump in this circus that turned the spotlight from his views.

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Today 25% of Americans view Russia favorably, 72% negative. In 2002 68%/27% opposite. The numbers in Russia have been similar. First of all this is about absolutely nothing and secondly we are missing opportunities to cooperate as we do in Space, and constantly risking conflict. For what?

Russians in the not to distant past have been optimistic about good relationships with the US. I hear this constantly in Russia, that this relationship is a natural in that we are both so similar in many ways. At this point Russians have given up. They see potential to cooperate, but that will be a far and distant way in the future. There is no support today in Russia. Those who have supported strong ties with the US are referred to as "Liberals". They had a strong following at one point but are down to about 1%. To many Russians they are considered traitors today. We tout Alexei Navalny as the main opposition to President Putin. No way, not even close. He is a total flake with a cult following of about 1%. The next strongest party is the Communist, remember them? The US press is totally dishonest in the way they report on Russian politics.

So today we have a seriously dangerous relationship with Russia only because of total dishonesty from our political class and media. Thank you Hillary "If I lose you all will pay" Clinton.

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Capitalism has always been the rule of the people by the oligarchs. You only have two choices, eliminate them or restrict their power.

@The Wizard how 'dangerous' our relationship is. I don't think Putin or Trump want war, but there are sure a lot of Americans just drooling for war with Russia, like Soros (he is an American citizen, isn't he), Haley, Bolton, HRC, Kissinger, Brezinski (when he was alive)and so on.

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@The Wizard Pathetic. Just pathetic. I don't usually rag on the American people, but FFS.

They act like they've never seen a racist before. Or a sexist, or a xenophobe. Bigotry, which has been in blatant evidence under the administrations of Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, and even Bill Clinton--to say nothing of Hillary Clinton's first presidential run--suddenly takes on the terrifying aspect of something with tentacles from outer space.

They act like what they're seeing is this:

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When what they're actually seeing is this:

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Supported by this:

Apparently this:

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and this:

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supported by this:

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is a lot better.

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The issue is patriotism. You've got to get back to your planet and stop the Commies. All it takes is a few good men.
--Q

Keep pushing the door open. Light the corners till the melt.
--Magiamma

Morire de cara sol.
--Jose Marti

I am convinced and assert, the Russia-gate "investigation" was a planned diversion intended to direct attention, and investigation, away from the crimes of the Clinton Cabal, which crimes and offenses against decency included but are not limited to, theft of money donated to the people of Haiti, blatant theft of the Democratic nomination away from the one candidate who had a fighting chance to beat T-Rump, possible attempted theft of the election itself--ever wonder why she hardly seemed to be campaigning after the convention?--and, oh yes, willful murder of "disloyal" subordinates such as Seth Rich. Various elements of the Dim Party and the permanent govt. went along with this sham because they too were and are implicated in the Klinton Krime wave.

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Nastarana

@Nastarana attempted coup.

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@dfarrah  
Salvador Allende, aided by Russia, was aiming to make Chile a second Cuba, our secret ruling elites said.

So the CIA created chaos, fomented Resistance™, brought the mayhem to a military climax on 9/11 1973, and put in Pinochet.

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She'll just switch "guilty" parties and go on spouting the corpocratic swill.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

@TheOtherMaven Seems as likely as not to me.

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@Dr. John Carpenter
Although I despise those pigs, I have no desire to go to war with them. Just absolute embargo on sales to and from them. Make them international pariahs.
Better yet, have a real investigation in the Saudi involvement in 9-11.

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@The Voice In the Wilderness it would implicate too many well-known grifters, poobahs and fraudsters, most of them outside of Saudi Arabia.

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

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@dervish  
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=urban_moving_systems

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@The Voice In the Wilderness Could we just get off petroleum? No?

Gee, why not.

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The issue is patriotism. You've got to get back to your planet and stop the Commies. All it takes is a few good men.
--Q

Keep pushing the door open. Light the corners till the melt.
--Magiamma

Morire de cara sol.
--Jose Marti

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

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@The Voice In the Wilderness I guess there's thousands of bankers, oil men, and CIA types in the world. Oh wait, I forgot the war profiteers. Yeah, I guess that adds up to thousands. I wonder how many thousands?

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The issue is patriotism. You've got to get back to your planet and stop the Commies. All it takes is a few good men.
--Q

Keep pushing the door open. Light the corners till the melt.
--Magiamma

Morire de cara sol.
--Jose Marti

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

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But, then again, I would be willing to venture a guess that very few at C99P are "surprised." (I know I'm not!) Kudos for bringing this to our attention. Thanks again!

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"Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe." --Thomas Jefferson