a Tweet for your consideration; or: food for thought

“Leaked data suggests the majority of patients classed as being hospitalised with Covid-19 were initially admitted for different ailments. [...]

The data, covering all NHS trusts in England, suggests that as of last Thursday, just 44 per cent of Covid patients had tested positive by the time they were admitted, the Telegraph reports.  [...]

The NHS has been told to provide "a breakdown of the current stock of Covid patients" by separating those in hospital for the virus and those for other reasons, the Telegraph reports.

However, bosses have not yet revealed the data. [...]

The Cone of Silence finally broken by an NHS leaker/whistleblower?

“Prof Carl Heneghan, director of the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine at the University of Oxford, said: "This data is incredibly important, and it should be published on an ongoing basis.

"When people hear about hospitalisations with Covid, they will assume that Covid is the likely cause, but this data shows something quite different – this is about Covid being detected after tests were looking for it."

RT.com’s coverage is here, linking to the telegraph.co.uk's original reporting (behind a paywall)

“According to the outlet, health officials were instructed last month to begin placing Covid patients into two categories: those who were in hospital primarily because of the virus, and those who were admitted for other reasons. However, the NHS has so far withheld this data from the public. 

With the majority of Covid patients being diagnosed after admission – in some cases weeks later – the leaked data points to the possibility that the virus may only have a minor or negligible role in many hospitalisations blamed on coronavirus.

The leaked figures also suggest that a large number of Covid hospitalisations are the result of nosocomial transmission, meaning that healthcare facilities – rather than restaurants, stadiums, schools, or other public venues – may be driving up infections requiring medical care.”  (or: iatrogenic cases)

Covid-19 has largely been a duck-and-cover issue for me, as there are so many competing and conflicting ‘factoids’: mask efficacy, stats on which jab causes the most or least adverse reactions, health passports, mandated jabs for workers, 'further jabs required', US hospitals receiving more money for Covid-19 Cases, the WEF gaming out a ‘novel Corona virus’ (or close); mass arrests at lockdown protests in the EU; the de-platforming of Covid skeptics, etc.

Is The Truth out there?

(cross-posted from Café Babylon)

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from RT.com, today, 'Biden orders mandatory Covid vaccines or tests for all federal employees, plus masks for workers and visitors'

In his announcement, Biden also stated that federal employees who opt not to get vaccinated will be subject to twice-weekly testing, as well as restrictions on official travel. He has also asked the Defense Department to look into mandatory vaccination for members of the military, and said that federal contractors will need to prove their vaccination status to “do business with the federal government.”

Biden pinned the US’ rising number of Covid-19 cases on the “failure of the minority to get vaccinated.”

“It’s a pandemic of the unvaccinated,” he said, adding that “People are dying who don’t have to die.”

However, the CDC’s new mask guidance was made in light of so-called “breakthrough” infections, or cases of Covid-19 among the vaccinated, as well as unpublished data that CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said this week shows the vaccinated can carry as high a viral load as the unvaccinated.

cognitive dissonance, dementia joe????

Regarding school reopenings this fall, the president declared that classrooms will reopen, but that all children, regardless of vaccination status, will need to wear masks.

On the same page: FDA extends shelf life of J&J vaccine to 6 months, after states remain flooded with millions of nearly expired doses

it seem thats israel had offered the palestinians 'nearly expired vaccines' and they said no thanks.

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@wendy davis

was putting expiration dates on drugs. Yes they do expire eventually, but I had to get a new one because it expired in 2 years. Pfizer extending theirs just lickity split like this is questionable IMO.

BTW Biden recently released 500 million doses of one vaccine and then turned around and bought 200 million more. Nice chunk of change for them. 1st they got billions to create them and now they are charging big bucks for them. It’s a racket alright.

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It is not until the tide goes out that you discover who has been swimming naked.

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for all pharmaceuticals is a scam? or just vaccines? although one can read any opinion online, i'd thought that not only did the vaccines need to be kept cold during shipping, but they really do have a shelf life.

but as i'd indicated in the OP, i may be the least covid-knowledgable member here...on purpose.

i do sincerely hope you discover what your recent health problem is, though. i wonder if there might be alternative health practitioners who might help.

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@wendy davis

have differing meanings. Certainly, complex organic compounds can break down and lose efficiency, or become harmful in other ways (especially if exposed to heat or sunlight). For example, a simple bottle of red wine can transition from being a pleasant sip into being a horrific cauldron of smegmic dreck after just a couple of days in the back of a car in a sunny parking lot. The question has to be "Exactly how does the product degrade, and what are the mechanisms by which it does so?".

That is different for every possible product, and it requires that the manufacturer understand and characterize it. This costs (sometimes significant) money, and as a result, nearly none of them do: they'll simply slap on a "expires in 12 months from today" date to cover their asses, and head for the golf course.

A great example of that is the box of Kosher salt we have in the kitchen: the box would have me believe that the salt within will expire this December. Salt. Salt! The salt in that box has remained essentially unchanged for some billions of years, so no: I ain't buying it.

With pharmaceuticals, the line is less clear. Pharmaceutical companies have to understand their product better than, say, ketchup makers, so their expiration dates are usually (emphasis on the "usually") more based in reality. In the current instance of the mRNA vaccines, I can see reasons that some of the components have relatively short storage lives, especially those that need storage at nearly-cryogenic temperatures. And the Technetium-99 that I just had for a scan has a half-life of 6.0067 hours, and they aren't kidding. Here a week later, I cant even detect myself with my Geiger counter anymore, and where's the fun in that?

As a result, I'm more likely to believe the pharmaceutical manufacturer's expiration dates for complex products (speaking as a person who has left a bottle of relatively nice red wine in the back of a car). Still, having said that: I continue to use a vintage bottle of Mercurochrome that was packed in 1963, and it still seems to work fine- at least if "fine" is defined as "still hurts like a motherfucker when applied". Takes me right back to my childhood, that... As another example, the epi pens that we keep around for anaphylaxis expire every year. I personally believe that to be, shall we say, hooey: stored properly, that epinephrine is pretty stable and lasts much longer than 12 months. So, we've made the decision to keep them around somewhat longer. But that is an individual decision, one that can only be made by an individual consumer. And please note that these comments should not be construed in any way as constituting medical advice.

The system is ripe for abuse- I have very little doubt that many manufacturers use this as a mechanism to drive sales. And that stinks, but there is little to be done about it, other than to research the specific drug and make an informed, individual choice.

Some more information is available in this article, which also has a decent bibliography as an exercise for the interested student. Anyhoo, be safe out there!

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Twice bitten, permanently shy.

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concerning expiration dates for vaccines:

Vaccines, biologicals or blood products could also be subject to quick degradation once the expiration date is reached.

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