Tulsi unloads on Hillary
I'll make this short.
... concerted campaign to destroy my reputation. We wondered who was behind it and why. Now we know — it was always you, through your proxies and ...
— Tulsi Gabbard (@TulsiGabbard) October 18, 2019
... powerful allies in the corporate media and war machine, afraid of the threat I pose.
It’s now clear that this primary is between you and me. Don’t cowardly hide behind your proxies. Join the race directly.
— Tulsi Gabbard (@TulsiGabbard) October 18, 2019
It looks like Tulsi is wrapping up her presidential campaign.
Tulsi is most likely 100% correct, but...this comment is correct too.
I'm unnerved at this venomous reply. Not very presidential at all. We already knew Hillary was no good but now I'm seeing this ugly side to Tulsi too. Seems they have the same level of discourse.
— Vegas Talent Casting (@vegascastingnow) October 19, 2019
Comments
I disagree that she is
I disagree that she is wrapping up her campaign or that this will be bad for her. What would be bad for her is if she sat by idly while HRC made these horrific accusations. As someone else pointed out, her subcommittee assignment (in the house of reps) means that she has "special access" level clearance. Which means she has been vetted to the very highest level. This makes her the perfect messenger to go on the offense against the horrible "Russia Russia Russia" crowd that will soon come after Bernie.
If venomous attacks were the sign of the end of a political campaign then Trump would not be our president.
While not an EW supporter I have to say that I wish that when Biden uttered that horrible lie "I worked to get votes for you" that EW would have responded with a tirade of expletives at that horrible f*#%ing liar. If she had I might have become a supporter.
I never implied that
She had every right to attack Hillary.
It's the tone that I don't like.
I would have preferred a "You and your minions are so beneath me that your baseless smears don't even deserve my contempt" sort of reply.
Strongly disagree about the "Venomous Reply"
A big problem is that so many people with any voice or reach are afraid to just say the truth without covering it is no many layers of padding that it loses most of its effect. Same that this is the same level of equivalence as a concerted media smear designed to erase anyone who doesn't march in lock step with the establishment doesn't make any sense.
America needs you, Harry Truman!
I agree here. I feel that Tulsi's response marks a return to the kind of plain, direct speech for which Harry Truman was well known in his time, and which is sorely needed now.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
You might want to watch
Oliver Stones the true history of the united states before you hop on that racist warmongers bandwagon.
Truman was what the KKK right shoved down our throats.
Harry Truman
I don't think so. Truman admitted to being a bigot, yes; but the fact of his actions remains: the 1948 Executive Orders to desegregate the US Military and many other US Federal Agencies and his sponsorship of the first comprehensive national civil rights legislation show clearly that he was no Klansman. Spencer Salisbury, the source of the KKK story, was well known to be biased against Truman; serious historians today give short shrift to it as Truman's actions (ex.: hiring Catholics) were incompatible with Klan membership. His day-to-day speech had all the embedded bigotry one would expect of a typical Missourian born in the 1880s, but his actions are those of a gentleman determined to rise above his inherent bigotries and act according to conscience.
Wikipedia on Harry Truman and the KKK
None of this detracts from the one quality I admired about both Truman and Tulsi: the ability to "give 'em hell" and speak directly, plainly and boldly, "tone" and "optics" be damned! After decades of meaningless milquetoast pablum word salad, such direct speech is so very refreshing and I want more of it!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Truman
This article describes Harry Truman's evolution.
Ditto, Dhyerwolf and Sean. Thank you, TG! Waited 3/4 of
(what's likely) my lifetime to see a politician show true courage!!!
Funny how all the Dem candidates rallied around Biden and Hunter--but, now, 'mostly crickets,' or a cop out.
BTW, not saying their was no calculation on her part, since, I'm sure there likely was a tad. But, still--takes a lot of gumption to so directly take on the
HuckstersC's--both of whom have done more than any couple I can think of, to [near] destroy this nation.Haven't voted for a Dem since Howard Dean. And, not certain I can vote for her unless she runs third party. Having said that, she's got a check coming from us via snail mail--she'll need it, after the shellacking she's been taking on Cable TeeVee.
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~~Gilda Radner, Comedienne
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~~Cicero
The obstacle is the path.
~~Zen Proverb
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I love Tulsi's response. Hillary is full of shit and a weasel
who needs to be called out on it clearly and indelicately.
What Tulsi needed
was for some very influential individual to respond to Hillary's venom by going all Joseph Welch on her: "Have you no decency, at long last?" That's what the moment called for.
But as we all know, you don't attain positions of great influence by pissing off the likes of the Clintons, and it looks like no one's going to start now.
"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum." --Noam Chomsky
Jonathan Turley does
See his article in my essay. Van Jones came close. Did you see the tweet of him in the first essay?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
I would wrap up Tulsi's presidential campaign
as fast as possible, if I were her. She is mch more effective as a truthdigger, truthteller and critic of the political elite. Her time will come, HER time is over. Good Riddance.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Apparently not
She is getting lots of donations since Herheinous attacked her. And she has promised to take her campaign to the convention.
Tulsi needs to stay in so she can keep talking about our wars and how they are just a sanction on us.
Edited for misunderstanding the comment.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
I think you misunderstood, mimi was juxtaposing
"Her" (Tulsi) with "HER" (HRC).
The good riddance was directed to HER.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Hillary--HER
I think mimi was saying Good Riddance to HER.
I especially like that Tulsi said what she did
Not just the warmonger part, but the part where she points out that the Clintons brought their brand of corruption to the DP. We all know that the Clintons sold the party out to Wall Street and big pharma and the insurance companies just to name a few they got in bed with.
NAFTA, welfare reform, glass steagal, etc...were all things that the republicans wanted to pass, but couldn't during their tenures cuz democrats blocked them. The Clintons just furthered Reagan's attack on we the people. F'ck both of them! Especially Hillary who has people defending her as a great supporter of women and children.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
I ESPECIALLY loved Tulsi's tone!
If someone called me a Russian asset, implying that I am a traitor to my country, I would absolutely be pointed in my damn reply. We execute traitors.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
This is exactly the way I felt
about Tulsi's reply. For far too long the Clintons have gotten away with their Mafia style techniques for bringing people down or under their control.
In my own lifetime, no other politician that I can remember has had the courage to stand up to the powers that be, which in this case is the Clintons acting on behalf of the oligarchy. I have long said that Tulsi Gabbard exhibits courage that I wish other politicians would have. Courage is what translates into real leadership.
The Clintons have been in control of the Democratic side of our political duopoly for far too long and their damage upon the American people and those around the world has been enormous. Finally, one politician had the guts to directly confront the most despicable human being ever to run for public office, and in the hearts and minds of many of us, Tulsi won.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
They still have control.
Other candidates have walked such a fine line in their comments to this controversy.
I guess it is still a bad idea to cross the Clintons.
When do we reach a point where candidates just do not care what the Clintons think! Or how the Clintons would react.
Obama must have made a bargain with the Devil to beat her, and not have the Clinton Machine ruin him.
I think he and Michelle are at or near their first $100,000,000, aren't they?
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
What with Netflix, already far beyond 100 million, I’d say.
The book deal with Random House alone is worth $65 million. The Netflix deal could be worth between $100 and $300 million.
https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/barack-michelle-obama-netflix-deal...
Hmm, and how about that now — the wife of Netflix Chief Content Officer Ted Sarandos just happened to have been Obama’s ambassador to the Bahamas. But Trump is just sooo corrupt and Washington DC was so clean before he arrived on the scene, right?
GREAT CATCH!
We are just so damn corrupt it amazes me we haven't done some mass movement to re-write the whole damn rule book!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Plus there is Barack's long time friend
Penny Pritzker (?) who owns a big hotel chain and donated tons of money to during his career as a phony progressive. One of them is governor of Chicago. Sure but Trump. Corruption has always been all through the government. DiFi's husband gets lots of contracts thrown his way as does Nancy's and probably every one else. Schiff is up to his eyeballs in the Ukraine corruption, but shhh don't tell the inmates that.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt
You didn't like Tulsi's tone?
I say fight fire with fire. There are so many of us out there that have yearned to hear someone with Tulsi's megaphone call Hillary out.
Sounds a bit like pearl clutching. This is politics, man. Not a cotillion.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
"Watch your tone!"
For the past 40 years, that's what we've done. Tiptoed around, afraid to push back, afraid to call out destructive behavior for what it is. Going along to get along. Playing according to the rules, because it's easier that way, or because we don't want to make those in charge angry.
"Everyone else thinks it's fine. Why can't you just sit down and stop rocking the boat?"
And look where it's got us.
We can "watch our tone", and be nice and polite while we head right over the cliff.
Or we can shake off our trauma-bonded stupor and support those among us who have the cojones to stand up, speak directly and forcefully, and take action.
I know what I'm choosing. And it's not to continue enabling TPTB to destroy the human race and the planet, in the name of politeness.
"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi
"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone
OT, did you realize that Hillary has a much deeper
voice than a couple of years ago? Also much more mean-spirited. I wonder what she inhaled or drunk or what kind of meds/drugs she might have taken. I don't know exactly when it started as I am not in the US anymore. But I sense a difference.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Yes
I listened to the part of that interview in which Hillary made those comments about Tulsi. I found it disturbing.
"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi
"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone
It was an added bonus
when Tulsi tweeted "Since the beginning of my campaign there has been a concerted effort to destroy my reputation."
Just last week I was explaining to someone how there was far too much fuss made about Tulsi's campaign announcement. I don't remember the specifics, I think she chose a different time and place for the announcement and there was a flurry of "Gabbard missteps" and "Tulsi off to rocky start" stories planted in the media. OFC we know who was behind it, it was "the grudgekeeper."
“He may not have gotten the words out but the thoughts were great.”